Fw: Please Post my letter

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From: poofter@...

Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:47 PM

Subject: Please Post my letter

> Hi Ilena,

>

> I have received some good responses to my questions about Hives. Thank You

> and the woman who have responded. I am now sure that it is the ruptured

> implant that is causing my problems.

>

> I know every woman's situation is a little different for why they had

> implants in the first place. I am sure my reason is not unique, but I

wanted

> to explain my reason's here so that I might find someone in my situation

who

> still replaced her's as I am doing.

>

> First of all I DO think that the implants are killing us and I wish I had

> never started with them. I Do believe they are toxic to our bodies as

there

> is way to much evidence pointing to it.

>

> When I started developing as a young girl, my left breast did not catch up

> to my right one. My left breast was a double AA while my right one became

> almost a C cup. Needless to say I had to wear padded bras all through High

> School. I never had gym in school because I would not undress in front of

> other girls. Even my best friends never knew. I never spent the night at

any

> friends house in fear of ridicule that I would always sleep with my bra

on.

> I would not ever let anyone see me with out it.

>

> At 19 years old I learned about these horrible implants, thinking they

would

> be the answer to my prayers. My parents were very supportive and scraped

> their money together so that I could have the operation. The doctor said

> that I should have them put in on both sides so that they would feel the

> same, so that's what I did.

>

> I know longer felt like a freak. I got married at 21 and never told my

> husband that I had implants. He was one of those guys that made fun of

woman

> with implants and only wanted an all natural girl. I told him the little

> scars under my boobs were from lump removal and he bought it.

>

> I had my first replacement 12 years later (my husband thought I was just

> going in for a lift) and we were headed for divorce anyways and wasn't

> talking much. When the doctors opened me up, they had seen that the

implants

> had ruptured. They replaced them with Saline. I have had them replaced a

> couple of times.

>

> A doctor finally diagnosed me with " Poland Syndrome " . It is a connective

> tissue disorder, and it is probably what caused me to not developed on the

> left side. I have had CFS for almost 20 years now, joint pains, Lupus

> symptoms...etc. etc. I have found relieve for a lot of these conditions

with

> Alternative Medicine. I don't believe in going through the drug route

> because it usually only covers up the symptoms. Alternative medicine

doesn't

> make me sleepy and usually makes me forget that I really even have a

problem

> in the first place. But when I do stop eating right and forget the things

I

> need to do for my body, the pains come back and I start having more

> noticeable symptoms again.

>

> Now that my right implant has ruptured, this is the first time that I have

> had hives. My Alternative Medicine doctors told me to put Lavender Oil

into

> lotion and rub it on after my shower. The itching stops right away. I am

> taking Benadryl & Claritin, which I can't stand because of the sleepiness.

> My Alternative Medicine doctors of course says I should have the implants

> out for good, but they do understand my decision to get them replaced

(know

> matter how dump I am for doing so).

>

> You see I am not in a mental state to live the rest of my life without

> breast at this time, and I have looked at the whole reconstruction/tram

flab

> things...you name it I have looked at it.

>

> The mental therapy it would take (if it worked) to get me to that point

> would take the rest of my life, as I am a product of this Stupid World we

> live in, where woman are judged by their breast size (No thanks to

> Hollywood, Playboy and the modeling crap that is stuffed down our

throats),

> as I have been part of and worked in Hollywood most of my life and have

> experienced this first hand. I know their are some men out there that says

> breast size doesn't matter, but when you really watch them, they talk the

> talk, but they don't walk the walk.

>

> I have to mention here, that I am not against men. I Love Men and was

raised

> by some real honorable and great ones. I also feel they have a battle in

> much the same way. For them there is way to much hype on the size of their

> private area as well, which most of woman would agree that we could care

> less about the size.

>

> I know it should not be this way, but I am around men all the time that

> continually make comments about the size of woman's breast and how great

> they look. I am still very young, I do not have a mate at home that says I

> love you just for you and not the way you look. I am not to that stage in

my

> life where I would feel comfortable taking off my clothes and showing what

I

> would be left with, (which for my situation, would be no more than hanging

> sags of flesh with a nipple on it. I am a very sexual person and breast

are

> involved in that process.

>

> I DO admire the woman who can be smart enough to get them removed for

good,

> I only hope that some day I can feel that good about myself that I won't

> need them either. As you can tell I never got over feeling like a freak in

> my teen years and do not wish to relive that at this time.

>

> I of course have shortened my story, even though I still have written so

> much. I was in hopes that I might be able to talk to other woman who has

> taken my route. I know with replacement that I run the risk again of

> rupture, which at that time I would have to have surgery again. Maybe by

> then there will be an alternative to this awful cycle or society might

start

> changing.

>

> I will be going to my Plastic Surgeon tomorrow and find out what brand

name

> of implants I have in. There is a different one in my left breast (that

has

> been fine for 11 years now). The right one is only 1 1/2 years old and

think

> it started leaking just a couple of months ago.

>

> I know that all implants are bad, but I Really would like to hear from

some

> of the woman who thinks that some might be the lesser of two evils, so

that

> I can tell the plastic surgeon which ones I would prefer.

>

> My first set of implants was Silicone made by McGhan, which had ruptured.

I

> also had in Baxter's, one of them ruptured. I would really like to hear

from

> anyone about their experiences with any of the new one's.

>

> Again I do not think implants are a good thing for any of us, as I talk to

> every woman and young girl that I meet about them, and warn them of the

side

> effects we all have experienced. As you all know, once you start having

> implants you can never go back to what you had before (which in my case is

> not an alternative). I think a lot of women are not aware that they may

have

> to go through reconstruction after having them removed.

>

> Thanks for listening, I look forward to any feed back.

>

> Much Love to you all,

>

> poofter

>

>

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hi patty.

i'm sorry.

i'm thinking now i'm still having pain.

i wish never done this.

if still pain i'll remove this.

i hate spend more money for this.

but i have no choice,i'm on antibiotic still....

i realize my children don't care how i look.

my children is all my life.

i love all my heart,they don't care i have big boobie.

they need happy healthy mom.

i'm so sad i wish i never done this.

can i ask you?

if i remove i never look like before?

i have 300cc now used be 32AAA.

thanks sonomi

>From: " Patty " <faussettdp@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Fw: Please Post my letter

>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:40:18 -0800

>

>From: poofter@...

>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:47 PM

>Subject: Please Post my letter

>

>

> > Hi Ilena,

> >

> > I have received some good responses to my questions about Hives. Thank

>You

> > and the woman who have responded. I am now sure that it is the ruptured

> > implant that is causing my problems.

> >

> > I know every woman's situation is a little different for why they had

> > implants in the first place. I am sure my reason is not unique, but I

>wanted

> > to explain my reason's here so that I might find someone in my situation

>who

> > still replaced her's as I am doing.

> >

> > First of all I DO think that the implants are killing us and I wish I

>had

> > never started with them. I Do believe they are toxic to our bodies as

>there

> > is way to much evidence pointing to it.

> >

> > When I started developing as a young girl, my left breast did not catch

>up

> > to my right one. My left breast was a double AA while my right one

>became

> > almost a C cup. Needless to say I had to wear padded bras all through

>High

> > School. I never had gym in school because I would not undress in front

>of

> > other girls. Even my best friends never knew. I never spent the night at

>any

> > friends house in fear of ridicule that I would always sleep with my bra

>on.

> > I would not ever let anyone see me with out it.

> >

> > At 19 years old I learned about these horrible implants, thinking they

>would

> > be the answer to my prayers. My parents were very supportive and scraped

> > their money together so that I could have the operation. The doctor said

> > that I should have them put in on both sides so that they would feel the

> > same, so that's what I did.

> >

> > I know longer felt like a freak. I got married at 21 and never told my

> > husband that I had implants. He was one of those guys that made fun of

>woman

> > with implants and only wanted an all natural girl. I told him the little

> > scars under my boobs were from lump removal and he bought it.

> >

> > I had my first replacement 12 years later (my husband thought I was just

> > going in for a lift) and we were headed for divorce anyways and wasn't

> > talking much. When the doctors opened me up, they had seen that the

>implants

> > had ruptured. They replaced them with Saline. I have had them replaced a

> > couple of times.

> >

> > A doctor finally diagnosed me with " Poland Syndrome " . It is a connective

> > tissue disorder, and it is probably what caused me to not developed on

>the

> > left side. I have had CFS for almost 20 years now, joint pains, Lupus

> > symptoms...etc. etc. I have found relieve for a lot of these conditions

>with

> > Alternative Medicine. I don't believe in going through the drug route

> > because it usually only covers up the symptoms. Alternative medicine

>doesn't

> > make me sleepy and usually makes me forget that I really even have a

>problem

> > in the first place. But when I do stop eating right and forget the

>things

>I

> > need to do for my body, the pains come back and I start having more

> > noticeable symptoms again.

> >

> > Now that my right implant has ruptured, this is the first time that I

>have

> > had hives. My Alternative Medicine doctors told me to put Lavender Oil

>into

> > lotion and rub it on after my shower. The itching stops right away. I am

> > taking Benadryl & Claritin, which I can't stand because of the

>sleepiness.

> > My Alternative Medicine doctors of course says I should have the

>implants

> > out for good, but they do understand my decision to get them replaced

>(know

> > matter how dump I am for doing so).

> >

> > You see I am not in a mental state to live the rest of my life without

> > breast at this time, and I have looked at the whole reconstruction/tram

>flab

> > things...you name it I have looked at it.

> >

> > The mental therapy it would take (if it worked) to get me to that point

> > would take the rest of my life, as I am a product of this Stupid World

>we

> > live in, where woman are judged by their breast size (No thanks to

> > Hollywood, Playboy and the modeling crap that is stuffed down our

>throats),

> > as I have been part of and worked in Hollywood most of my life and have

> > experienced this first hand. I know their are some men out there that

>says

> > breast size doesn't matter, but when you really watch them, they talk

>the

> > talk, but they don't walk the walk.

> >

> > I have to mention here, that I am not against men. I Love Men and was

>raised

> > by some real honorable and great ones. I also feel they have a battle in

> > much the same way. For them there is way to much hype on the size of

>their

> > private area as well, which most of woman would agree that we could care

> > less about the size.

> >

> > I know it should not be this way, but I am around men all the time that

> > continually make comments about the size of woman's breast and how great

> > they look. I am still very young, I do not have a mate at home that says

>I

> > love you just for you and not the way you look. I am not to that stage

>in

>my

> > life where I would feel comfortable taking off my clothes and showing

>what

>I

> > would be left with, (which for my situation, would be no more than

>hanging

> > sags of flesh with a nipple on it. I am a very sexual person and breast

>are

> > involved in that process.

> >

> > I DO admire the woman who can be smart enough to get them removed for

>good,

> > I only hope that some day I can feel that good about myself that I won't

> > need them either. As you can tell I never got over feeling like a freak

>in

> > my teen years and do not wish to relive that at this time.

> >

> > I of course have shortened my story, even though I still have written so

> > much. I was in hopes that I might be able to talk to other woman who has

> > taken my route. I know with replacement that I run the risk again of

> > rupture, which at that time I would have to have surgery again. Maybe by

> > then there will be an alternative to this awful cycle or society might

>start

> > changing.

> >

> > I will be going to my Plastic Surgeon tomorrow and find out what brand

>name

> > of implants I have in. There is a different one in my left breast (that

>has

> > been fine for 11 years now). The right one is only 1 1/2 years old and

>think

> > it started leaking just a couple of months ago.

> >

> > I know that all implants are bad, but I Really would like to hear from

>some

> > of the woman who thinks that some might be the lesser of two evils, so

>that

> > I can tell the plastic surgeon which ones I would prefer.

> >

> > My first set of implants was Silicone made by McGhan, which had

>ruptured.

>I

> > also had in Baxter's, one of them ruptured. I would really like to hear

>from

> > anyone about their experiences with any of the new one's.

> >

> > Again I do not think implants are a good thing for any of us, as I talk

>to

> > every woman and young girl that I meet about them, and warn them of the

>side

> > effects we all have experienced. As you all know, once you start having

> > implants you can never go back to what you had before (which in my case

>is

> > not an alternative). I think a lot of women are not aware that they may

>have

> > to go through reconstruction after having them removed.

> >

> > Thanks for listening, I look forward to any feed back.

> >

> > Much Love to you all,

> >

> > poofter

> >

> >

>

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From: sonomi johnson <sonomijohnson@...>

> hi patty.

> i'm sorry.

> i'm thinking now i'm still having pain.

> i wish never done this.

> if still pain i'll remove this.

> i hate spend more money for this.

> but i have no choice,i'm on antibiotic still....

> i realize my children don't care how i look.

> my children is all my life.

> i love all my heart,they don't care i have big boobie.

> they need happy healthy mom.

> i'm so sad i wish i never done this.

> can i ask you?

> if i remove i never look like before?

> i have 300cc now used be 32AAA.

> thanks sonomi

Hi Sonomi,

I am so sorry to hear that you are still having pain. How long have you

been taking the antibiotics?

Are they helping at all? If the doctor did not find any infection, why did

he prescribe them?

You are right about your kids.....your health and wellbeing is more

important than anything to them right now and for the rest of your life!

If you remove the implants, you can look like you did as before, but it

depends on several things. First of all, did you have stretch marks on your

breasts? If your skin is elastic and has no stretch marks, chances are good

that the skin, which has a certain amount of elasticity in it (and the

younger you are the better your elasticity usually), will retract back to

its former shape. Like a rubber band works, but, of course, it is human

skin and takes time and isn't as pronounced. You may look saggy at first,

but over time it should improve. This is what I was told by my plastic

surgeon, anyway, and I do not have personal experience with this.

In my case, I had problems before the surgery due to breastfeeding my 4

kids, and I had huge amounts of milk--I was a D cup with milk--which left me

with stretch marks and no elasticity in my skin. In order to have my

breasts look lifted, that is exactly what I had to do---have a lift. It

turned out good, (according to my husband!)

I hope that your problems stop soon, and that you can have some peace about

this, Sonomi, but I am glad to see that you are prepared to go without

breast implants because of the troubles when the time comes to make a

decision. We'll be here to help you through it!

Hugs,

Patty

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thanks patty.

i'm still pain same aria everyday i can feel pain every minutes.

i don't have any strech marks.

even i breast feed my two kids i never have.

i was 34AAA when i breast feed i was34A or B

now i'm 34B.

so i'm on antibiotic still.

it is very sad,i still like how i looks with implant.

i can waer bikini any kind clothes looks good.

i'm having texture implant i'm thinking if i have smooth,maybe i never have

problem like this.

because texture implant is case a lot problem to some people.

i didn't know i never ask my plastic surgeoun.

he never told me.

he just put the in.

secound surgery he put new texture small size implant.

in this compound(i'm living saudi arabia my dr is saudi man)

15 people have B/A.

every one is fine and happy expect me.

i see other lady has implant they are looks good make me sad.....

i ask my 10years old daughter how she think.

she said she dosn't like how looks like right now she said because lookes

funny.

i think she is right...

i hope my daughter never do this when she grow up.

oh well i'll quite antibiotic from today (i'm on 2and half weeks)

my left gland is still swollen and my left breast.

i'll wait little then get worse will take out.

i had dream i took implant out then my breast was very sage.

looks bad i was sooo worry.

but i think i should be ok ike patty said,i have only 300cc implant.

thank you very much patty cheer me up.

sonomi.

>From: " Patty " <faussettdp@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Fw: Please Post my letter

>Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:33:28 -0800

>

>

>From: sonomi johnson <sonomijohnson@...>

> > hi patty.

> > i'm sorry.

> > i'm thinking now i'm still having pain.

> > i wish never done this.

> > if still pain i'll remove this.

> > i hate spend more money for this.

> > but i have no choice,i'm on antibiotic still....

> > i realize my children don't care how i look.

> > my children is all my life.

> > i love all my heart,they don't care i have big boobie.

> > they need happy healthy mom.

> > i'm so sad i wish i never done this.

> > can i ask you?

> > if i remove i never look like before?

> > i have 300cc now used be 32AAA.

> > thanks sonomi

>Hi Sonomi,

>I am so sorry to hear that you are still having pain. How long have you

>been taking the antibiotics?

>

>Are they helping at all? If the doctor did not find any infection, why did

>he prescribe them?

>

>You are right about your kids.....your health and wellbeing is more

>important than anything to them right now and for the rest of your life!

>

>If you remove the implants, you can look like you did as before, but it

>depends on several things. First of all, did you have stretch marks on

>your

>breasts? If your skin is elastic and has no stretch marks, chances are

>good

>that the skin, which has a certain amount of elasticity in it (and the

>younger you are the better your elasticity usually), will retract back to

>its former shape. Like a rubber band works, but, of course, it is human

>skin and takes time and isn't as pronounced. You may look saggy at first,

>but over time it should improve. This is what I was told by my plastic

>surgeon, anyway, and I do not have personal experience with this.

>

>In my case, I had problems before the surgery due to breastfeeding my 4

>kids, and I had huge amounts of milk--I was a D cup with milk--which left

>me

>with stretch marks and no elasticity in my skin. In order to have my

>breasts look lifted, that is exactly what I had to do---have a lift. It

>turned out good, (according to my husband!)

>

>I hope that your problems stop soon, and that you can have some peace about

>this, Sonomi, but I am glad to see that you are prepared to go without

>breast implants because of the troubles when the time comes to make a

>decision. We'll be here to help you through it!

>Hugs,

>Patty

>

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Glad you are cheered up, Sonomi! I know how you feel about the implants. I

don't think any of us ever wanted to take them out. I didn't! I just

didn't like the way I felt. I would still have mine if I had my health, but

I was one of the unlucky ones. : ( But then again, I do consider myself

lucky, because I learned so much about life and health. (I would have like

to learn a different way, though!)

Yes, I know it seems like so many other women have implants and do OK with

them. But I always remind myself of the fact that their day will come....it

is a guarantee that SOMEDAY they will have to deal with them, whether it be

a rupture, a leak, slippage into the armpit, or destroyed health, or

whatever----not one of them will get by without some problem. They will

have to deal with their implants....someday, unless they die accidentally

first.

Implants are a bad idea! Not too many women have figured this out before

they go for their surgery, unless they have really done their research and

found women like us who have had nightmare experiences. If they only go to

their plastic surgeons, and listen to the sales pitch about how wonderful

implants will make them look, they will be deceived, and led down a path of

destruction. It is so sad. It happened to almost all of us.

(You girls on this list who made the decision to skip implants are the

smartest women I know....)

I just wish the surgeons would get off the implant idea altogether and start

researching a valid breast enhancement theory. Women want to enlarge their

breasts. That is a fact that will not go away. They just need to find a

new way to do it, that is all! Something safe, like tissue cloning!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: sonomi johnson <sonomijohnson@...>

< >

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:54 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: Please Post my letter

> thanks patty.

> i'm still pain same aria everyday i can feel pain every minutes.

> i don't have any strech marks.

> even i breast feed my two kids i never have.

> i was 34AAA when i breast feed i was34A or B

> now i'm 34B.

> so i'm on antibiotic still.

> it is very sad,i still like how i looks with implant.

> i can waer bikini any kind clothes looks good.

> i'm having texture implant i'm thinking if i have smooth,maybe i never

have

> problem like this.

> because texture implant is case a lot problem to some people.

> i didn't know i never ask my plastic surgeoun.

> he never told me.

> he just put the in.

> secound surgery he put new texture small size implant.

> in this compound(i'm living saudi arabia my dr is saudi man)

> 15 people have B/A.

> every one is fine and happy expect me.

> i see other lady has implant they are looks good make me sad.....

> i ask my 10years old daughter how she think.

> she said she dosn't like how looks like right now she said because lookes

> funny.

> i think she is right...

> i hope my daughter never do this when she grow up.

> oh well i'll quite antibiotic from today (i'm on 2and half weeks)

> my left gland is still swollen and my left breast.

> i'll wait little then get worse will take out.

> i had dream i took implant out then my breast was very sage.

> looks bad i was sooo worry.

> but i think i should be ok ike patty said,i have only 300cc implant.

> thank you very much patty cheer me up.

[Guest guest]

thank you patty.

yes i'm one of unlucky one too.

i read alot bad about implant.

but i kow 4 people have implant long long time they are ok.

one is 13 years silicone,other is sailine 9 years other i don't know.

today my pain is alot better i think.

i quit take antibiotic daybefore yesterday.

feel still swollen left breast.

i just wait let see.

if ok i'll keep it if not remove.

but like i thought before having pain i want have more big implant.

i don't want it.

if this implant repture or leak i'll remove it,done with it.

if anything happen i need go back to surgery i'll just remove it.

so many woman thinking more big breast.

they need think about after remove it.

because the implant not last fore ever.

i think i'm lucky one i realize think after remove implant.

never got large one.

well thaks patty .

i pray for your health...

sonomi

>From: " Patty " <faussettdp@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Fw: Please Post my letter

>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:02:33 -0800

>

>Glad you are cheered up, Sonomi! I know how you feel about the implants.

>I

>don't think any of us ever wanted to take them out. I didn't! I just

>didn't like the way I felt. I would still have mine if I had my health,

>but

>I was one of the unlucky ones. : ( But then again, I do consider myself

>lucky, because I learned so much about life and health. (I would have like

>to learn a different way, though!)

>

>Yes, I know it seems like so many other women have implants and do OK with

>them. But I always remind myself of the fact that their day will

>come....it

>is a guarantee that SOMEDAY they will have to deal with them, whether it be

>a rupture, a leak, slippage into the armpit, or destroyed health, or

>whatever----not one of them will get by without some problem. They will

>have to deal with their implants....someday, unless they die accidentally

>first.

>

>Implants are a bad idea! Not too many women have figured this out before

>they go for their surgery, unless they have really done their research and

>found women like us who have had nightmare experiences. If they only go to

>their plastic surgeons, and listen to the sales pitch about how wonderful

>implants will make them look, they will be deceived, and led down a path of

>destruction. It is so sad. It happened to almost all of us.

>

>(You girls on this list who made the decision to skip implants are the

>smartest women I know....)

>

>I just wish the surgeons would get off the implant idea altogether and

>start

>researching a valid breast enhancement theory. Women want to enlarge their

>breasts. That is a fact that will not go away. They just need to find a

>new way to do it, that is all! Something safe, like tissue cloning!

>Patty

>----- Original Message -----

>From: sonomi johnson <sonomijohnson@...>

>< >

>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:54 PM

>Subject: Re: Fw: Please Post my letter

>

>

> > thanks patty.

> > i'm still pain same aria everyday i can feel pain every minutes.

> > i don't have any strech marks.

> > even i breast feed my two kids i never have.

> > i was 34AAA when i breast feed i was34A or B

> > now i'm 34B.

> > so i'm on antibiotic still.

> > it is very sad,i still like how i looks with implant.

> > i can waer bikini any kind clothes looks good.

> > i'm having texture implant i'm thinking if i have smooth,maybe i never

>have

> > problem like this.

> > because texture implant is case a lot problem to some people.

> > i didn't know i never ask my plastic surgeoun.

> > he never told me.

> > he just put the in.

> > secound surgery he put new texture small size implant.

> > in this compound(i'm living saudi arabia my dr is saudi man)

> > 15 people have B/A.

> > every one is fine and happy expect me.

> > i see other lady has implant they are looks good make me sad.....

> > i ask my 10years old daughter how she think.

> > she said she dosn't like how looks like right now she said because

>lookes

> > funny.

> > i think she is right...

> > i hope my daughter never do this when she grow up.

> > oh well i'll quite antibiotic from today (i'm on 2and half weeks)

> > my left gland is still swollen and my left breast.

> > i'll wait little then get worse will take out.

> > i had dream i took implant out then my breast was very sage.

> > looks bad i was sooo worry.

> > but i think i should be ok ike patty said,i have only 300cc implant.

> > thank you very much patty cheer me up.

>

>

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