Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Yes I did as you did and as others will do in the future. But during the time I helped my child the scre tatics were still going on. That is what made me so carefull and workt hat much harder to do it right. I don't think your getting the point Rose. You are literatley attacking Jay Rain he is a good man with good intentions. HE really does not want to see any kid suffer. He is trying to help. You have to read the whole big picture here. I don't think you can see beyond what he say's into the true intent of his heart. Darin RE: [ ] chambers for sale >> >> >> >> Jay >> >> MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION >> >> Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what >> chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically >> necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as >> long as >> the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no >> problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting >> our >> time and money. >> >> You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my child >> a >> chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even put >> out >> a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing >> from >> God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every >> treatment >> center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check >> him >> out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg >> the >> wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never >> treated a >> child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own. >> They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess >> what, >> we're still alive 5 years later. >> >> There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children, >> not >> mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not >> hurt >> him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no >> breaks even on Christmas for years. >> >> Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do >> whatever >> it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad. >> They >> are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury. >> I >> have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of >> course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way! >> >> You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are >> wonderful, >> you deserve more money. >> >> As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly >> that....practicing. >> (I took this off one of your e-mails) >> >> Rose Manning >> >> p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he >> wasn't >> upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper >> you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. " >> [ 29:11] >> _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. >> _. >> Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association >> http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf >> >> Is HBOT at your hospital? >> http://apps.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/directories/index.cfm >> >> EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html >> >> Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy >> medicaid/files/ , >> 2/files/ and >> http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm >> >> Download your state EPSDT program >> http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the >> word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites >> http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver >> programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html >> >> Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, >> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, >> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm >> >> HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe >> to by sending a blank email to >> mailto:medicaid-subscribe >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Darin I never attacked him! Reread what I wrote. I was answering Mackrn, when he jumped in, which is fine. But I did not attack him. I believe it was the other way around, because he didn't understand what I was saying. I do not know Jay and never said he was a bad man. As far as scare tactics are concerned I find it hard to believe the horrible things that are said about fires, explosions and breaking the law are meant to help parents help their children. Don't you think education would work better? Say, every time someone mentions a home chamber everyone tells them the important things and where they can go to learn instead of trying to scare them. Child or reverse psychology is fine for children but we are adults. Scare tactics and fear is not what made me be careful. It was and is the love of my child. Darin you have been through a lot and I have no desire to argue with you. Do you think you made a mistake? Because if you believe what you did for your child was for the best then I don't understand why I'm having this conversation with you. Rose Manning Re: [ ] chambers for sale Yes I did as you did and as others will do in the future. But during the time I helped my child the scre tatics were still going on. That is what made me so carefull and workt hat much harder to do it right. I don't think your getting the point Rose. You are literatley attacking Jay Rain he is a good man with good intentions. HE really does not want to see any kid suffer. He is trying to help. You have to read the whole big picture here. I don't think you can see beyond what he say's into the true intent of his heart. Darin RE: [ ] chambers for sale >> >> >> >> Jay >> >> MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION >> >> Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what >> chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically >> necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as >> long as >> the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no >> problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting >> our >> time and money. >> >> You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my child >> a >> chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even put >> out >> a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing >> from >> God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every >> treatment >> center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check >> him >> out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg >> the >> wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never >> treated a >> child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own. >> They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess >> what, >> we're still alive 5 years later. >> >> There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children, >> not >> mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not >> hurt >> him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no >> breaks even on Christmas for years. >> >> Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do >> whatever >> it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad. >> They >> are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury. >> I >> have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of >> course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way! >> >> You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are >> wonderful, >> you deserve more money. >> >> As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly >> that....practicing. >> (I took this off one of your e-mails) >> >> Rose Manning >> >> p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he >> wasn't >> upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper >> you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. " >> [ 29:11] >> _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. >> _. >> Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association >> http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf >> >> Is HBOT at your hospital? >> http://apps.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/directories/index.cfm >> >> EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html >> >> Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy >> medicaid/files/ , >> 2/files/ and >> http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm >> >> Download your state EPSDT program >> http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the >> word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites >> http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver >> programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html >> >> Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, >> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, >> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm >> >> HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe >> to by sending a blank email to >> mailto:medicaid-subscribe >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 No you would not understand why your having this conversation with me. I agree. Yes however I do belive I did what was best for my child at the time. But do I think everyone should put a chamber in there home. Well let me tell you something No I do not. Not every parent is commmited as you and I. It is not our place to make that choice for them either. You have to understand I have seen some parents that would scare the hell out of me having a chamber in there home. I do trust and belive I did the best for my child. Rose you will never understand my ocnversations with you untill you have lost a child .. I hope that never happens to any of you. There are questions I ask of myself everyday. Did i take away time that could have been spent with her. Was I sure absolutely sure that it was the only way. I no it was but the question still remains everyday of my life. I wathced Lorinzo's Oil again tonight I thougth to myself what I done may not have been for Kaltyn exactly maybe it was to help another child. That is why Im so advocate and Im still here everyday fighting for what I no to work for mmy child. But one thing upsets me. No one really cares out there. However there are a few on the list that really want this to be covered. However as long as they get it for there child it's ok let someone else do the work. Well I said it. It has took many years to come out with it. But it is true. How many here are w3illing truly willing to make a fuss. To really stand up and say hey this works help us. I tell you. You don't have to ask me. Ask the Senators here in texas I went with my child to there office and when they told me the third time he was not in. Tha twas all it took I set up camp in his office yes camp I opened a Cot took a pillow oput and started setting up a shelf for Kaltyns medication when they came over and asked me what I was doing. I told them I had been there three times I had no more gas to travel Im staying tillhe gets here. Needless to say on the fourteenth floor there he comes in to see me. I guess they had a sky car to drop him off. Whatever but it worked. how many here are willing to do that. I left my child in the medicaid office with a worker because she told me we would have no nursing because medicaid was going to be cut out for amonth on Kaltyn. Well we didn;t even get to the door before she came got us and we had a nurse that night. This is the fighting that should be going on. No he said she said. Get over it. Quit please. I have been down that road. I was the one that attacked so many on the list , e and so many that didn't really desrerve it. But I was angry at the system. I had to step back and find what is really important. I tell you . That this therapy be reimbursed through insurance companies. Darin RE: [ ] chambers for sale >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay >>> >>> MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION >>> >>> Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what >>> chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically >>> necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as >>> long as >>> the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no >>> problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting >>> our >>> time and money. >>> >>> You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my child >>> a >>> chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even put >>> out >>> a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing >>> from >>> God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every >>> treatment >>> center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check >>> him >>> out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg >>> the >>> wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never >>> treated a >>> child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own. >>> They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess >>> what, >>> we're still alive 5 years later. >>> >>> There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children, >>> not >>> mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not >>> hurt >>> him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no >>> breaks even on Christmas for years. >>> >>> Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do >>> whatever >>> it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad. >>> They >>> are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury. >>> I >>> have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of >>> course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way! >>> >>> You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are >>> wonderful, >>> you deserve more money. >>> >>> As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly >>> that....practicing. >>> (I took this off one of your e-mails) >>> >>> Rose Manning >>> >>> p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he >>> wasn't >>> upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper >>> you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. " >>> [ 29:11] >>> _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. >>> _. >>> Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association >>> http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf >>> >>> Is HBOT at your hospital? >>> http://apps.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/directories/index.cfm >>> >>> EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html >>> >>> Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy >>> medicaid/files/ , >>> 2/files/ and >>> http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm >>> >>> Download your state EPSDT program >>> http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the >>> word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites >>> http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver >>> programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html >>> >>> Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, >>> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, >>> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm >>> >>> HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe >>> to by sending a blank email to >>> mailto:medicaid-subscribe >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 OK, I understand where you come from (sort of, but still not why you are acting like I am the one being nasty), now I will explain where I come from. 40 treatments a couple of times a year would never begin to make a dent in my son's condition. He needs constant treatments. And fight all you want, the government is not going to pay for a treatment everyday for years and years. Especially with the amount Medicaid pays for treatments of approved indications. I hope I'm wrong but that would amount to too much money. And it is all about money. Everything in the U.S. is about money. Always was always will be. I have joined in the fight with awareness. I make everyone aware that I meet. I get calls from people all over the area who know someone, who knows someone who talked to me. It is working. When the word gets out, we'll then and only then be too big to stop. And yes it does make me sick that no one talks about it. I could not believe how long people had been doing it in the U.S. and I never heard about it. Of course, I was looking for things on autism and when I tried it, no one was talking about it helping autism. I could have been quiet about it, but I believe if I had it would not be being used for autism like it is today. I came back to these list and told everyone. I got on other list and told them, I made calls to everyone I could think to call. Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families, it won't be long and it will be know about everywhere. There is strength in numbers. When you put the CP kids with the ones with autism and the TBA kids (and we need to get the ones with mental retardation and all of the other brain injuries cause by lack of O2, because it will work on them too) together it is probably half the families in the U.S if not more. We can be a front too big to stop. Rose Re: [ ] chambers for sale No you would not understand why your having this conversation with me. I agree. Yes however I do belive I did what was best for my child at the time. But do I think everyone should put a chamber in there home. Well let me tell you something No I do not. Not every parent is commmited as you and I. It is not our place to make that choice for them either. You have to understand I have seen some parents that would scare the hell out of me having a chamber in there home. I do trust and belive I did the best for my child. Rose you will never understand my ocnversations with you untill you have lost a child .. I hope that never happens to any of you. There are questions I ask of myself everyday. Did i take away time that could have been spent with her. Was I sure absolutely sure that it was the only way. I no it was but the question still remains everyday of my life. I wathced Lorinzo's Oil again tonight I thougth to myself what I done may not have been for Kaltyn exactly maybe it was to help another child. That is why Im so advocate and Im still here everyday fighting for what I no to work for mmy child. But one thing upsets me. No one really cares out there. However there are a few on the list that really want this to be covered. However as long as they get it for there child it's ok let someone else do the work. Well I said it. It has took many years to come out with it. But it is true. How many here are w3illing truly willing to make a fuss. To really stand up and say hey this works help us. I tell you. You don't have to ask me. Ask the Senators here in texas I went with my child to there office and when they told me the third time he was not in. Tha twas all it took I set up camp in his office yes camp I opened a Cot took a pillow oput and started setting up a shelf for Kaltyns medication when they came over and asked me what I was doing. I told them I had been there three times I had no more gas to travel Im staying tillhe gets here. Needless to say on the fourteenth floor there he comes in to see me. I guess they had a sky car to drop him off. Whatever but it worked. how many here are willing to do that. I left my child in the medicaid office with a worker because she told me we would have no nursing because medicaid was going to be cut out for amonth on Kaltyn. Well we didn;t even get to the door before she came got us and we had a nurse that night. This is the fighting that should be going on. No he said she said. Get over it. Quit please. I have been down that road. I was the one that attacked so many on the list , e and so many that didn't really desrerve it. But I was angry at the system. I had to step back and find what is really important. I tell you . That this therapy be reimbursed through insurance companies. Darin RE: [ ] chambers for sale >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay >>> >>> MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION >>> >>> Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what >>> chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically >>> necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as >>> long as >>> the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no >>> problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting >>> our >>> time and money. >>> >>> You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my child >>> a >>> chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even put >>> out >>> a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing >>> from >>> God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every >>> treatment >>> center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check >>> him >>> out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg >>> the >>> wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never >>> treated a >>> child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own. >>> They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess >>> what, >>> we're still alive 5 years later. >>> >>> There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children, >>> not >>> mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not >>> hurt >>> him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no >>> breaks even on Christmas for years. >>> >>> Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do >>> whatever >>> it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad. >>> They >>> are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury. >>> I >>> have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of >>> course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way! >>> >>> You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are >>> wonderful, >>> you deserve more money. >>> >>> As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly >>> that....practicing. >>> (I took this off one of your e-mails) >>> >>> Rose Manning >>> >>> p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he >>> wasn't >>> upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper >>> you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. " >>> [ 29:11] >>> _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. >>> _. >>> Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association >>> http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf >>> >>> Is HBOT at your hospital? >>> http://apps.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/directories/index.cfm >>> >>> EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html >>> >>> Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy >>> medicaid/files/ , >>> 2/files/ and >>> http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm >>> >>> Download your state EPSDT program >>> http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the >>> word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites >>> http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver >>> programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html >>> >>> Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, >>> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, >>> http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm >>> >>> HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe >>> to by sending a blank email to >>> mailto:medicaid-subscribe >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Rose Im sorry for saying you were being Nasty. I understand where you are comming from. You are a very good advocate here. I love your post and find them to be very informing. In fact I often said I would love to meet you one day. However I no you na dJay do not agree on certain things many do not understand where he is comming from. I on the other hand have just allmost finished Paramedic school and no why he has to respond the way he does. He is a Medical profesional allthough in his heart there are things he may want to say but he can't it woud not be ethical in his line of work.You have to understand he see's families everyday that try to help there childrent hat end up hurting him. So there is a fine line here. He is an awesome man and work's very hard for our children. I criticized Hatrtsoe one time well more than once but in reality he is trying the same as all of us to do somethig good. But in his frustration makes some wrong desicions as I have so many times in the past. Im proably one of the most hated people on the lsit for my mouth in the past. But I have stepped back and relized we all say things out of frustration. e a very good freind that I worked hard together for over two years then something haoppened between us I did not like we parted. But I do belive in her heart of hearts she was trying and still is trying to help the feild. Samir one of my dearest freinds love him to death get's bashed alot on here he never responds. I think mostly because his credibility speaks for itself. He has an awesome chamber the best on the market. If I had known about it when I got mine I would have purchased a Oxyhealth. Chamber. One because the Sechrist is very time consuming for me. Would I have still did treatments at a clinic yes. Because Kaltyns condition would have required it. But I would not have had a sechrist in my home if I had known. I would have had a Viteris as maintanace unit and went to Lufkin for treatments. I have seen kid's do so well from the portables and many people condim them. Why they do great. However there are some kid's that require deeper pressures. Samir and his staff would even tell you that. I have to be very carefull sometimes because I no the portables are a great machine. However some kid's do require a deeper pressure. You never here much from the makers of these products and that is a good thing. There is no reason for the fighting. The device speaks for itself. A mother from Oklahoma tells about how her son is doing well from the protable there are so many sucess story's it is unreal. I think clinic's are scared of the portables is what is is. In reality i think every brain injured or autism or stroke family should have one in there home. They are awesome. Even if there kid requires deeper pressures. It still will help during the waiting times for the next run of treatments. If Samir knew I was saying this stuff he would kill me. He is very modest but a wonderfull man. He helped me through one of the hardest times in my life. At the time of my daughters death he sent me words of encouragement that touched me in a way I could never explain. I will forever be indebted to that man. Rose keep up the good work. Just no or take the time call Jay talk to him on the phone or privately email him. You will see there is much compasion int he man's heart. I man sound like a nut after all the years of starting arguments myself. But I learnt the hard way. Im trying to save you all some trouble. I have no reason to be here my child has passed on. But she left a legacy within me that wont let me leave Hyperbaric's. She did well with the treatment but I still somehow think that it was a learning experience for us that is was not meant to heal her but for us to learn to help others out there that need this information so desperatley. I run into people everyday that need some type of information on Hyperbaric's. In fact you would be suprised at how many times this conversation has come up in class. To me that is a big break through people int he medical feild that would have nto known about this therapy are hearing something about it and it will be inplanted in there minds forever. Just to let you know we are fighting kaltyns case again with Texas Medicaid we found out that it had been paid for by Medicaid Wavier in Texas Three times before we filled for Katlyn and they denied us. In the apeal in 2001 they told us they had never heard of it be3ing used for Neurological. However they paid for it three times by means of the Medicaid Waiver in texas before we filled for it. Bill Creacy was one of those cases. His information is on the files page of this list. So see the goverment did no about it but denied her anyway. The part that killed me most is Kaltyn had funds to pay for her medical care but th estate felt that since she was not 18 to make thiose decisions it was up top me and my wife to quailfy for Medicaid and put Kaltyns money into a special needs trust. So anything we had to get for her had to go through Medciad first. Which cost us so much time in treating her conditions. Keep you head up rose I think alot of you and Im sorry if I offended you. I just know Jay's position in some things or I think I do and I no he wants what is best for our child. I also no he is in a position where he has to think from all angles medical profession as well as ours. I myself come to see things a little different after attending school. It shows you so much that we don't no ourselves. You would be suprised at how many people everyday do things to help there childrent hat really end up hurting them. Not saying that is the case in Hyperbarics Because it aint. It is and the only thing that is helping these kids I do no that. Hyperbarics is the treatmet. In fact are you aware that in the event of a car accident when there is head trauma the standard protocol is to overventalate the paitent to reduce the co2 in the paitents brain and increasing the O2. In fact what they are saying is in the event of a brain injury no matter what it is is to increse the o2 to the brain so you can reduce the co2 to stop the swelling. So in reality what they are saying is they no Hyperbaric works. But they wont come out and say it. In fact when you bag a paitent your doing it at this ata. If you was to but them in a chamber a bag the paitent with 100% o2 imagine the results you would get at the onset of injury. It would be amazeing. We are talking proably 80 to 90 percent less mortality rates than what we are seeing now. Just a thought for the day. With much respect Darin With much respect Darin RE: [ ] chambers for sale >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jay >>>> >>>> MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION >>>> >>>> Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what >>>> chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically >>>> necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as >>>> long as >>>> the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no >>>> problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting >>>> our >>>> time and money. >>>> >>>> You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my >>>> child >>>> a >>>> chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even >>>> put >>>> out >>>> a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing >>>> from >>>> God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every >>>> treatment >>>> center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check >>>> him >>>> out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg >>>> the >>>> wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never >>>> treated a >>>> child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own. >>>> They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess >>>> what, >>>> we're still alive 5 years later. >>>> >>>> There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children, >>>> not >>>> mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not >>>> hurt >>>> him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no >>>> breaks even on Christmas for years. >>>> >>>> Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do >>>> whatever >>>> it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad. >>>> They >>>> are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury. >>>> I >>>> have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of >>>> course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way! >>>> >>>> You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are >>>> wonderful, >>>> you deserve more money. >>>> >>>> As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly >>>> that....practicing. >>>> (I took this off one of your e-mails) >>>> >>>> Rose Manning >>>> >>>> p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he >>>> wasn't >>>> upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper >>>> you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. 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