Re: Suggestion of Sabottage??

[Guest guest]

I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells me that

you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your patients. It also

indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in order to

ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science can

provide.

The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in the

United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

department.

There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet there are

many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one of the

most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these golden 13

indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is it that

each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic approach that

consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this probably

will

not be well received, but there are so many indications in which Hyperbaric

oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in management

by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are cost

effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the reasons why

hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who would criticize

it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric service could

mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to meet

requirements where no other means is possible. The body of supporting evidence

for HBO

is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which serves

only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in situations where

it has shown itself to be effective.

Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully integrated

therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has been

suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to support

hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a radiology

department, a department of physical therapy or a department of surgery?

If you are interested contact the _President@..._

(mailto:President@...) .

Best regards,

Tom Fox

Vice President for Operations

American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

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[Guest guest]

Are you serious? The fact that a treatment ameliorates and/or is effective does

not determine if an insurance will reimburse said treatment. More so, even when

treatments are considered " covered " by various insurance plans, they are not

reimbursed at an honorable/appropriate level. Insurance plans seemingly cater

to certain specialist (e.g., surgeons) as indicated by the rates they are

reimbursed compared to other specialties. However, to remain on topic, we need

no fool ourselves into thinking that

" As hyperbaric oxygen moves into the

mainstream, then and only then will reimbursement for this therapy be

possible and out

of pocket costs be avoided " .

Hyperbaric " medicine " is already mainstream but the powers that regulate (HBOT)

apparently are not. With regard to:

" We must use the impressive anecdotal results to chart the direction for

unbiased

research that will develop a critical knowledge base. "

Unbiased research? Surely you jest. Research is often biased as numbers

(qualitative) are often presented to fit an agenda. Furthermore, there is

insurmountable data, both qualitative and quantitative, that indicates that

psychopharmacology is not effective and dangerous. Despite this, the FDA abused

their authority by approving many of these formulas due to apparent conflicts of

interests. That is, various panel members have and/or had financial

relationships with the various pharmaceutical giants. Insurance companies

continue to shell out billions to cover a majority of off label prescriptions,

many for children and adolescents, that have not been evaluated for use by this

population and do so in blind faith. It is estimated that approximately 90% of

prescriptions written and paid for by insurance plans are for children and/or

adolescents are off label.

Americans need to demand more from their politicians by demanding that they

place the interests and needs of Americans first.

[ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

We feel compelled to answer this post regarding sabotage. Having observed

the taping first hand we can assure you that there was no sabotage or

conspiracy. Leading up to the taping there was a genuine concern due to the

overwhelming response to the subject of the program, we would not be able to

accommodate everyone with an interest to attend. Even the day before, there

were a

number of requests to admit individuals that could not be met due to the

capacity

of the studio. In all cases, we were truthful about seat availability and

tried to avoid having individuals incur unnecessary expense only to be turned

away at the door. Still at the taping, individuals had to be turned away.

The taping went off without a hitch. The presentations of Drs. Harch,

Toole and Cuau were both professional and insightful.

The goal of the American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness is to increase

the awareness to the use of hyperbaric oxygen as a fully integrated

therapeutic option to treat neurological injuries and conditions that can be

shown to

benefit from the administration of oxygen under pressure.

Infighting serves nobody's purpose and has no place in the future of this

field. It serves to prevent the recognition of this therapy and its movement

into the mainstream. Those in the field must unite with unity of purpose

without accusations or statements that will alienate members within the field.

We

must use the impressive anecdotal results to chart the direction for unbiased

research that will develop a critical knowledge base. With unity of purpose

we will move this field forward. As hyperbaric oxygen moves into the

mainstream, then and only then will reimbursement for this therapy be possible

and out

of pocket costs be avoided.

If you would interested in increasing the awareness of hyperbaric oxygen as

a therapeutic option, please contact us at_

President@...<mailto:President%40aaha-us.org>_

(mailto:President@...<mailto:President%40aaha-us.org>) . Include your

name and zip code . We will take it from

there to contact your local PBS company.

Sincerely,

The Staff of AAHA

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yawn

Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells me that

you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your patients. It also

indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in order to

ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science can

provide.

The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in the

United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

department.

There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet there are

many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one of the

most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these golden 13

indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is it that

each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic approach that

consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this probably

will

not be well received, but there are so many indications in which Hyperbaric

oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in management

by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are cost

effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the reasons why

hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who would criticize

it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric service could

mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to meet

requirements where no other means is possible. The body of supporting evidence

for HBO

is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which serves

only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in situations where

it has shown itself to be effective.

Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully integrated

therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has been

suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to support

hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a radiology

department, a department of physical therapy or a department of surgery?

If you are interested contact the

_President@...<mailto:_President%40AAHA-us.org>_

(mailto:President@...<mailto:President%40AAHA-us.org>) .

Best regards,

Tom Fox

Vice President for Operations

American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

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[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, alot of Hyperbaric Facilities including those managed by

hospitals are not financially efficient. For example, a wound care facility

in the Detroit area charges $2100 per treatment of 90minutes. The insurance

companies pay it. This is not fiscal responsibility, rather highway

robbery.

Judy

>From: TFox194026@...

>Reply-medicaid

>medicaid

>Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:35:40 EST

>

>I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells me that

>you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your patients. It

>also

>indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in order to

>ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science can

>provide.

>

>The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in the

>United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

>department.

>There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet there

>are

>many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one of

>the

>most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these golden

>13

>indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is it

>that

>each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic approach that

>consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this

>probably will

>not be well received, but there are so many indications in which

>Hyperbaric

>oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

>

>Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in

>management

>by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are cost

>effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the reasons

>why

>hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who would

>criticize

>it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric service

>could

>mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to meet

>requirements where no other means is possible. The body of supporting

>evidence for HBO

>is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

>

>We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which serves

>only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in situations

>where

>it has shown itself to be effective.

>

>Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully

>integrated

>therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has been

>suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to support

>hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a

>radiology

>department, a department of physical therapy or a department of surgery?

>

>If you are interested contact the _President@..._

>(mailto:President@...) .

>

>Best regards,

>Tom Fox

>Vice President for Operations

>American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free

>email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

>http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, the hospital in Murrieta, CA. charges $2300.00 per one hour

session for wound healing and again insurance pays it.

>From: " judith burkholder " <judith_burkholder@...>

>Reply-medicaid

>medicaid

>Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:35:34 -0500

>

>Unfortunately, alot of Hyperbaric Facilities including those managed by

>hospitals are not financially efficient. For example, a wound care

>facility

>in the Detroit area charges $2100 per treatment of 90minutes. The

>insurance

>companies pay it. This is not fiscal responsibility, rather highway

>robbery.

>Judy

>

>

> >From: TFox194026@...

> >Reply-medicaid

> >medicaid

> >Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

> >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:35:40 EST

> >

> >I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells me

>that

> >you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your patients. It

> >also

> >indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in order

>to

> >ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science can

> >provide.

> >

> >The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in the

> >United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

> >department.

> >There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet there

> >are

> >many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one of

> >the

> >most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these golden

> >13

> >indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is it

> >that

> >each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic approach

>that

> >consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this

> >probably will

> >not be well received, but there are so many indications in which

> >Hyperbaric

> >oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

> >

> >Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in

> >management

> >by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are cost

> >effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the reasons

> >why

> >hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who would

> >criticize

> >it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric service

> >could

> >mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to meet

> >requirements where no other means is possible. The body of supporting

> >evidence for HBO

> >is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

> >

> >We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which

>serves

> >only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in situations

> >where

> >it has shown itself to be effective.

> >

> >Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully

> >integrated

> >therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has been

> >suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to support

> >hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a

> >radiology

> >department, a department of physical therapy or a department of

>surgery?

> >

> >If you are interested contact the _President@..._

> >(mailto:President@...) .

> >

> >Best regards,

> >Tom Fox

> >Vice President for Operations

> >American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

> ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers

>free

> >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

> >http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We are a nonprofit organization and charge $100 per treatment. We have

voted to increase our rate to $125 though on Mar 1 2007. We charge so

little for those who can not afford to come otherwise. Now that Medicaid is

reimbursing, they will only reimburse at 80%. We can not survie on that but

at least clients can come without the financial burden.

Judy

>From: " LEANNE ANTAYA " <leanneantaya@...>

>Reply-medicaid

>medicaid

>Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:41:36 -0800

>

>

>Absolutely, the hospital in Murrieta, CA. charges $2300.00 per one hour

>session for wound healing and again insurance pays it.

>

> >From: " judith burkholder " <judith_burkholder@...>

> >Reply-medicaid

> >medicaid

> >Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

> >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:35:34 -0500

> >

> >Unfortunately, alot of Hyperbaric Facilities including those managed by

> >hospitals are not financially efficient. For example, a wound care

> >facility

> >in the Detroit area charges $2100 per treatment of 90minutes. The

> >insurance

> >companies pay it. This is not fiscal responsibility, rather highway

> >robbery.

> >Judy

> >

> >

> > >From: TFox194026@...

> > >Reply-medicaid

> > >medicaid

> > >Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

> > >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:35:40 EST

> > >

> > >I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells me

> >that

> > >you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your patients.

>It

> > >also

> > >indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in order

> >to

> > >ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science

>can

> > >provide.

> > >

> > >The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in the

> > >United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

> > >department.

> > >There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet

>there

> > >are

> > >many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one

>of

> > >the

> > >most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these

>golden

> > >13

> > >indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is it

> > >that

> > >each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic approach

> >that

> > >consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this

> > >probably will

> > >not be well received, but there are so many indications in which

> > >Hyperbaric

> > >oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

> > >

> > >Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in

> > >management

> > >by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are

>cost

> > >effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the

>reasons

> > >why

> > >hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who would

> > >criticize

> > >it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric service

> > >could

> > >mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to meet

> > >requirements where no other means is possible. The body of supporting

> > >evidence for HBO

> > >is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

> > >

> > >We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which

> >serves

> > >only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in situations

> > >where

> > >it has shown itself to be effective.

> > >

> > >Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully

> > >integrated

> > >therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has

>been

> > >suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to

>support

> > >hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a

> > >radiology

> > >department, a department of physical therapy or a department of

> >surgery?

> > >

> > >If you are interested contact the _President@..._

> > >(mailto:President@...) .

> > >

> > >Best regards,

> > >Tom Fox

> > >Vice President for Operations

> > >American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

> > ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers

> >free

> > >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

> > >http://www.aol.com.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

where's your center Judy?

Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

>> > >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:35:40 EST

>> > >

>> > >I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells me

>> >that

>> > >you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your patients.

>>It

>> > >also

>> > >indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in

>> > >order

>> >to

>> > >ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science

>>can

>> > >provide.

>> > >

>> > >The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in

>> > >the

>> > >United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

>> > >department.

>> > >There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet

>>there

>> > >are

>> > >many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one

>>of

>> > >the

>> > >most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these

>>golden

>> > >13

>> > >indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is

>> > >it

>> > >that

>> > >each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic approach

>> >that

>> > >consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this

>> > >probably will

>> > >not be well received, but there are so many indications in which

>> > >Hyperbaric

>> > >oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

>> > >

>> > >Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in

>> > >management

>> > >by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are

>>cost

>> > >effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the

>>reasons

>> > >why

>> > >hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who would

>> > >criticize

>> > >it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric service

>> > >could

>> > >mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to meet

>> > >requirements where no other means is possible. The body of supporting

>> > >evidence for HBO

>> > >is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

>> > >

>> > >We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which

>> >serves

>> > >only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in

>> > >situations

>> > >where

>> > >it has shown itself to be effective.

>> > >

>> > >Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully

>> > >integrated

>> > >therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has

>>been

>> > >suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to

>>support

>> > >hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a

>> > >radiology

>> > >department, a department of physical therapy or a department of

>> >surgery?

>> > >

>> > >If you are interested contact the _President@..._

>> > >(mailto:President@...) .

>> > >

>> > >Best regards,

>> > >Tom Fox

>> > >Vice President for Operations

>> > >American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

>> > ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers

>> >free

>> > >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

>> > >http://www.aol.com.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

[Guest guest]

Northwest Ohio

>From: " Tami " <autismhelp4wa@...>

>Reply-medicaid

><medicaid >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:54:28 -0800

>

>where's your center Judy?

>

>

> Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

> >> > >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:35:40 EST

> >> > >

> >> > >I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells

>me

> >> >that

> >> > >you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your

>patients.

> >>It

> >> > >also

> >> > >indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in

> >> > >order

> >> >to

> >> > >ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science

> >>can

> >> > >provide.

> >> > >

> >> > >The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in

> >> > >the

> >> > >United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

> >> > >department.

> >> > >There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet

> >>there

> >> > >are

> >> > >many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one

> >>of

> >> > >the

> >> > >most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these

> >>golden

> >> > >13

> >> > >indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is

> >> > >it

> >> > >that

> >> > >each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic

>approach

> >> >that

> >> > >consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this

> >> > >probably will

> >> > >not be well received, but there are so many indications in which

> >> > >Hyperbaric

> >> > >oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

> >> > >

> >> > >Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in

> >> > >management

> >> > >by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are

> >>cost

> >> > >effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the

> >>reasons

> >> > >why

> >> > >hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who

>would

> >> > >criticize

> >> > >it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric

>service

> >> > >could

> >> > >mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to

>meet

> >> > >requirements where no other means is possible. The body of

>supporting

> >> > >evidence for HBO

> >> > >is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

> >> > >

> >> > >We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which

> >> >serves

> >> > >only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in

> >> > >situations

> >> > >where

> >> > >it has shown itself to be effective.

> >> > >

> >> > >Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully

> >> > >integrated

> >> > >therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has

> >>been

> >> > >suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to

> >>support

> >> > >hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a

> >> > >radiology

> >> > >department, a department of physical therapy or a department of

> >> >surgery?

> >> > >

> >> > >If you are interested contact the _President@..._

> >> > >(mailto:President@...) .

> >> > >

> >> > >Best regards,

> >> > >Tom Fox

> >> > >Vice President for Operations

> >> > >American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

> >> > ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now

>offers

> >> >free

> >> > >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

> >> > >http://www.aol.com.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

[Guest guest]

If in fact these figures are true they seem high and prevent the acceptance

of this therapy. I know that when I was in the hospital setting this was not

the case. Most freestanding fall into a range of between $100-$150 per hour.

I know this is where we are.

Best regards,

Tom

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[Guest guest]

But then I could be wrong about your motivation or drive " yawn " . Do you

participate in this list insulting or just plain rude?

I commented on your posting that hyperbarics was mainstream. If it so

mainstream why then is it in only 800 of 6500 hospital in the US?

Regards,

Tom

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Judy- Do you have monoplace or multiplace chambers? Sue

judith burkholder <judith_burkholder@...> wrote: Northwest Ohio

>From: " Tami " <autismhelp4wa@...>

>Reply-medicaid

><medicaid >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:54:28 -0800

>

>where's your center Judy?

>

>

> Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

> >> > >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:35:40 EST

> >> > >

> >> > >I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this tells

>me

> >> >that

> >> > >you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your

>patients.

> >>It

> >> > >also

> >> > >indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in

> >> > >order

> >> >to

> >> > >ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that science

> >>can

> >> > >provide.

> >> > >

> >> > >The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital in

> >> > >the

> >> > >United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a radiology

> >> > >department.

> >> > >There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet

> >>there

> >> > >are

> >> > >many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is one

> >>of

> >> > >the

> >> > >most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these

> >>golden

> >> > >13

> >> > >indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or is

> >> > >it

> >> > >that

> >> > >each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic

>approach

> >> >that

> >> > >consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this

> >> > >probably will

> >> > >not be well received, but there are so many indications in which

> >> > >Hyperbaric

> >> > >oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

> >> > >

> >> > >Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in

> >> > >management

> >> > >by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs are

> >>cost

> >> > >effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the

> >>reasons

> >> > >why

> >> > >hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who

>would

> >> > >criticize

> >> > >it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric

>service

> >> > >could

> >> > >mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to

>meet

> >> > >requirements where no other means is possible. The body of

>supporting

> >> > >evidence for HBO

> >> > >is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

> >> > >

> >> > >We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting which

> >> >serves

> >> > >only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in

> >> > >situations

> >> > >where

> >> > >it has shown itself to be effective.

> >> > >

> >> > >Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully

> >> > >integrated

> >> > >therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It has

> >>been

> >> > >suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to

> >>support

> >> > >hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support a

> >> > >radiology

> >> > >department, a department of physical therapy or a department of

> >> >surgery?

> >> > >

> >> > >If you are interested contact the _President@..._

> >> > >(mailto:President@...) .

> >> > >

> >> > >Best regards,

> >> > >Tom Fox

> >> > >Vice President for Operations

> >> > >American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

> >> > ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now

>offers

> >> >free

> >> > >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

> >> > >http://www.aol.com.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

[Guest guest]

A hospital in the town we live and Shane was a patient after his accident has a

wound care center and charges $1,800.00 per session of HBOT. That is why we

went out of state to get his treatments at $125.00 per session at a free

standing clinic.

Marguerite

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[Guest guest]

Perhaps you need to focus on your employment of the concept " projection " with

regard to your most irrational jaunts. More so, just because a hospital does not

offer a service and/or treatment does not indicate the afore is not mainstream.

Naturopathic and Homeopathic Medicine is not afforded in many hospitals but

these modalities of medicine are indeed mainstream.

Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

But then I could be wrong about your motivation or drive " yawn " . Do you

participate in this list insulting or just plain rude?

I commented on your posting that hyperbarics was mainstream. If it so

mainstream why then is it in only 800 of 6500 hospital in the US?

Regards,

Tom

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[Guest guest]

No, multiplace. But, we would be grateful for a donation of a monoplace.

Judy

>From: Sue DuPart <gaduparts@...>

>Reply-medicaid

>medicaid

>Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:46:12 -0800 (PST)

>

>Judy- Do you have monoplace or multiplace chambers? Sue

>

>judith burkholder <judith_burkholder@...> wrote: Northwest

>Ohio

>

> >From: " Tami " <autismhelp4wa@...>

> >Reply-medicaid

> ><medicaid >

> >Subject: Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

> >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:54:28 -0800

> >

> >where's your center Judy?

> >

> >

> > Re: [ ] Suggestion of Sabottage??

> > >> > >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:35:40 EST

> > >> > >

> > >> > >I am glad you think that hyperbaric oxygen is mainstream this

>tells

> >me

> > >> >that

> > >> > >you are willing to embrace new therapeutic options for your

> >patients.

> > >>It

> > >> > >also

> > >> > >indicates that you are probably in the peer reviewed journals in

> > >> > >order

> > >> >to

> > >> > >ensure your patients are given the most recent advances that

>science

> > >>can

> > >> > >provide.

> > >> > >

> > >> > >The reality is this service is available at 800 of 6500 hospital

>in

> > >> > >the

> > >> > >United States. Imagine if only 800 of 6500 hospital had a

>radiology

> > >> > >department.

> > >> > >There are 13 indications for which this service is indicated. Yet

> > >>there

> > >> > >are

> > >> > >many more where the delivery of oxygen to meet critical needs is

>one

> > >>of

> > >> > >the

> > >> > >most basic clinical objectives for a practioner. What links these

> > >>golden

> > >> > >13

> > >> > >indications together, the critical need of tissue for oxygen? or

>is

> > >> > >it

> > >> > >that

> > >> > >each of these indications has no other effective therapeutic

> >approach

> > >> >that

> > >> > >consistently is able to provide positive results. I know that this

> > >> > >probably will

> > >> > >not be well received, but there are so many indications in which

> > >> > >Hyperbaric

> > >> > >oxygen therapy has shown itself to be effective.

> > >> > >

> > >> > >Truth is the insurance companies are supposed to be interested in

> > >> > >management

> > >> > >by the numbers. Effectively managed Hyperbarics oxygen programs

>are

> > >>cost

> > >> > >effective and bring about impressive results. This is one of the

> > >>reasons

> > >> > >why

> > >> > >hyperbaric programs have existed for over 200 years. Those who

> >would

> > >> > >criticize

> > >> > >it haven't really examined what a fully integrated hyperbaric

> >service

> > >> > >could

> > >> > >mean to the patients they treat. Therapeutically, it is able to

> >meet

> > >> > >requirements where no other means is possible. The body of

> >supporting

> > >> > >evidence for HBO

> > >> > >is mounting in support of this therapeutic approach.

> > >> > >

> > >> > >We have called for the field to unite and stop the infighting

>which

> > >> >serves

> > >> > >only prevent the availablity of this therapeutic approach in

> > >> > >situations

> > >> > >where

> > >> > >it has shown itself to be effective.

> > >> > >

> > >> > >Join with us in making Hyperbaric Awareness a reality and a fully

> > >> > >integrated

> > >> > >therapeutic option that is readily available in communities. It

>has

> > >>been

> > >> > >suggested that a 50 mile radius or a base population is needed to

> > >>support

> > >> > >hyperbaric facilites, is this exclusionary area needed to support

>a

> > >> > >radiology

> > >> > >department, a department of physical therapy or a department of

> > >> >surgery?

> > >> > >

> > >> > >If you are interested contact the _President@..._

> > >> > >(mailto:President@...) .

> > >> > >

> > >> > >Best regards,

> > >> > >Tom Fox

> > >> > >Vice President for Operations

> > >> > >American Association for Hyperbaric Awareness

> > >> > ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now

> >offers

> > >> >free

> > >> > >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

> > >> > >http://www.aol.com.

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > >