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I had that too, the cramps. It's been better since being on the

methamizole (sp?). Instead of the propranolol I was taking hawthorn

berry syrup, has anybody tried that?

tiggertyme2002 wrote:

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium, calcium and

> it always comes back.

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Hi Annette

I get bad cramping sometimes in my feet and frequently in my upper leg when I am

hypo. This doesn't happen much any other time, unless I really overdo it badly.

Then anyone could expect a cramp or two...

Kate

cramping feet and remission

Hey there,

Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with Graves

Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium, calcium and

it always comes back.

Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from the

chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading in a

good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about using

this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was really

impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that I

don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement, I can

feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it goes

away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very painful.

Any suggestions??

Annette

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Is that thyroid meds or beta blockers? was teh hawthorn berry syrup

causing the cramping??

Annette

>

> > Hey there,

> > Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> > Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium, calcium

and

> > it always comes back.

>

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hmmmm that is interesting, because even thou I may be going into

remission, I am still quite hyper. I feel like I have tried

everything. I am not sure what symtoms are involved with Graves

Disease, because mine is mostly shown thru blood tests. My heart is

beating rapidly, but with antenalol it has helped. I am losing

weight, but have been really busy lately and so haven't really been

eating so good. My endo is kinda a jerk and really doesn't want to

answer question, just ask them. So I cancelled my last

appointment. Since he wrote that it is getting better, I really

don't want to deal with him. Everyone I know, that has Endo's say

their is cocky. Ugghh, a good doctor would make this much easier to

deal with. He would just want me to get it zapped and I don;t see

any reason for that. He wanted me to get the scan, everything I

read said it isn't necessary, blood test will tell you more,when I

asked him, he said that is what will tell us to do next. I ended up

getting the test and it didn't tell us anything more than what we

already know.... Graves disease, hyperthyroidism. Do many people

feel like doctors would perfer to work with you as hypo and not deal

with the hyper. I am so glad this supplement improved my blood

test, this doc had a hard time admitting that he was very pleasantly

suprised. Anyways. sorry about the babbling hope all is well.

Annette

>

> Hi Annette

> I get bad cramping sometimes in my feet and frequently in my upper

leg when I am hypo. This doesn't happen much any other time, unless

I really overdo it badly. Then anyone could expect a cramp or two...

> Kate

> cramping feet and remission

>

>

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

calcium and

> it always comes back.

> Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from

the

> chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading

in a

> good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about

using

> this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was

really

> impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

> blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that

I

> don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement,

I can

> feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

goes

> away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

painful.

>

> Any suggestions??

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

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the cramping is better since being on meds. i'm on both. not sure what

was responsible, if either, for the cramping.

the hawthorn berry syrup i took for a while instead of the beta blocker.

sorry the post wasn't very clear!

tiggertyme2002 wrote:

> Is that thyroid meds or beta blockers? was teh hawthorn berry syrup

> causing the cramping??

> Annette

>

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Hey Annetter

Are you sure Thymax doesn't 'stimulate' your thyoied. I tried to find something

about it online but all I came up was 'Thyax' which does stimulate thyroid.

See

http://www.sytropin.us/lipo_6_side_side_effects/Side_effects_of_Thymax.html

Kate

cramping feet and remission

Hey there,

Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with Graves

Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium, calcium and

it always comes back.

Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from the

chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading in a

good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about using

this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was really

impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that I

don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement, I can

feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it goes

away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very painful.

Any suggestions??

Annette

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Hi again Annette

I have looked a little further about Thymax. It is claimed that it boosts your

immune system. When you have autoimmune disease such as Graves, it is my

understanding that you don't want to boost your immune system.

Kate

cramping feet and remission

Hey there,

Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with Graves

Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium, calcium and

it always comes back.

Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from the

chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading in a

good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about using

this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was really

impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that I

don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement, I can

feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it goes

away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very painful.

Any suggestions??

Annette

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I've never heard of this before, but I've been having awful cramps in my leg

(just the left one) since I went off PTU...thanks for posting that you have the

same problem. I know it's some sort of muscular thing because a little ibuprofen

will make it go away, but I can't take that much ibuprofen.

Maybe it will go away when I start on PTU again...that would be great.

Nissa

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:00:32 -0500, " Kate " <Fraserk@...> wrote:

> Hey Annetter

> Are you sure Thymax doesn't 'stimulate' your thyoied. I tried to find

> something about it online but all I came up was 'Thyax' which does

> stimulate thyroid.

> See

>

> http://www.sytropin.us/lipo_6_side_side_effects/Side_effects_of_Thymax.html

>

> Kate

> cramping feet and remission

>

>

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium, calcium and

> it always comes back.

> Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from the

> chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading in a

> good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about using

> this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was really

> impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

> blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that I

> don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement, I can

> feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it goes

> away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very painful.

>

> Any suggestions??

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Same here, I normally begin to feel " cramped " and really stiff in my

legs when I am taking too much medicine and have hit the hypo stage.

This particularly happened to me when I was on Tapazole. I haven't

noticed it as much with the PTU.

>

> Hi Annette

> I get bad cramping sometimes in my feet and frequently in my upper

leg when I am hypo. This doesn't happen much any other time, unless

I really overdo it badly. Then anyone could expect a cramp or two...

> Kate

> cramping feet and remission

>

>

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium, calcium

and

> it always comes back.

> Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from

the

> chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading in

a

> good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about

using

> this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was

really

> impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

> blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that I

> don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement,

I can

> feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it goes

> away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

painful.

>

> Any suggestions??

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kate,

I looked at that site and that is not what I am taking. I went and

looked at my bottle and it is thymex. It is a nutritional

supplement made from bovine thymus (or cow thyroid). It actually

has help my Graves to start going into remission. I can tell when I

forget to take it because the first place I can feel it is in my

hands, they feel swollen and ache.

This cramping of my feet and stuff I can't quite figure out and

everyone has a different solution for it. Anyway, sorry I miss

spelled the word, hopefully that will help.

Take care,

Annette

>

> Hey Annetter

> Are you sure Thymax doesn't 'stimulate' your thyoied. I tried to

find something about it online but all I came up was 'Thyax' which

does stimulate thyroid.

> See

>

>

http://www.sytropin.us/lipo_6_side_side_effects/Side_effects_of_Thyma

x.html

>

> Kate

> cramping feet and remission

>

>

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

calcium and

> it always comes back.

> Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from

the

> chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading

in a

> good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about

using

> this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was

really

> impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

> blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that

I

> don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement,

I can

> feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

goes

> away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

painful.

>

> Any suggestions??

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

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So...correct me if I'm wrong...

If you're taking cow thyroid, then you are taking 'additional thyroid' medicine?

The swollen and aching hands could happen if you're hypo - so if you are taking

anti-thyroid medication, when you don't take additional thyroid then the anti

would be too much???Does that make sense to you. It just seems like you are

adding more thyroid when you already naturally have too much...

Kate

cramping feet and remission

>

>

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

calcium and

> it always comes back.

> Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from

the

> chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading

in a

> good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about

using

> this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was

really

> impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

> blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that

I

> don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement,

I can

> feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

goes

> away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

painful.

>

> Any suggestions??

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey Kate,

Did you look up thymex (not thymax). I can feel the difference when

I take it. When I don't my hands feel swollen and crampy. My blood

test showed my T3 and T4 lowering a bit. So it looks like I could

possibly be going into remission.

Let me know if thymex tells you the same thing,

thanks,

Annette

>

> Hi again Annette

> I have looked a little further about Thymax. It is claimed that

it boosts your immune system. When you have autoimmune disease such

as Graves, it is my understanding that you don't want to boost your

immune system.

>

> Kate

> cramping feet and remission

>

>

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

calcium and

> it always comes back.

> Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from

the

> chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading

in a

> good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about

using

> this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was

really

> impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

> blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that

I

> don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement,

I can

> feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

goes

> away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

painful.

>

> Any suggestions??

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I am not taking PKU or any thyroid meds, except a supplement right

now. it gets really bad after I exercise.

Annette

> > Hey Annetter

> > Are you sure Thymax doesn't 'stimulate' your thyoied. I tried

to find

> > something about it online but all I came up was 'Thyax' which

does

> > stimulate thyroid.

> > See

> >

> >

http://www.sytropin.us/lipo_6_side_side_effects/Side_effects_of_Thyma

x.html

> >

> > Kate

> > cramping feet and remission

> >

> >

> > Hey there,

> > Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> > Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

calcium and

> > it always comes back.

> > Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from

the

> > chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading

in a

> > good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about

using

> > this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he

was really

> > impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a

beta

> > blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then

that I

> > don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the

supplement, I can

> > feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

goes

> > away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

painful.

> >

> > Any suggestions??

> >

> > Annette

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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The chiropractor who prescribed this, practices keinsiology and

talked with other docs. I am totally hyper, but boy it sounds like

I have more symptoms of hypo. When I take the thymex, it helps my

hands and any other symptoms I might be experiencing.

weird?

He explained it to me and it made sense, now I don't know, but I do

know that it is working in some positive way on me

I don't have an explaination,

maybe someone else does,

thanks,

Annette

> >

> > Hey Annetter

> > Are you sure Thymax doesn't 'stimulate' your thyoied. I tried

to

> find something about it online but all I came up was 'Thyax'

which

> does stimulate thyroid.

> > See

> >

> >

>

http://www.sytropin.us/lipo_6_side_side_effects/Side_effects_of_Thyma

> x.html

> >

> > Kate

> > cramping feet and remission

> >

> >

> > Hey there,

> > Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs

with

> Graves

> > Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

> calcium and

> > it always comes back.

> > Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement

from

> the

> > chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back

heading

> in a

> > good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time

about

> using

> > this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he

was

> really

> > impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a

beta

> > blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then

that

> I

> > don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the

supplement,

> I can

> > feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

> goes

> > away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

> painful.

> >

> > Any suggestions??

> >

> > Annette

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Annette

Yes I did look into it. In fact I looked into taking something (?) made from

thymus for myself a couple of years ago but decided I didn't want to try it.

But I'm not a doctor. Just do some reading about autoimmune disease and your

immune system and make an informed decision.

Kate

cramping feet and remission

>

>

> Hey there,

> Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs with

Graves

> Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

calcium and

> it always comes back.

> Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement from

the

> chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back heading

in a

> good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time about

using

> this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he was

really

> impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a beta

> blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then that

I

> don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the supplement,

I can

> feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

goes

> away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

painful.

>

> Any suggestions??

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Personally I would research this for myself...

K

cramping feet and remission

> >

> >

> > Hey there,

> > Does anyone ever have bad cramping in their feet and legs

with

> Graves

> > Disease?? I have tried everything, magnisium, potassium,

> calcium and

> > it always comes back.

> > Also just a note, I have been taking a vitamin supplement

from

> the

> > chiropractor called thymax and my blood test came back

heading

> in a

> > good direction. The endo who gave me a really hard time

about

> using

> > this supplement instead of FDA approved meds, had to say he

was

> really

> > impressed. So I hope I am head for remission. I do take a

beta

> > blocker because my heart will go up to 200, but other then

that

> I

> > don't have too many symptoms. When I don't take the

supplement,

> I can

> > feel it in my hands.... they ache. Once I take it again, it

> goes

> > away. but the cramping in my feet are an issue, it is very

> painful.

> >

> > Any suggestions??

> >

> > Annette

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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