Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 I would hope your dentist wouldn't think you were nuts -- there must be alot of people who request " no flouride. " The ADA still advocates it, though, so most (even our holistic dentist) still recommend it. However, it is your decision and you have every right to say no to flouride. We are working with a homeopathic physician and he was pretty adamant regarding " no flouride " -- so that's what we've done! Don't know anything about the Brita. . .although my guess is that it would not remove flouride. Good luck!--D --- A W <AngeliqueW28@...> wrote: > > I have asked questions previously abou my small > children's upcoming dental appointment. I have made > the decision that any cavities to be filled will be > filled with the composite fillings and NOT amalgam > fillings which contain mercury. I will pay any > extra money required to have the safe fillings put > in. Now what about the flouride treatment? My > children do not use flouride toothpaste, I am sure > the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no > flouride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water > filter is removing Flouride from the water I drink > in my home, anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks. > > A. > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 Thanks, I e-mailed Brita directly to see what they would say about the flouride and whether or not their product removes it from the water, I did not let them know what answer I was hoping for---did not want to lead them to the answer I want! DeEtte Person <annarebecca85259@...> wrote: I would hope your dentist wouldn't think you were nuts-- there must be alot of people who request "noflouride." The ADA still advocates it, though, somost (even our holistic dentist) still recommend it. However, it is your decision and you have every rightto say no to flouride. We are working with ahomeopathic physician and he was pretty adamantregarding "no flouride" -- so that's what we've done! Don't know anything about the Brita. . .although myguess is that it would not remove flouride. Good luck!--D--- A W <AngeliqueW28@...> wrote:> > I have asked questions previously abou my small> children's upcoming dental appointment. I have made> the decision that any cavities to be filled will be> filled with the composite fillings and NOT amalgam> fillings which contain mercury. I will pay any> extra money required to have the safe fillings put> in. Now what about the flouride treatment? My> children do not use flouride toothpaste, I am sure> the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no> flouride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water> filter is removing Flouride from the water I drink> in my home, anyone have any ideas?> > Thanks.> > A. > > > > ---------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AngeliqueW28@... writes: << Now what about the fluoride treatment? My children do not use fluoride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no fluoride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Fluoride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? >> I don't really agree with doing flouride teatments for every one. I am a dental hygienist with a brain injured child. It is standard practice in most offices to do one after cleanings for children. BUT, I never do one on kids who don't have some permeant teeth, and I think it should be used on children who had trouble with decay in their baby teeth and you know who don't brush well/often. A topical fluoride treatment will not help the teeth that aren't through the gums, and if all the teeth in the mouth are without decay and their home care is great then why? It matters most about how the teeth are cleaned on a daily bases rather than every six months. As for the Brita,.... I think it is best at removing chlorine but, I am not a 100% on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AngeliqueW28@... writes: << , I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no flouride. >> PS.... I don't think you are nuts. If you came into our office and said that I would respect your decision as a well informed patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 Look up any web site on flouride and you will get a mouthful, literally, it's bad, it's a neurotoxin, have them use your own toothpaste you provide at the appointment without flouride in it Kathy [ ] flouride treatment I have asked questions previously abou my small children's upcoming dental appointment. I have made the decision that any cavities to be filled will be filled with the composite fillings and NOT amalgam fillings which contain mercury. I will pay any extra money required to have the safe fillings put in. Now what about the flouride treatment? My children do not use flouride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no flouride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Flouride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? Thanks. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 Curious ( & butting in): why shouldn't you use fluoridated toothpaste when you spit it out when you're done anyway? I can understand about water -- I use spring water myself. But I just went to the dentist & he told me that before fluoride, the average age of your last tooth decaying & falling out was 30... Was he wrong? What to do? I don't want my child having bad teeth, but I also (obviously) don't want her to have neurological problems either -- I have enough of that myself...! ~Aja >From: Dillr@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] flouride treatment >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:42:24 EDT > >In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >AngeliqueW28@... writes: > ><< , I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no >flouride. > >> > >PS.... >I don't think you are nuts. If you came into our office and said that I >would respect your decision as a well informed patient. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 What about the fact that it forms GA-GTP and attacks thyroid function, which then in turn is not good for those with Seizures Kathy Re: [ ] flouride treatment > In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > AngeliqueW28@... writes: > > << Now what about the fluoride treatment? My children do not use fluoride > toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no > fluoride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Fluoride > from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? >> > > I don't really agree with doing flouride teatments for every one. I am a > dental hygienist with a brain injured child. It is standard practice in most > offices to do one after cleanings for children. BUT, I never do one on kids > who don't have some permeant teeth, and I think it should be used on children > who had trouble with decay in their baby teeth and you know who don't brush > well/often. A topical fluoride treatment will not help the teeth that aren't > through the gums, and if all the teeth in the mouth are without decay and > their home care is great then why? It matters most about how the teeth are > cleaned on a daily bases rather than every six months. > As for the Brita,.... I think it is best at removing chlorine but, I am > not a 100% on that. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 <P> Feel free to butt in, as you say, that's what this is all about, I am not sure what the answer is either, but I am not sure if I would just take your dentist's word for it. & nbsp; I don't know what the answer is either, but I am hoping someone else will give me some answers here. <P>A. <P> & nbsp; <B><I>Aja Beasley & lt;aja_ab@... & gt;</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px " ><TT>Curious ( & amp; butting in): why shouldn't you use fluoridated toothpaste when <BR>you spit it out when you're done anyway? I can understand about water -- I <BR>use spring water myself. But I just went to the dentist & amp; he told me that <BR>before fluoride, the average age of your last tooth decaying & amp; falling out <BR>was 30... Was he wrong? What to do? 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Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 So flouride toothpaste is OK, or not do we agree on that part? I do not use flouride tootpaste, I also have a friend who has never had a cavity in his life and growing up he was too poor to afford flouride toothpaste, he always used baking soda (granted one person's case is not proof) but my point is that his teeth did not decay and fall out as one might think they would after not using flouride toothpaste, comments... Dillr@... wrote: In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AngeliqueW28@... writes:<< Now what about the fluoride treatment? My children do not use fluoride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no fluoride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Fluoride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? >> I don't really agree with doing flouride teatments for every one. I am a dental hygienist with a brain injured child. It is standard practice in most offices to do one after cleanings for children. BUT, I never do one on kids who don't have some permeant teeth, and I think it should be used on children who had trouble with decay in their baby teeth and you know who don't brush well/often. A topical fluoride treatment will not help the teeth that aren't through the gums, and if all the teeth in the mouth are without decay and their home care is great then why? It matters most about how the teeth are cleaned on a daily bases rather than every six months. As for the Brita,.... I think it is best at removing chlorine but, I am not a 100% on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 How is your own toothpaste better? I will check out some websites. <kblanco@...> wrote: Look up any web site on flouride and you will get a mouthful, literally, it's bad, it's a neurotoxin, have them use your own toothpaste you provide at the appointment without flouride in it Kathy [ ] flouride treatment I have asked questions previously abou my small children's upcoming dental appointment. I have made the decision that any cavities to be filled will be filled with the composite fillings and NOT amalgam fillings which contain mercury. I will pay any extra money required to have the safe fillings put in. Now what about the flouride treatment? My children do not use flouride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no flouride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Flouride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? Thanks. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In a message dated 8/27/01 10:04:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kblanco@... writes: What about the fact that it forms GA-GTP and attacks thyroid function, which then in turn is not good for those with Seizures Kathy =============== It is really up to everyone to decide if fluoride is right for them. It has benifits for the teeth there is no doubt. It has greatly reduced decay over the years. As for other parts of the body I know it can cause problems if one would be susceptible. But, remember all medicine can have some kind of adverse affects. The air that we breath in a major metropolitan area can give some carbon monoxide poison and other things. I guess it is up to us as parents to decide what is good or not good for our children due to their conditions or situations. Blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In a message dated 8/27/01 10:15:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aja_ab@... writes: << But I just went to the dentist & he told me that before fluoride, the average age of your last tooth decaying & falling out was 30... Was he wrong? What to do? I don't want my child having bad teeth, but I also (obviously) don't want her to have neurological problems either -- I have enough of that myself...! >> Your dentist is right. My feelings are if you or your child can rinse and spit than it might be OK to use fluoride toothpaste. As for the fluoride treatment at the dental office they usually require the patient not to rinse or eat for thirty minutes after a treatment. There are some treatments now that will allow for rinsing. Some small children like to eat the toothpaste and therefore need to be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 Flouride can actually CAUSE dental FLOUROSIS! Look up the web sites! Kathy Re: [ ] flouride treatment So flouride toothpaste is OK, or not do we agree on that part? I do not use flouride tootpaste, I also have a friend who has never had a cavity in his life and growing up he was too poor to afford flouride toothpaste, he always used baking soda (granted one person's case is not proof) but my point is that his teeth did not decay and fall out as one might think they would after not using flouride toothpaste, comments... Dillr@... wrote: In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AngeliqueW28@... writes:<< Now what about the fluoride treatment? My children do not use fluoride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no fluoride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Fluoride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? >> I don't really agree with doing flouride teatments for every one. I am a dental hygienist with a brain injured child. It is standard practice in most offices to do one after cleanings for children. BUT, I never do one on kids who don't have some permeant teeth, and I think it should be used on children who had trouble with decay in their baby teeth and you know who don't brush well/often. A topical fluoride treatment will not help the teeth that aren't through the gums, and if all the teeth in the mouth are without decay and their home care is great then why? It matters most about how the teeth are cleaned on a daily bases rather than every six months. As for the Brita,.... I think it is best at removing chlorine but, I am not a 100% on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 The toothpaste does not contain flouride....PERIOD Kathy [ ] flouride treatment I have asked questions previously abou my small children's upcoming dental appointment. I have made the decision that any cavities to be filled will be filled with the composite fillings and NOT amalgam fillings which contain mercury. I will pay any extra money required to have the safe fillings put in. Now what about the flouride treatment? My children do not use flouride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no flouride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Flouride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? Thanks. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 Got it, thanks, I will continue to use toothpaste without flouride and will not allow the flouride treatments at the dentist. I have not heard back from Brita yet regarding flouride removal from my water, guess I can just buy bottled water. <kblanco@...> wrote: Flouride can actually CAUSE dental FLOUROSIS! Look up the web sites! Kathy Re: [ ] flouride treatment So flouride toothpaste is OK, or not do we agree on that part? I do not use flouride tootpaste, I also have a friend who has never had a cavity in his life and growing up he was too poor to afford flouride toothpaste, he always used baking soda (granted one person's case is not proof) but my point is that his teeth did not decay and fall out as one might think they would after not using flouride toothpaste, comments... Dillr@... wrote: In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AngeliqueW28@... writes:<< Now what about the fluoride treatment? My children do not use fluoride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no fluoride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Fluoride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? >> I don't really agree with doing flouride teatments for every one. I am a dental hygienist with a brain injured child. It is standard practice in most offices to do one after cleanings for children. BUT, I never do one on kids who don't have some permeant teeth, and I think it should be used on children who had trouble with decay in their baby teeth and you know who don't brush well/often. A topical fluoride treatment will not help the teeth that aren't through the gums, and if all the teeth in the mouth are without decay and their home care is great then why? It matters most about how the teeth are cleaned on a daily bases rather than every six months. As for the Brita,.... I think it is best at removing chlorine but, I am not a 100% on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 The only way you get flouride out of water is through REVERSE OSMOSIS. Kathy Re: [ ] flouride treatment So flouride toothpaste is OK, or not do we agree on that part? I do not use flouride tootpaste, I also have a friend who has never had a cavity in his life and growing up he was too poor to afford flouride toothpaste, he always used baking soda (granted one person's case is not proof) but my point is that his teeth did not decay and fall out as one might think they would after not using flouride toothpaste, comments... Dillr@... wrote: In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AngeliqueW28@... writes:<< Now what about the fluoride treatment? My children do not use fluoride toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no fluoride. Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Fluoride from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? >> I don't really agree with doing flouride teatments for every one. I am a dental hygienist with a brain injured child. It is standard practice in most offices to do one after cleanings for children. BUT, I never do one on kids who don't have some permeant teeth, and I think it should be used on children who had trouble with decay in their baby teeth and you know who don't brush well/often. A topical fluoride treatment will not help the teeth that aren't through the gums, and if all the teeth in the mouth are without decay and their home care is great then why? It matters most about how the teeth are cleaned on a daily bases rather than every six months. As for the Brita,.... I think it is best at removing chlorine but, I am not a 100% on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 <P> thanks, all very interesting <P> & nbsp; <B><I> & lt;kblanco@... & gt;</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px " ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN " > <META content= " MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500 " name=GENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The only way you get flouride out of water is through REVERSE OSMOSIS.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kathy</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px " > <DIV style= " FONT: 10pt arial " ></B> Re: [ ] flouride treatment</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <P>So flouride toothpaste is OK, or not do we agree on that part? & nbsp; I do not use flouride tootpaste, I also have a friend who has never had a cavity in his life and growing up he was too poor to afford flouride toothpaste, he always used baking soda (granted one person's case is not proof) but my point is that his teeth did not decay and fall out as one might think they would after not using flouride toothpaste, comments... <P> & nbsp; <B><I>Dillr@...</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px " ><TT>In a message dated 8/27/01 3:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>AngeliqueW28@... writes:<BR><BR> & lt; & lt; & nbsp; & nbsp; Now what about the fluoride treatment? & nbsp; My children do not use fluoride <BR>toothpaste, I am sure the dentist will think I am nuts when I tell him no <BR>fluoride. & nbsp; Also, I am wondering if my Brita water filter is removing Fluoride <BR>from the water I drink in my home, anyone have any ideas? & gt; & gt;<BR><BR> & nbsp; I don't really agree with doing flouride teatments for every one. I am a <BR>dental hygienist with a brain injured child. & nbsp; It is standard practice in most <BR>offices to do one after cleanings for children. BUT, I never do one on kids <BR>who don't have some permeant teeth, and I think it should be used on children <BR>who had trouble with decay in their baby teeth and you know who don't brush <BR>well/often. A topical fluoride treatment will not help the teeth that aren't <BR>through the gums, and if all the teeth in the mouth are without decay and <BR>their home care is great then why? & nbsp; It matters most about how the teeth are <BR>cleaned on a daily bases rather than every six months.<BR> & nbsp; & nbsp; As for the Brita,.... I think it is best at removing chlorine but, I am <BR>not a 100% on that.<BR><BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>Learn more from our experience, stories:<BR> & nbsp; <A href= " messages/epilepsy-testimonials " >http://groups.yaho\ o.com/messages/epilepsy-testimonials</A><BR><BR>Web Sites for more information:<BR><A href= " http://curezone.com/diseases/epilepsy/ " >http://CureZone.com/diseases/epile\ psy/</A><BR><A href= " http://curezone.com/diseases/parasites/ " >http://CureZone.com/diseases/para\ sites/</A><BR><BR>Receive No Mail: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; -nomail <BR>Receive Digest Version: -digest <BR>Receive All e-mails: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; -normal <BR>Post message: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; <BR>Subscribe: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;\ & nbsp; & nbsp; -subscribe <BR><BR>Unsubscribe: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nb\ sp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; -unsubscribe <BR><BR>Group page: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; <A href= " " >group\ / </A><BR>Group Archives: & nbsp; <A href= " messages/ " >me\ ssages/ </A><BR><BR>You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day !</TT> <BR><BR><TT> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 I am afraid the ADA (no put down here) has indocrinated you. Please be open to the facts, and read the web sites and abstracts, they don't prevent tooth decay, the teeth fall out (remember that quote, 4 out of 5 dentist say...._). My teeth are ten times better ever since I took my flouride toothpaste away, as well as my children, reduced it in my water and in my juices and even in my pharmaceuticals! I am afraid that I no longer trust the established ADA (which still thinks mercury fillings are safe), AMA (which still believes vaccines are safe), the FDA (which still thinks Aspartame is safe) and NIH (which doesn't believe their is epidemics of autism) and CDC (who like to send a blind eye to all diseases and that they coin them all genetic). Oh, and let's not forget the good ole EPA (which still releases mercury emissions and pollution for the benefit of all) ARGH. Can't live in this world anymore, but one thing is for sure, you got be smart in this world, and when it comes to epilepsy or autism and kids with already a toxic or viral load, you have to be twice as smart. Kathy Re: [ ] flouride treatment > In a message dated 8/27/01 10:04:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > kblanco@... writes: > > > > > What about the fact that it forms GA-GTP and attacks thyroid function, which > then in turn is not good for those with Seizures > Kathy > =============== > It is really up to everyone to decide if fluoride is right for them. It > has benifits for the teeth there is no doubt. It has greatly reduced decay > over the years. As for other parts of the body I know it can cause problems > if one would be susceptible. But, remember all medicine can have some kind > of adverse affects. The air that we breath in a major metropolitan area can > give some carbon monoxide poison and other things. > > I guess it is up to us as parents to decide what is good or not good for our > children due to their conditions or situations. > Blessings > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In a message dated 8/28/01 11:30:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, AngeliqueW28@... writes: << but my point is that his teeth did not decay and fall out as one might think they would after not using flouride toothpaste, comments... >> I really think this whole fluoride thing is getting over debated. There are always going to be people who have great success and show no tooth decay. Even if they don't brush everyday. It depends on their genetic make up and the mineral content of their teeth. Some people don't get many cavities and some do, and some have better success (healthier teeth) if they have the help of fluoride. I am not saying fluoride is a good thing or a bad thing. It can be both. Actually the major reason for loosing teeth is due to periodontal disease. But that is another subject. I don't want to go over what I have studied about teeth in the past 20 years with schooling and many continuing Ed courses. What I agree with you on is if you or your child has an existing neurological condition than maybe not using fluoride would be a good idea and your dentist should be understanding. I have never really pushed the issue that every patient had to have a fluoride treatment. I don't agree with giving them to everyone. But, if a " normal healthy " child comes into the office with rampid decay we would first discuss diet, then proper brushing and probably recommend fluoride. Now, if I took my daughter into have her teeth cleaned and knowing she is severely neurological impaired I would be very careful about what she receives and she wouldn't have fluoride. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In a message dated 8/28/01 1:32:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kblanco@... writes: << Flouride can actually CAUSE dental FLOUROSIS! >> Yes, if too much is ingested. Not the topical kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In a message dated 8/28/01 10:34:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kblanco@... writes: << How many kids ingest their toothpaste? Kathy >> Kathy, I really don't know. Probably some. Some like to eat it. Of course they shouldn't and need to be watched so they rinse and spit it out. We instruct parents of very young children to just use water or a wash cloth to wipe the teeth. When tooth paste is started we instruct them to use the amount about the size of a tiny pea no more. Teach the child to spit out and if they don't go back to water until they can. I am just commenting on dental fluorosis. To get these white spots on the teeth which can be fluoriosis or possibly the child had some kind of trauma when the teeth were developing. Anyway for dental fluorosis, the fluoride has to be ingested in high amounts. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In a message dated 8/28/01 10:41:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kblanco@... writes: << This is a list with neurologically impaired people, and so I offer the thought, this is a neurotoxin. It is also cancer causing. Let's look beyond the mark, no one else will. Oh the word genetics, how it throws out like a river to the wind...I hear that word so many times, I think I shall scream. It always plays like an excuse to look away from the real cause or trigger of things. Schooling with the ADA will not an education make, nor will internet browsing, but I think looking through scientific abstracts not attatched to ADA on the subject hits more my fancy. No cut here intended, >> ======= I have a severely neurologically impaired child who is five years old and can't even sit up alone. She has had many daily seizures most of her life. Someone asked a question on this list about fluoride and being a dental professional I answered it in terms that I know. Not to get in a heated debate whether it is good or bad. I have stated it isn't good for neurologically impaired people and I wouldn't use on my child. However it is OK for some. As is Tylenol, but for some it can also cause liver problems. Anyway I have a very stressful life and hate it most of the time so I am signing off for a little while. This whole thing is stupid Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 In a message dated 8/28/01 10:41:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kblanco@... writes: << aluminum >> There is aluminum in deodorant also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Everyone: --http://www.earthlife.org.za/factsheets/fs-flouride.htm --http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa020700b.htm (Mom, please look at this) --A.W.: carbon-based water filters such as the Brita filter do not remove flouride ~Aja >From: " " <kblanco@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: [ ] flouride treatment >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:00:10 -0700 > > >I am afraid the ADA (no put down here) has indocrinated you. Please be >open >to the facts, and read the web sites and abstracts, they don't prevent >tooth >decay, the teeth fall out (remember that quote, 4 out of 5 dentist >say...._). My teeth are ten times better ever since I took my flouride >toothpaste away, as well as my children, reduced it in my water and in my >juices and even in my pharmaceuticals! I am afraid that I no longer trust >the established ADA (which still thinks mercury fillings are safe), AMA >(which still believes vaccines are safe), the FDA (which still thinks >Aspartame is safe) and NIH (which doesn't believe their is epidemics of >autism) and CDC (who like to send a blind eye to all diseases and that they >coin them all genetic). Oh, and let's not forget the good ole EPA (which >still releases mercury emissions and pollution for the benefit of all) >ARGH. >Can't live in this world anymore, but one thing is for sure, you got be >smart in this world, and when it comes to epilepsy or autism and kids with >already a toxic or viral load, you have to be twice as smart. >Kathy > Re: [ ] flouride treatment > > > > In a message dated 8/27/01 10:04:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > kblanco@... writes: > > > > > > > > > > What about the fact that it forms GA-GTP and attacks thyroid function, >which > > then in turn is not good for those with Seizures > > Kathy > > =============== > > It is really up to everyone to decide if fluoride is right for them. >It > > has benifits for the teeth there is no doubt. It has greatly reduced >decay > > over the years. As for other parts of the body I know it can cause >problems > > if one would be susceptible. But, remember all medicine can have some >kind > > of adverse affects. The air that we breath in a major metropolitan area >can > > give some carbon monoxide poison and other things. > > > > I guess it is up to us as parents to decide what is good or not good for >our > > children due to their conditions or situations. > > Blessings > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 And, this doesn't account just for toothpaste, we are talking sodas, water, juices, etc etc etc. Kathy Re: [ ] flouride treatment > In a message dated 8/28/01 1:32:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > kblanco@... writes: > > << Flouride can actually CAUSE dental FLOUROSIS! >> > > Yes, if too much is ingested. Not the topical kind. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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