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>It is our strong desire to treat our son's seizures through nutrition,

>and have already started toward that goal. Our dilemma is, how do you

>graciously turn down the drs. recommendations without being considered

>irresponsible parents?

Maybe tell them you need to thoughtfully consider their advice and that you

will get back to them in the future??

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It is our strong desire to treat our son's seizures through nutrition,

and have already started toward that goal. Our dilemma is, how do you

graciously turn down the drs. recommendations without being considered

irresponsible parents? We understand the side effects of the drugs, and

we explained our concern to the drs. But their thoughts were the danger

of the seizures outweigh the side effects of the drugs. So, we thought

we could have him on a low dosage of the medicine, while at the same time

build him up nutritionally hoping not to have him on the drugs long. Has

anyone rejected drug treatment and took a chance with your child

nutritionally? How did you handle the seizures? What were your paths?

Where do you go for a hair analysis? I live in St. Louis.

Thank you,

Bianca

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Bianca,

We had our then 3 1/2 year old daughter Tasya on Depakote for 1 1/2 years

using nutritional means to build her up concurrently. The neuro's are right

that the seizures are dangerous, even life threatening, but they are sadly

wrong if they don't mandate nutritional intervention as a co-factor in

overall treatment of the disorder. Our neuro said that nutrition is okay to

play with but drugs are the only " proven " method of controlling seizure

activity. Of course, the neurologist won't talk to me anymore as Tasya is

off meds (since November 2000), and has only had two waking petite mal's

since and a few small bursts while asleep on occasion, but very mild ones.

I am one of the lucky ones as I run a company that has 12 medical advisors

and resources to do more research than the average person could hope to do.

You can read about my daughters on going saga at my website

http://www.carbonbased.com/EpilepsyJourney.htm .

Hopefully this helps.

In health,

Mark Schauss

[ ] Re: Valproic Acid (Depakane, Depakote)

> It is our strong desire to treat our son's seizures through nutrition,

> and have already started toward that goal. Our dilemma is, how do you

> graciously turn down the drs. recommendations without being considered

> irresponsible parents? We understand the side effects of the drugs, and

> we explained our concern to the drs. But their thoughts were the danger

> of the seizures outweigh the side effects of the drugs. So, we thought

> we could have him on a low dosage of the medicine, while at the same time

> build him up nutritionally hoping not to have him on the drugs long. Has

> anyone rejected drug treatment and took a chance with your child

> nutritionally? How did you handle the seizures? What were your paths?

>

> Where do you go for a hair analysis? I live in St. Louis.

>

> Thank you,

> Bianca

>

>

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Look up www.doctorsdata.com and your doctor should

be able to send it to them. If not them Great Smokies Lab

or Great Plains Lab. Also check amino acids, Mark on

the list should tell you more about that with cellmates.

For me, since my child is autistic, the first thing was to

get all wheat and milk products off. This improved seizures

by at least 50%. Then looking at phenolic foods because he has

PST deficiency (not enough sulphar, which detoxes the body) and even

diets such as FEINGOLD www.feingold.org . Then doing semi

to full paleo diet (www.paleo.org ). Then adding nutrition

with healing the gut (which is the first thing to be addressed in

epilepsy imho), things like L-Glutamine, Aloe Vera (mannatech or other

aloe products), Microhydin (alkalaizes the body), Mitochondrial

Cocktails (Vit A, E, K, C and Nicatinamide), for me

also addressing a carnatine deficiency, Fatty acids such

as Lauric Acids, OMEGA 369 balance, No transfats

(no Mceedees), Homeopathic Mecurials (to remove

mercury since most if not all autistic children are mercury

poisined from vaccinations or environment), Homeopathic

FGF (www.biomedd.com ), and now looking into chelation

We are also on the stealth protocol involving anti virals (www.ccid.org ),

and

I am looking into RIFE treatments to zap buggers and viruses.

Kathy

[ ] Re: Valproic Acid (Depakane, Depakote)

> It is our strong desire to treat our son's seizures through nutrition,

> and have already started toward that goal. Our dilemma is, how do you

> graciously turn down the drs. recommendations without being considered

> irresponsible parents? We understand the side effects of the drugs, and

> we explained our concern to the drs. But their thoughts were the danger

> of the seizures outweigh the side effects of the drugs. So, we thought

> we could have him on a low dosage of the medicine, while at the same time

> build him up nutritionally hoping not to have him on the drugs long. Has

> anyone rejected drug treatment and took a chance with your child

> nutritionally? How did you handle the seizures? What were your paths?

>

> Where do you go for a hair analysis? I live in St. Louis.

>

> Thank you,

> Bianca

>

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<P> My doctor told me all " alternative " options were

" bull-shit. " & nbsp; After being on Dilantin for 10

years, I tried a few other seizure meds that made me

ill, When those meds did not work my doctor said that

I should just stick with the Dilantin because that is

what works for me. & nbsp; I was not happy with that

answer, because the & nbsp;potential for side effects,

one being " coarsening of the facial features " was not

something I wanted to take a chance

with. & nbsp; & nbsp;Also, I read & nbsp;elsewhere that

Dilantin can cause sexual disfunction in women.--not

my idea of fun. & nbsp; So I went against my doctor's

recommendations and <STRONG><U>slowly

</U></STRONG>took myself off my Dilantin. & nbsp; I take

B-Complex, Taurine, Tyrosine, and

Calcium/Magnesium. & nbsp; I went through brief stages

of very minimal seizure activity (just a hint of

electrical " mis-activity " ) and now I am totally off

the Dilantin and I have not had any seizures. & nbsp; It

has not been long, but I am feeling quite fortunate

with my progess, and very disconcerted with my

Doctor's statements. & nbsp; Please keep in mind that I

had simple partial seizures and the risk I have taken

may not be as great as the risk of not taking meds if

a person has grand mal.

<P>Angie

<P> & nbsp; <B><I>rushdelivery1@...</I></B> wrote:

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strong desire to treat our son's seizures through

nutrition,<BR>and have already started toward that

goal. & nbsp; Our dilemma is, how do you<BR>graciously

turn down the drs. recommendations without being

considered<BR>irresponsible parents? & nbsp; We

understand the side effects of the drugs, and<BR>we

explained our concern to the drs. & nbsp; But their

thoughts were the danger<BR>of the seizures outweigh

the side effects of the drugs. & nbsp; So, we

thought<BR>we could have him on a low dosage of the

medicine, while at the same time<BR>build him up

nutritionally hoping not to have him on the drugs

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took a chance with your child<BR>nutritionally? & nbsp;

How did you handle the seizures? & nbsp; What were your

paths?<BR><BR>Where do you go for a hair

analysis? & nbsp; I live in St. Louis.<BR><BR>Thank

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I am now three years seizure free without drugs--drugs never fully

controlled my seizures. The benefits do not outweigh the risks for

everyone. I have some information about taurine with links on my web

page:

http://www.indiana.edu/~pietsch/zoe-taurine.html

Other information here:

http://www.indiana.edu/~pietsch/seizurethreshold.html

You may find this book very helpful as well:

Epilepsy - a Behavior Medicine Approach to Assessment and Treatment

in Children; Joanne Dahl;Paperback(May 1993); Hogrefe & Huber Pub;

ISBN:0889371067

If you are going to decline or muinimize the use of drugs there are

many things you may do to seizure-proof home as well. This next link

will connect you to the Charlie Foundation. Jim Abraham's young son

owes his life to the ketogenic diet. Lot's of info and links there.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2844/mso_charlie.html

Zoe

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>Hi Zoe,

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>I LOVE taurine...! My seizures have decreased to about half & half the

>intensity. I'm just hoping that it will last... Thank you for telling me

>about it!!! Now if I could only stop the heart arrythmias & the fuzzy

>thinking, & could have a somewhat normal life!

>

>~Aja

Aja, read www.paleodiet.com

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Hi Zoe,

I LOVE taurine...! My seizures have decreased to about half & half the

intensity. I'm just hoping that it will last... Thank you for telling me

about it!!! Now if I could only stop the heart arrythmias & the fuzzy

thinking, & could have a somewhat normal life!

~Aja

>From: Zll51@...

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>Subject: [ ] Re: Valproic Acid (Depakane, Depakote)

>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:45:12 -0000

>

>I am now three years seizure free without drugs--drugs never fully

>controlled my seizures. The benefits do not outweigh the risks for

>everyone. I have some information about taurine with links on my web

>page:

>http://www.indiana.edu/~pietsch/zoe-taurine.html

>Other information here:

>http://www.indiana.edu/~pietsch/seizurethreshold.html

>You may find this book very helpful as well:

>Epilepsy - a Behavior Medicine Approach to Assessment and Treatment

>in Children; Joanne Dahl;Paperback(May 1993); Hogrefe & Huber Pub;

>ISBN:0889371067

>

> If you are going to decline or muinimize the use of drugs there are

>many things you may do to seizure-proof home as well. This next link

>will connect you to the Charlie Foundation. Jim Abraham's young son

>owes his life to the ketogenic diet. Lot's of info and links there.

>http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2844/mso_charlie.html

>Zoe

>

>

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Hi Aja!

Great news to hear from you! All seizures are preceded by changes

in blood flow in the areas of the brain where they start. That's why

tests like the SPECT are useful, they track cerebral blood flow and

help in finding where the seizures start. Are you doing any slow deep

breathing routines? Do you want some to try? Conscious control of

your breathing helps regulate the heart and blood flow to the brain.

Be patient, lady, you're doing great!

Zoe

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