Re: Hypo symptoms for DAWN ROSE

April 2, 2001

Hi Dawn,

Palpitations are also listed as a side effect of hypoT. And many recent

studies indicate that hypothyroidism, including subclinical hypothyoidism, is

related to increased heart problems. One of the reasons is that cholesterol

is inversely related to thyroid hormone levels. Hope your doc isn't planning

on keeping you hypo for too long.

April 2, 2001

I just recalled that HCA Vogel, writing in The Nature Doctor mentions that

some people with GD have this problem, where they feel as if they could sleep

forever. He says that this has more to do with the calcium disruptions we

have and says in the case of difficulty waking, needing extra sleep, etc. the

problem is low calcium.

April 2, 2001

Hey Dawn Rose:

Don't you just luv this disease?? I think I'm going through similar

symptoms, All my levels show normal, but the last few weeks, I've had the

headache, eye problems, sleepy, sleepy and lack of concentration and hair

falling out AGAIN ! I was sure I would be severely hypo. But blood work

received today shows normal. Normal for who?? My TSH IS 1.8 (RR .4-5.5),

FT4 .9 (rr .8-1.8) AND FT3 2.9 (RR2.3-4.2)

I'm to the point I don't know if I'm hyper or hypo or what now. I felt

great when all my levels were in the very low normal range and no tsh.

You hang in there .

Retta

Hypo symptoms for DAWN ROSE

Hey up one and all. Just wanted to check. I am feeling SO SO tired all the

time, have a headache quite alot, my eyes are huting again when they hadn't

done for quite a few months there ( " I feel like someones put knitting

needeles in my eyes " has been a phrase that I have used since my teenage

years... that along with big weight fluctuations is making me think GD has

been with me longer than I had realised!)

Anyway, also got joint pains - shooting in my fingers and hands, in my feet.

Starting to get my feelings of unco-ordination back - I lie in bed and

can't work out where my limbs are, what position I am lying in. I am REALLY

DOZEY, a short attention span, no mental energy apart from sometimes when I

feel quite " stand-up " funny! That's in the evenings. It feels like it

takes me all day long to wake up - I finally get there around 11 pm and

don't want to go to sleep again as I won't " be back " for so long!

My blood tests this week showed a FT4 of 6 (RR 10-20)- same as last week.

They didn't take FT3 and TSH was much higher...from memory it was up from

..84 the previous week to 2.58 (RR.35-5.0). I feel so woozey, I nearly have

been knocked over a couple of times and have felt like I might feint - in

quite a nice wooozey way - a couple of times whilst I was out and about.

I am assuming all this is typical HYPO?? Can't put up with this for much

longer, I will be bankrupt, I just keep sleeping.

One question though, why do I still have a racing heart?

Thanks one and all

DAWN ROSE

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April 2, 2001

I'm so glad someone ELSE is confused as to being hyper or hypo. I never did know and I've been dealing with this for 17 years.

Donna

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Subject: RE: Hypo symptoms for DAWN ROSE

Hey Dawn Rose:Don't you just luv this disease?? I think I'm going through similarsymptoms, All my levels show normal, but the last few weeks, I've had theheadache, eye problems, sleepy, sleepy and lack of concentration and hairfalling out AGAIN ! I was sure I would be severely hypo. But blood workreceived today shows normal. Normal for who?? My TSH IS 1.8 (RR .4-5.5),FT4 .9 (rr .8-1.8) AND FT3 2.9 (RR2.3-4.2)I'm to the point I don't know if I'm hyper or hypo or what now. I feltgreat when all my levels were in the very low normal range and no tsh.You hang in there .Retta-----Original Message-----From: dawn rose [mailto:getdawnrose@...]Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 1:16 AMhyperthyroidism Subject: Hypo symptoms for DAWN ROSEHey up one and all. Just wanted to check. I am feeling SO SO tired all thetime, have a headache quite alot, my eyes are huting again when they hadn'tdone for quite a few months there ("I feel like someones put knittingneedeles in my eyes" has been a phrase that I have used since my teenageyears... that along with big weight fluctuations is making me think GD hasbeen with me longer than I had realised!)Anyway, also got joint pains - shooting in my fingers and hands, in my feet. Starting to get my feelings of unco-ordination back - I lie in bed andcan't work out where my limbs are, what position I am lying in. I am REALLYDOZEY, a short attention span, no mental energy apart from sometimes when Ifeel quite "stand-up" funny! That's in the evenings. It feels like ittakes me all day long to wake up - I finally get there around 11 pm anddon't want to go to sleep again as I won't "be back" for so long!My blood tests this week showed a FT4 of 6 (RR 10-20)- same as last week.They didn't take FT3 and TSH was much higher...from memory it was up from.84 the previous week to 2.58 (RR.35-5.0). I feel so woozey, I nearly havebeen knocked over a couple of times and have felt like I might feint - inquite a nice wooozey way - a couple of times whilst I was out and about.I am assuming all this is typical HYPO?? Can't put up with this for muchlonger, I will be bankrupt, I just keep sleeping.One question though, why do I still have a racing heart?Thanks one and allDAWN ROSE_________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

April 2, 2001

Hi, Retta,

I just read your note and Dawn Rose's note....I could have written them!!!

I called my Dr. this AM. I've had a headache since last Thursday... I've

heard the " morning birds " a couple of time this week.. my hair is falling

out again....I've gained 15 lbs. this year...

My Dr says my levels are " high-normal " ... and that all is well... HUH????

<G>.....

ok..it could be worse...<G> I was diagnosed with Graves about five years ago

and it has been worse. Fight on.

Best wishes to you both....

Fran

Hypo symptoms for DAWN ROSE

>

>Hey up one and all. Just wanted to check. I am feeling SO SO tired all the

>time, have a headache quite alot, my eyes are huting again when they hadn't

>done for quite a few months there ( " I feel like someones put knitting

>needeles in my eyes " has been a phrase that I have used since my teenage

>years... that along with big weight fluctuations is making me think GD has

>been with me longer than I had realised!)

>

>Anyway, also got joint pains - shooting in my fingers and hands, in my

feet.

> Starting to get my feelings of unco-ordination back - I lie in bed and

>can't work out where my limbs are, what position I am lying in. I am

REALLY

>DOZEY, a short attention span, no mental energy apart from sometimes when I

>feel quite " stand-up " funny! That's in the evenings. It feels like it

>takes me all day long to wake up - I finally get there around 11 pm and

>don't want to go to sleep again as I won't " be back " for so long!

>

>My blood tests this week showed a FT4 of 6 (RR 10-20)- same as last week.

>They didn't take FT3 and TSH was much higher...from memory it was up from

>.84 the previous week to 2.58 (RR.35-5.0). I feel so woozey, I nearly

have

>been knocked over a couple of times and have felt like I might feint - in

>quite a nice wooozey way - a couple of times whilst I was out and about.

>

>I am assuming all this is typical HYPO?? Can't put up with this for much

>longer, I will be bankrupt, I just keep sleeping.

>One question though, why do I still have a racing heart?

>Thanks one and all

>DAWN ROSE

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>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

>

April 2, 2001

My levels are in the normal range too and yet I could sleep forever if

they would just let me! My eyeballs ache and no matter how I diet I

can't lose that hyperT poundage I put on. I've been watching my hair

carefully in case it, too, starts falling out AGAIN.

Is there any other desease that shows normal levels and still leaves you

with unrelenting symptoms???? It's like we have the antibodies from

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April 2, 2001

This is truly an amazing site! It helps so much to have other people who

are feeling the same thing, confirming that THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!

I just DRAGGED myself out of bed at noon, I could have stayed there and

stayed there.

The Calcium thing is also very interesting. I am craving vanilla ice cream

all the time. I never liked ice cream before in my life, but this last few

weeks I just can't stop myself having it; seasonally it doesn't make sense

either - it's autumn in Sydney! Considering I am trying so hard to loose

the weight that's piled on - it certainly doesn't make sense!

Think I will start supplementing calcium. I know magnesium goes along with

it and one or the other of them helps with cramping and eye twitching which

I have been getting too.

I really do not feel as clever as normal - when I was hyper, all this

information lit me up with hope and fell into place really easily; now I

can't keep more than two concepts going at once - tricky with endocrinology

and all those double negatives, web-like connections, twists and turns!

Grateful for the help here.

Cheers everyone

DAWN ROSE

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>Reply-hyperthyroidism

>hyperthyroidism

>Subject: Re: Hypo symptoms for DAWN ROSE

>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:16:36 EDT

>

>I just recalled that HCA Vogel, writing in The Nature Doctor mentions that

>some people with GD have this problem, where they feel as if they could

>sleep

>forever. He says that this has more to do with the calcium disruptions we

>have and says in the case of difficulty waking, needing extra sleep, etc.

>the

>problem is low calcium.

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April 3, 2001

Dawn,

When I went hypo for a while it was terrible.....my bones and joints ached

so bad one morning I rolled out of bed. Couldn't wait to take aspirin. My

hands hurt so that I could barely used the mouse at work. My ears would

turn red and itch, my chest would have rashes and I was very lethargic.

Memory was terrible. Also I was lightheaded hypo and hyper. Sounds like

you also have thyroid eye disease (TED). I do too. When I went hypo for a

while my eyelids retracted a little and my eyes hurt, sensitive to light,

and hurt to move the eyeballs around.

I've been off PTU for several months now but my right eyelid is swollen.

Also one of the side affects of TED. According to you lab results it

doesn't look like you're hypo but the levels may not be right for you. Did

you tell the doc about the symptoms? The headache could be from your eyes.

Keep track of your thyroid levels - it helps to determine at what level you

feel better.

Hope you're feeling better soon, we have no choice but to be patient, it

takes time. We all get tired of that term but it's true. It just seems to

take so long to recover, especially when we're tired. Take care, Mona