Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 CHRIS,I'M WANTING TO KNOW IF YOU ARE RELATED!!! MY GRANDFATHER WAS R.C.VANCE I LIVE IN HOUSTON,TEXAS DO YOU HAVE ANY COUSINS WITH THE LAST NAME OF BLASCHKE ONE OF MY GREAT AUNT'S USE TO LIVE IN SAINT SIMON'S ISLAND, GEORGIA MY NAME IS MARK HOGUE MY MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME WAS VANCE AS WELL GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR SON.I HOPE HE DOESN'T HAVE EPILEPSY ALOT OF TIMES WHEN I'VE HAD SEIZURES OR GOT NERVOUS I STILL WILL SLUR MY WORDS AND I'M 45 AGAIN PRAY THAT GOD WILL HEAL YOUR SON,MARK HOGUE chrisvance2004 <chrisvance2004@...> wrote:I'm new to this list. Our 10 year old son has global apraxia, sensory integration dysfunction, and ADD. He has been doing very well with intervention over the past 6 plus years. However, in July, he started complaining that he could not sleep. Yet, every time I checked on him, he was asleep. Then in Sept-Oct, he started losing his speech sounds. He's now back working on sounds he mastered when he was 5 and 6. He reports that he has tingling headaches every 2 hours. We're waiting to see the neurologist, which is another story for another day. Our son's overall motor skills have also declined. Can anyone tell me if they've heard of these symptoms? Thanks, Vance in Atlanta, GA P.S. My e-mail address is cevance@.... I don't know where the e-mail came from. A friend helped set this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 In einer eMail vom 03.01.04 06:36:19 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt markhogue2002@...: > > > CHRIS,I'M WANTING TO KNOW IF YOU ARE RELATED!!! MY GRANDFATHER WAS R.C.VANCE > I LIVE IN HOUSTON,TEXAS DO YOU HAVE ANY COUSINS WITH THE LAST NAME OF > BLASCHKE ONE OF MY GREAT AUNT'S USE TO LIVE IN SAINT SIMON'S ISLAND, GEORGIA MY > NAME IS MARK HOGUE MY MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME WAS VANCE AS WELL GOOD LUCK WITH > YOUR SON.I HOPE HE DOESN'T HAVE EPILEPSY ALOT OF TIMES WHEN I'VE HAD SEIZURES OR > GOT NERVOUS I STILL WILL SLUR MY WORDS AND I'M 45 AGAIN PRAY THAT GOD WILL > HEAL YOUR SON,MARK HOGUE > > chrisvance2004 <chrisvance2004@...> wrote:I'm new to this list. Our > 10 year old son has global apraxia, > sensory integration dysfunction, and ADD. He has been doing very > well with intervention over the past 6 plus years. However, in > July, he started complaining that he could not sleep. Yet, every > time I checked on him, he was asleep. Then in Sept-Oct, he started > losing his speech sounds. He's now back working on sounds he > mastered when he was 5 and 6. He reports that he has tingling > headaches every 2 hours. We're waiting to see the neurologist, > which is another story for another day. Our son's overall motor > skills have also declined. Can anyone tell me if they've heard of > these symptoms? Thanks, Vance in Atlanta, GA > P.S. My e-mail address is cevance@.... I don't know > where the e-mail came from. A friend helped set this up. > Dear welcome to this group. You will find many different infos from people who have experience, who can relate and who care. Everybody gives some contribution. Here is mine: What happened last July when your son said he could not sleep? several symptoms you describe could be attributed to the effect of a pesticide or insecticide or fungicide (systemic action on cells, especially nerve cells). I know about one case where a five year old lost speech completely and went right away into autism after the wooden panels in his kindergarden were treated with fungicides. Did you treat a home pet against pests? Do you use insect spray (summertime!)? Loosing speech after having been capable of speaking points to major problems of the cells in the central nervous system (CNS). There will be other contributions who bring up other topics please chose which might fit into the case of your son. Sometimes there are a lot more causes than just one, and on top of all: the causes might interact. CNS is a very complicated matter. The solutions come from a wide range of possibilities, and there are members of this list who are experienced in one or the other. One might go into detoxification nutrition weaning off meds after replacing them by natural healing, certain body therapies avoiding more risks like vaccination etc. Just ask the questions that come up in the case of your son and everybody will try to help in their way. I wish you the very best for you and your son in this dawning New Year, and a bright sun of friendship on your way when you are looking for solutions, friendly regards, Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Has your son been diagnosed as having a seizure disorder and has he had any testing done such as CT scan, MRI, EEGs, etc. Those tingling headaches could be seizures that he's having but you can't be sure and maybe an EEG will be able to clarify that. Is he on any meds that could be affecting his motor skills? Unfortunately, the neuro may be the person you need to talk to in order to find the answers as to why this is happening. My daughter is developmentally delayed and she's 13yo and sometimes she advances and sometimes she stays at a stand still and some children regress and then come back again, but it's hard to tell what exactly is causing it, but I hope and pray that you get the answers you are looking for. God Bless you and your little boy. Grace On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:43:55 -0000 " chrisvance2004 " <chrisvance2004@...> writes: > I'm new to this list. Our 10 year old son has global apraxia, > sensory integration dysfunction, and ADD. He has been doing very > well with intervention over the past 6 plus years. However, in > July, he started complaining that he could not sleep. Yet, every > time I checked on him, he was asleep. Then in Sept-Oct, he started > > losing his speech sounds. He's now back working on sounds he > mastered when he was 5 and 6. He reports that he has tingling > headaches every 2 hours. We're waiting to see the neurologist, > which is another story for another day. Our son's overall motor > skills have also declined. Can anyone tell me if they've heard of > these symptoms? Thanks, Vance in Atlanta, GA > P.S. My e-mail address is cevance@.... I don't know > where the e-mail came from. A friend helped set this up. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Thank you, Grace. Tyler has never had the testing, which we now feel is a must. Tyler has regressed in the past, as all children do, especially those with neurological issues, but never to the extent he has recently. We hope it's just the lack of sleep and that there will be an easy answer for that. Next week we should have the necessary testing done. Thanks again, Chris Re: [ ] Loss of Speech Has your son been diagnosed as having a seizure disorder and has he had any testing done such as CT scan, MRI, EEGs, etc. Those tingling headaches could be seizures that he's having but you can't be sure and maybe an EEG will be able to clarify that. Is he on any meds that could be affecting his motor skills? Unfortunately, the neuro may be the person you need to talk to in order to find the answers as to why this is happening. My daughter is developmentally delayed and she's 13yo and sometimes she advances and sometimes she stays at a stand still and some children regress and then come back again, but it's hard to tell what exactly is causing it, but I hope and pray that you get the answers you are looking for. God Bless you and your little boy. Grace On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:43:55 -0000 " chrisvance2004 " <chrisvance2004@...> writes: > I'm new to this list. Our 10 year old son has global apraxia, > sensory integration dysfunction, and ADD. He has been doing very > well with intervention over the past 6 plus years. However, in > July, he started complaining that he could not sleep. Yet, every > time I checked on him, he was asleep. Then in Sept-Oct, he started > > losing his speech sounds. He's now back working on sounds he > mastered when he was 5 and 6. He reports that he has tingling > headaches every 2 hours. We're waiting to see the neurologist, > which is another story for another day. Our son's overall motor > skills have also declined. Can anyone tell me if they've heard of > these symptoms? Thanks, Vance in Atlanta, GA > P.S. My e-mail address is cevance@.... I don't know > where the e-mail came from. A friend helped set this up. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Thanks, Mark, and I don’t believe my husband’s family is related. His father was an only child from PA. Chris Re: [ ] Loss of Speech In einer eMail vom 03.01.04 06:36:19 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt markhogue2002@...: > > > CHRIS,I'M WANTING TO KNOW IF YOU ARE RELATED!!! MY GRANDFATHER WAS R.C.VANCE > I LIVE IN HOUSTON,TEXAS DO YOU HAVE ANY COUSINS WITH THE LAST NAME OF > BLASCHKE ONE OF MY GREAT AUNT'S USE TO LIVE IN SAINT SIMON'S ISLAND, GEORGIA MY > NAME IS MARK HOGUE MY MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME WAS VANCE AS WELL GOOD LUCK WITH > YOUR SON.I HOPE HE DOESN'T HAVE EPILEPSY ALOT OF TIMES WHEN I'VE HAD SEIZURES OR > GOT NERVOUS I STILL WILL SLUR MY WORDS AND I'M 45 AGAIN PRAY THAT GOD WILL > HEAL YOUR SON,MARK HOGUE > > chrisvance2004 <chrisvance2004@...> wrote:I'm new to this list. Our > 10 year old son has global apraxia, > sensory integration dysfunction, and ADD. He has been doing very > well with intervention over the past 6 plus years. However, in > July, he started complaining that he could not sleep. Yet, every > time I checked on him, he was asleep. Then in Sept-Oct, he started > losing his speech sounds. He's now back working on sounds he > mastered when he was 5 and 6. He reports that he has tingling > headaches every 2 hours. We're waiting to see the neurologist, > which is another story for another day. Our son's overall motor > skills have also declined. Can anyone tell me if they've heard of > these symptoms? Thanks, Vance in Atlanta, GA > P.S. My e-mail address is cevance@.... I don't know > where the e-mail came from. A friend helped set this up. > Dear welcome to this group. You will find many different infos from people who have experience, who can relate and who care. Everybody gives some contribution. Here is mine: What happened last July when your son said he could not sleep? several symptoms you describe could be attributed to the effect of a pesticide or insecticide or fungicide (systemic action on cells, especially nerve cells). I know about one case where a five year old lost speech completely and went right away into autism after the wooden panels in his kindergarden were treated with fungicides. Did you treat a home pet against pests? Do you use insect spray (summertime!)? Loosing speech after having been capable of speaking points to major problems of the cells in the central nervous system (CNS). There will be other contributions who bring up other topics please chose which might fit into the case of your son. Sometimes there are a lot more causes than just one, and on top of all: the causes might interact. CNS is a very complicated matter. The solutions come from a wide range of possibilities, and there are members of this list who are experienced in one or the other. One might go into detoxification nutrition weaning off meds after replacing them by natural healing, certain body therapies avoiding more risks like vaccination etc. Just ask the questions that come up in the case of your son and everybody will try to help in their way. I wish you the very best for you and your son in this dawning New Year, and a bright sun of friendship on your way when you are looking for solutions, friendly regards, Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Lack of sleep could be a possibility. When has a lack of sleep it's like I can't get much out of her because she's too tired and how can you concentrate when you're too tired? It's hard for an adult much less a child. Good Luck on the testing and let us know how it goes! Grace On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 12:58:14 -0500 " chris vance " <cevance@...> writes: > Thank you, Grace. Tyler has never had the testing, which we now feel > is > a must. Tyler has regressed in the past, as all children do, > especially > those with neurological issues, but never to the extent he has > recently. > We hope it's just the lack of sleep and that there will be an easy > answer for that. Next week we should have the necessary testing > done. > Thanks again, Chris > > > > Re: [ ] Loss of Speech > > > > > > Has your son been diagnosed as having a seizure disorder and has he > had > any testing done such as CT scan, MRI, EEGs, etc. Those tingling > headaches could be seizures that he's having but you can't be sure > and > maybe an EEG will be able to clarify that. Is he on any meds that > could > be affecting his motor skills? Unfortunately, the neuro may be the > person you need to talk to in order to find the answers as to why > this > is > happening. My daughter is developmentally delayed and she's 13yo > and > sometimes she advances and sometimes she stays at a stand still and > some > children regress and then come back again, but it's hard to tell > what > exactly is causing it, but I hope and pray that you get the answers > you > are looking for. God Bless you and your little boy. > > Grace > > On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:43:55 -0000 " chrisvance2004 " > <chrisvance2004@...> writes: > > I'm new to this list. Our 10 year old son has global apraxia, > > sensory integration dysfunction, and ADD. He has been doing very > > > well with intervention over the past 6 plus years. However, in > > July, he started complaining that he could not sleep. Yet, every > > > time I checked on him, he was asleep. Then in Sept-Oct, he started > > > > > losing his speech sounds. He's now back working on sounds he > > mastered when he was 5 and 6. He reports that he has tingling > > headaches every 2 hours. We're waiting to see the neurologist, > > which is another story for another day. Our son's overall motor > > skills have also declined. Can anyone tell me if they've heard of > > > these symptoms? Thanks, Vance in Atlanta, GA > > P.S. My e-mail address is cevance@.... I don't know > > where the e-mail came from. A friend helped set this > up. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 I and others have found melatonin very helpful for our children's sleep cycle whenever it gets off kilter. My 8 yo takes 1 mg when needed. GNC has a cherry flavored very small pill that dissolves in his mouth while I read him a story and he goes out by the time it and the story are through. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 CHRIS ALSO LAVENDER IS VERY GOOD FOR A RESTFUL SLEEP YOU CAN SPRAY ON THE PILLOW OR BY CAPSULE BOTH WAYS WORK.WHAT'S YOUR SON'S NAME I'LL ADD HIM TO MY LIST OF CHILDREN I PRAY FOR. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY,MARK HOGUE Mike Mchugh <mcpitza@...> wrote: I and others have found melatonin very helpful for our children's sleep cycle whenever it gets off kilter. My 8 yo takes 1 mg when needed. GNC has a cherry flavored very small pill that dissolves in his mouth while I read him a story and he goes out by the time it and the story are through. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 , Can you become dependent on melatonin??? Grace On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:11:12 -0500 " Mike Mchugh " <mcpitza@...> writes: > > I and others have found melatonin very helpful for our children's > sleep cycle whenever it gets off kilter. My 8 yo takes 1 mg when > needed. GNC has a cherry flavored very small pill that dissolves in > his mouth while I read him a story and he goes out by the time it > and the story are through. > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 I would contact Woody McGinnis MD, ( www.autism.org/mcginnis.html) > I'm new to this list. Our 10 year old son has global apraxia, > sensory integration dysfunction, and ADD. He has been doing very > well with intervention over the past 6 plus years. However, in > July, he started complaining that he could not sleep. Yet, every > time I checked on him, he was asleep. Then in Sept-Oct, he started > losing his speech sounds. He's now back working on sounds he > mastered when he was 5 and 6. He reports that he has tingling > headaches every 2 hours. We're waiting to see the neurologist, > which is another story for another day. Our son's overall motor > skills have also declined. Can anyone tell me if they've heard of > these symptoms? Thanks, Vance in Atlanta, GA > P.S. My e-mail address is cevance@b... I don't know > where the e-mail came from. A friend helped set this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 HI GRACE,I DON'T THINK MELATONIN IS ADDICTING I'VE USED IT BEFORE!!!! IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE I'VE USED IT THOUGH. TAKE CARE AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND MICHELLE AND ALL YOUR FAMILY LOVE,MARK " Grace H. " <foxyfox8@...> wrote:, Can you become dependent on melatonin??? Grace On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:11:12 -0500 " Mike Mchugh " <mcpitza@...> writes: > > I and others have found melatonin very helpful for our children's > sleep cycle whenever it gets off kilter. My 8 yo takes 1 mg when > needed. GNC has a cherry flavored very small pill that dissolves in > his mouth while I read him a story and he goes out by the time it > and the story are through. > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Grace, Sorry for not replying sooner. For some reason I missed your question. Always discuss a new addition to your child's regime with your primary care doctor. I am not aware of melatonin being physically additive. It is created naturally in the body and low doses starting at 1 mg are effective so in that way it is not like introducing an herb or drug. It' s use is recommended by doctors such as Braverman and Atkins and it is preferable to any over the counter type sleeping medication. I imagine that anyone could become psychologically addicted to taking a pill to sleep, however there should be no physical withdrawal symptoms - so if a child was told it was simply a vitamin - not a sleeping aid ( and it is used only as needed) they should not require it to fall asleep regularly. I only use it when I see my sons sleep cycle is out of whack - and it's use was okayed for him by his doctors at Pfeiffer Treatment Center . M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Thanks again Mark! Grace On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:58:16 -0800 (PST) mark hogue <markhogue2002@...> writes: > HI GRACE,I DON'T THINK MELATONIN IS ADDICTING I'VE USED IT BEFORE!!!! > IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE I'VE USED IT THOUGH. TAKE CARE AND MAY GOD > BLESS YOU AND MICHELLE AND ALL YOUR FAMILY LOVE,MARK > > " Grace H. " <foxyfox8@...> wrote:, > > Can you become dependent on melatonin??? > > Grace > > On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:11:12 -0500 " Mike Mchugh " > <mcpitza@...> writes: > > > > I and others have found melatonin very helpful for our children's > > > sleep cycle whenever it gets off kilter. My 8 yo takes 1 mg when > > needed. GNC has a cherry flavored very small pill that dissolves > in > > his mouth while I read him a story and he goes out by the time it > > > and the story are through. > > > > M > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Thanks Grace On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:57:49 -0500 " Mike Mchugh " <mcpitza@...> writes: > Grace, > Sorry for not replying sooner. For some reason I missed your > question. Always discuss a new addition to your child's regime with > your primary care doctor. I am not aware of melatonin being > physically additive. It is created naturally in the body and low > doses starting at 1 mg are effective so in that way it is not like > introducing an herb or drug. It' s use is recommended by doctors > such as Braverman and Atkins and it is preferable to any over > the counter type sleeping medication. I imagine that anyone could > become psychologically addicted to taking a pill to sleep, however > there should be no physical withdrawal symptoms - so if a child was > told it was simply a vitamin - not a sleeping aid ( and it is used > only as needed) they should not require it to fall asleep regularly. > I only use it when I see my sons sleep cycle is out of whack - and > it's use was okayed for him by his doctors at Pfeiffer Treatment > Center . > > M > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 No new meds. Instead, Tyler's been on Concerta for 2 years. As to new school, no. In fact, he's at the school he's been at since he was 4, and his teacher this year was his math teacher last year (he's advanced a grade in math since 2nd grade). During the summer is when he started having sleep issues. Shortly thereafter, he slowly started sliding in his speech. He's had the same SLP for almost 2 years. He did get a new school SLP, but she couldn't be making him lose his sounds. As to friends, he's a happy, well liked boy who has a great social life. He did tell me this summer that he's maturing rapidly - he got a little fuzz on his lip, but he's not near puberty. In September, he discontinued his Samonas for a brief while, but he's done this in the past and it never made him lose his ability to talk. Also, he's been back on it for over 2 months. The only real change was the brief period of time from his music and the fact he's in 4th grade instead of 3rd, yet he makes all A's and A+'s, so I can't think it is 4th grade. Also, he grew 4 inches in 6 months, but that is not unusual. He's always been off the charts in height. I'm curious. Has anyone on this list seen a loss of motor ability to form sounds (this is how his SLP describes it)? What could cause this? Thanks, Chris [ ] Loss of Speech Hi Is your son taking prescription drugs? If so which ones-have they changed prior to loss of speech? Any other big changes in his life. Eg New School, New friends or lack thereof? arnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Hi What is SLP? What are Samonas? Also yoy said- he grew 4 inches in 6 months, but that is not unusual. He's always been off the charts in height. The growth spurt Tyler went through put an unusual requirement for nutrients on his growing body. How is his diet? Does he eat dark leafy green vegetables. Kids don't usually want them. If he's off the charts this " deficiency " miht have been accumulating and loss of speech might be associated with it, Look up the side effects of the drug he took in the Physicians Desk Reference.. arnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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