Guest guest Posted July 12, 1999 Report Share Posted July 12, 1999 I don't believe there's a cure for epilepsy at this time. A cure sounds like the speech of a snake oil salesman to me. A medical condition should be treated by a doctor, with medication, and all the medical tests. It's a shame that there are people in this world who would take advantage of suffering people and try to make money from their pain. Becky >From: Biamont <cbiamont@...> >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: [ ] How do you cure epilepsy? >Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:46:17 -0700 (PDT) > >From: Biamont <cbiamont@...> > >I would be very interested in finding out more about curing epilepsy! >My twins both boys and myself all have seizures and we would like to >find out how to cure this god forsaken illness. This is the first time >I've even heard about a cure and i have lived with eplipsey for the >last 38 years any help will be of great benefit for myself kids and >wife. > >Thanks > > M Biamont > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 1999 Report Share Posted July 12, 1999 Me too. WE have no idea what to do. My daughter is 13 and is having fits again. She had them for a short time when she was about 4. They just went away, I guess. WE don't have insurance, and my husband is out of work right now. She has not had a fit for 2 weeks now. Before that, she was having 3-4 fits a week. She has had a lot of the stress removed from her life, and stopped drinking caffeine products, and we think that has helped. Lib -- mailto:libbym@... ICQ# 14104265 homepage: http://www.angelfire.com/tx/Mansion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Did you already see the posting of the letter from the woman who cured her son of epilepsy using Hulda 's methods? It was posted about a month ago and I think I pasted it into a post I did a couple weeks ago. Becky wrote: > It's a shame that there are people in this world who would take advantage > of suffering people and try to make money from their pain. What seems to me a greater shame is that some people are so close minded and judgmental that they would make a statement such as this, accusing people who genuinely want to HELP suffering people by curing them at a root level rather than treating the symptoms of " trying to make money from their pain. " It's fine that you are satisfied with the standard medical treatment and coping with epilepsy that way but please don't insist that all others follow your path or discourage those who follow a different path or are striving for a different goal. I do not have time to give multiple examples to refute your statements, but just to give a few...The ketogenic diet has helped many children who were not responding to anticonvulsants and is supervised by many M.D.s (those guys you hold on a pedestal). I know personally of a case of a boy who was completely cured of his epilepsy when he received the correct homeopathic remedy. I also know of that boy cured with Hulda 's methods--posted on this list--although not personally. (The mother listed her name and phone number, however, so I encourage all interested, including the doubting es, to contact her.) > >From: Biamont <cbiamont@...> > >Reply- onelist > > >I would be very interested in finding out more about curing epilepsy! > >My twins both boys and myself all have seizures and we would like to > >find out how to cure this god forsaken illness. This is the first time > >I've even heard about a cure and i have lived with eplipsey for the > >last 38 years any help will be of great benefit for myself kids and > >wife. > > > >Thanks > > > > M Biamont > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Okay, here is a quick repost of the one I was talking about. One story from: http://www.road-to-health.com/RHtrace.htm Success Stories Using The Method Dear Bonnie, May 11, 1997 Our son Trace (Tr- " ace " ) had his first grand mal seizure on his third birthday, February 11, 1996 (one year and three months ago). The seizure lasted approximately 3 to 5 minutes and he was unconscious for one and a half hours afterward. He was taken to emergency and a Pediatric Neurologist was contacted. Since it was Sunday the Neurologist didn't come in, instead he listened to Trace's history over the phone and advised that he be started on Dilantin. This was the start of our nightmare. Staph Infection At Birth: Trace's history includes a rough first year of life. He had contracted a staph infection in his eyes in the hospital where he was born. It quickly spread to his ears, and at one week he had double ear infections. From that time on he suffered chronic ear infections and was constantly on stronger and stronger antibiotics. At nine months, after nine double ear infections, he had tubes placed in both ears. One month later he was finally off antibiotics (for a short time). He continued to have sinus problems and was very susceptible to any illness going around, including strep throat. During his first year he had multiple high fevers (over 104°), but had never had a convulsion. A Dog Bite (A Minor Puncture Wound) and Convulsions: At 13 months Trace suffered a minor dog bite (single puncture wound) to his left cheek. Fourteen hours after being bitten the left side of his face swelled dramatically and his fever went over 105° despite medication. When I picked him up to take him to emergency he began convulsing. The convulsing lasted 10 to 15 seconds and occurred twice in a few minutes. He was in the hospital for three days and on IV antibiotics to resolve the infection. He did not have any additional convulsions. At that time the doctors did a series of blood tests to evaluate his immune system since they felt he should not have reacted so severely to a minor puncture wound. Nothing was found. >From that day forward whenever Trace had a high fever (over 103°) he would occasionally have brief one second convulsions. When we told his Pediatrician about this she said: " Febrile seizures are very common and nothing to worry about. " When Trace was about two and a half his convulsions started occurring even with 100° temperatures. We were again told that this was " nothing to worry about. " A Bump On The Head Leads To More Serious Seizures: A month before his third birthday, January 1, 1996, Trace fell off of an 8 " stool and hit his head on the bathroom floor. He went completely limp and was unresponsive, then suddenly his body jerked and he returned to consciousness. We had called 911, but by the time the paramedics arrived he appeared dazed, but normal. The paramedics were preparing to leave when Trace suddenly convulsed again. The paramedic sitting with him on the couch saw it and insisted he be taken to the hospital. At the hospital he had a computed tomographic (CT) scan which was negative for swelling and they released him to follow-up with his Pediatrician the next day. This time his Pediatrician decided it might be wise to do an electroencephalo-graphy (EEG) sometime in the future - but there was no rush. Four weeks later Trace came down with a fever of 105°+ for no apparent reason, and he had over 10 convulsions in a 24 hour period. At the emergency room the doctors took Trace's blood for testing and scheduled the EEG for the next day. The fever resolved in two more days. We were still waiting for the EEG report when Trace was sent home (his blood work showed nothing). Grand Mal Seizures: On February 11, 1996 Trace showed no sign of being sick, but when I was dressing him for Church I thought he jerked. I wasn't sure, and he seemed fine, so we went to Church and thought nothing of it. Two hours later, again for no apparent reason, he had a grand mal seizure. >From that time on his longest period without a seizure was two weeks. At first the doctors were optimistic because up to this time he had developed normally and was a very intelligent child. These were good indications. However, we found out that the convulsions or jerks that he had been having since he was 13 months old were not normal febrile seizures. They were myoclonic jerks which are not common. Despite increased medications the myoclonic seizures became a daily occurrence as well as almost daily grand mal seizures. In addition, we now had to deal with the side effects of his medications. Over the next six months the doctors went from optimistic to confused to sorry. Trace went from our normal three year old son to a child who could barely walk, talk or feed himself, let alone play or enjoy life. Five Different Types of Seizures/Over 100 Each Day: Trace had five different types of seizures: Tonic-clonic (grand mal), myoclonic, atomic or drop seizures, absence (petit mal) and atypical absence. At his worst he had over 100 seizures a day. The specialists at UCSF Epileptology Center didn't have anything to offer and they felt our doctors were proceeding just as they would. Some medications would help for a few days or at best a week, and then he'd get worse than before. We spent weeks on end in the Pediatric ICU since he was frequently in status epilepticas. They did multiple EEGs including one with a 24 hour closed circuit TV. They did multiple MRIs, spinal taps, and blood tests. Nothing produced answers. The Ketogenic Diet Proves Devastating: Finally we turned to the Ketogenic Diet, a very radical high fat diet used with children with uncontrollable seizures. We though this was God's answer to our prayers. We were going to give it our best shot. Our son almost died from it. He was unable to eat or drink the high fat liquids and foods which are necessary for the diet to work. He would vomit everything right back up and finally refused to eat altogether. The doctors and the dietitian felt that eventually he would get hungry enough that he would eat anything. He dropped from a very thin 30 pounds to 24 ½ pounds and became so weak he could hardly sit up - and the seizures never let up. Prayers and God's Helpers: We prayed everyday for answers and we had people all over the west coast praying and searching for answers. Many people were sending us information about alternative treatments, diets, supplements, etc. When we would get something that sounded feasible or made sense we would ask the doctors about it. One friend of ours, Paris, was very persistent in sending us any information she could find. " Pay attention! Here's the answer that you've been asking for! " It was Paris who told us about Dr. 's book The Cure For All Cancers and the possibility that seizures might be related to parasites. (She had used the liver cleanse recipe in the book for some health problems she had had and it had been very effective.) Because of Trace's dog bite the information about parasites immediately touched something inside of us. At this time Trace was in the hospital due to status epilepticas and we asked the doctors if his condition could be caused by or related to parasites and we mentioned, again, about the dog bite. They said there was no chance: " Something would have shown on the MRIs or the blood tests, etc. " We didn't think much more about it until two weeks later when sent us a copy of a chapter out of another of Dr. 's books. The book was The Cure For All Diseases ( had found it in her health food store). I did not like the title and was very skeptical when I began reading. The first sentence made me even more skeptical: " Seizures are always caused by Ascaris. " My first thought was: " No way! " But, after reading the whole chapter, I couldn't shake the feeling that this made a lot of common sense. It connected so directly with different experiences we had had with Trace that I felt like God was slapping me in the face and saying: " Pay attention! Here's the answer that you've been asking for! " For instance, when Trace had been seizure free for a week and seemed to be doing well, why did he go into status epilepticus out of the blue . . . two hours after he had eaten Chinese food? He always ate his favorite Chinese food: chicken chow mein and sweet and sour pork (MSG, red dye, canned pineapple and pork). Also, he didn't get soda at home, but when we went out to a Chinese restaurant he would always have soda (Xylene, toluene). Trace Diagnosed with Lennox-Gestaut: One week after reading Dr. 's information our doctors informed us that they believed what we had feared most was true . . . Trace had Lennox-Gestaut, a relatively rare, incurable and progressive form of epilepsy. The prognosis was that he would be severely retarded in three to five years. He was already non-functional due to 100+ seizures per day and the side effects of the four different drugs he was taking. The doctors said he would most likely die in his teens to early twenties of one continuous seizure. All the doctors had to offer were some experimental and/or out-of-the-country drugs which might slow the process and to attempt the Ketogenic Diet again by putting a tube into his stomach. We couldn't accept this. An Avenue of Hope Leads To Success: I tracked down Dr. and called her clinic in Tijuana, Mexico. I was able to talk directly to Dr. . I told her my son's condition, his diagnosis and prognosis. She said: " Bring him down immediately. " I asked her: " Do you think you can help him? " She said: " I think I can cure him, bring him down. " Faced with doctors who didn't think they could do anything for Trace and one who said she could cure him, we felt it was pretty obvious what we should do. Nevertheless, we were scared. Especially about taking a sick child into Mexico - we had heard that Tijuana was not the most honest or the cleanest place in the world. We got lots of different opinions about what we were about to do from friends, family and especially Trace's doctors. The people who had seen Trace at his worst understood why we had to pursue this avenue of hope. Even Trace's Neurologist supported us. He didn't believe it would work but he said he would probably do the same if it were his child. The first day we went to the clinic we were relieved by its appearance and location. Trace had a blood test and a technician took a saliva sample for Syncrometer testing (Trace refused to be probed so all Syncrometer testing was done using his saliva). We talked with many patients already being treated - mainly for cancer. The stories were amazing - all of Dr. 's patients were dramatically better or even cured. The second day we saw Dr. . She reviewed and compared the Syncrometer and blood tests. She told us what was wrong with Trace and what needed to be done to correct it. She wrote out a whole list of things we needed to do. She tested my husband and me for Ascaris and we were both positive. (Before we left for Mexico, on Dr. 's instructions by phone, we had given away our dog and steam cleaned our carpets.) We left her office completely overwhelmed. The scariest thing was that she told us Trace would have to come off of all of his medication (because it was contaminated with benzene and was killing his liver). We returned home with a Zapper and all the supplements that Dr. told us to get. Two days later we saw our Neurologist. He reviewed Dr. 's tests and recommendations. Her blood test checked out against his and, in his opinion, nothing Dr. recommended seemed dangerous - except stopping the medications. But, since they didn't seem to be doing much good anyway, he gave us a conservative schedule for tapering Trace off all of his medications. We started Trace zapping (7 minutes on and 20 minutes off, three consecutive times, repeated once a day) and taking ½ teaspoon of Black Walnut Tincture Extra Strength in ½ a glass of water twice a week. (This regime is to be continued for two years.) During the first week Trace's seizures got worse, especially when we began reducing his medication. The first dramatic improvement we noted was when we began giving Trace taurine three times a day. This seemed to reduce the drop seizures and myoclonic jerks. Over the next two weeks Trace went from 100+ seizures per day to seizure-free!! His nighttime and early morning seizures were the last to go. Herbal Modifications: Even though cloves and wormwood capsules were not appropriate for Trace both my husband and I were instructed to take them. My husband does not take the Black Walnut Tincture because it contains alcohol, but I take it, and we are both zapping. Syncrometer Investigation Proves Successful: When attending the Syncrometer class I had one of Trace's stuffed animals tested. It tested positive for toluene, a solvent highly toxic to the brain. Trace slept with stuffed animals all over his bed. The day I returned home from the Syncrometer class we removed all stuffed animals from his room - and that was his first night seizure-free! Temporary Setbacks: Trace went 25 days seizure-free and during that time we were able to eliminate two medications. Then, on the 23rd day, before we could stop him, he hugged a dog. He put his face right in the dog's fur and gave him a big hug. We zapped him that night and the next night, but he woke up the following morning with a grand mal seizure. We asked ourselves: " Why didn't the Zapper stop the parasites from returning to the brain? " We speculated that since Trace had a chronic runny nose that possibly the parasites were shielded in his fluid-filled sinuses. Dr. reports that it takes as little as two days for Ascaris eggs to hatch and the microscopic larva to travel back to the seizure center of the brain. Trace had one other relapse 15 days following the first. It occurred two days after a visit to his Pediatric Neurologist. At the Neurologist's office, while waiting in the waiting room, he played on the floor with other children who have seizures - and they were all handling the same toys. This second relapse resulted in the most violent grand mal seizure he ever had. However, with multiple zapping and administering Black Walnut Tincture Extra Strength, he was back to normal by 2 pm (after waking up with the seizure that morning). Both relapses occurred less than two days after Trace was exposed to likely parasite egg-carriers and we believe the parasite eggs hatched and reached his brain in less than two days because of his fluid-filled sinuses being directly in front of his brain. Trace has now been seizure-free and medication-free for ten months. He has no apparent deficits or delays. His chronic runny nose resolved three days after his last dose of anti-seizure medication. During the past 10 months Trace got sick one time and we discovered it was because our Zapper was broken. His fever went to 104°, but he didn't have a single twitch, let alone a seizure. We have learned to give Trace a dose of Black Walnut Tincture Extra Strength after exposure to animals or situations which are high risk for parasites, and then we continue from there with his twice per week dosage. " Trace, The Miracle Child " One month ago Trace had an EEG because his Neurologist wanted to see what it would show. His EEG was completely normal!!! According to our doctors no child diagnosed with Lennox-Gestaut has ever been seizure-free, medication-free, or had normal development and a normal EEG before. The doctors call Trace " The Miracle Child. " We know God blessed us with a miracle and Dr. was His tool. Through hearing about our experience many other people have produced dramatic changes in their health by pursuing Dr. 's methods. Among the people following Dr. 's methods, after hearing about Trace, are two other patients of our Neurologist. One was given our number by the Neurologist himself. We dearly thank Dr. for all she has done. Neways, A Company With Carcinogen Free/Solvent-Free Personal Care Products: Our life has recently become a little easier, in regard to following Dr. 's instructions for a solvent-free life. We were introduced to a company named Neways that claims to make carcinogen-free and solvent-free health and personal care products. I was, of course, very skeptical of this since many products claiming to be natural or pure had failed testing with my Syncrometer. A friend gave me samples of Neways' shampoos, body washes, toothpaste and multipurpose cleaners. I tested them with my Syncrometer and they tested clean. Not completely confident with my own results, I sent six of their products to be tested by Carmen Myers at the Self Health Resource Center. Five out of the six tested completely clean. The sixth Carmen felt might have a trace amount of tetrazine (a yellow food coloring). Tetrazine is not associated with any specific health problem but Dr. advises against it because it is difficult for the kidneys to eliminate. Carmen's tests were not conclusive for tetrazine, but I contacted the company anyway to ask about it. They assured me that no dyes are used in processing their products. I am inclined to trust them because of the purity of their other products. I have been thrilled to find such pure products. Dr. has been invited to the Neways' plant to test all their products. Hopefully she will do this soon. The five completely pure products are: 1. Maximol Solutions - a colloidal mineral solution with vitamins, amino acids and enzymes. 2. Silken Mild Family Shampoo 3. Purge - a parasite cleanse formula 4. Radiance - a tooth paste that also whitens 5. Eliminator - a mouthwash and multipurpose antibacterial, antimold, antifungal cleaner The Product with a slight possibility of Tetrazine but otherwise pure: 1. Revenol - a super antioxidant containing pycnogenol from pine bark and grapeseed extract Questions? Do you have questions? Please call and I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. Call: (209) 745-9638. God Bless. 893 Black Canyon Court Galt, CA 95632 (209) 745-9638 For further information on Dr. , one site you can check out is http://www..ch. This was started by a guy in Switzerland who really wants to further research Dr. 's methods and help validate them and is working with several doctors. It's easy to become a supporting member and receive the newsletter. Of course, there is also a page for Self Health, (don't have the address handy) which also is closely associated with Dr. (run by her son Geoff I believe). Her books are available in health food stores. All right, now I really have to go to bed. Good luck! Biamont wrote: > From: Biamont <cbiamont@...> > > I've never heard of that cure can you tell me when that was posted > since yesterday was the first time I had even been in this the epilepsy > area. > > M Biamont > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 I've never heard of that cure can you tell me when that was posted since yesterday was the first time I had even been in this the epilepsy area. M Biamont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 -Thanks for the msg It sounds like My 2 sons all over agian I have twins age 3 who have seizures and I also do and it can drive you insane sometimes. Thanks agian M. Biamont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Epilepsy is a dangerous medical disorder, and not one to fool around with. If people do not take their medication, they risk certain death. Would you want to be responsible for this danger? Do you have a medical degree and can you back up your claims with proof? As for a judgmental statement, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. Nothing judgemental about identifying. Becky >From: " A.A. Milne " <poohbear@...> >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] How do you cure epilepsy? >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:13:35 -0700 > >Did you already see the posting of the letter from the woman who cured her >son >of epilepsy using Hulda 's methods? It was posted about a month ago >and I >think I pasted it into a post I did a couple weeks ago. > >Becky wrote: > > > It's a shame that there are people in this world who would take >advantage > > of suffering people and try to make money from their pain. > >What seems to me a greater shame is that some people are so close minded >and >judgmental that they would make a statement such as this, accusing people >who >genuinely want to HELP suffering people by curing them at a root level >rather >than treating the symptoms of " trying to make money from their pain. " It's >fine >that you are satisfied with the standard medical treatment and coping with >epilepsy that way but please don't insist that all others follow your path >or >discourage those who follow a different path or are striving for a >different >goal. I do not have time to give multiple examples to refute your >statements, >but just to give a few...The ketogenic diet has helped many children who >were >not responding to anticonvulsants and is supervised by many M.D.s (those >guys >you hold on a pedestal). I know personally of a case of a boy who was >completely cured of his epilepsy when he received the correct homeopathic >remedy. I also know of that boy cured with Hulda 's methods--posted >on >this list--although not personally. (The mother listed her name and phone >number, however, so I encourage all interested, including the doubting >es, >to contact her.) > > > > >From: Biamont <cbiamont@...> > > >Reply- onelist > > > > >I would be very interested in finding out more about curing epilepsy! > > >My twins both boys and myself all have seizures and we would like to > > >find out how to cure this god forsaken illness. This is the first time > > >I've even heard about a cure and i have lived with eplipsey for the > > >last 38 years any help will be of great benefit for myself kids and > > >wife. > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > M Biamont > > > ><< poohbear.vcf >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Depends upon how the word cure is defined. Often the word cure is used to mean finding an effective treatment which temporarily reduces some of the symptoms of epilepsy. That's my opinion. It all depends upon how the word cure is defined. In the very narrowest use of the word cure, perhaps there are very few real permanent cures for most of those with epilepsy. In a very broader use of the word cure, finding a treatment which works a little and is seen as being effective, yes, there are some kinds of cures when defined more broadly like that it seems to me. Good question. --- > I would be very interested in finding out more about curing epilepsy! > My twins both boys and myself all have seizures and we would like to > find out how to cure this god forsaken illness. This is the first time > I've even heard about a cure and i have lived with eplipsey for the > last 38 years any help will be of great benefit for myself kids and > wife. > > Thanks > > M Biamont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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