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Welcome back, Stacey!

Glad you have a new PC and I hope that it behaves.

Sorry that you are having a lot of pain in your hand. When is the next time

you see your doctor to check your progress? I hope it feels much better by

Monday, too.

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From: " Stacey " <StaceyT@...>

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:57 PM

Subject: [ ] I'm Back!!

> Hi everyone! I am back and with a new PC... instead of fixing my other

pc, they just gave me a new one. I had only had it for about 4 months and

it was doing all sorts of crazy things! So I am glad that that issue is

resolved!!

>

> As for my Carpal Tunnel Release I had done back on 4/3, the incision has

finally started to heal completely. The tendons and musles and joints in my

left hand are really hurting more than I thought they would. The numbness

and tingling is gone, but I think the pain has actually gotten worse. I

just hope it feels a little better by Monday, as that is the day I have to

return to work.

>

> I hope everyone here is doing ok! I will try to catch up on all the posts

i missed. I will talk to you later!

>

> Stacey

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Hi , I actually just had my last follow up with my doctor last Monday. You

know the HMO's, the revolving door type of medical care... Actually if the pain

isn't significantly better within a week, I will be giving them a call back. I

think that I may need physical therapy on the hand. But the surgeon said that

wasn't necessary.

Take care,

Stacey

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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:46:48 -0500

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> Welcome back, Stacey!<BR>

> <BR>

> Glad you have a new PC and I hope that it behaves.<BR>

> <BR>

> Sorry that you are having a lot of pain in your hand. When is the next

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> you see your doctor to check your progress? I hope it feels much better by<BR>

> Monday, too.<BR>

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> From: " Stacey " <StaceyT@...><BR>

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> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:57 PM<BR>

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> > Hi everyone!  I am back and with a new PC...  instead of fixing my other<BR>

> pc, they just gave me a new one.  I had only had it for about 4 months and<BR>

> it was doing all sorts of crazy things!  So I am glad that that issue is<BR>

> resolved!!<BR>

> ><BR>

> > As for my Carpal Tunnel Release I had done back on 4/3, the incision has<BR>

> finally started to heal completely.  The tendons and musles and joints in

my<BR>

> left hand are really hurting more than I thought they would.  The numbness<BR>

> and tingling is gone, but I think the pain has actually gotten worse.  I<BR>

> just hope it feels a little better by Monday, as that is the day I have to<BR>

> return to work.<BR>

> ><BR>

> > I hope everyone here is doing ok!  I will try to catch up on all the

posts<BR>

> i missed.  I will talk to you later!<BR>

> ><BR>

> > Stacey<BR>

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Glad to hear that the trip to Boston to be with your sister on her

graduation day was a good one, . Congratulations to her! I'm happy

to hear that it was a positive experience for you and your family.

Sorry that you are having trouble grasping things and that your body is

going through other annoying changes. It must be frustrating to get

negative criticism from your husband about it, but he's new to all of this,

too. Try to cut him some slack, but gently remind him that you are trying to

deal with the unexpected the best way you can and that positive, kind

support will serve both of you best.

ROM and how a joint feels as it is going through its ROM are two different

things. You can have significant pain and inflammation and still have normal

ROM.

I noticed in this post and the previous one that your mother is telling you

that MTX is not a good drug choice for RA. I don't agree. First of all, MTX

is indeed capable of slowing the progression of the disease. It has been

around since the 40s as a cancer treatment; a few years later it was tried

as a therapy for RA. Though its side-effects can be very serious, at least

we have a very good idea what they are and how to best prevent and/or

monitor them (so, in that regard, your physician is correct; MTX is a known,

Remicade (infliximab) and Enbrel (etanercept) are still relatively new, and,

although seemingly fairly safe and very effective, their long-term

side-effects are unknown). Methotrexate is one of the best disease modifying

anti-rheumatic drugs (DMARDs) available and one that we have been able to

observe over several decades.

As for the part where you say: " My Rheumy told me that the highest dose of

MTX was 9 the lowest was 3. " I'm not really sure why your doctor believes

that, but why not ask? The American College of Rheumatology recommends

between 7.5 and 15 mg per week for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis,

but some rheumatologists use as much as 25 mg per week for their patients.

The dose of MTX can depend on many things: how much you weigh, your age,

whether you are taking it orally or by injection, other drugs being taken,

how severe your disease is and how long you have had it, and how well you

tolerate the drug, to name a few.

In a much earlier email, you mentioned to me that you are not RF-positive

and that your rheumatologist has not taken x-rays of any of your joints yet.

You stated that the RA diagnosis was made based on your other symptoms and

your positive response to a short course of prednisone. That worries me a

bit since that would not necessarily mean that you have RA. It could mean

that you have another sort of inflammatory arthritis.

So, this is my long-winded way of saying that I don't object to your

physician deciding to put you on MTX for RA, but I wonder if your RA

diagnosis is correct.

Here is the position statement on methotrexate from the ACR:

http://www.rheumatology.org/position/methotrexate.html

Guidelines for treatment of RA from the ACR:

http://www.rheumatology.org/research/guidelines/ra-mgmt/ra-mgmt.html

Note: Although the above two links from the ACR may lead you to think the

information is outdated, the ACR hasn't changed its official stance since

then.

An short news piece entitled, " ACR MEETING: Common Arthritis Drug Cuts

Premature Death Rate In Half " :

http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/c0b6a.htm

A good guide on RA treatments from s Hopkins:

http://www.hopkins-arthritis.com/rheumatoid/rheum_treat.html

----- Original Message -----

From: <cwade@...>

< >

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:38 AM

Subject: [ ] I'm Back!!

> Well, I had a great trip to Boston. I held my husband up to his

> bargan (He wanted to come and take the kid and said he and my Mom

> would take care of the kids) They did most of the time (75%). I

> still ended up really tired and in pain, but the overall trip was

> great. My sisters graduation was wonderful, I was beaming with pride

> for her.

>

> I am starting to have trouble holding onto things, etc. I spilled

> several drinks, couldn't pick up my purse on more than one occation

> and my wrist poped once and caused excrusiating pain. I notice that

> I am having trouble manuvering and I bump into things as a result.

> My husband yelled at me. " God, Why don't you just slow down and

> watch where you are going. " I wanted to yell at him, " It's not that

> I am not looking where I am going it's just that I can't move like I

> used to and can't keep up with myself. It's going to take some time

> to adjust. Yesterday I could do all those things and now I can't. " I

> wanted to cry! It is not fare! Once a strong woman who could leg

> lift 500 lbs and bench press 150, now can't even pick up my purse.

> It is all happening so fast.

>

> My doctor says my ROM is fine, but it doesn't feel fine to me. She

> says it is probably just the swelling causing these difficulties.

>

> I am beginning to wonder if I am getting the best treatment. My Mom

> is telling me I should get another doc since she is not going to put

> me on Enbril or Remicade. She says she wants to stick with the tried

> and true MTX cause the side effect of the others are to great and she

> doen't know enough about the drugs.

>

> Any advise?

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Thanks , I wonder if it would be OK to show my MOM the part about

MTX? I think that would be helpful. She worries you know. My Aunt

Alice, my Grandmother Ione and my Greatgrandmother all had RA. My

Aunt Alice is severly crippled and so was my great grandmother. I

have never met either one. So I am guessing that that was part of

what help her (My Doc) draw her conclusion. Let me tell you that

after three years of Dr's and tests, I finally found a dr that was

knowledgable enough to DX me. I guess I am just letting my mothers

worries get to me. My Dr's one of the best at Vanderbuilt, I don't

know why I am questioning her.

Anyway, gotta go, I'm late picking up the kids.

Hugs

> Glad to hear that the trip to Boston to be with your sister on her

> graduation day was a good one, . Congratulations to her!

I'm happy

> to hear that it was a positive experience for you and your family.

>

> Sorry that you are having trouble grasping things and that your

body is

> going through other annoying changes. It must be frustrating to get

> negative criticism from your husband about it, but he's new to all

of this,

> too. Try to cut him some slack, but gently remind him that you are

trying to

> deal with the unexpected the best way you can and that positive,

kind

> support will serve both of you best.

>

> ROM and how a joint feels as it is going through its ROM are two

different

> things. You can have significant pain and inflammation and still

have normal

> ROM.

>

> I noticed in this post and the previous one that your mother is

telling you

> that MTX is not a good drug choice for RA. I don't agree. First of

all, MTX

> is indeed capable of slowing the progression of the disease. It has

been

> around since the 40s as a cancer treatment; a few years later it

was tried

> as a therapy for RA. Though its side-effects can be very serious,

at least

> we have a very good idea what they are and how to best prevent

and/or

> monitor them (so, in that regard, your physician is correct; MTX is

a known,

> Remicade (infliximab) and Enbrel (etanercept) are still relatively

new, and,

> although seemingly fairly safe and very effective, their long-term

> side-effects are unknown). Methotrexate is one of the best disease

modifying

> anti-rheumatic drugs (DMARDs) available and one that we have been

able to

> observe over several decades.

>

> As for the part where you say: " My Rheumy told me that the highest

dose of

> MTX was 9 the lowest was 3. " I'm not really sure why your doctor

believes

> that, but why not ask? The American College of Rheumatology

recommends

> between 7.5 and 15 mg per week for the treatment of rheumatoid

arthritis,

> but some rheumatologists use as much as 25 mg per week for their

patients.

> The dose of MTX can depend on many things: how much you weigh, your

age,

> whether you are taking it orally or by injection, other drugs being

taken,

> how severe your disease is and how long you have had it, and how

well you

> tolerate the drug, to name a few.

>

> In a much earlier email, you mentioned to me that you are not RF-

positive

> and that your rheumatologist has not taken x-rays of any of your

joints yet.

> You stated that the RA diagnosis was made based on your other

symptoms and

> your positive response to a short course of prednisone. That

worries me a

> bit since that would not necessarily mean that you have RA. It

could mean

> that you have another sort of inflammatory arthritis.

>

> So, this is my long-winded way of saying that I don't object to your

> physician deciding to put you on MTX for RA, but I wonder if your

RA

> diagnosis is correct.

>

>

> Here is the position statement on methotrexate from the ACR:

>

> http://www.rheumatology.org/position/methotrexate.html

>

>

> Guidelines for treatment of RA from the ACR:

>

> http://www.rheumatology.org/research/guidelines/ra-mgmt/ra-mgmt.html

>

> Note: Although the above two links from the ACR may lead you to

think the

> information is outdated, the ACR hasn't changed its official stance

since

> then.

>

>

> An short news piece entitled, " ACR MEETING: Common Arthritis Drug

Cuts

> Premature Death Rate In Half " :

>

> http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/c0b6a.htm

>

>

> A good guide on RA treatments from s Hopkins:

>

> http://www.hopkins-arthritis.com/rheumatoid/rheum_treat.html

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cwade@r...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:38 AM

> Subject: [ ] I'm Back!!

>

>

> > Well, I had a great trip to Boston. I held my husband up to his

> > bargan (He wanted to come and take the kid and said he and my Mom

> > would take care of the kids) They did most of the time (75%). I

> > still ended up really tired and in pain, but the overall trip was

> > great. My sisters graduation was wonderful, I was beaming with

pride

> > for her.

> >

> > I am starting to have trouble holding onto things, etc. I spilled

> > several drinks, couldn't pick up my purse on more than one

occation

> > and my wrist poped once and caused excrusiating pain. I notice

that

> > I am having trouble manuvering and I bump into things as a result.

> > My husband yelled at me. " God, Why don't you just slow down and

> > watch where you are going. " I wanted to yell at him, " It's not

that

> > I am not looking where I am going it's just that I can't move

like I

> > used to and can't keep up with myself. It's going to take some

time

> > to adjust. Yesterday I could do all those things and now I

can't. " I

> > wanted to cry! It is not fare! Once a strong woman who could leg

> > lift 500 lbs and bench press 150, now can't even pick up my purse.

> > It is all happening so fast.

> >

> > My doctor says my ROM is fine, but it doesn't feel fine to me.

She

> > says it is probably just the swelling causing these difficulties.

> >

> > I am beginning to wonder if I am getting the best treatment. My

Mom

> > is telling me I should get another doc since she is not going to

put

> > me on Enbril or Remicade. She says she wants to stick with the

tried

> > and true MTX cause the side effect of the others are to great and

she

> > doen't know enough about the drugs.

> >

> > Any advise?

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Yes, I think you should give your mom any information on MTX to read that

would be helpful in this situation. I can understand her worry for you, but

the decision about which doctor to see and what treatments to try is yours

alone.

It's healthy for you to wonder why your doctor decides what she does. Don't

be afraid to ask her what her reasoning is. A good doctor welcomes a

patient's questions. An informed and thinking patient is often a better

patient.

I am still puzzled as to why the doctor hasn't ordered x-rays of any of your

joints, yet she started you on MTX. Many physicians also order a baseline

chest x-ray (to compare to later in case of an adverse reaction affecting

the lungs). How will you be able to gauge how well the drug is working for

you in terms of joint damage without x-rays?

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< >

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:29 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: I'm Back!!

> Thanks , I wonder if it would be OK to show my MOM the part about

> MTX? I think that would be helpful. She worries you know. My Aunt

> Alice, my Grandmother Ione and my Greatgrandmother all had RA. My

> Aunt Alice is severly crippled and so was my great grandmother. I

> have never met either one. So I am guessing that that was part of

> what help her (My Doc) draw her conclusion. Let me tell you that

> after three years of Dr's and tests, I finally found a dr that was

> knowledgable enough to DX me. I guess I am just letting my mothers

> worries get to me. My Dr's one of the best at Vanderbuilt, I don't

> know why I am questioning her.

>

> Anyway, gotta go, I'm late picking up the kids.

> Hugs

>

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,

I'm go happy that you had a nice time and was able to watch

your sister graduate. I can " hear " the pride in your

email. I understand your mom's reservations about mtx, I

had them myself. It took me awhile before I would take mtx

because I heard so many negative things about it's toxicity.

I started reading all of the research abstracts, and it made

me feel better knowing that I am on the most widely used

drug for rheumatic diseases.

It's going to take time for your husband to adjust to your

limitations. It is very difficult for our friends and

families to watch this disease affect us the way it does.

You're right, it is NOT fair. I am lucky that my hands are

not affected, but this latest flare in my elbow was so bad

that I couldn't open a medicine bottle. I feel so bad for

everyone here that has rheumatic diseases that affect their

hands.

I can really sympathize with trying to accept these changes

that happen to us. Being raised on a farm, I could easily

toss around 50 lb bags of feed and bales of hay. I was very

agile and had dreams of being a gymnast. It is very hard

on my husband and ALL of my family, watching me suffer with

so much pain.

My ROM fluctuates depending on how much swelling I have.

Gentle stretching while NOT flaring is important so that you

don't loose your ROM. I use a hot tub to do water

exercises, which are the best exercises for arthritics. In

the summer I swim as much as I can.

The Arthritis Association has aqua-therapy classes, and

maybe if you contact them they will have a program in your

area. It's warm water exercises, and it really helps with

your ROM.

a

-----Original Message-----

From: cwade@... [mailto:cwade@...]

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:38 PM

Subject: [ ] I'm Back!!

Well, I had a great trip to Boston. I held my husband up

to his

bargan (He wanted to come and take the kid and said he and

my Mom

would take care of the kids) They did most of the time

(75%). I

still ended up really tired and in pain, but the overall

trip was

great. My sisters graduation was wonderful, I was beaming

with pride

for her.

I am starting to have trouble holding onto things, etc. I

spilled

several drinks, couldn't pick up my purse on more than one

occation

and my wrist poped once and caused excrusiating pain. I

notice that

I am having trouble manuvering and I bump into things as a

result.

My husband yelled at me. " God, Why don't you just slow

down and

watch where you are going. " I wanted to yell at him,

" It's not that

I am not looking where I am going it's just that I can't

move like I

used to and can't keep up with myself. It's going to take

some time

to adjust. Yesterday I could do all those things and now I

can't. " I

wanted to cry! It is not fare! Once a strong woman who

could leg

lift 500 lbs and bench press 150, now can't even pick up

my purse.

It is all happening so fast.

My doctor says my ROM is fine, but it doesn't feel fine to

me. She

says it is probably just the swelling causing these

difficulties.

I am beginning to wonder if I am getting the best

treatment. My Mom

is telling me I should get another doc since she is not

going to put

me on Enbril or Remicade. She says she wants to stick

with the tried

and true MTX cause the side effect of the others are to

great and she

doen't know enough about the drugs.

Any advise?

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These are good questions and I think I will pose them to her on my

next visit. I forgot to write the X-ray question down for my last

visit and so naturally I forgot to ask her about it. Maybe I will

call right now. I have to call anyway to find out why she only

prescribed five weeks worth (20 pills) of MTX for a two month period

and no refills. Maybe it was a Pharm. error??

Anyway, thanks. I just love this place. It really put my mind at

ease, and that is just what I need.

> ,

>

> Yes, I think you should give your mom any information on MTX to

read that

> would be helpful in this situation. I can understand her worry for

you, but

> the decision about which doctor to see and what treatments to try

is yours

> alone.

>

> It's healthy for you to wonder why your doctor decides what she

does. Don't

> be afraid to ask her what her reasoning is. A good doctor welcomes a

> patient's questions. An informed and thinking patient is often a

better

> patient.

>

> I am still puzzled as to why the doctor hasn't ordered x-rays of

any of your

> joints, yet she started you on MTX. Many physicians also order a

baseline

> chest x-ray (to compare to later in case of an adverse reaction

affecting

> the lungs). How will you be able to gauge how well the drug is

working for

> you in terms of joint damage without x-rays?

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cwade@r...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:29 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: I'm Back!!

>

>

> > Thanks , I wonder if it would be OK to show my MOM the part

about

> > MTX? I think that would be helpful. She worries you know. My

Aunt

> > Alice, my Grandmother Ione and my Greatgrandmother all had RA. My

> > Aunt Alice is severly crippled and so was my great grandmother. I

> > have never met either one. So I am guessing that that was part of

> > what help her (My Doc) draw her conclusion. Let me tell you that

> > after three years of Dr's and tests, I finally found a dr that was

> > knowledgable enough to DX me. I guess I am just letting my

mothers

> > worries get to me. My Dr's one of the best at Vanderbuilt, I

don't

> > know why I am questioning her.

> >

> > Anyway, gotta go, I'm late picking up the kids.

> > Hugs

> >

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Hello everyone!!

I made it!! I arrived in ton, SC on Saturday afternoon after 3 full days of driving. I was expecting to log onto my computer each night, but I was so exhausted that I had no energy to do anything, not to mention that my computer was shoved into my car and next to impossible to get out without creating an avalanche out of my car!!

I had hospital orientation today, and the hospital is real nice and super clean. It is a Columbia facility. I got to tour the ICU and it is real nice and modern, but parts of it are still under construction for renovation.

They have a high volume of open heart surgical pts and I'm glad because I love open heart pts. The rest are pts who have undergone surgery and have not done too well and are either on the vent or are struggling with multi-system diseases.

I met another traveler who was starting today and she and I hit it off right away. She got an apt right on the beach, so she and I have already made plans to spend our free time on the beach drinking margaritas and pina coladas!! She and I have the same wknds off, so that works out real well.

It is nice here, but so damn hot and humid!!! Coming from Denver, the heat and humidity has been quite a shock, and yet everyone says that it isn't "too bad" now!! Well, my hair certainly thinks so as I can't get it to do anything but frizz!! It's awful!

On the flip side, my pain and fatigue are all but gone. I think the humidity is going to be real good for my physical recovery. I also don't think I've slept this well in yrs, and actually woken up in the AM without pain! My neck still hurts a little, but that is still in the process of forming a union, so as long as that isn't completely solid, I will have some amt of pain, but it's definately less than when I was in Denver. I really think that dry air is bad for people. I know several people who come to Denver to live, and are chronically ill with various ailments. Denver is nice, but the dryness starts to affect you and it's too damn expensive to live there anymore.

So, just wanted to let you all know that I'm safe and sound in ton until the end of August when I will pick up and move on to another location (I want to go to NC).

So, everyone start writing me so that I feel needed and wanted!!

e

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Hi e,

So happy you had a safe trip and made it in good shape aside from being exhausted. Who wouldn't be after 3 days of driving. Its really heartwarming to hear you have made a friend already....good for you. I hope your stay there is a happy one for you.

Jackie

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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 5:25 PM

Subject: I'm back!!

Hello everyone!! I made it!! I arrived in ton, SC on Saturday afternoon after 3 full days of driving. I was expecting to log onto my computer each night, but I was so exhausted that I had no energy to do anything, not to mention that my computer was shoved into my car and next to impossible to get out without creating an avalanche out of my car!! I had hospital orientation today, and the hospital is real nice and super clean. It is a Columbia facility. I got to tour the ICU and it is real nice and modern, but parts of it are still under construction for renovation. They have a high volume of open heart surgical pts and I'm glad because I love open heart pts. The rest are pts who have undergone surgery and have not done too well and are either on the vent or are struggling with multi-system diseases. I met another traveler who was starting today and she and I hit it off right away. She got an apt right on the beach, so she and I have already made plans to spend our free time on the beach drinking margaritas and pina coladas!! She and I have the same wknds off, so that works out real well. It is nice here, but so damn hot and humid!!! Coming from Denver, the heat and humidity has been quite a shock, and yet everyone says that it isn't "too bad" now!! Well, my hair certainly thinks so as I can't get it to do anything but frizz!! It's awful! On the flip side, my pain and fatigue are all but gone. I think the humidity is going to be real good for my physical recovery. I also don't think I've slept this well in yrs, and actually woken up in the AM without pain! My neck still hurts a little, but that is still in the process of forming a union, so as long as that isn't completely solid, I will have some amt of pain, but it's definately less than when I was in Denver. I really think that dry air is bad for people. I know several people who come to Denver to live, and are chronically ill with various ailments. Denver is nice, but the dryness starts to affect you and it's too damn expensive to live there anymore. So, just wanted to let you all know that I'm safe and sound in ton until the end of August when I will pick up and move on to another location (I want to go to NC). So, everyone start writing me so that I feel needed and wanted!! e

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Oh, Heidi, how exciting everything is! I can't believe you're almost

halfway there already. I'm glad you had a nice trip to SA, but do try to

catch up on your rest.

I, too, am really behind on emails and don't know what's going on. My Mom

was hospitalized last Friday for pneumonia and emphysema. She just got home

yesterday. I'm in Atlanta because I have to be here for my Mom, of course.

She's doing much better, but I'm staying until Friday to make sure she's OK

at home and help her get settled in. She refused to go to the doctor at

all, and her getting sick was a blessing I suspect. She has high blood

pressure, and needed treatment for that as well as for the emphysema. Now

she's going to be seeing two doctors on a regular basis, thank God.

Your nursery colors sound beautiful, and what a great surprise to come home

to it freshly painted.

Sending lots of love and (((((((((((((((((((((gigantic, gentle

hugs))))))))))))))))))))

Carol

[ ] I'm back!!

Hi there Everyone!!

I've just got back from South Africa, after a really worthwhile but

exhausting trip! I'm back at work and feel like sleeping under my desk lol!

The e-mail I sent just before I left bounced back so I never got to say a

proper goodbye and didn't have any access to a computer there :-( sorry

about that!

I'm light years behind on all the news and my hotmail filled up and bounced

a few of my digests so I won't be able to catch up properly. If anyone has

the time I'd really appreciate a quick summary of the main news I've missed

in the last 10 days so that I can get back on track and send everyone who

needs them some big cyber hugs!

The trip was definitely worthwhile but really tiring, it was also a bit

difficult staying with my brother and his flat mate (they're only 19 yrs

old!) - I've definitely outgrown my student days lol! It made for some

interesting moments.

I had a nice surprise when I got home last night - they'd painted the

nursery!! It looks beautiful, I chose light green walls with light purple

borders and the doors and cupboard are yellow with purple detail - it's a

real baby room! I also found some really cute decorating stuff in South

Africa that I can't wait to stick on.

We had an appointment with the Gynae this morning and did another scan (I'm

almost 18 weeks already!), it was too sweet and you can see the baby (too

big to be a tadpole now lol!) really well, it was rolling around and really

active and everything is fine. He/She? is already about 18cms long!

Although he could have told us today we didn't want to know the sex - we

want a surprise and really don't mind what it is. Makes the shopping more

difficult though, everything is green, yellow or white lol! I still haven't

felt any movement but the doc says that will be in another 2 weeks or so.

I'm looking forward to catching up with everyone but in the meantime am

sending lots of love and (((((((((((((((Big hugs)))))))))))) to all.

Heidi

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