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Dear Kim....hi ...my son (2yrs old with pauci JRA) has been on

naproxen since May 2001....he has a lot of bruising too...they say its a side

effect, stomach problems, upset is another one. Take Logan to see a

pediatric rheumatologist...or have you already? They may be hard to find, but

its worth it.....there are less than 200 P.R. in the US to care for the

300,000 children with arthritis...so you may have to travel to find one. Is

there a Shriner's Hospital near you any where? Don't give up until you get

all the answers!....drs will put you off if you let them....most know very

little about kids with arthritis!

Take care.....

(Mom to Will, Pauci, 2yrs. old)

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Hi ,

I thought of you today, while reading the latest Kids Get Arthritis Too

Newsletter with Josh. Stemming back to some of our talk about the actual numbers

of children with JRA in the US. I'm not sure if you've read it yet but in the Q

& A section called Ask The Experts, Giannini, DrPH, MSc (Professor of

Pediatric Rheumatology) says ....

" ...Work researchers did with the National Institutes of Health suggests that

there are probably fewer than 50,000 cases of JRA in the United States when

using a strict definition of JRA... "

Can you believe how radically the numbers change? I'd take it that this is

probably a very reliable, up-to-date, source but I don't quite understand what

is meant by a 'strict definition' of JRA. I don't know the criteria.

Just thought you might like to know,

Georgina

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hi ...my son (2yrs old with pauci JRA) has been on

naproxen since May 2001....he has a lot of bruising too...they say its a side

effect, stomach problems, upset is another one. Take Logan to see a

pediatric rheumatologist...or have you already? They may be hard to find, but

its worth it.....there are less than 200 P.R. in the US to care for the

300,000 children with arthritis...so you may have to travel to find one. Is

there a Shriner's Hospital near you any where? Don't give up until you get

all the answers!....drs will put you off if you let them....most know very

little about kids with arthritis!

Take care.....

(Mom to Will, Pauci, 2yrs. old)

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Kim

is 15 years old going to the 10th grade she has poly JRA

with connective tissue disease

yall must have a scottish rite hosp there in Texas

we also have one in Atlanta lolol

what part of Texas are you?

Robbin

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Kim-

If Logan's been having problems since November 2001, I'd seriously question

the diagnosis of reactive arthritis. Do you feel good about the rheumy

you're seeing? I think choosing the right dr. is one of the most impt.

decisions you make in dealing with this disease. It sounds like Logan's in a

lot of pain and getting worse. Maybe Naprosyn is not enough. Ask questions

and make sure they get answered!!

Diane (, 3, pauci)

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Hugs to you Kim and to Logan. Yes, sadly it is this hard in the beginning,

diagnosing this is really just ruling out all of the other possibilities,

unfortunately. I think all of us would agree that the early days are the rough

ones, there isn't any one set of meds that is right for one child. Sometimes,

it is trial and error, and waiting, waiting for the right combination to work.

It is so very hard to watch your child in pain. Our thoughts are with you and

prayers that the right combination falls in to place for little Logan. Have you

talked with the Doc about the bruising (if you already said so, forgive me) - my

son has been bruising very easily - and he isn't on a NSAID. I don't know if it

is just being a boy, who is doing remarkably well or how concerned I should be.

I am watching close.

Hang in there!

Val

Rob's Mom(4,systemic)

In a message dated Sun, 23 Jun 2002 1:47:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

berlydawn4kids writes:

>

>

> Thank ya'll for replying so fast ! It is both sad and wonderful to

> have so many people to talk to. I hate that there are more kids out

> there like Logan,,and I hate this horrible disease! Thanks for the

> info,Amy. It just really makes me think that Logan has polyarticular

> (sp?)arthritis,not reactive. He dragged his leg behind him several

> times when he was about 20 months,but whenever we took him to the

> Dr.he would be fine.He had his first major flare in Nov.of 2001.He

> couldn't walk for days. We went to the orthopedic Dr. who did a lot

> of test with no results.Then Logan got better for about 2 weeks,then

> all of a sudden,he couldn't walk,crawl,or anything.We went back to

> the orthopedist,,he did a bone scan,,saw nothing.Then all of a sudden

> he just got better,and we thought " well thank goodness that is over "

> Fast forward to Feb.and it was the same old thing.So we finally got

> into ish Rite Hospital to see a ped rheumy in April. This is

> where the major frustration started. I don't feel like we got many

> answers,other than,yes he has arthritis.I haven't been told what kind

> really,,and it seems to just keeps spreading. His sed rate is staying

> at about 48-50 and his liver count is slightly elevated,his ASO titre

> is VERY high 1280 (regular is 1-200)and now he is bruised so

> badly.They also put him on a daily antibiotic,and he still got strep

> 2 weeks ago.AGGGHHHH,,,,is it always so hard to actually get a

> diagnoses,and to get on meds that don't have these adverse reactions?

> Sorry again for the long post,,as you can see I have been bottled up

> for a long time.

> Thanks,Kim and Logan 4 & 1/2

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Total agreement on that! Diane.

Many hugs and prayers for Logan..

Rusty Limbs

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:32:07 EDT dbornscheu@... writes:

Kim-

If Logan's been having problems since November 2001, I'd seriously

question

the diagnosis of reactive arthritis. Do you feel good about the rheumy

you're seeing? I think choosing the right dr. is one of the most impt.

decisions you make in dealing with this disease. It sounds like Logan's

in a

lot of pain and getting worse. Maybe Naprosyn is not enough. Ask

questions

and make sure they get answered!!

Diane (, 3, pauci)

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Robbin,

Yes we go to the ish Rite hosp. in Dallas. We live in north Tx, about

an hour from Dallas. We live in a little bitty town named Aubrey. So what

exactly is a conective tissue disorder? And how is that diagnosed? This is

all so frustrating,,,I just wish we would be told " Logan has such and

such,,here is some medicine,,he will live a full and wonderful life,,and be

pain free " But it is all so uncertain. " Logan may or may not outgrow this,,he

may or may not be in pain his entire life,,he may or may not be 'normal' "

Anyway enough whining,,,thanks for writing,,it helps just to know that I'm

not alone.

Kim & Logan 4 & 1/2

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Hi,Kim. Welcome to the group. When a child with jra gets strep they do

get,in my opinion, very sick. They have a lot of joint aches. At least my

son(15, AS and pauci jra) did when he got it last year. I do have an older

daughter(she does not have arthritis) who went through many strep

infections, with scarlet fever, when she was younger (3y.o.). She caught

strep once a month for about ten months, even on antibiotics. Eventually it

was determined her tonsills were so infected and swollen the only choice was

to remove them. She did not catch it again until she was 12. Unfortunatly

for Logan, the strep could be something else, not jra related. It does sound

like he has arhtritis going by the signs you have seen. It can take long to

get an acurate diagnosis. It took us 7 months from the first symptom for my

son. Michele

more on Logan

Thank ya'll for replying so fast ! It is both sad and wonderful to

have so many people to talk to. I hate that there are more kids out

there like Logan,,and I hate this horrible disease! Thanks for the

info,Amy. It just really makes me think that Logan has polyarticular

(sp?)arthritis,not reactive. He dragged his leg behind him several

times when he was about 20 months,but whenever we took him to the

Dr.he would be fine.He had his first major flare in Nov.of 2001.He

couldn't walk for days. We went to the orthopedic Dr. who did a lot

of test with no results.Then Logan got better for about 2 weeks,then

all of a sudden,he couldn't walk,crawl,or anything.We went back to

the orthopedist,,he did a bone scan,,saw nothing.Then all of a sudden

he just got better,and we thought " well thank goodness that is over "

Fast forward to Feb.and it was the same old thing.So we finally got

into ish Rite Hospital to see a ped rheumy in April. This is

where the major frustration started. I don't feel like we got many

answers,other than,yes he has arthritis.I haven't been told what kind

really,,and it seems to just keeps spreading. His sed rate is staying

at about 48-50 and his liver count is slightly elevated,his ASO titre

is VERY high 1280 (regular is 1-200)and now he is bruised so

badly.They also put him on a daily antibiotic,and he still got strep

2 weeks ago.AGGGHHHH,,,,is it always so hard to actually get a

diagnoses,and to get on meds that don't have these adverse reactions? Sorry

again for the long post,,as you can see I have been bottled up

for a long time.

Thanks,Kim and Logan 4 & 1/2

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