Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 What are you looking for? I mean what kind of curriculm are you looking/ asking for? --- Pam Houser <p_houser37@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I need some suggestions from you with older children > or anyone with some ideas. > > I need to know some teaching techniques or certain > cirriculum which has worked on your kids at school. > The things they use and do with now is not > working very well I don't think. She really is > getting no where. Maybe it's because she is still so > immature and it will click with her as she gets > older. I don't know. > > Her speech teacher sneds homework home 2 days a > week. What she sends home is impossible for > to do! She doesn't even understand it! Example: > Listen to a story and look at the picture. Color the > picture as you think about how you would finish the > story. cannot color! She does not understand > what you are even reading to her and she certainly > cannot understand what is going on in the picture! > Then it says to tell what happened next. > > On a nother paer she is suppose to cut out some > pictures and glue it next to the picture it belongs > to. This, to me is a waste of my time and hers. > > There must be a different way to teach her words and > understanding what the pictues are she is looking > at. She does have lash cards of different animals > and objects. If you give her two of them and tell > her to pick the " chiken " or whatever, she can do it. > It took a lot of practice but she does pretty well > with it. > > What has worked with your kids?? I need some > suggestions I can go to school with. > > Thanks Y'all are great!!! > > Pam mom to identical twins with DS Hannah and > age 6 > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Pam, First of all, what kind of school setting are your girls in? Are they in the same one? They should both have IEP's right? And the IEP's reflect each girl's needs.... Next, what are the speech goals/objectives? Were they written by the speech therapist that has now? Do these speech goals/objectives reflect her strengths/needs? And what exactly is the therapist doing when she sees ? Is she getting one-on-one, group time, or classroom time (where there therapist just pitches in right in the classroom, with whatever is going on)? Have you been able to observe? If I could, I would go straight to school to observe, almost regardless of any of the answers to the questions above. Are all the kids getting speech homework, or is getting some so that she can " catch up " to what the other kids are doing? Six year-olds are likely in kindergarten or first grade. (Sometimes still in pre-school if you don't turn 6 until after a certain date, say, Sept. 30). No 6 year-old, regardless, should be getting homework, for starters! (I know there might be a few teachers who think first graders should have it, but there is really no need.) That being said, there should be a difference between homework and " Mom, this is what we are working on in speech. is able to do XYZ, but maybe you could work on ______ with her every so often. " It sounds to me that this speech therapist isn't clear about 's speech goals. These sound like school/table work, busy work, and some pre-reading stuff. If you are just focusing on 's speech, then is it for expanding vocabulary, some receptive language, following directions, sequences, etc.? I would step back and see what the main objective is, and then develop activities based on that. Also, as you may be picking up from threads on this list, picture identitfication could be an excellent step to getting her to using pic-syms. Your identifying a way to get her to choose a picture is much more appropriate to that skill; she is having some success with that. Now, as for our family's experience with homework- from year to year it changes. You know, Ben is 11 and he HATES to color, really hates to write anything at all (well, he CAN'T write). He can't cut, either- although we keep exploring different scissors. (He would love to cut tags off of things! <g>) So anything that he does, I do the prep-work, and then either ask him to " point to " or " give me " answers to one-step kinds of things. Sometimes he " reads " or repeats after me. Sometimes he uses manipulatives, sometimes he will paste pre-cut words or pictures. Adaptations and modifications apply to not just the regular curriculum but to the task at hand for each child. For example, if a goal for is to use a picture schedule to understand what happens next for her day, or to lean some social stories, or to make choices, then there are lots of steps to be broken down to get to those goals. Small steps, or objectives, are what she should be working on regularly. Without knowing more, this is where I would start. I'm sure you'll get good ideas from others about this. Good luck! Beth Mum to Ben, age 11 1/2 >I need to know some teaching techniques or certain cirriculum which has >worked on your kids at school. The things they use and do with now >is not working very well I don't think. She really is getting no where. >Maybe it's because she is still so immature and it will click with her as >she gets older. I don't know. > > > >Her speech teacher sneds homework home 2 days a week. What she sends home >is impossible for to do! She doesn't even understand it! Example: >Listen to a story and look at the picture. Color the picture as you think >about how you would finish the story. cannot color! She does not >understand what you are even reading to her and she certainly cannot >understand what is going on in the picture! Then it says to tell what >happened next. > > > >On a nother paer she is suppose to cut out some pictures and glue it next >to the picture it belongs to. This, to me is a waste of my time and hers. > > > >There must be a different way to teach her words and understanding what >the pictues are she is looking at. She does have lash cards of different >animals and objects. If you give her two of them and tell her to pick the > " chiken " or whatever, she can do it. It took a lot of practice but she >does pretty well with it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Pam, First of all, what kind of school setting are your girls in? Are they in the same one? They should both have IEP's right? And the IEP's reflect each girl's needs.... Next, what are the speech goals/objectives? Were they written by the speech therapist that has now? Do these speech goals/objectives reflect her strengths/needs? And what exactly is the therapist doing when she sees ? Is she getting one-on-one, group time, or classroom time (where there therapist just pitches in right in the classroom, with whatever is going on)? Have you been able to observe? If I could, I would go straight to school to observe, almost regardless of any of the answers to the questions above. Are all the kids getting speech homework, or is getting some so that she can " catch up " to what the other kids are doing? Six year-olds are likely in kindergarten or first grade. (Sometimes still in pre-school if you don't turn 6 until after a certain date, say, Sept. 30). No 6 year-old, regardless, should be getting homework, for starters! (I know there might be a few teachers who think first graders should have it, but there is really no need.) That being said, there should be a difference between homework and " Mom, this is what we are working on in speech. is able to do XYZ, but maybe you could work on ______ with her every so often. " It sounds to me that this speech therapist isn't clear about 's speech goals. These sound like school/table work, busy work, and some pre-reading stuff. If you are just focusing on 's speech, then is it for expanding vocabulary, some receptive language, following directions, sequences, etc.? I would step back and see what the main objective is, and then develop activities based on that. Also, as you may be picking up from threads on this list, picture identitfication could be an excellent step to getting her to using pic-syms. Your identifying a way to get her to choose a picture is much more appropriate to that skill; she is having some success with that. Now, as for our family's experience with homework- from year to year it changes. You know, Ben is 11 and he HATES to color, really hates to write anything at all (well, he CAN'T write). He can't cut, either- although we keep exploring different scissors. (He would love to cut tags off of things! <g>) So anything that he does, I do the prep-work, and then either ask him to " point to " or " give me " answers to one-step kinds of things. Sometimes he " reads " or repeats after me. Sometimes he uses manipulatives, sometimes he will paste pre-cut words or pictures. Adaptations and modifications apply to not just the regular curriculum but to the task at hand for each child. For example, if a goal for is to use a picture schedule to understand what happens next for her day, or to lean some social stories, or to make choices, then there are lots of steps to be broken down to get to those goals. Small steps, or objectives, are what she should be working on regularly. Without knowing more, this is where I would start. I'm sure you'll get good ideas from others about this. Good luck! Beth Mum to Ben, age 11 1/2 >I need to know some teaching techniques or certain cirriculum which has >worked on your kids at school. The things they use and do with now >is not working very well I don't think. She really is getting no where. >Maybe it's because she is still so immature and it will click with her as >she gets older. I don't know. > > > >Her speech teacher sneds homework home 2 days a week. What she sends home >is impossible for to do! She doesn't even understand it! Example: >Listen to a story and look at the picture. Color the picture as you think >about how you would finish the story. cannot color! She does not >understand what you are even reading to her and she certainly cannot >understand what is going on in the picture! Then it says to tell what >happened next. > > > >On a nother paer she is suppose to cut out some pictures and glue it next >to the picture it belongs to. This, to me is a waste of my time and hers. > > > >There must be a different way to teach her words and understanding what >the pictues are she is looking at. She does have lash cards of different >animals and objects. If you give her two of them and tell her to pick the > " chiken " or whatever, she can do it. It took a lot of practice but she >does pretty well with it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Wow Pam!! couldn't even do that!! and he will be 12 next month!! How long has the speech teach been working with her and why/how does she feel that she can complete the assignment.?( I don't even know if I could complete the assignment!!!) Apparently, the speech teach does not know your daughter very well or she does not know how to modify her lessons!!!!! does well with flash cards too. Seems to me that there are too many steps to finish this assignment. I agree - it's ridiculous!!! Tell them to modify the assignment to her needs and how she learns!!!! As a parent, it is our right and duty to step in and guide those who teach our children. I know - in my heart - they are there because they wanted to be there but may not have the knowledge or expertise that we have - even the books they learn from may be outdated - therefore, as a parent, we must teach those who teach our children. I firmly believe in giving everyone a chance and helping out - until their actions show otherwise. I have worksheets and lesson modifications from the past 11 years and I always save examples and lessons so that I may be of assistance to help to others. Pam - I would take the paperwork that is sent home - modify and change things - or. . . invite this person to your house or call them and explain to them what is going on and what needs to be changed. Tell them you are still working on Step 1 or 2 and you will not agree with the next step until those steps are accomplished, and you feel she can move on! Pam, I have always believed that the parent knows the child best. I never want to set up to fail (overwhelm him with material) I'd rather set him up to succeed(one step at a time and know each step has meaning to him and his life!!) Oops - gotta go - to be continued... 's bus is early Kathy Suggestions??? Hi Everyone, I need some suggestions from you with older children or anyone with some ideas. I need to know some teaching techniques or certain cirriculum which has worked on your kids at school. The things they use and do with now is not working very well I don't think. She really is getting no where. Maybe it's because she is still so immature and it will click with her as she gets older. I don't know. Her speech teacher sneds homework home 2 days a week. What she sends home is impossible for to do! She doesn't even understand it! Example: Listen to a story and look at the picture. Color the picture as you think about how you would finish the story. cannot color! She does not understand what you are even reading to her and she certainly cannot understand what is going on in the picture! Then it says to tell what happened next. On a nother paer she is suppose to cut out some pictures and glue it next to the picture it belongs to. This, to me is a waste of my time and hers. There must be a different way to teach her words and understanding what the pictues are she is looking at. She does have lash cards of different animals and objects. If you give her two of them and tell her to pick the " chiken " or whatever, she can do it. It took a lot of practice but she does pretty well with it. What has worked with your kids?? I need some suggestions I can go to school with. Thanks Y'all are great!!! Pam mom to identical twins with DS Hannah and age 6 --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Wow Pam!! couldn't even do that!! and he will be 12 next month!! How long has the speech teach been working with her and why/how does she feel that she can complete the assignment.?( I don't even know if I could complete the assignment!!!) Apparently, the speech teach does not know your daughter very well or she does not know how to modify her lessons!!!!! does well with flash cards too. Seems to me that there are too many steps to finish this assignment. I agree - it's ridiculous!!! Tell them to modify the assignment to her needs and how she learns!!!! As a parent, it is our right and duty to step in and guide those who teach our children. I know - in my heart - they are there because they wanted to be there but may not have the knowledge or expertise that we have - even the books they learn from may be outdated - therefore, as a parent, we must teach those who teach our children. I firmly believe in giving everyone a chance and helping out - until their actions show otherwise. I have worksheets and lesson modifications from the past 11 years and I always save examples and lessons so that I may be of assistance to help to others. Pam - I would take the paperwork that is sent home - modify and change things - or. . . invite this person to your house or call them and explain to them what is going on and what needs to be changed. Tell them you are still working on Step 1 or 2 and you will not agree with the next step until those steps are accomplished, and you feel she can move on! Pam, I have always believed that the parent knows the child best. I never want to set up to fail (overwhelm him with material) I'd rather set him up to succeed(one step at a time and know each step has meaning to him and his life!!) Oops - gotta go - to be continued... 's bus is early Kathy Suggestions??? Hi Everyone, I need some suggestions from you with older children or anyone with some ideas. I need to know some teaching techniques or certain cirriculum which has worked on your kids at school. The things they use and do with now is not working very well I don't think. She really is getting no where. Maybe it's because she is still so immature and it will click with her as she gets older. I don't know. Her speech teacher sneds homework home 2 days a week. What she sends home is impossible for to do! She doesn't even understand it! Example: Listen to a story and look at the picture. Color the picture as you think about how you would finish the story. cannot color! She does not understand what you are even reading to her and she certainly cannot understand what is going on in the picture! Then it says to tell what happened next. On a nother paer she is suppose to cut out some pictures and glue it next to the picture it belongs to. This, to me is a waste of my time and hers. There must be a different way to teach her words and understanding what the pictues are she is looking at. She does have lash cards of different animals and objects. If you give her two of them and tell her to pick the " chiken " or whatever, she can do it. It took a lot of practice but she does pretty well with it. What has worked with your kids?? I need some suggestions I can go to school with. Thanks Y'all are great!!! Pam mom to identical twins with DS Hannah and age 6 --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 Hi to all: I have a question and this was the only place i could think of to hopefully get some suggestions. How do i explain to my 5 year old son that he cant " rough house " with because it may hurt him, without making feel that he is " different " or give him the fear he cant do anything without getting hurt or without a joint hurting?? My 5 year old has ADHD and is wild sometimes and doesnt understand that he may hurt because of this horrid disease. Any suggestions on how to handle this sensitivity would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance. Tina (mom of 7yr old , severe poly, and A.S.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Dear Tina,I wish I could give you some advice,I need some myself.My problem is is 3 systemic and he has a sister who is 6.She is a bit on the wild side herself and is always grabbing his wrists trying to pull him around and other times she is just mean to him.She is tired of her brother getting all of the attention,she has now started saying you love more than me,which is crazy,we are spending more one on one time with her,trying to reassure her that we love her every bit as much.I know she knows what she does to is wrong and could hurt him because if one of her friends grabs his wrists or does something that may hurt him she is the first to his defence,and will hollar at them " you cant do that he has arthritis " I hope with lots of love and patiants,and time she will ease up on him. is also in denial,he is tired of arthur,and if you ask him if he hurts,knowing that he does,he will start screaming arthur is gone,leave me alone.Good luck. becki and david 3systemic jramom2002 wrote: > Hi to all: > > I have a question and this was the only place i could think of to > hopefully get some suggestions. How do i explain to my 5 year old son > that he cant " rough house " with because it may hurt him, > without making feel that he is " different " or give him the > fear he cant do anything without getting hurt or without a joint > hurting?? My 5 year old has ADHD and is wild sometimes and doesnt > understand that he may hurt because of this horrid disease. > Any suggestions on how to handle this sensitivity would be greatly > appreciated!! Thanks in advance. > > Tina (mom of 7yr old , severe poly, and A.S.) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Tina rough housing is a boys nature i understand that you dont want either kid to get hurt playing and my son ( her brother) use to rough house she got tired of being the under dog lolol so she started hitting him with things lolol broke a hammer over his back and smacked him with a 2x2 in the mouth there is a big age difference in my kids though 10 years to be but kids will play you just have to sit them down and explain NO hard rough housing or they are punished you cant take away being a child or brothers but you can let them know if they are to play rough to take it easy lolol and some accidents do happen with my 2 even though melissa was really to small to fight and play rough she could handle herself with something and when she hit her brother with that 2x2 and seen all that blood he ran to the bathroom and she was the one screaming that she had killed her brother lololol sit and observe the kids dont let them catch you watching though watch how they play and wrestle both know theres a difference and they will play till the other says thats enough right now and her brother still pick at each other thats siblings for you but they will stick up for each other and melissa will tell him if you dont leave me alone i will hit you with a pot lolol it her brother who will tell if he sees shes doing something that will hurt her and tell her your not suppose to do that lololol being a brother or sister to a JRAer is special and also they will tell more if the child is doing wrong watch them and if they are doing to rough then tell them becareful dont just show the difference let them know the limits Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Robbin,I feal sorry for anyone who messes with Mellissa,she sounds like one tough young lady.I bet her brother learned his lesson. Becki Robbin40@... wrote: > Tina > rough housing is a boys nature i understand that you dont want either kid > to get hurt playing > and my son ( her brother) use to rough house she got tired of being > the under dog lolol so she started hitting him with things lolol broke a > hammer over his back and smacked him with a 2x2 in the mouth there is a big > age difference in my kids though 10 years to be > but kids will play you just have to sit them down and explain NO hard rough > housing > or they are punished > you cant take away being a child or brothers but you can let them know if > they are to play rough to take it easy lolol > and some accidents do happen > with my 2 even though melissa was really to small to fight and play rough > she could handle herself with something and when she hit her brother with > that 2x2 and seen all that blood he ran to the bathroom and she was the one > screaming > that she had killed her brother lololol sit and observe the kids > dont let them catch you watching though watch how they play and wrestle > both know theres a difference and they will play till the other says thats > enough > right now and her brother still pick at each other thats siblings for > you > but they will stick up for each other > and melissa will tell him if you dont leave me alone i will hit you with a > pot lolol > it her brother who will tell if he sees shes doing something that will hurt > her > and tell her your not suppose to do that lololol > being a brother or sister to a JRAer is special and also they will tell more > if the child is doing wrong > watch them and if they are doing to rough then tell them > becareful > dont just show the difference let them know the limits > Robbin > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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