Re: Magnesium chloride... more

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In a message dated 3/26/2004 9:38:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:11:40 -0500

From: Grace M <foxyfox8@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 1435

Mark,

I don't remember ever seeing magnesium chloride at the department store

so I'm assuming that you can only buy it at the health food store. What

do you suggest I do in order to be able to give it to ? I would

love to try it and see if it helps her. Thanks!

Grace

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:39:29 -0800 " Mark Schauss "

<schauss@...> writes:

Grace,

Mag Oxide is the cheapest form of magnesium, is poorly absorbed and

utilized and is extremely alkaline. Mag Chloride in a liquid form is

very bioavailable and absorbed. My only caution to everyone is to be

careful in using chlorides when your CO2 is low and/or chloride is

elevated in a blood test.

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.carbonbased.com

www.southwoodresearch.org

..

..

>>>>>>> Mark and Grace

In my personal experience and also from other reading, for me the effective

Mg is in LIQUID form. After years of taking many forms of Mg as directed by

doctors, with little of the anticipated effect.

I ground up Mg citrate tabs in the coffee mill , added very hot water to

dissolve and drank it. What a difference in effect.I did the same thing with Mg

oxide again with good results and finished off the tabs of Mg Orotate the same

way and also Mg malate..... grinding then dissolving in hot water. Tabs of Mg

glycinate provided the same effective results.

This worked for me.... liquid form. Type did not seem to make a difference.

And, freed up some cupboard space in the process (grin).

I use Mg hydroxide, cheap store bought and also known as Milk of Magnesia

plain, and also dissolve Epsom salts, Mg SO4 to get my Mg in liquid form now.

It

is easy to dose control these. That is what I do as I have previously written

here.

My son with significant seizure and other brain disorders also gets his

supplemental Mg in the same fashion now and benefits from it.

Mg citrate is also available in most KMarts, WalMarts, etc. in liquid form

with and without Sodium (salt, saline, Na Cl). I have used the plain as I do

not want any salt. It, too, is inexpensive.

I found the information on Mg chloride very interesting as it is a form I am

not familiar with. The article clearly spoke to the issue of the importance of

Mg to brain/mood function, amongst other things. It also provided dose

information and spoke to another issue important to me.... low blood pressure

and

the Ca/Mg balance.

Mg chloride is available from several online sources. I have not decided yet

whether to try it or not.

Dark green veggies and salad greens are excellent sources of Mg via diet.

Magnesium in any form wants B6 + B complex as it's cofactors.

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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MJH,

I will try grinding the mag oxide I currently have and mix it with hot

water, now here's my next question, I also give calcium with mag

in it and a multi vitamin which also has mag in it, I don't want to over

do the magnesium and that article you sent me said to take 450 mg, how

exactly do I do this, should I subtract the amounts that she's already

getting in her multi and cal/mag and then give her the balance? I am

willing to try just about anything to help control her seizures

naturally, but I'm really afraid of making things worse instead of

better. Thanks MJH for all your help, you're the greatest!

Grace

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:23:52 EST foxhillers@... writes:

>>>>>>> Mark and Grace

In my personal experience and also from other reading, for me the

effective

Mg is in LIQUID form. After years of taking many forms of Mg as directed

by

doctors, with little of the anticipated effect.

I ground up Mg citrate tabs in the coffee mill , added very hot water to

dissolve and drank it. What a difference in effect.I did the same thing

with Mg

oxide again with good results and finished off the tabs of Mg Orotate the

same

way and also Mg malate..... grinding then dissolving in hot water. Tabs

of Mg

glycinate provided the same effective results.

This worked for me.... liquid form. Type did not seem to make a

difference.

And, freed up some cupboard space in the process (grin).

I use Mg hydroxide, cheap store bought and also known as Milk of Magnesia

plain, and also dissolve Epsom salts, Mg SO4 to get my Mg in liquid form

now. It

is easy to dose control these. That is what I do as I have previously

written

here.

My son with significant seizure and other brain disorders also gets his

supplemental Mg in the same fashion now and benefits from it.

Mg citrate is also available in most KMarts, WalMarts, etc. in liquid

form

with and without Sodium (salt, saline, Na Cl). I have used the plain as

I do

not want any salt. It, too, is inexpensive.

I found the information on Mg chloride very interesting as it is a form I

am

not familiar with. The article clearly spoke to the issue of the

importance of

Mg to brain/mood function, amongst other things. It also provided dose

information and spoke to another issue important to me.... low blood

pressure and

the Ca/Mg balance.

Mg chloride is available from several online sources. I have not decided

yet

whether to try it or not.

Dark green veggies and salad greens are excellent sources of Mg via diet.

Magnesium in any form wants B6 + B complex as it's cofactors.

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

MJH and Grace,

Just because its liquid doesn't make it better. This is a field I have

studied for over 18 years and magnesium oxide just isn't that good and may,

in some cases, be worse than not taking magnesium at all. The oxide part of

makes it difficult to utilize by most people as it is a difficult bond to

break. Chloride, citrate, aspartates are much, much more bioavailable and

require a lower dosage than does the oxide to get the same bioavailable

magnesium in the body.

The only benefit of magnesium oxide is to the manufacturers as it is the

cheapest form and easier to work with. Having worked with Mag Chloride, I

can tell you that it is a bear to work with but once in solution, it is an

excellent source of magnesium. The Citrate form is also excellent with the

aspartate being a problem for epileptics as it uses aspartic acid (a

neuroexcititory amino acid) as its base. With my daughter I only use the

chloride and citrate form.

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.carbonbased.com

www.southwoodresearch.org

Re: [ ] Magnesium chloride... more

> MJH,

>

> I will try grinding the mag oxide I currently have and mix it with hot

> water, now here's my next question, I also give calcium with mag

> in it and a multi vitamin which also has mag in it, I don't want to over

> do the magnesium and that article you sent me said to take 450 mg, how

> exactly do I do this, should I subtract the amounts that she's already

> getting in her multi and cal/mag and then give her the balance? I am

> willing to try just about anything to help control her seizures

> naturally, but I'm really afraid of making things worse instead of

> better. Thanks MJH for all your help, you're the greatest!

>

> Grace

>

>

> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:23:52 EST foxhillers@... writes:

>

> >>>>>>> Mark and Grace

>

> In my personal experience and also from other reading, for me the

> effective

> Mg is in LIQUID form. After years of taking many forms of Mg as directed

> by

> doctors, with little of the anticipated effect.

>

> I ground up Mg citrate tabs in the coffee mill , added very hot water to

> dissolve and drank it. What a difference in effect.I did the same thing

> with Mg

> oxide again with good results and finished off the tabs of Mg Orotate the

> same

> way and also Mg malate..... grinding then dissolving in hot water. Tabs

> of Mg

> glycinate provided the same effective results.

>

> This worked for me.... liquid form. Type did not seem to make a

> difference.

> And, freed up some cupboard space in the process (grin).

>

> I use Mg hydroxide, cheap store bought and also known as Milk of Magnesia

>

> plain, and also dissolve Epsom salts, Mg SO4 to get my Mg in liquid form

> now. It

> is easy to dose control these. That is what I do as I have previously

> written

> here.

>

> My son with significant seizure and other brain disorders also gets his

> supplemental Mg in the same fashion now and benefits from it.

>

> Mg citrate is also available in most KMarts, WalMarts, etc. in liquid

> form

> with and without Sodium (salt, saline, Na Cl). I have used the plain as

> I do

> not want any salt. It, too, is inexpensive.

>

> I found the information on Mg chloride very interesting as it is a form I

> am

> not familiar with. The article clearly spoke to the issue of the

> importance of

> Mg to brain/mood function, amongst other things. It also provided dose

> information and spoke to another issue important to me.... low blood

> pressure and

> the Ca/Mg balance.

>

> Mg chloride is available from several online sources. I have not decided

> yet

> whether to try it or not.

>

> Dark green veggies and salad greens are excellent sources of Mg via diet.

>

> Magnesium in any form wants B6 + B complex as it's cofactors.

>

> mjh

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

>

>

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Mark,

What do you suggest I do for in order to make sure that I'm

helping her instead of hurting her. Thanks!

Grace

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:44:53 -0800 " Mark Schauss "

<schauss@...> writes:

MJH and Grace,

Just because its liquid doesn't make it better. This is a field I have

studied for over 18 years and magnesium oxide just isn't that good and

may,

in some cases, be worse than not taking magnesium at all. The oxide part

of

makes it difficult to utilize by most people as it is a difficult bond to

break. Chloride, citrate, aspartates are much, much more bioavailable

and

require a lower dosage than does the oxide to get the same bioavailable

magnesium in the body.

The only benefit of magnesium oxide is to the manufacturers as it is the

cheapest form and easier to work with. Having worked with Mag Chloride,

I

can tell you that it is a bear to work with but once in solution, it is

an

excellent source of magnesium. The Citrate form is also excellent with

the

aspartate being a problem for epileptics as it uses aspartic acid (a

neuroexcititory amino acid) as its base. With my daughter I only use the

chloride and citrate form.

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.carbonbased.com

www.southwoodresearch.org

Re: [ ] Magnesium chloride... more

> MJH,

>

> I will try grinding the mag oxide I currently have and mix it with hot

> water, now here's my next question, I also give calcium with

mag

> in it and a multi vitamin which also has mag in it, I don't want to

over

> do the magnesium and that article you sent me said to take 450 mg, how

> exactly do I do this, should I subtract the amounts that she's already

> getting in her multi and cal/mag and then give her the balance? I am

> willing to try just about anything to help control her

seizures

> naturally, but I'm really afraid of making things worse instead of

> better. Thanks MJH for all your help, you're the greatest!

>

> Grace

>

>

> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:23:52 EST foxhillers@... writes:

>

> >>>>>>> Mark and Grace

>

> In my personal experience and also from other reading, for me the

> effective

> Mg is in LIQUID form. After years of taking many forms of Mg as

directed

> by

> doctors, with little of the anticipated effect.

>

> I ground up Mg citrate tabs in the coffee mill , added very hot water

to

> dissolve and drank it. What a difference in effect.I did the same

thing

> with Mg

> oxide again with good results and finished off the tabs of Mg Orotate

the

> same

> way and also Mg malate..... grinding then dissolving in hot water. Tabs

> of Mg

> glycinate provided the same effective results.

>

> This worked for me.... liquid form. Type did not seem to make a

> difference.

> And, freed up some cupboard space in the process (grin).

>

> I use Mg hydroxide, cheap store bought and also known as Milk of

Magnesia

>

> plain, and also dissolve Epsom salts, Mg SO4 to get my Mg in liquid

form

> now. It

> is easy to dose control these. That is what I do as I have previously

> written

> here.

>

> My son with significant seizure and other brain disorders also gets his

> supplemental Mg in the same fashion now and benefits from it.

>

> Mg citrate is also available in most KMarts, WalMarts, etc. in liquid

> form

> with and without Sodium (salt, saline, Na Cl). I have used the plain

as

> I do

> not want any salt. It, too, is inexpensive.

>

> I found the information on Mg chloride very interesting as it is a form

I

> am

> not familiar with. The article clearly spoke to the issue of the

> importance of

> Mg to brain/mood function, amongst other things. It also provided dose

> information and spoke to another issue important to me.... low blood

> pressure and

> the Ca/Mg balance.

>

> Mg chloride is available from several online sources. I have not

decided

> yet

> whether to try it or not.

>

> Dark green veggies and salad greens are excellent sources of Mg via

diet.

>

> Magnesium in any form wants B6 + B complex as it's cofactors.

>

> mjh

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

>

>