Guest guest Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 Elaine, I went to the new doctor..he didn't push RAI BUT claimed eating seafood wouldn't mess with my lab results or red dye. He's kind of out there. I'd ask a question and it took 10 minutes to answer. Kimber told me when we got out of there that she didn't like him and felt like telling him to shut up..of course I got on to her..but geez I felt like it to but didn't tell her of course. He went on telling that once you have one autoimmune disease your more apt to get a 2nd or 3rd which you know I have a fear of doing so now I'm worrying again. Have you heard of Thyrodex . On the altmed list a woman with Grave's was cured by it.. just wondering what you thought. Thanks and will post labs when I get them. He did TSI but didn't know where to get the blocking TSH done..kind of strange.. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Hi Kim, Kimber sounds pretty wise. You might want to trust her instinct. I can't remember what all is in Thyrodex, but it seems that it has iodine. Can you get a list of the ingredients in it? Take care, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Elaine, I couldn't believe his saying that seafood or red dye wouldn't hurt my test results. I told him I was eating it 3 or 4 times a week and could feel my heart rate go up after shrimp..what an idiot.. Here is about Thyrodex..a lady named Judy on the alt list told me about it. She's in remission...Have you heard of the raw or live food diet? I'm going to do it (no raw eggs or meat as I think I'd get sick from that)..have you heard of it helping anyone with Graves? A naturpath that is a licensed pharmacist said I have a virus and parasites that caused the Grave's..what do you think of that? thanks! Kim Formula Name: Thyrodex > > > > > Clinical Applications: Hyperthyroidism. Hyperthyroidism with low-grade > > fever, tachycardia (90 to 120 hearbeats per minute), tremors of the tongue > > and fingers, enlarged thyroid glands, unilateral or bilateral swollen and > > bulging eyes. Hyperthyroidism with palpitations or tachycardia, fatigue, > > weight loss, fidgeting, irritability, bad temper, aversion to heat, > > perspiration, hunger and increased appetite, increased blood pressure, > etc. > > > > Western Actions: Lowers the level of thyroid hormone circulating in the > > blood. Reduces enlargement of the thyroid gland. Treats the unwated > > " sympathetic excess " signs and symptoms of hyperthyroidism. > > > > Dosage: Take 3 to 4 capsules three times daily. Patients with > > hyperthyroidism (other than throtoxicosis) should notice dramtic > improvement > > within one to one-and-a-half months of herbal treatment. Most symptoms > > should completely subside within three to six months of treatment. > > Protrusion of the eye(s) may persist despite herbal treatment. > > > > Explanation: According to Traditional Chinese Medicine, hyperthyroidism is > a > > combination of Qi and Yin deficiencies, Liver fire rising, and phlegm > > stagnation. The fundamental causes are Qi and Yin deficiencies while the > > symptoms simultaneously. Tortoise shell nourishes Yin and resolves hard > > lumps. Scrophularia and anemarrhena have three important functions: > > replenishing the vital essence, clearing heat and resolving hard lumps in > > the body. Gardenia and prunella clear heat and purge Liver fire. They > reduce > > the " sympathetic excess " signs and symptoms commonly associated with > > hyperthyroidism, such as increased heart rate, increased blood pressure, > > tremor, etc. Fritillaria resolves phlegm and further assists prunella to > > disperse lumps and hardenings. Clinically, fritillaria and oyster shell > are > > commonly used to treat goiter. Cyathula stimulates blood circulation and > > enhances the overall effectivenss of the formula. Polygala calms the > Spirit > > (Shen) and relieves nervousness and anxiety. Licorice harmonizes all the > > herbs of the formula. Siler and astragalus, two principle herbs in the > > formula Yu Ping Feg San (Jade Windscreen Powder), have excellent effects > to > > strengthen Defensive (Wei) Qi and stop perspiration. > > > > Supplement Formulas: For anxiety and nervousness, add Calm or Calm (ES). > For > > dysmenorrhea, use Mense-Ease. For insomnia, add Schisandra ZZZ. For > > hypertension, use Gastrodia Complex or Gentiana Complex. Combine with > > Resolve (AI) for enlarged thyroid. > > > > Nutrition: Consume plenty of the following foods: broccoli, brussels > > sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, mustard greens, peaches, pears, > > soybeans, spinach, and turnips. These foods may help to suppress thyroid > > hormone production. Short-term consumption of foods rich in iodine will > > provide temporary relief of hyperthyroidism due to a negative feedback > > mechanism. Long-term consumption, however, is not recommended because > foods > > rich in iodine will facilitate production of thyroid hormone. Foods rich > in > > iodine include iodized salt, kelp and sargassum. > > > > Lifestyle: Eliminate all stimulants, such as cigarette smoking, secon-hand > > smoke, and caffeine from tea, coffee or soft drinks. Avoid vigorous > > exercise, hot tubs and saunas. Advise the patients to engage in relaxing > > exercises, such as walking, Qi Gong, or Tai Chi Chuan. > > > > Clinical: Practitioners should suspect hyperthyroidism when the following > > manifestations are present: 1. Young adults (especially female) who have a > > bad temper, hunger with excessive appetite, palpitation and profuse > > perspiration. 2. Young adults (especially female) who are fidgety and > > irritable, have early menses with a light flow, amenorrhea, and > significant > > weight loss. 3. Young adult with sudden onset of difficulty with physical > > movement, numbness of legs, or possilbe collapse of leg muscles while > > walking. > > > > Caution: This formula is contraindicated during pregnancy or nursing. > > Patients with thyrotoxicosis or thyroid storm require emergency medical > > treatment. Warning signs and symptoms of thyroid storm or thyrotoxicosis > > include high fever, tachycardia, fidgeting, irritability, nausea, > vomiting, > > obvious weight loss, profuse perspiration, delirium, and possible loss of > > unconsciousness. > > > > Common Ingredients: Scrophularia, Anemarrhena, Gardenia, Prunella, > Tortoise > > Shell, Cyathula, Oyseter Shell, Fritillaria, Polygala, Astragalus, Siler, > > Licorice > > > > Pharmaceutical Ingredients: Scrophulariae Ningpoensis, Radix, Anemarrhenae > > Asphodeloidis, Rhizoma, Gradeniae Jasminoidis, Fructus, Prunellae > Vlugaris, > > Spica, Amydae Sinensis, Carapax, Cyathulae Officinalis, Radix, Ostreae, > > Concha, Fritillariae Thunbergii, Bulbus, Polygalae Tenuifoliae, Radix, > > Astragalus Membranacei, Radix, Ledebouriellae Divaricatae, Radix, > > Glycyrrhizae Uralensis, Radix > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kim, > Kimber sounds pretty wise. You might want to trust her instinct. I can't > remember what all is in Thyrodex, but it seems that it has iodine. Can you > get a > list of the ingredients in it? Take care, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Hi Kim, A whole food diet, which is what I think you mean, is an excellent idea and widely recommended for GD. In a whole food diet, food is cooked but not processed or pre-packaged. Most everyone, whether they have GD or not, will show evidence of a past viral infection. Many viruses remain with us for life, but they remain in a latent or inactive form for the most part. Viruses are known triggers of GD but it's active infection that triggers the immune response. Several bacteria are known to trigger GD, particularly Campylobacter jejunii. But these bacteria do not thrive in the body after the initial infection. We have lots of different bacteria in our bodies that are needed for digestion, shedding toxins, etc. If you did have an overgrowth and a particular organism was predominant you'd have symptoms of infection. That said, I'm all for detoxification programs primarily for removing mucus and other stagnant materials. It's sure worth a try. Best, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Elaine, what did you think of the Thyrodex? It's a raw food diet he recommened..raw fruits, veggies and nuts. It's also calling Live food or Living food..it makes alot of since.. the food still has enzymes etc. There are Live or Raw food restaurants..lots of movie stars do it..like Demi , there's groups..it's really popular.. Thanks! Kim Hi Kim, A whole food diet, which is what I think you mean, is an excellent idea and widely recommended for GD. In a whole food diet, food is cooked but not processed or pre-packaged. Most everyone, whether they have GD or not, will show evidence of a past viral infection. Many viruses remain with us for life, but they remain in a latent or inactive form for the most part. Viruses are known triggers of GD but it's active infection that triggers the immune response. Several bacteria are known to trigger GD, particularly Campylobacter jejunii. But these bacteria do not thrive in the body after the initial infection. We have lots of different bacteria in our bodies that are needed for digestion, shedding toxins, etc. If you did have an overgrowth and a particular organism was predominant you'd have symptoms of infection. That said, I'm all for detoxification programs primarily for removing mucus and other stagnant materials. It's sure worth a try. Best, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 Hi Kim, It sounds like it's worth trying. Let us know what results you notice, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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