RE: chambers for sale

October 5, 2005

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 5, 2005

I know of companies that sell chambers to families all the time.

Rita

October 5, 2005

You do realize that technically its not legal for a non-physicain to purchase a

chamber?

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 5, 2005

A true hyperbaric chamber is considered a medical device and by law can only be

purchased by a hospital of a physician with current license.

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

I know of companies that sell chambers to families all the time.

Rita

October 5, 2005

One is a Respiro270 and the other is a Solace.

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 5, 2005

I totally understand what you are saying Rita, these are not 100% chambers they

are portable chambers. Neither one of these are mine they are friends that do

not wish to post on there own. One is in Mn and the other is out of SC.

These people are not wanting to get a back lashing they are just hoping to help

others.

Thank you for the information that you have shared.

...

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

I know of companies that sell chambers to families all the time.

Rita

October 5, 2005

To (you did not sign your name) Mackrn

I would like to know where you got your information on this. What does

technically mean? It either is or is not. If this is your opinion then

please state it as such. With all the football players now purchasing

chambers I'm sure if it was illegal then someone would have made a fuss

before now, or is it ok because they are famous/rich?

You see thanks to the diving industry, hyperbaric chambers are not regulated

as much as they probably would be. It would cost the diving industry

(military also) billions to put doctors on every ship. This is one of those

times we benefit from the money made by a rich industry. Oxygen, in the US,

above 95% is considered a drug and needs a script from a doctor NOT a

chamber!

Love to all,

Rose Manning

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 5, 2005

I may be in the infancy of learning about the medical side of HBOT, but I

know for darned sure that is it not illegal for chambers to purchased and

used without a doctor in the U.S.

Oxygen needs a prescription from the doctor, but a doctor doesn't have to

dispense it. Think of all the people on home health that are using

oxygen---that's a LOT of people and they surely don't have a doctor visiting

their home---I know several on oxygen that don't even have a nurse coming to

their home.

On 10/5/05, rose manning <esslr@...> wrote:

>

> To (you did not sign your name) Mackrn

>

> I would like to know where you got your information on this. What does

> technically mean? It either is or is not. If this is your opinion then

> please state it as such. With all the football players now purchasing

> chambers I'm sure if it was illegal then someone would have made a fuss

> before now, or is it ok because they are famous/rich?

>

> You see thanks to the diving industry, hyperbaric chambers are not

> regulated

> as much as they probably would be. It would cost the diving industry

> (military also) billions to put doctors on every ship. This is one of

> those

> times we benefit from the money made by a rich industry. Oxygen, in the

> US,

> above 95% is considered a drug and needs a script from a doctor NOT a

> chamber!

>

> Love to all,

>

> Rose Manning

>

> Re: [ ] chambers for sale

>

> Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

> looking for a chamber.

>

> Thanks

> Rita

>

October 5, 2005

....or, with a prescription, by anybody.

And if you had to use it with nitrox, so be it.

There are enough regulations that prevent patients

from managing their own health, to also

deprive them of this controversial technique.

If they needed true hyperbaric chambers,

let them go to a hospital,

or, probably, to almost any self-respecting tropical beach.

Ignacio Fojgel, M.D.

Buenos Aires, Argentina

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:14:05 -0300, <MackRN@...> wrote:

> A true hyperbaric chamber is considered a medical device and by law can

> only be purchased by a hospital of a physician with current license.

> Re: [ ] chambers for sale

>

> I know of companies that sell chambers to families all the time.

> Rita

>

October 5, 2005

Sorry, but you have gotten your information a little confused concerning the the

use of oxygen and hyperbaric chambers.

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy involves the use of oxygen and a a device (chamber)

that require a prescription from a physician. Check the regulations with the

FDA. The chambers are considered a Class II device that are regulated by the FDA

and require a 501K listing the uses and limitations of the chamber. Any person

selling a true chamber for use by a non-physician is illegal and physicians that

sell the chamber after purchasing it to a non-physician can put their license at

risk.

The reason I say technically is that many of the chambers used at home are used

illegally or are not true HBO chambers. Unfortunately enforcement in this area

is limited and probably will not be until there are a few more incidents or

accidents using them. The problem I have with these chambers is that the public

just hears " hyperbaric chamber " when there is an incident and doesn't pay

attention to the fact it was a home based unit.

Advertisement of indications for chamber use in the US that list non-accepted

indications is regulated by the FDA and the False Claims Act. There have been

several " hyperbaric chamber " manufacturers that have received an FDA warning

letter due to this action.

The NFPA 99, chapter 20 defines the safety measures that the local fire

departments follow concerning hyperbaric chambers. The ASME PVHO is the safety

standard for Pressure Vessels for Human Occupancy and deals with the general

requirements of fabrication which many of the portable chambers or chambers for

minimal pressure do not meet.

As for the use of HBO chambers by football players, most of the ones being

treated with HBOT that I am aware of are being treated by trainers with

specialty training that are under the auspices of the team physician.

All chambers that are on military ships are also under the auspices of a

physician and run by specially trained personnel. Maybe you are not aware of

the fact that ships large enough to had a decompression chamber also have a

medical staff.

While it is true that commercial dive boats will not have a medical dive officer

on board, they are required to have specially trained staff on boat to run the

treatments and are in contact with a medical dive officer during the treatment.

Where did I get this information. Well attend a minimum of 2 conferences a year

on hyperbaric medicine, have worked in the field for over 23 years in both

multiplace and monoplace environments, have helped develop over 27 hyperbaric

programs across the country, one of the UHMS surveyors for chamber

certification, presented multiple times at national meetings, published in

several journals and one of the contributing authors in the only textbook in

hyperbaric nursing in print.

Wayne D. McHowell, RN, BSN, ONC, CEN, CHRNA

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 5, 2005

You should check FDA regualtions on the subject before you " know for darned "

sure that purchasing a chamber without the appropriate licensure is not illegal

in the US.

Yes after the doctor has written the script for oxygen, they are not required to

visit the home for the use of the oxygen. But there are regulations involved in

the purity of the gas, how it is deliverd and how it is stored that is delegated

to the person supplying the gas from the medical suppliers. When a medication

used for an off label use the physician is required legally to obtained consent

for an investigational indication.

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

>

> Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

> looking for a chamber.

>

> Thanks

> Rita

>

October 5, 2005

>Unfortunately enforcement in this area is limited

You mean fortunately, for the brain injured!

Please do tell about all the accidents with home based units, not involving

a doctor. Thanks in advance.

Rose Manning

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 6, 2005

Not sure where they were located or who was involved as information was minimal

due to HIPPA, but saw pictures at a recent seminar of a homemade chamber that

blew and had a presentation of several problems that happened due to in

attendance or inattention of tenders on the outside. Another case of no hard

documentation as there is no one in oversight of these chambers.

Wayne D. McHowell, RN, BSN, ONC, CEN, CHRNA

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 6, 2005

I don't believe anyone on this list plans to make a homemade chamber.

However, if we are kept from buying them, then expect that to start

happening. The truth is that there is no way to do long term treatments

without owning your own chamber. It is too difficult to travel, schedule

and have a life all at the same time. The best thing for the hyperbaric

community to do is to embrace the parents and help them get this safely

instead of fighting it. Of course, I understand some doctors in other

countries (not the US [exception Nuebauer]) do help their people.

Rose Manning

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 11, 2005

Rose-

Unless you are going to claim that you are a licensed commercial diver

or have extensive experience in the commercial diving industry or the

military medical corps then how can you make the statement you just made

?

Couple of facts here :

The professional athletes that purchase chambers are not acting alone in

this. Think about it....Most of our revered and idolized athletes can

hardly spell their own name let alone ponder a medical therapy. They

didn't' wake up one morning and suddenly think " if I combine high

barometric pressure with pure oxygen I will increase my natural ability

to heal and grow stronger " ....

Seriously, most of these guys are looking at the camera holding up two

fingers while crying " We're number ONE ! "

For every athlete who receives a chamber or any type of therapy there is

a team DOCTOR behind it all controlling it..... simultaneously

authorizing it through his medical license and thereby taking the

liability.

The difference (and truly the grey area) is when concerning o2. O2 in

itself is not a controlled substance nor does it require a prescription

for purchase or use....unless it is intended for use AS A MEDICAL

THERAPY OR MEDICATION ! People use o2 all the time for many things not

considered MEDICAL or THERAPY. Welding, diving, fabrication, etc.

Finally, chambers are in the same category. When a chamber is being

used for MEDICAL AND THEREPUTIC reasons it is considered a classified

medical device controlled by the FDA. As we have discussed before,

there are also other entities which are involved in the chamber

regulations and design.

And so everyone is clear on the REALITY of how chambers are run for

off-shore diving and for the military....there is a doctor ultimately

responsible for all MEDICAL hyperbaric activities.

The real way it works is this; a remote site medical personnel who is

trained and credentialed for their duty and responsibility works under

the structure of what is called " standing medical directive " . Under

this structure the remote caregiver is given permission to do certain

procedures and assume certain responsibilities based on the stated

directives.

As an example: Directive 1 = worker cuts finger - you apply bandaid

Directive 2 = worker lacerates arm - suture wound

closed

Directive 3 = worker gets bent following dive -

recompress and treat according to

company approved compression therapy tables

And so on.

There is a directive for all foreseeable medical scenarios and therefore

a well experienced, capable medic is able to work with great autonomy

with the professional trust and confidence of the PHYSICIAN that he/she

works under.

The chambers are also used for " planned o2 decompression diving " and

therefore the use of the oxygen is not regulated as a drug, BUT....as

soon as the same chamber and same oxygen is used as treatment for a

MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY all the rules change and the PHYSICIAN is

brought back into the picture.

This is the truth about how it actually works in the real world. Ask

anyone who has worked in either setting and you will get a resounding

" that " .

Jay A Rain, DMT, CHT

Director

South Coast Hyperbaric Medicine & Wound Care Center

3 Professional Park Drive

Webster, Texas 77598

281.554.8848

" He Heals most Successfully those in which he has the most confidence " -

Galen

Re: [ ] chambers for sale

Please share with what size the chambers are? I know of families that

are

looking for a chamber.

Thanks

Rita

October 11, 2005

Jay,

I disagree with your statement about athletes and hope you will reconsider

your stance. Overall, athletes are as diverse a group as the population at

large. I know many college-educated athletes who have highly successful

careers as lawyers, financiers and even professors after their careers. I

know this is off-topic, but it really struck a nerve with me since we have

quite a few friends and even a few relatives who are current/former

professional athletes.

I must thank you for all you have taught me about HBOT, including many

areas where I misunderstood or was mislead. I hope to continue to learn much

more from your expertise.

--

Donna

Mom to 21 (serving mission in Spain), Katy 19 (at BYU), Preston 16,

Annie 14, Kent 13, Callie 9 (cured from dyslexia), Carson 7, Dawson 5 (brain

injured--was severe now mild!)

October 14, 2005

Well Rose-

Why don't you just stand right up and kiss that rat's butt that you

wouldn't give on this one !?!

What the hell do you mean with all the talk about " never called you,

knocked on your door, put out an advertisement " ?? Is this intended to

be a coherent sentence ?

Are you saying that we're at fault for not letting you in on our little

hyperbaric secret ??

You know anyone out there making millions on brain injured children ??

Using Hyperbarics ?? I'd love to know who. I feel as though I have a

pretty good handle on how the hyperbaric world turns and I can promise

you that there isn't anyone making MILLIONS on brain injured children

using hyperbarics. And there are very, very few doctors that make

millions at anything (except maybe pharmaceutical development).

" You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are

wonderful,

you deserve more money. "

- well now, I believe I detect a tone of sarcasm here. Who are the

other " we " in this one ?

If the " we " collective really believes I deserve more money then feel

free to send it on !! My address is at the bottom of every reply and

message.

Lord knows where I'm going to store it though....with all my millions

from HBOT already.

And ask your football friend about the idiots he played with. I know

there are very competent guy's who play sports and then lead subsequent

productive, successful lives. Ask him about how intelligent or

successful some of them are, look at how our children idolize the

players and mimic their behavior. Ask him if we could find any better

sports figures to hold up as role models.

If we could place another idol on the sports pedestal who didn't project

to our children all the scandal, drugs, violence, immorality, steroids,

wife beating, un-faithfulness, lying and cheating....well then maybe,

just maybe America wouldn't have the stereotype of sports figures that

they do in their minds.

Maybe I wouldn't use it as a general example either, but until then I

believe many of the readers understood what I was trying to illustrate

Jay A Rain, DMT, CHT

Director

South Coast Hyperbaric Medicine & Wound Care Center

3 Professional Park Drive

Webster, Texas 77598

281.554.8848

" He Heals most Successfully those in which he has the most confidence " -

Galen

RE: [ ] chambers for sale

Jay

MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION

Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what

chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically

necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as

long as

the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no

problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting

our

time and money.

You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my child

a

chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even put

out

a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing

from

God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every

treatment

center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check

him

out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg

the

wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never

treated a

child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own.

They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess

what,

we're still alive 5 years later.

There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children,

not

mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not

hurt

him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no

breaks even on Christmas for years.

Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do

whatever

it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad.

They

are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury.

I

have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of

course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way!

You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are

wonderful,

you deserve more money.

As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly

that....practicing.

(I took this off one of your e-mails)

Rose Manning

p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he

wasn't

upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player.

" I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper

you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. "

[ 29:11]

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October 14, 2005

Jay

Yes, I am not happy about the fact that I spent thousands of dollars on

doctors and there is this treatment that actually works that no one bothered

to mention. I take every opportunity to tell people about it. My kids wish

I would stop sometimes. But if you have met me then you have been told

about Hyperbarics. I go to autism meetings to get the word out and I called

DAN and all the other autism " helpers " four years ago but they would not

listen to me. I am glad they are finally listening to someone.

As far as you making money off hyperbarics, I was not talking about you,

you are not a doctor, are you? I wasn't talking about hyperbaric doctors

either. I was talking about all the other neuros that keep telling people

that it doesn't work. Then they do absolutely nothing. Or worse they cut

on the poor little kids.

I'm sorry you're not making a fortune on hyperbarics. Is this why you are

so mad at athletes because they make so much? I don't get mad at them but I

don't support them either. I do not watch or go to their games and I do not

buy their stuff. That goes for movie stars too. But they have done nothing

to me and they are helping to get the word out about hyperbarics. Maybe

they have doctors backing them up, maybe you are right. Like I said I don't

care.

As far as them being bad role models for our kids, everything begins at

home. Parents should not blame others for the way their kids turn out.

Parents spend no time with their kids these days and then they want to blame

everyone else when they mess up. At our church, I chaperone everything

because no one else will but mostly because I want to. There are as many

good athletes out their as bad ones and some great ones that give a lot back

to the community.

I am just tired of anyone trying to keep a parent from helping their child.

I have been on this list for a long time and I do nothing except tell people

how well my son is doing and fight like crazy with the people who try to

scare parents from getting their own chamber. So anyone who comes on and

talks the big talk about chambers being too hard for parents to run or too

expensive, dangerous or illegal. Then I come out with the boxing gloves on.

Write what you want, and expect others to do the same. That is what these

list are all about. But try not to take everything so personal.

I hope you have a good weekend, I really do.

Rose

RE: [ ] chambers for sale

Jay

MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION

Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what

chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically

necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as

long as

the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no

problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting

our

time and money.

You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my child

a

chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even put

out

a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing

from

God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every

treatment

center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check

him

out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg

the

wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never

treated a

child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own.

They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess

what,

we're still alive 5 years later.

There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children,

not

mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not

hurt

him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no

breaks even on Christmas for years.

Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do

whatever

it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad.

They

are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury.

I

have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of

course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way!

You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are

wonderful,

you deserve more money.

As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly

that....practicing.

(I took this off one of your e-mails)

Rose Manning

p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he

wasn't

upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player.

" I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper

you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. "

[ 29:11]

_._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._.

_.

Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association

http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf

Is HBOT at your hospital?

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EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html

Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy

medicaid/files/ ,

2/files/ and

http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm

Download your state EPSDT program

http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the

word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites

http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver

programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html

Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm,

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October 15, 2005

Jay obviously these people are not willling to listen. Please don't

patronize them anymore that they allready are. As you and I all can clearly

see they are here to argue the fact. I told them allready use the portable

it does help yes. I have seen great results from it.In fact Im in favour of

it. I happen to love the device. I just think they need to stick with the

guidelines that come with the device. Unless they are trained otherwise.

What else are they asking for. I even told them I would have used one

myself. I think the Oxyhealth chamber is the best on the market. Recently I

started to get one for myself. I love that Chamber. Samir is a great guy

think the world of him he would not put nothing out there that was not

benificial to these parents. He really does care about the well being of

these children.

However Rose Pat and a few others are here to get you upset. The more they

see you responding it seem's the more upset you are. That is what they are

seeking to do. I have played this game in the past. I seen this and it takes

you no where. You loose freinds and people that you care about on the list.

Take it from me. Step back let them through the words. I was a guilty one

for some time. I can tell you I learnt nothing from it all. except stay away

and try not to respond anymore out of anger. I was the worlds leading anger

responder.

Darin

RE: [ ] chambers for sale

>

> Jay

>

> MEDICALLY NECESSARY THERAPY / MEDICAL THERAPY OR MEDICATION

>

> Well this is good then because the people in charge of deciding what

> chambers are used for will never say that hyperbarics is a " medically

> necessary therapy " for my son with autism or a child with CP. So as

> long as

> the people in control won't admit it is needed then we should have no

> problems. We are just stupid people that probably can't read, wasting

> our

> time and money.

>

> You know what, I frankly don't give a rat's butt. I have given my child

> a

> chance at life and you never called me or knocked on my door or even put

> out

> a T.V. advertisement telling us about hyperbarics. It was a blessing

> from

> God not you that I found out about it. I called just about every

> treatment

> center in the middle and eastern U.S. and all I got was we will check

> him

> out and decide if we think hyperbarics will work for him. I had to beg

> the

> wonderful people at the Ability Camp to treat him. They had never

> treated a

> child with autism before him but they said yes. We did it, on our own.

> They have no doctors there, just wonderful caring people. And guess

> what,

> we're still alive 5 years later.

>

> There are doctors out there making millions on brain injured children,

> not

> mine. We spent 8 years doing everything we could find that would not

> hurt

> him and nothing helped. We spent 14 hour days working with him with no

> breaks even on Christmas for years.

>

> Parents of brain injured children are special people, they will do

> whatever

> it takes to help their children. They are intelligent. They are sad.

> They

> are what you can never be unless you have a child with a brain injury.

> I

> have it easy. I'm not sure how some get out of bed in the morning, of

> course some never make it to bed. Help us or get out of our way!

>

> You're great, you're a doctor, we bow to you, we think you are

> wonderful,

> you deserve more money.

>

> As with anything in medicine, a practitioner is exactly

> that....practicing.

> (I took this off one of your e-mails)

>

> Rose Manning

>

> p.s. I told my friend about your comments about athletes; he said he

> wasn't

> upset but felt sorry for you. He was a professional football player.

>

> " I know the plans I have for you, " declares the Lord, " plans to prosper

> you and not to harm you, plans to give you a future and a hope. "

> [ 29:11]

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October 15, 2005

" rose manning " <esslr@f...> wrote:

I do not watch or go to their games and I do not

> buy their stuff.

======================

Okay, let me lighten things up here...this battle it getting quite

tense...

GOOOOO ASTROS!!!!!!!!!!!

The game starts in just over 2 hours....LETS GO ASTROS!!!

I have been a big Astros(and baseball for that matter) fan my entire

life....

GO 'STROS!!

LOL....settle down people we are all here for our children and to

find out the latest on HBOT...we may have(okay DO have)some

differences but we all want the best for our kids.

Castle

mommy to Cayden 16 months old CP, CVI, PVL (121 hours of HBOT and

human umbilical cordblood stem cell transplant)and

Payton almost 6 yrs going on 16

PS Cayden is doing great since her stem cell transplant 7 weeks

ago....she is doing new things and using her eye sight more than ever

(though still not tracking objects)!! She has rolled over from her

back to her tummy 2 times in the last week...she has never done that

until NOW!!! YEAH Cayden!!!

October 15, 2005

sorry forgot to add...if you would like to read a more detailed

update on Cayden visit the weekly journal on her website:

http://caydentowery.tripod.com/

Lets get back to helping our kids...not fighting over

athletes....there are good and bad in everything and every group and

athletes are included it that.

Castle

PS. GOOOOO ASTROS!!!....lol....did I already metnion the game is

starting soon!!??!!....LOL

" Castle " <castletowery@y...> wrote:

>

> " rose manning " <esslr@f...> wrote:

> I do not watch or go to their games and I do not

> > buy their stuff.

> ======================

>

> Okay, let me lighten things up here...this battle it getting quite

> tense...

>

> GOOOOO ASTROS!!!!!!!!!!!

> The game starts in just over 2 hours....LETS GO ASTROS!!!

>

> I have been a big Astros(and baseball for that matter) fan my

entire

> life....

>

> GO 'STROS!!

>

> LOL....settle down people we are all here for our children and to

> find out the latest on HBOT...we may have(okay DO have)some

> differences but we all want the best for our kids.

>

> Castle

> mommy to Cayden 16 months old CP, CVI, PVL (121 hours of HBOT and

> human umbilical cordblood stem cell transplant)and

> Payton almost 6 yrs going on 16

>

> PS Cayden is doing great since her stem cell transplant 7 weeks

> ago....she is doing new things and using her eye sight more than

ever

> (though still not tracking objects)!! She has rolled over from

her

> back to her tummy 2 times in the last week...she has never done

that

> until NOW!!! YEAH Cayden!!!

>

October 15, 2005

Darin,

What are you doing? Why? Noone is trying to make anyone upset. I'm just

trying to stop all the scare tactics. Parents have the right to help their

children. You did.