Progress - Added Iron, Potassium - new boost

March 3, 2001

Well Brett, I'd say you're making fantastic progress. 's supplement

suggestions have helped me tremendously too. As you can see by my previous

posts, I've had a set back of my own, but I CAN definitely tell you that it's

been thanks to 's supplements and not to my doctor that many health problems

I was having have been cleared up. The thyroid hormone I was taking had no

effect on them whatsoever, but the supps made a huge difference, so hang in

there.

You seem to be grasping this all very quickly. Can't wait 'til the other board

is back up and running. You'll be a big inspiration to those folks as I think

many of them are not aware that this list existed before the website so are

probably waiting in limbo to hear what's going on.

Keep up the great work, and keep the faith!

Penny

March 3, 2001

Some of you may remember last week I posted about what fantastic progress I

am making following 's suggestions for HyperT. S'funny, but the day

after my post I took a big step back and the next few days I felt pretty

bad - main symptoms were muscle tremors , low energy, high heart rate (90+)

and intolerance to heat. I would take mag/cal throughout the day in the

1:1 ratio - the symptoms I mention are indicative of deficiency in these -

but got little if any relief. I couldn't figure it out - I was also adding

Vit D since it is symbiotic with mag/cal - still no relief.

I was so discouraged I refilled my Tapazole prescription figuring the most

important thing is relief from the symptoms. I started taking 30mg

yesterday for the first time in about 6 weeks.

Also last night I added 18mg Iron, about 1000mg Potassium, 100mg Niacin

besides my usual copper, B, D, A, Paba, Biotin, B1, B2, trace minerals - and

this morning I awoke with no tremors and feeling great! (note that I do NOT

attribute this to re-starting the Tapazole - it usually does not provide

relief for me for about 10-15 days.)

I also switched to the SOLARAY cal/mag 1000mg in a 1:1 ratio - perhaps my

body is assimilating this better than the MezoTrace brand I had before? I

take the 6 capsules and pour the powder into the blender with some orange

juice - its a little bit easier than taking so many capsules all day! Plus

the natural calcium in the orange juice can't hurt!

So far 's ideas seem to be working for me - I had forgot the part about

starting to add iron once the benefits of taking copper, etc have declined,

and also his advice about trying Potassium - adding these last night has

maybe taken me to the next level - but, of course, this is a dynamic process

so only time will tell.

I have to remember to read 's stuff over and over and over as so far he

has been right on.

Bret

March 5, 2001

Hi Retta,

Glad to hear that you're doing so well. Generally muscle cramps indicate

magnesium deficiency and some people have had to increase mag to the point

where they are taking 3 times as much mag as cal. Also I think the potassium

helps the mag work better, so perhaps the potassium will be an improvement. I

believe that potassium supplements are limited by law to less than 100 mgs. I

don't know the full story, but I believe that excess potassium (probably

combined with a calcium and/or magnesium deficiency) can cause severe

problems. That is why I would urge anyone taking potassium to try to get it

mostly from foods and take a maximum of 1200 mgs of potassium a day. More

might be ok, but let's play it safe until we know for sure. I wouldn't go for

an extended time taking potassium without cal/mag. Also, you may be at the

point where you can use iron. Try 18-25 mgs and see what happens. Pay

attention to your heart rate, your energy level, and your body temperature

(see if you feel warmer).

In a message dated 3/5/2001 10:18:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

laurettamcwilliams@... writes:

<< The only problem I'm having is with the Calcium/Magnesium (stopped taking)

no matter what ratio I tried I would get muscle cramps. I started taking

potassium yesterday to see if this would help. Has anyone found more than 99

mcg's in a supplement? Taking 10 pills of potassium seems like a lot.(oh

well, what's a few more as long as they get the job done. LOL.) Do you

think I should take potassium

by its self for a few days and then try adding CAL/MAG back. Maybe I need

to add iron. >>

March 5, 2001

Hi Donna,

There are 1,000 micrograms (mcg) in a milligram (mg) and 1,000 mg in one Gram.

March 5, 2001

Bret & Everyone:

Bret I'm so glad you have found the next step and are doing good again.

's list is working for me also. I'm currently taking 6 mg copper, b

complex, trace minerals, paba, biotin, boron. My goiter has deceased in

size also over the last 5 weeks since I started the supplement list, besides

feeling 100% better. I decrease my TAP a couple of weeks ago also.

The only problem I'm having is with the Calcium/Magnesium (stopped taking)

no matter what ratio I tried I would get muscle cramps. I started taking

potassium yesterday to see if this would help. Has anyone found more than 99

mcg's in a supplement? Taking 10 pills of potassium seems like a lot.(oh

well, what's a few more as long as they get the job done. LOL.) Do you

think I should take potassium

by its self for a few days and then try adding CAL/MAG back. Maybe I need

to add iron. I feel almost like I have the flu today, low energy.

But for everybody, 's list is working, despite my own personal set back

with the Cal/mag and I saw improvement in the way I felt physically and

emotionally almost immediately after starting copper. Three weeks after

starting list, blood levels in normal range for the first time ever since

starting TAP in August of 2000!!

Anyone out there trying to decide whether or not to try the supplements, I

can tell you it is worth it!!

and everyone Thanks again for being there for me.

Retta

Progress - Added Iron, Potassium - new boost

Some of you may remember last week I posted about what fantastic progress I

am making following 's suggestions for HyperT. S'funny, but the day

after my post I took a big step back and the next few days I felt pretty

bad - main symptoms were muscle tremors , low energy, high heart rate (90+)

and intolerance to heat. I would take mag/cal throughout the day in the

1:1 ratio - the symptoms I mention are indicative of deficiency in these -

but got little if any relief. I couldn't figure it out - I was also adding

Vit D since it is symbiotic with mag/cal - still no relief.

I was so discouraged I refilled my Tapazole prescription figuring the most

important thing is relief from the symptoms. I started taking 30mg

yesterday for the first time in about 6 weeks.

Also last night I added 18mg Iron, about 1000mg Potassium, 100mg Niacin

besides my usual copper, B, D, A, Paba, Biotin, B1, B2, trace minerals - and

this morning I awoke with no tremors and feeling great! (note that I do NOT

attribute this to re-starting the Tapazole - it usually does not provide

relief for me for about 10-15 days.)

I also switched to the SOLARAY cal/mag 1000mg in a 1:1 ratio - perhaps my

body is assimilating this better than the MezoTrace brand I had before? I

take the 6 capsules and pour the powder into the blender with some orange

juice - its a little bit easier than taking so many capsules all day! Plus

the natural calcium in the orange juice can't hurt!

So far 's ideas seem to be working for me - I had forgot the part about

starting to add iron once the benefits of taking copper, etc have declined,

and also his advice about trying Potassium - adding these last night has

maybe taken me to the next level - but, of course, this is a dynamic process

so only time will tell.

I have to remember to read 's stuff over and over and over as so far he

has been right on.

Bret

March 5, 2001

Ya know, I was just looking at these nutritionals again. Call me stupid, but mgs are what they state on the can. That can't be the same as mcgs, right? So, how many mcgs in an mg?!! LOL! Help!

Donna

RE: Progress - Added Iron, Potassium - new boost

Bret & Everyone:Bret I'm so glad you have found the next step and are doing good again.'s list is working for me also. I'm currently taking 6 mg copper, bcomplex, trace minerals, paba, biotin, boron. My goiter has deceased insize also over the last 5 weeks since I started the supplement list, besidesfeeling 100% better. I decrease my TAP a couple of weeks ago also.The only problem I'm having is with the Calcium/Magnesium (stopped taking)no matter what ratio I tried I would get muscle cramps. I started takingpotassium yesterday to see if this would help. Has anyone found more than 99mcg's in a supplement? Taking 10 pills of potassium seems like a lot.(ohwell, what's a few more as long as they get the job done. LOL.) Do youthink I should take potassiumby its self for a few days and then try adding CAL/MAG back. Maybe I needto add iron. I feel almost like I have the flu today, low energy.But for everybody, 's list is working, despite my own personal set backwith the Cal/mag and I saw improvement in the way I felt physically andemotionally almost immediately after starting copper. Three weeks afterstarting list, blood levels in normal range for the first time ever sincestarting TAP in August of 2000!!Anyone out there trying to decide whether or not to try the supplements, Ican tell you it is worth it!! and everyone Thanks again for being there for me.Retta-----Original Message-----From: BLH [mailto:rickmar@...]Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:43 PMhyperthyroidism Subject: Progress - Added Iron, Potassium - new boostSome of you may remember last week I posted about what fantastic progress Iam making following 's suggestions for HyperT. S'funny, but the dayafter my post I took a big step back and the next few days I felt prettybad - main symptoms were muscle tremors , low energy, high heart rate (90+)and intolerance to heat. I would take mag/cal throughout the day in the1:1 ratio - the symptoms I mention are indicative of deficiency in these -but got little if any relief. I couldn't figure it out - I was also addingVit D since it is symbiotic with mag/cal - still no relief.I was so discouraged I refilled my Tapazole prescription figuring the mostimportant thing is relief from the symptoms. I started taking 30mgyesterday for the first time in about 6 weeks.Also last night I added 18mg Iron, about 1000mg Potassium, 100mg Niacinbesides my usual copper, B, D, A, Paba, Biotin, B1, B2, trace minerals - andthis morning I awoke with no tremors and feeling great! (note that I do NOTattribute this to re-starting the Tapazole - it usually does not providerelief for me for about 10-15 days.)I also switched to the SOLARAY cal/mag 1000mg in a 1:1 ratio - perhaps mybody is assimilating this better than the MezoTrace brand I had before? Itake the 6 capsules and pour the powder into the blender with some orangejuice - its a little bit easier than taking so many capsules all day! Plusthe natural calcium in the orange juice can't hurt!So far 's ideas seem to be working for me - I had forgot the part aboutstarting to add iron once the benefits of taking copper, etc have declined,and also his advice about trying Potassium - adding these last night hasmaybe taken me to the next level - but, of course, this is a dynamic processso only time will tell.I have to remember to read 's stuff over and over and over as so far hehas been right on.Bret

March 5, 2001

Got it. Thank you. And thank you for not calling me, "stupid." LOL! On with my quest for information.

Donna

Re: Progress - Added Iron, Potassium - new boost

Hi Donna,There are 1,000 micrograms (mcg) in a milligram (mg) and 1,000 mg in one Gram.

March 7, 2001

& Everybody:

I can't believe I'm so stupid sometimes. Have been taking the

Calcium/Magnesium and potassium along with other supplements on list and

have had muscle cramps, severe, off and on when I take calcium/Magnesium. I

have changed the amounts/ratios from very small to very large with no

change.

Well I finally figured it out. Sunday and Monday took Calcium/Mag/potassium

with no cramps, Tuesday by afternoon had minor cramps, but by that evening

muscle cramps and tightness so bad could not sleep, had trouble swallowing

and breathing, slow pounding heart. Over all felt like I could be in serious

trouble. Finally dawned on me while I was pacing the floor around mid-night

that I had forgotten to take the trace minerals and thought well, what the

heck I'll give it a try. I was completely astounded ! within 5 minutes of

taking one teaspoon, neck muscles started to relax, swallowing and breathing

became easier. By 15 minutes my whole body was relaxed and not one muscle

cramp, no pounding heart and was asleep by 12:30.

Obviously some element in the Trace minerals is very important for my body

in relationship to the Calcium/Magnesium. Has anyone else had anything

similar happen to them ??

Retta

Re: Progress - Added Iron, Potassium - new

boost

Hi Retta,

Glad to hear that you're doing so well. Generally muscle cramps indicate

magnesium deficiency and some people have had to increase mag to the point

where they are taking 3 times as much mag as cal. Also I think the potassium

helps the mag work better, so perhaps the potassium will be an improvement.

I

believe that potassium supplements are limited by law to less than 100 mgs.

I

don't know the full story, but I believe that excess potassium (probably

combined with a calcium and/or magnesium deficiency) can cause severe

problems. That is why I would urge anyone taking potassium to try to get it

mostly from foods and take a maximum of 1200 mgs of potassium a day. More

might be ok, but let's play it safe until we know for sure. I wouldn't go

for

an extended time taking potassium without cal/mag. Also, you may be at the

point where you can use iron. Try 18-25 mgs and see what happens. Pay

attention to your heart rate, your energy level, and your body temperature

(see if you feel warmer).

In a message dated 3/5/2001 10:18:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

laurettamcwilliams@... writes:

<< The only problem I'm having is with the Calcium/Magnesium (stopped

taking)

no matter what ratio I tried I would get muscle cramps. I started taking

potassium yesterday to see if this would help. Has anyone found more than

99

mcg's in a supplement? Taking 10 pills of potassium seems like a lot.(oh

well, what's a few more as long as they get the job done. LOL.) Do you

think I should take potassium

by its self for a few days and then try adding CAL/MAG back. Maybe I need

to add iron. >>

March 8, 2001

Hi Retta,

Very interesting! I haven't had this experience with trace minerals

interacting with Ca/Mg/K, but have had it make other nutrients suddenly

" work. " I would think that you would need more Mag if your muscles were

cramping. Do you have an analysis of your trace mineral supplement? Maybe

it's high in some major mineral like Mag? If it is some trace element, then

it would be really helpful to find which one or ones it is.

In a message dated 3/7/01 8:17:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,

laurettamcwilliams@... writes:

<< can't believe I'm so stupid sometimes. Have been taking the