Re: Hyper experiments

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you for keeping me posted on what is going on. What is Mezotrace?

Is it colloidal or ionic? I use Trace Mineral Research's

" Electro-Vita-Min " multi, it has all the trace minerals plus the macros

and it is ionic, which means the body uses it. Colloidal is from

" million year old plants " in other words petrified, in solution. Just

like if you ground up a nail into a fine powder and floated it in a

liquid, (colloidal iron!) your body still could not use it. If it is

ionic, I would like to learn more about Mezotrace.

Keep up the good work,

Dr. Rand

BU007@... wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

> I've been experimenting on myself lately to try to determine what

minerals

> are essential to control hyperthyroidism. During my recovery from HyperT, I

> was taking alot of different supplements, so it was difficult to say exactly

> what led to my improvement. Now that I'm feeling confident that I have

> control over the situation, I've been trying to determine what the minerals

> are that are involved.

> Although I talk about minerals most of the time, please be aware that

I take

> all the vitamins also. I took all the same vitamins before I got hyperT, so I

> don't think my particular case was caused by any vitamin deficiency. Vitamins

> and minerals work together and minerals probably need adequate levels of

> vitamins to be absorbed and used properly. Make sure you're getting all the

> vitamins you need, because it's possible your case occurred because of a

> vitamin deficiency.

> I am quite sure that copper and zinc are necessary for thyroid health.

Some

> people are trying copper only at the beginning of supplementation, under the

> hypothesis that zinc may stimulate the thyroid and that is undesireable at the

> start. I think everyone realizes that zinc is necessary and will be needed at

> some point to balance and work with the copper. In September I tried not

> taking zinc for two weeks to see what would happen, and I got symptoms of zinc

> deficiency (prostate discomfort and white spots on my fingernails). I didn't

> notice any effect on my thyroid function.

> Lately I've been experimenting with chromium, selenium, and trace

elements.

> I'm pretty confident from my research and self-experimentation that the

> chromium and selenium are essential to prevent hypothyroidism, but am not sure

> of their role in affecting hyperthyroidism. Are one or more of the trace

> elements necessary for healthy thyroid function? I think so, but am not sure.

> Before this experimentation I noticed that occasionally I would not

feel

> well. I have a few bottles of a liquid colloidal mineral supplement which I

> used to take before I started taking the Mezotrace tablets (trace elements).

> Usually when I didn't feel well, I would take a big swig of the liquid

> minerals and feel better within an hour. It seemed strange, but it worked.

> About two weeks ago I stopped taking my 200 mcg chromium picolinate

> supplement and greatly reduced the selenium, and cut back on my Mezotrace

> tablets. A few days ago I started feeling some rapid heartbeat at night

> (always my most sensitive indicator of hyperT symptoms). One night before I

> went to bed I was feeling bad, but not with hyper symptoms. I took chromium,

> selenium, and the liquid trace elements. Within an hour I felt fine, and the

> nighttime rapid heartbeat I had been experiencing went away also.

> Although we've been wondering if copper is sufficient to halt the

hyper

> symptoms, I now am more convinced that other minerals are involved. The

> liquid trace elements has chromium and selenium along with many other

> minerals. It's possible that chromium and/or selenium are essential; and it's

> possible that something else in the trace elements is essential.

> If it were possible to find multiple vitamin-mineral supplements

without

> iodine or manganese, then that would be a convenient way to get most of your

> requirements satisfied. I think that hypers should get a good multiple

> (tablet would be better) and try one tablet or a half of one tablet to see

> what happens. I would think that it would benefit you to be getting as many

> vitamins and minerals as possible, but you may not be able to take a multiple

> until your copper (and possibly zinc) get built up. But as soon as you can

> take a multiple, then add that. As I said, the iodine and manganese in the

> multiple (and possibly something else) may be a problem, so start with a small

> amount. If you are going to have a negative effect it should be within a few

> hours at most.

> Also, it would seem to be a good idea to experiment with chromium,

selenium,

> and trace elements to determine if those are tolerated. Introduce one at a

> time so you can determine which one is responsible if you experience any

> negative effects. As soon as you can tolerate a mineral, add it go your daily

> schedule.

> So it appears that copper alone will help, but is not sufficient to

eliminate

> all the symptoms. For those of you who have not tried copper, be aware that

> most people feel pretty lousy for the first few days. I think that there is a

> correlation between the seriousness of your deficiency and how bad you feel

> the first week. The good news is that if you really feel bad, you will

> probably feel really great once you get replenished.

> Keep in mind that this is all experimental and I may not understand

what's

> going on. Your condition may be different from mine and other people's. Be

> cautious when taking anything new.

> Please remember that all essential nutrients are essential to complete

> health. You have to make sure you get them all eventually. We're just trying

> to develop a pathway so that you don't get devastating hyper symptoms from

> some of the minerals which, though they are essential, may stimulate the

> thyroid if taken too soon.

> If you haven't written to me in awhile, please let me know how you are

doing.

>

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