Re: Re: piracetam? comment, and D

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Dear , D, and all,

when I did this translation for you, I strictly seperated facts

(translation) from my personal opinion in order to give you the plain info.

But I could not but ask myself:

Does it make sense to give a medication to patients that produces symptoms

they are already suffering from because of accidents or other etiology? see

quote in my translation below, cue word " diagnostics often fail to seperate

symptoms "

What is the sense of importing this stuff into your country to make trials

with human beings? FDA has not yet approved of the med, I understand?

I remember one case in the sixties of a med that was approved of by my health

administration, but not by your FDA, thank goodness. It was a sleeping pill,

that had proved to be teratogenous in mice, so FDA disapproved. The authority

in my country skipped the warning, and admitted to market.

So we had a drug scandal here, with boys and girls born with no arms, no

legs, this means hands coming out from elbow or shoulder, feet coming out

from hips.

I celebrate for each and every person who has arrived at this list, and has

the opportunity to learn from, and share with listmates

a) what can be harmful to an individual suffering from seizures

what natural methods exist to help avoid seizures

c) contacts of doctors, nutritionists, companies and psychologists that

follow a protocol where the individual is the issue, and not just dealing in

drugs.

And last but not least, listmates will have the full understanding of the

difficulties, and after a while, the experience of how good it feels when the

new ways work.

This group brings an upward swing after long battles, and teaches to

celebrate success. Many thanks to Arnold Gore who founded it on March 31st,

1999!

For those who are new:

Please, do not discontinue AEDs abruptly.

Please, read thoroughly, and many posts, and ask questions before taking any

steps.

In this medical trial subject one more question arises:

Is there an eGroup for people who are part of a research program in whatever

meds? Mostly these agents are already available in other countries, as was

the case with piracetam. To my humble opinion, each individual has the right

to have the information on what he/she is taking. If the information is not

at hand where you are, it may easily be provided by other countries who have

already gone through all this, thanks to the internet, worldwide.

Somewhere in the back of my head, the sentence " First do no harm " is itching.

Until 1972 it was part of the Hippocratic oath MDs had to swear.

May all of us live through a peaceful year of 2003,

bless you all,

Katharina

In einer eMail vom 28.12.02 13:19:45 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt

TVA12082208@...:

> D,

> how many types of pharmacies do you have and how do they function, please?

> What kind of responsibility do they take when handing over meds to you ?

>

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> ,

> Here is my continued information on piracetam and side effects:

>

> one brandname (nootrop) used to be a party drug of the medical university

> crowd in the early seventies.

> I tried a literal translation:

>

> Indication:

> symptomatic treatment of chronic brainorganic functional problems, adjuvans

> after ischemic attack, and post-commotio syndrome (e. g. vertigo,

> headache),

> treatment of postanoxic myoklonus syndromes, treatment of dyslexia in not

> mentally retarded children

>

> counterindication:

> Patients with cerebral hemorrhages, terminal kidney insufficiency (allergic

> reaction)

> pregnancy and breast feeding

> caution when driving: reaction time prolongued at beginning and increasing

> of

> dosis

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> Restrictions:

> Patiens with problems in hemostasis, major surgery with heavy blood loss.

> Company warns:

> caution with children suffering from phenylketonuria. Granulated formula

> contains Aspartam.

> check patient every three months whether treatment still necessary

>

> side effects:

> not so frequent:

> asthenia, isolated headaches, ataxia, problems with balancing body, mental

> confusion, hallucination, i.v. application can cause pain in spot of

> injection, thrombophlebitis, fever

> ( K: They also present a " cue number " of side effects. Further

> investigation

> on this yielded the following result:)

>

> Side effects:

> The side effects on the central nerve system may be part of the brain

> organic

> psychosyndroms, so d i a g n o s t i c s o f t e n f a i l to

> seperate s y m p t o m s of the disease from u n w a n t e d

> e f f e c t s caused by the drug.

> Direction of patient's reaction (irritation or sedation) is supposed to

> rise

> from the inidvidual reaction of patient and his/her psychological

> diagnosis,

> and can hardly be foreseen in the individual case.

>

> side effects in adults taking doses from five gramms upwards per day:

> nerve system and psyche:

> a)increased psychomotor activities, disturbed sleep, insomnia, nervousness,

> aggression

> depression, moodyness, anxiety (occasionally)

> c) somnolence (single cases)

> d) L o w e r i n g o f s e i z u r e t h r e s h o l d (exceptional

> cases with neuronal overarousal)

> C a u t i o n: Maintain therapy with anticonvulsants, even if subjective

> improvement is reported, when piracetam is administered!

> e)vertigo

> f) in children: hyperactivity, insomnia, somnolence, depressive mood and

> increased irritability, anxiety (rare cases with doses higher than three

> gramms per day)

> Gastrointestinal tract:

> g) Gastro-intestinal ailments ( nausea, vomiting, occasional abdominal

> ailments)

> Electrolytes, metabolism, Endocrinic system:

> h) weight gain (occasionally)

> i) sexual stimulation, increase of libido

> Heart, blood circulation:

> j) Hypotonia, hypertonia (rare)

> Immune system:

> k) Allergic reactions (isolated cases)

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> toxic reaction:

> s. above symptoms

>

> interactions:

> boosting derivates of cumarine

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>

> My best wishes to you,

> Katharina

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