Re: A newbie here....stress levels

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb,

Hyperthyroid can really mess with your emotions and feeling bad is pretty

normal.Being stressed dose not help it's better to stay calm always no matter

what.

I take my cal/mag and copper right before bed with some herb tea for

sleep.This really helped me sleep early on. I still only sleep three or four

hours a night but at least I got some sleep. There were times that I would

be awake for days without sleep.

Good Luck

Raven

NashDLP@... wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> How wonderful to find this group! I hope all of you are doing well.

> I have just been diagnosed with hyperT, and I'm a little freaked out,

> because I watched a roommate struggle with the same condition a few

> years ago. My best friend found 's website a couple of days ago,

> and she copied all the supplement info for me. I've bought a few

> (copper, cal/mag, biotin, niacin), but I really don't know what I'm

> doing yet. Anyway, I'd love to hear any stories of supplement use as

> treatment.

> Also, I currently have a job waiting tables, and we are very short-

> staffed, which can be pretty stressful, as it was tonight. I didn't

> handle the stress as well as usual- was forgetful, irritable, teary.

> Is that a fairly common experience? It's been so frustrating - one

> day, I have lots of energy and buzz around the restaurant, then the

> next two days I'm somewhat lethargic. Is it simply annoying or

> actually harmful for me to be working in a stressful job with this

> condition?

> Well, sorry for writing a novel - I'd appreciate any input.

>

> Thanks!

> Deb

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All!

This is somewhat off topic, but I could use some advice from the group.

I recently started with a new dentist (I had been seeing the previous one since teenage years), who took X-rays and said I need some work. Nothing major, but some semi-major stuff. For some reason, I was terrified and bolted from the chair after he examined the X-rays. I used to be able to sit still for dental work--I guess I'm getting more frightened as I get older.

I made another appointment, but would like to take some anti-anxiety meds, at least for that day, so I can get through it. I mentioned this to one doc, who said maybe my thyroid is acting up again. (It's not--I'm just becoming more fearful the older I get--isn't that backwards from the way it should be?)

Does anyone have any suggestions of what to do, or what to take? I can get a prescription from another doc, but I don't usually respond well to medication (I took a Valium after my father died, and it made me feel TERRIBLE). I would like to decrease anxiety without depressing my nervous system.

Thanks in advance for any info.

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

I didn't

> handle the stress as well as usual- was forgetful, irritable,

teary.

> Is that a fairly common experience

Hi Deb: I'd have to say " Yes! " Before my antithyroid meds kicked

in, I noticed stress increased my irritability, anxiousness, ability

to concentrate. I didn't suffer forgetfulness so much as inability

to focus or concentrate. I think the sleeplessness that I suffered

also affected my ability to concentrate. The antithyroid meds

helped. Just recently, my Endo decreed that I " appear to be going

into remission " . He has been gradually reducing my meds and my

bloodwork seems to be holding ok. I started supplementing as soon as

I was diagnosed and I really think that it made a difference. I

supplement with copper, B-complex, calcium, magnesium, potassium and

evening primrose oil.

Good luck and know that I sympathize,

[Guest guest]

, I was right there with you. My focus used to be just about nil most of the day. I couldn't concentrate long enough to finish my sentence. As a matter of fact, my WMU students who worked for me got so used to finishing my sentences for me that it was almost comical! My inability to sleep increased my irritability and stress, thereby increasing the frequency of migraine headaches. Vicious circle. All that's stopped now and other serious threats have been reversed, as well. Don't let anyone ever tell you that supplements don't work. It's just a matter of what supplements are best to take and which have the most consistent quality. I've learned a lot since I got sick.

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

I didn't > handle the stress as well as usual- was forgetful, irritable, teary. > Is that a fairly common experienceHi Deb: I'd have to say "Yes!" Before my antithyroid meds kicked in, I noticed stress increased my irritability, anxiousness, ability to concentrate. I didn't suffer forgetfulness so much as inability to focus or concentrate. I think the sleeplessness that I suffered also affected my ability to concentrate. The antithyroid meds helped. Just recently, my Endo decreed that I "appear to be going into remission". He has been gradually reducing my meds and my bloodwork seems to be holding ok. I started supplementing as soon as I was diagnosed and I really think that it made a difference. I supplement with copper, B-complex, calcium, magnesium, potassium and evening primrose oil.Good luck and know that I sympathize,

[Guest guest]

Balance, balance, balance, Ant Joan. I think that may even be where they got the term "unbalanced," from someone who acquires irrational fears after appearing fairly normal. We know that B vitamins are to blame for those fears when they're unbalanced.

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

Hi All! This is somewhat off topic, but I could use some advice from the group. I recently started with a new dentist (I had been seeing the previous one since teenage years), who took X-rays and said I need some work. Nothing major, but some semi-major stuff. For some reason, I was terrified and bolted from the chair after he examined the X-rays. I used to be able to sit still for dental work--I guess I'm getting more frightened as I get older. I made another appointment, but would like to take some anti-anxiety meds, at least for that day, so I can get through it. I mentioned this to one doc, who said maybe my thyroid is acting up again. (It's not--I'm just becoming more fearful the older I get--isn't that backwards from the way it should be?) Does anyone have any suggestions of what to do, or what to take? I can get a prescription from another doc, but I don't usually respond well to medication (I took a Valium after my father died, and it made me feel TERRIBLE). I would like to decrease anxiety without depressing my nervous system. Thanks in advance for any info. AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Hi AntJoan,

A newbie here, but maybe some help. Have you ever taken Valerian? Also, I have been undergoing hypnosis for anxiety, and boy, great stuff!

Arlene in CA

Re: A newbie here....stress levelsHi All! This is somewhat off topic, but I could use some advice from the group. I recently started with a new dentist (I had been seeing the previous one since teenage years), who took X-rays and said I need some work. Nothing major, but some semi-major stuff. For some reason, I was terrified and bolted from the chair after he examined the X-rays. I used to be able to sit still for dental work--I guess I'm getting more frightened as I get older. I made another appointment, but would like to take some anti-anxiety meds, at least for that day, so I can get through it. I mentioned this to one doc, who said maybe my thyroid is acting up again. (It's not--I'm just becoming more fearful the older I get--isn't that backwards from the way it should be?) Does anyone have any suggestions of what to do, or what to take? I can get a prescription from another doc, but I don't usually respond well to medication (I took a Valium after my father died, and it made me feel TERRIBLE). I would like to decrease anxiety without depressing my nervous system. Thanks in advance for any info. AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Hi Ant Joan

I fully sympathize with you. I was at the dentist yesterday and

twice today. I have a suggestion for you. Have your dentist

prescribe some sub-lingual ativan for you. I take it before my appt

and it makes a world of difference. It is specifically for anxiety

rather than a depressant.

Kate

AntJoan@... wrote:

Hi All!

This is somewhat off topic,

but I could use some advice from the group.

I recently started with a

new dentist (I had been seeing the previous one

since teenage years), who

took X-rays and said I need some work. Nothing

major, but some semi-major

stuff. For some reason, I was terrified and

bolted from the chair after

he examined the X-rays. I used to be able to sit

still for dental work--I

guess I'm getting more frightened as I get older.

I made another appointment,

but would like to take some anti-anxiety meds, at

least for that day, so I

can get through it. I mentioned this to one doc,

who said maybe my thyroid

is acting up again. (It's not--I'm just becoming

more fearful the older I

get--isn't that backwards from the way it should be?)

Does anyone have any suggestions

of what to do, or what to take? I can get a

prescription from another

doc, but I don't usually respond well to medication

(I took a Valium after my

father died, and it made me feel TERRIBLE). I

would like to decrease anxiety

without depressing my nervous system.

Thanks in advance for any

info.

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/18/01 7:18:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Fraserk@... writes:

some sub-lingual ativan

Dear Kate,

What is ativan--a regular anti-anxiety medication? How much do you take, and how much before the appointment do you have to take it (I have to go there after work, as he has no weekend hours in the summer).

Thanks, AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Dear Arlene,

I have Valerian, but haven't really tried it--not much faith in it, I guess.

Now that you've suggested it, I'll give it a try soon, before I have to actually go to the appointment, and see if it helps me calm down.

Thanks,

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Hi Ant Joan,

Have you ever used nitrous oxide? it makes me oblivious to what's going on.

wonderful stuff with no lingering after-effects. I too have bolted from

dentist chairs.

[Guest guest]

Hi again

I take .5 mg about 1/2 hour before getting into the chair. It

doesn't seem to have much effect on me until I realize I've handled whatever

it is. It is also known as lorazepam.

K

AntJoan@... wrote:

In a message

dated 7/18/01 7:18:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Fraserk@... writes:

some

sub-lingual ativan

Dear Kate,

What is ativan--a regular

anti-anxiety medication? How much do you take, and

how much before the appointment

do you have to take it (I have to go there

after work, as he has no

weekend hours in the summer).

Thanks,

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/19/01 8:38:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, daisyelaine@... writes:

Have you ever used nitrous oxide?

I guess that's laughing gas, right? My husband swears by it. I've always been afraid of it--if your brain is deprived of oxygen, I'm afraid of side effects, or brain damage. I guess the stuff is safe, though. Does anyone know how it works, and how safe it is?

Thanks, AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Great idea. I remember thinking 'This is hurting but I don't care... " .

Depends on whether or not your dentist uses it.

K

daisyelaine@... wrote:

> Hi Ant Joan,

> Have you ever used nitrous oxide? it makes me oblivious to what's going on.

> wonderful stuff with no lingering after-effects. I too have bolted from

> dentist chairs.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/19/01 7:20:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, roberts5@... writes:

Balance, balance, balance, Ant Joan. I think that may even be where they got the term "unbalanced," from someone who acquires irrational fears after appearing fairly normal.

Dear Donna,

Are you implying that I'm "losing it?" I thought I was fairly normal (not too normal, though), and that fears of pain from dentists are well-founded rather than irrational. I better not get too unbalanced--I don't want to fall over!

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Donna,

How can Atavan (which I believe the correct spelling is Ativan) be classified as an antidepressant when it is in the same family as Valium, which I would consider a depressant??? I see it being used as an anti-anxiety med, but not really anti depressant. Or could you be referring to Adapin? which is one of the older anti depressants??

Ativan definitely has a calming affect but doesn't stay in your system as long a valium, so I could see someone using it for a dental appt or something like that in order to combat the nervousness and anxiety that goes along with it.

It is also recommended in very low doses for some who have restless leg syndrome.

Hope this helps......cause I'm a little confused about which med you were talking when you compared Atavan (your sp.) to Wellbutrin, Prozac or other anti depressants.

If I missed a post.......that might explain my confusion, but I'm thinking you were responding to people offering Ant Joan help with dental appt nervousness.

Have a good day all.

[Guest guest]

That's something that is used for Depression, too. Prozac, Welbutrin, Atavan.....they're all the same thing, really. Antidepressant. Be careful, though. Any time you put those things into your body, you're also putting in more toxins. Toxins need to be removed from the body or they'll start causing more problems than they alleviate. Ever heard the term, "Bedpan Bullets?"

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

Hi again I take .5 mg about 1/2 hour before getting into the chair. It doesn't seem to have much effect on me until I realize I've handled whatever it is. It is also known as lorazepam. K AntJoan@... wrote: In a message dated 7/18/01 7:18:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Fraserk@... writes: some sub-lingual ativan

Dear Kate, What is ativan--a regular anti-anxiety medication? How much do you take, and how much before the appointment do you have to take it (I have to go there after work, as he has no weekend hours in the summer). Thanks, AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Kate, you're so funny! LOL!

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

Great idea. I remember thinking 'This is hurting but I don't care...".Depends on whether or not your dentist uses it.Kdaisyelaine@... wrote:> Hi Ant Joan,> Have you ever used nitrous oxide? it makes me oblivious to what's going on.> wonderful stuff with no lingering after-effects. I too have bolted from> dentist chairs.>>>>

[Guest guest]

Ahahahaha! AntJoan, you're too funny! I'm sure you're not a nut! We're all a little nutty, but not crazy! I was talking about the B vitamins balance! You need something that will give you everything your body needs in the right balance so that you don't have those irrational fears. It probably is the imbalance of nutrients that's doing that to you. I'm going to be chuckling over your response all night!

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

In a message dated 7/19/01 7:20:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, roberts5@... writes:

Balance, balance, balance, Ant Joan. I think that may even be where they got the term "unbalanced," from someone who acquires irrational fears after appearing fairly normal. Dear Donna, Are you implying that I'm "losing it?" I thought I was fairly normal (not too normal, though), and that fears of pain from dentists are well-founded rather than irrational. I better not get too unbalanced--I don't want to fall over! AntJoan

[Guest guest]

That's right, Newme. "Ativan," you spelled it better than I did! I took a workshop at the Women's Festival here in Kalamazoo last January. They were talking about all kinds of drugs that were being used to treat Depression and Ativan was one of them. I would assume, then, that it is considered an anti-depressant. But I'm no pharmacist, that's for sure. I couldn't even balance my own individual supplements when I was a regular, heavy investor at the healthfood store. I don't have to do that anymore, though. Reliv is all balanced for me and is doing a pretty good job of keeping me feeling good. Shoot, my thyroid nodule is even way smaller now. So I'm sold. But my knowledge of depressants vs anti-depressants is about exhausted with what I've shared with you already. Hope I helped some.

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

Donna, How can Atavan (which I believe the correct spelling is Ativan) be classified as an antidepressant when it is in the same family as Valium, which I would consider a depressant??? I see it being used as an anti-anxiety med, but not really anti depressant. Or could you be referring to Adapin? which is one of the older anti depressants?? Ativan definitely has a calming affect but doesn't stay in your system as long a valium, so I could see someone using it for a dental appt or something like that in order to combat the nervousness and anxiety that goes along with it. It is also recommended in very low doses for some who have restless leg syndrome. Hope this helps......cause I'm a little confused about which med you were talking when you compared Atavan (your sp.) to Wellbutrin, Prozac or other anti depressants. If I missed a post.......that might explain my confusion, but I'm thinking you were responding to people offering Ant Joan help with dental appt nervousness. Have a good day all.

[Guest guest]

AntJoan,

I can understand the fear of dentists. I'm currently having major dental work due to quack dentist last year. It's costing me over $15,000. The quack dentist stole my bite and created a TMJ problem. I can understand the fear of the dental chair. Luckily I have a new dentist that is great but I still get nervous in the chair and he knows it and is sympathetic. I have to choice but to repair the damage so once a week I'm in the dentist office. If you have a good dentist it helps!!

mona

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

In a message dated 7/19/01 7:20:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, roberts5@... writes:

Balance, balance, balance, Ant Joan. I think that may even be where they got the term "unbalanced," from someone who acquires irrational fears after appearing fairly normal. Dear Donna, Are you implying that I'm "losing it?" I thought I was fairly normal (not too normal, though), and that fears of pain from dentists are well-founded rather than irrational. I better not get too unbalanced--I don't want to fall over! AntJoan

[Guest guest]

I didn't know it causes oxygen deprivation.....creepy but it works.

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

In a message dated 7/19/01 8:38:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, daisyelaine@... writes:

Have you ever used nitrous oxide? I guess that's laughing gas, right? My husband swears by it. I've always been afraid of it--if your brain is deprived of oxygen, I'm afraid of side effects, or brain damage. I guess the stuff is safe, though. Does anyone know how it works, and how safe it is? Thanks, AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Ya know, I've experienced the uncomfortable, apprehensive feeling in the dentist's chair. I thought it was normal, though. The only abnormal thing is the racing heart and tremors that I get after each injection of novacaine. It only lasts for a couple of minutes, but is that unusual?

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Re: A newbie here....stress levels

In a message dated 7/19/01 8:38:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, daisyelaine@... writes:

Have you ever used nitrous oxide? I guess that's laughing gas, right? My husband swears by it. I've always been afraid of it--if your brain is deprived of oxygen, I'm afraid of side effects, or brain damage. I guess the stuff is safe, though. Does anyone know how it works, and how safe it is? Thanks, AntJoan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/29/01 11:46:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mhs-way@... writes:

If you have a good dentist it helps!!

mona

Dear Mona,

Thanks for the words of empathy. This is a new dentist, which might be why I got so scared. Someone suggested I let him do the minor stuff first, and see how that goes. That's also good for desensitization. I think I'll try the nitrous oxide this time. I always was scared it would have side effects, but now I think I'm more scared of the dental work than the gas.

Take care,

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

Hi Ant Joan,

If it helps you to know - when I had nitrous I always had oxygen afterwards.

Also had to wait in waiting room a while til I could drive. I imagine

it's the same for most patients.

K

AntJoan@... wrote:

In a message

dated 7/29/01 11:46:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mhs-way@... writes:

If

you have a good dentist it helps!!

mona

Dear Mona,

Thanks for the

words of empathy. This is a new dentist, which might be why I

got so scared.

Someone suggested I let him do the minor stuff first, and see

how that goes.

That's also good for desensitization. I think I'll try the

nitrous oxide

this time. I always was scared it would have side effects, but

now I think

I'm more scared of the dental work than the gas.

Take care,

AntJoan