Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Despite the melt downs that I've watched on one list just at a time when the entire community can celebrate the great victory of a Mom, Gilbert, who was able to take her baby home because the community united behind her, I have been reminded of the real proof that hyperbaric medicine works. The miracle is the lives it has touched for good. I've looked at the many clinics, from the 's in San Bernardino to Hartsoe's Miracle Mountain, to the several other clinics out there that have started, and the one in NJ that the Fischbaum's are working at setting up, and the new one Darin is hoping to open, and I see the same pattern again and again. People in the community who have the resources making personal sacrifice to set up a clinic to help others. Those who don't have those resources have volunteered in other ways. Freels set up Medicaid for HBOT, Hartsoe has set up his many groups, Foundations have been set up, legislators have been lobbied, Congerssional hearings held, homes have been mortaged, retirement funds have been raided, and parents beg for treatment for their children too. If hyperbaric medicine didn't work, instead of parents clamoring for more treatment, they'd be demanding that the attornies general in every state prosecute hyperbaric clinics for fraud and demand their money back. It is the same principle we saw in the Cold War, people voting with their feet, as they still are. Today, parents are voting with their money. Whether it is parents whose children were helped, loved ones cared for by family members, or patients themselves amazed at their own miraculous recovery. The miracle of oxygen saturation technology, to this day, never ceases to amaze me. The impact on society of hyperbaric medicine's full implementation as standard treatment for all of its true indications will be beyond price. Bill Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Mr. Duncan this all good news but as far as I can see this all for children, right? As far as the melt downs this group is out of control and no one can benefit from fighting so much especially at this time of the year. RIGHT? I would love to hear of some one doing great with the white and gray matter damaged and parse a global brain injury. Any care to tackle that one??? Here is my name nothing to hide! , mother of we live in Oklahoma... [ ] No greater proof that HBOT works Despite the melt downs that I've watched on one list just at a time when the entire community can celebrate the great victory of a Mom, Gilbert, who was able to take her baby home because the community united behind her, I have been reminded of the real proof that hyperbaric medicine works. The miracle is the lives it has touched for good. I've looked at the many clinics, from the 's in San Bernardino to Hartsoe's Miracle Mountain, to the several other clinics out there that have started, and the one in NJ that the Fischbaum's are working at setting up, and the new one Darin is hoping to open, and I see the same pattern again and again. People in the community who have the resources making personal sacrifice to set up a clinic to help others. Those who don't have those resources have volunteered in other ways. Freels set up Medicaid for HBOT, Hartsoe has set up his many groups, Foundations have been set up, legislators have been lobbied, Congerssional hearings held, homes have been mortaged, retirement funds have been raided, and parents beg for treatment for their children too. If hyperbaric medicine didn't work, instead of parents clamoring for more treatment, they'd be demanding that the attornies general in every state prosecute hyperbaric clinics for fraud and demand their money back. It is the same principle we saw in the Cold War, people voting with their feet, as they still are. Today, parents are voting with their money. Whether it is parents whose children were helped, loved ones cared for by family members, or patients themselves amazed at their own miraculous recovery. The miracle of oxygen saturation technology, to this day, never ceases to amaze me. The impact on society of hyperbaric medicine's full implementation as standard treatment for all of its true indications will be beyond price. Bill Duncan _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ , 2/files/ and http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to by sending a blank email to mailto:medicaid-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 No , it is for all of the brain injured. As you look at the 2002 testimony you'll see a few children but most are actually adults, like your son so tragically injured in a motor vehicle accident, much like my son was, at the dawn of his adult life. Anita just mailed out a set of CDs and she said your was there. You'll be pleased to know that because of situations like your son's, 3000 of which happen every day in Oklahoma, the University of Oklahoma has just gotten a grant to start an Injury Prevention Center at the College of Public Health. The seed money came from your congressman. The goal is to first prevent and then treat, through active reforms in the level 1 trauma center at OU, acute traumatic brain injury, and eventually chronic traumatic brain injury, right there at the University. We had discussion with State Medicaid as well, which is very interested in reimbursing for this treatment. This is one of the Patient's Legal Defense and Assistance Fund packets that will be prepared. So, help is on the way for people in Oklahoma. We can talk more about this off-list. Bill Duncan Re: [ ] No greater proof that HBOT works Mr. Duncan this all good news but as far as I can see this all for children, right? As far as the melt downs this group is out of control and no one can benefit from fighting so much especially at this time of the year. RIGHT? I would love to hear of some one doing great with the white and gray matter damaged and parse a global brain injury. Any care to tackle that one??? Here is my name nothing to hide! , mother of we live in Oklahoma... [ ] No greater proof that HBOT works Despite the melt downs that I've watched on one list just at a time when the entire community can celebrate the great victory of a Mom, Gilbert, who was able to take her baby home because the community united behind her, I have been reminded of the real proof that hyperbaric medicine works. The miracle is the lives it has touched for good. I've looked at the many clinics, from the 's in San Bernardino to Hartsoe's Miracle Mountain, to the several other clinics out there that have started, and the one in NJ that the Fischbaum's are working at setting up, and the new one Darin is hoping to open, and I see the same pattern again and again. People in the community who have the resources making personal sacrifice to set up a clinic to help others. Those who don't have those resources have volunteered in other ways. Freels set up Medicaid for HBOT, Hartsoe has set up his many groups, Foundations have been set up, legislators have been lobbied, Congerssional hearings held, homes have been mortaged, retirement funds have been raided, and parents beg for treatment for their children too. If hyperbaric medicine didn't work, instead of parents clamoring for more treatment, they'd be demanding that the attornies general in every state prosecute hyperbaric clinics for fraud and demand their money back. It is the same principle we saw in the Cold War, people voting with their feet, as they still are. Today, parents are voting with their money. Whether it is parents whose children were helped, loved ones cared for by family members, or patients themselves amazed at their own miraculous recovery. The miracle of oxygen saturation technology, to this day, never ceases to amaze me. The impact on society of hyperbaric medicine's full implementation as standard treatment for all of its true indications will be beyond price. Bill Duncan _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ , 2/files/ and http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to by sending a blank email to mailto:medicaid-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Thank you Mr. Duncan for getting back with me. The only reason I posted any thing on children was because most of the doctors now would rather treat children because they say they bounce back faster. Low and behold they do grow up to be adults and then the whole world of Disabled will change. Nothing is handed to you, you haft to fight for every thing you need on top of taking care of your loved one. These are things that I have had to help so many people with here in Oklahoma and it is a every day chore. . [ ] No greater proof that HBOT works Despite the melt downs that I've watched on one list just at a time when the entire community can celebrate the great victory of a Mom, Gilbert, who was able to take her baby home because the community united behind her, I have been reminded of the real proof that hyperbaric medicine works. The miracle is the lives it has touched for good. I've looked at the many clinics, from the 's in San Bernardino to Hartsoe's Miracle Mountain, to the several other clinics out there that have started, and the one in NJ that the Fischbaum's are working at setting up, and the new one Darin is hoping to open, and I see the same pattern again and again. People in the community who have the resources making personal sacrifice to set up a clinic to help others. Those who don't have those resources have volunteered in other ways. Freels set up Medicaid for HBOT, Hartsoe has set up his many groups, Foundations have been set up, legislators have been lobbied, Congerssional hearings held, homes have been mortaged, retirement funds have been raided, and parents beg for treatment for their children too. If hyperbaric medicine didn't work, instead of parents clamoring for more treatment, they'd be demanding that the attornies general in every state prosecute hyperbaric clinics for fraud and demand their money back. It is the same principle we saw in the Cold War, people voting with their feet, as they still are. Today, parents are voting with their money. Whether it is parents whose children were helped, loved ones cared for by family members, or patients themselves amazed at their own miraculous recovery. The miracle of oxygen saturation technology, to this day, never ceases to amaze me. The impact on society of hyperbaric medicine's full implementation as standard treatment for all of its true indications will be beyond price. Bill Duncan _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/docs/JOIN_Friends_Apr04.pdf EPSDT decisions http://healthlaw.org/pubs/200308.epsdtdocket.html Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ , 2/files/ and http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistAK-FL.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistGA-NC.htm, http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolistOH-WI.htm HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to by sending a blank email to mailto:medicaid-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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