Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 One other point with the emla cream is that especially with young children, is that they dont care if you tell them its not going to hurt because of the cream its the idea of getting a needle stuck into your arm that is scaring the crap out of them.........Holly a huge veterean of many blood draws (once had 14 sticks to get an iv) hardly cries at all, but since she was hospitalized over the summer is horrible about them now, so we have been using emla cream everytime, well let me tell you it took 5 people (her doc, another doc, 2 nurses and myself) to hold her down while she had blood work done, and she had emla on..........so what i am saying is sometimes its the mental part that makes them cry, even moreso than the physical stick. (just my 2 cents) aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 Hi AJ, Definitely. Needle sticks were one of the issues that we brought up as a concern when Josh was seeing a child psychologist. To Josh, he felt as if he were being invaded. Like he didn't have any control in the matter. This was way back, when he was six years old. After he was released from the hospital he needed blood draws weekly, then every two weeks, eventually going to just once a month ... except when he was sick or they had just changed his meds dosages. He was really too sick to put up any type of fuss at all while he was in the hospital and besides, they were using IV's then. Once he started to get a little better I think maybe it was a reminder to him that things were no longer the same as they used to be, prior to JRA. He never fought them or needed to be held down but he used to cry and cry. I'd get tears welling up in my own eyes, just seeing him so uncomfortable, stressed. Aloha, Georgina ajaomom@... wrote: > > One other point with the emla cream is that especially with young children, > is that they dont care if you tell them its not going to hurt because of the > cream its the idea of getting a needle stuck into your arm that is scaring > the crap out of them.........Holly a huge veterean of many blood draws (once > had 14 sticks to get an iv) hardly cries at all, but since she was > hospitalized over the summer is horrible about them now, so we have been > using emla cream everytime, well let me tell you it took 5 people (her doc, > another doc, 2 nurses and myself) to hold her down while she had blood work > done, and she had emla on..........so what i am saying is sometimes its the > mental part that makes them cry, even moreso than the physical stick. (just > my 2 cents) aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 hey donald why don't you try an EMLA bath and let us all know the results!!!!LOL!! Tree waiting patiently for your critique hehehehe Needle Pokes Oh for that cream, I hated to and still do, dislike getting that needle jabbed into my body. The only good thing in my favor is, I have great veins, at least that is what all the lab tech's and nurses tell me. I guess there has to one good part of my old body still working, considering the rest is falling apart or rusting away. There some days I think I would like to rub that EMLA cream, all over my body. To manage your subscription settings, please visit: For links to websites about JRA: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/Links.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 I was offered emla cream but found the 20 minute wait was too tiring. I was then offered eythl chloride which is a local anesthetic which works reallly well. It comes in a spray and you just spray it on the skin and the needle can go straight in-no wait. I dont know if you can get it in america but its worth a try if any of you are annoyed with emla. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 aj i agree one hundred percent..tabitha has been stuck with needles since she was four years old and now she is sixteen..she still throws a fit once in awhile. luckily we had doctors who told her she could scream as loud as she wants but she has to be still..i remember when she was little and trying to hold her..it was so amazing how much strength a child, as small as she was, could muster up. if you did not hold her arm straight before she bent it up there was trouble because there was no straightening it out once it was locked. karen From: ajaomom@... Reply- Subject: Re: Needle Pokes Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:11:27 EDT One other point with the emla cream is that especially with young children, is that they dont care if you tell them its not going to hurt because of the cream its the idea of getting a needle stuck into your arm that is scaring the crap out of them.........Holly a huge veterean of many blood draws (once had 14 sticks to get an iv) hardly cries at all, but since she was hospitalized over the summer is horrible about them now, so we have been using emla cream everytime, well let me tell you it took 5 people (her doc, another doc, 2 nurses and myself) to hold her down while she had blood work done, and she had emla on..........so what i am saying is sometimes its the mental part that makes them cry, even moreso than the physical stick. (just my 2 cents) aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 hi just reading the needle pokes this is a mental thing i think sticking and needles as we all know when we accidently stick ourself it does hurt kids find this out early in life plus its foriegn to them also i have told melissa i will always be there if any needles are present with her and she can hold on to me and i will not let anything happen to her that is unneeded the reason i guess i am more involved with her blood draws labs or any tests done my mom had a severe phobia this being needles and seeing blood mom was really BAD with this phobia she must have had a bad experience or something as a kid seen my moms phobia she walked up to my mom and said nitnu it dont hurt to bad to get the blood out or the shots just a little sting and its over this was said when my mom was in the hospital due to diabetes my moms words were but honey your nitnu dont need this done maybe seen what happened and might have over heard us talking but since she seen this she knows the phobia could have costed my mom her life this phobia is not something you would want when your diabetic and so terrified of needles you will fight or never see a doctor because your sick and really need a doctor my mom lost her battle with diabetes Sept 22 1999 in my heart i believe if she took better care of herself she would be with us today even if there was someone who would have taken time with her like the doctor or the lab tech or a nurse as they do with the kids this woman even though she was terrified of needles and blood gave birth to 12 kids during her life this phobia went on to 3 of those kids now sees the lab techs and says heres the one you get she has no fear so far as she once did and she knows i will be there Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 Georgina this is where the kids need something called TRUST in the lab techs knows the lab techs and will ask for the one she likes lololol the one who is gentle and gets it on the first try its a invasive thing like some of these tests these kids have to go through i always ask if its a invasive test before i tell or explain it to this way it will prepare her and since shes getting older she will ask why does this test need to be done and what for lololol i will be open and honest with her when i was young and had to get needles my mom had to have her sister take me to the doctor lololol Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Hi Robbin, We actually switched labs because one place really didn't handle kids so well. A couple errors too, not major ones but things like ... we'd go in for the regular labs and have it on the form that we needed another particular test and they'd call us the next day and say, oops. We forget to get blood for that test. For an adult, maybe that wouldn't be so bad but for a kid who doesn't particularly like being stuck all the time, to have to have another so soon afterwards, when you had promised it wouldn't be done for another two weeks ... well, that didn't work out too well. The other lab, it turns out, had the nicest, sweetest people. The parent of kids that went to my kids' school worked there and she was firm but very gentle and it really relaxed Josh. I mean, there was a major difference in his whole demeanor. For the first time ever, he didn't even need to sit on my lap anymore. Nowadays, we have them done at the hospital where he gets his MTX injection. Again, the nurses there are really great with children. It's so much easier, now. Sometimes the technicians attitude and " bedside manner' can have a great affect, in terms of the kids dreading the blood tests or being more willing to cooperate. Aloha, Georgina Robbin40@... wrote: > > Georgina > this is where the kids need something called TRUST in the lab techs > knows the lab techs and will ask for the one she likes lololol the > one who is gentle and gets it on the first try > its a invasive thing like some of these tests these kids have to go through > i always ask if its a invasive test before i tell or explain it to > this way it will prepare her and since shes getting older she will ask why > does this test need to be done and what for lololol i will be open and honest > with her > when i was young and had to get needles my mom had to have her sister take > me to the doctor lololol > Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Georgina your so right this one lab started with and she was uneasy then when the lady came in informed her that she was useing the wrong tube lololol the lady wanted to agrue with her and wouldnt let her take the blood the head tech came in and tried to comfort but stood her footing on it and was right the blood has to be in certain colored topped tubes lolololol when we went back to the dr i told of the event lololol and they agreed should know she has the labs done and shes the one who is poked lololol now i just watch lolololol if the parents would ask for the name of the lab tech that the child does real good with then every time they have to go get blood taken this would help ALOT parents have the rights to request that tech if you have to just ask for the times that one works and this saves ALOT of time and discomfort for the parent and child Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Hi Georgina: I noticed in your post that you mention Josh gets his methotrexate shot at the hospital... is that easier on him? As you probably remember, I have been giving Mickey her mtx shots and it developed over time into a big problem with her anxiety causing her to vomit at the time of the shot, from stress. For the summer, I've been giving her the shot after she fell asleep, but this is rapidly becoming unmanageable as well. The night of the shot, even with a dose of gravol to make her sleepier, she is very wakeful, and I've had to stay up half the night trying to find a time she doesn't wake up the moment I tip-toe into her room. It's very stressful, now on both of us and I need more sleep!! I may see about getting someone else to do it, afterall. Any ideas, again, would be greatly appreciated, from anyone. We've (I think) tried it all, including a special councellor at the hospital, who councels kids on ways to reduce anxiety. I'm looking into some other therapies, play therapy or art therapy, but would welcome any and all ideas. Lynn From: Georgina <gmckin@...> Reply- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:51:12 -1000 Subject: Re: Needle Pokes Hi Robbin, We actually switched labs because one place really didn't handle kids so well. A couple errors too, not major ones but things like ... we'd go in for the regular labs and have it on the form that we needed another particular test and they'd call us the next day and say, oops. We forget to get blood for that test. For an adult, maybe that wouldn't be so bad but for a kid who doesn't particularly like being stuck all the time, to have to have another so soon afterwards, when you had promised it wouldn't be done for another two weeks ... well, that didn't work out too well. The other lab, it turns out, had the nicest, sweetest people. The parent of kids that went to my kids' school worked there and she was firm but very gentle and it really relaxed Josh. I mean, there was a major difference in his whole demeanor. For the first time ever, he didn't even need to sit on my lap anymore. Nowadays, we have them done at the hospital where he gets his MTX injection. Again, the nurses there are really great with children. It's so much easier, now. Sometimes the technicians attitude and " bedside manner' can have a great affect, in terms of the kids dreading the blood tests or being more willing to cooperate. Aloha, Georgina Robbin40@... wrote: > > Georgina > this is where the kids need something called TRUST in the lab techs > knows the lab techs and will ask for the one she likes lololol the > one who is gentle and gets it on the first try > its a invasive thing like some of these tests these kids have to go through > i always ask if its a invasive test before i tell or explain it to > this way it will prepare her and since shes getting older she will ask why > does this test need to be done and what for lololol i will be open and honest > with her > when i was young and had to get needles my mom had to have her sister take > me to the doctor lololol > Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Meghann, also on Methotrexate, decided that she wanted to try the injection Vs the pills....thinking it might be easier on her stomach...the jury is still out on that one....however after giving her one injection myself, Meghann is now giving her own injection. We both were given instructions on what to do and how important it is to change sites etc....She was a little apprehensive giving herself the shot but she wanted to do it....I am sure it is like that feeling of apprehension before we had to stick ourselves in science class to check our blood types. She has her diagram of her sites and where she gives it to help....but I think again it is a control thing; now she is doing it to herself....and it was HER decision to try this... I don't remember how old Mickey is (sorry) but have you tried the pills? Is the mtx helping? Maybe a break from MTX completely for a while? I can understand the anxiety and the frustration you must feel, I have had to come to grips with just sometimes being the " bad " person. The " this is just the way it is " parent. It hurts but I believe Meghann is the stronger for it. I think tho maybe the night time after she falls asleep attempts at the injection might be a lot like distracting the baby while mom runs out the door. In the long run it causes more problems than saying goodbye face to face. ps. even children as young as six can give themselves injections....those children with juvenile diabetes (insulin dependent) learn how to do it. I hope that you are able to find something that works for you and Mickey... Sharon and Meghann JRA and PRS Re: Needle Pokes > > > Hi Robbin, > > We actually switched labs because one place really didn't handle kids so > well. A couple errors too, not major ones but things like ... we'd go in > for the regular labs and have it on the form that we needed another > particular test and they'd call us the next day and say, oops. We forget > to get blood for that test. For an adult, maybe that wouldn't be so bad > but for a kid who doesn't particularly like being stuck all the time, to > have to have another so soon afterwards, when you had promised it > wouldn't be done for another two weeks ... well, that didn't work out > too well. > > The other lab, it turns out, had the nicest, sweetest people. The parent > of kids that went to my kids' school worked there and she was firm but > very gentle and it really relaxed Josh. I mean, there was a major > difference in his whole demeanor. For the first time ever, he didn't > even need to sit on my lap anymore. Nowadays, we have them done at the > hospital where he gets his MTX injection. Again, the nurses there are > really great with children. It's so much easier, now. Sometimes the > technicians attitude and " bedside manner' can have a great affect, in > terms of the kids dreading the blood tests or being more willing to > cooperate. > > Aloha, > Georgina > > Robbin40@... wrote: > > > > Georgina > > this is where the kids need something called TRUST in the lab techs > > knows the lab techs and will ask for the one she likes lololol the > > one who is gentle and gets it on the first try > > its a invasive thing like some of these tests these kids have to go through > > i always ask if its a invasive test before i tell or explain it to > > this way it will prepare her and since shes getting older she will ask why > > does this test need to be done and what for lololol i will be open and honest > > with her > > when i was young and had to get needles my mom had to have her sister take > > me to the doctor lololol > > Robbin > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Hi Sharon & Meghann: Mickey is 7... and I agree with you, you got it right on with the feeling I get giving her the shot (or trying to) while she is asleep. I did it the first time without telling her, then told her afterward what I had done, to see what she thought, if she preferred it that way. She did, but after a few months, became such a light sleeper that it has become impossible to do it. But it does feel like that cheating thing, as you said, covering up the baby's eyes while mom sneaks out. And it think it has just avoided really dealing with her anxiety. Not a good solution, as it turns out. Hindsight is great! I am pursuing a councelling solution, getting her to talk to a child psychologist, to work out why she hates it so much, and gets so worked up, when she herself says she can't even really feel it. Hmmm.... maybe that is part of the problem, actually numbing it. She always watches, refuses to look away... maybe numbing it with EMLA (or Amatop Gel) is making it seems scarier, or unreal, because she CAN'T feel it? She is mostly okay with her bloodwork draws, rarely cries anymore - and we use nothing to numb for that. Gotta give that some thought. Thanks for your thought-provoking reply! I think you may be on to what is really behind her anxiety... gotta work it out somemore, but I do think there is a lot of merit in what you say. Thanks! Lynn From: " Gerfen " <rsgerfen@...> Reply- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:00:42 -0700 < > Subject: Re: Needle Pokes Meghann, also on Methotrexate, decided that she wanted to try the injection Vs the pills....thinking it might be easier on her stomach...the jury is still out on that one....however after giving her one injection myself, Meghann is now giving her own injection. We both were given instructions on what to do and how important it is to change sites etc....She was a little apprehensive giving herself the shot but she wanted to do it....I am sure it is like that feeling of apprehension before we had to stick ourselves in science class to check our blood types. She has her diagram of her sites and where she gives it to help....but I think again it is a control thing; now she is doing it to herself....and it was HER decision to try this... I don't remember how old Mickey is (sorry) but have you tried the pills? Is the mtx helping? Maybe a break from MTX completely for a while? I can understand the anxiety and the frustration you must feel, I have had to come to grips with just sometimes being the " bad " person. The " this is just the way it is " parent. It hurts but I believe Meghann is the stronger for it. I think tho maybe the night time after she falls asleep attempts at the injection might be a lot like distracting the baby while mom runs out the door. In the long run it causes more problems than saying goodbye face to face. ps. even children as young as six can give themselves injections....those children with juvenile diabetes (insulin dependent) learn how to do it. I hope that you are able to find something that works for you and Mickey... Sharon and Meghann JRA and PRS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Hi Lynn, Someone else already said that sometimes, as the parent, you sort of get forced to play the role of 'the bad guy.' Because Josh gets his injection done by a nurse, I've been able to avoid that in this situation. They say that if we don't like the way a person responds to us in a certain recurring situation, we may need to change our own behavior in order to elicit a different response. Maybe it wouldn't be so traumatic if somebody else did Mickey's. If you can try that, I would. To see what happens. You'd be there for moral support, able to console her afterwards if need be. If Josh gets approved to start the human growth hormone treatment we'll be trying something totally new. Fortunately, the one we're working towards is just one or two injections a month rather than every day. I felt a little bit anxious just thinking about doing a daily injection. I guess with practice it would have become routine but this will be lots more manageable I think. For both of us. I'm curious about how it will go. After reading some of the responses here, I guess Josh might be able to learn how to do it himself even, at his age. I hope it gets easier, soon. There's got to be some sort of solution. Aloha, Georgina Lynn Young wrote: > > Hi Georgina: > I noticed in your post that you mention Josh gets his methotrexate shot at > the hospital... is that easier on him? As you probably remember, I have been > giving Mickey her mtx shots and it developed over time into a big problem > with her anxiety causing her to vomit at the time of the shot, from stress. > For the summer, I've been giving her the shot after she fell asleep, but > this is rapidly becoming unmanageable as well. The night of the shot, even > with a dose of gravol to make her sleepier, she is very wakeful, and I've > had to stay up half the night trying to find a time she doesn't wake up the > moment I tip-toe into her room. It's very stressful, now on both of us and I > need more sleep!! I may see about getting someone else to do it, afterall. > Any ideas, again, would be greatly appreciated, from anyone. We've (I think) > tried it all, including a special councellor at the hospital, who councels > kids on ways to reduce anxiety. I'm looking into some other therapies, play > therapy or art therapy, but would welcome any and all ideas. > > Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Hi Lynn, I sure wish there was an easy way to get shots. My son(Chase, 8 with systemic) refuses to let me touch him with a needle....awake or asleep. He's on his 9th week of methatrexate shots. So I also have to take him to the dr.'s office and have a nurse do it. That's with his arm numb with emla cream, holding him on my lap and covering his eyes. It seems he's alittle braver around someone he doesn't know. I'm sorry I don't have any good ideas, but just wanted to let you know what works for us. Hope this works for Mickey....best of luck. Barb Mengle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 It has been awhile since I worked with the compressed air method - but it was designed for large volume multiple injections (we used them in the military for troop immunizations) - I have never seen them used for another purpose other than mass immuninizations - though my experience is limited to the military - and time changes some things quickly. Personnally - on the receiving end of the injection - I found the compressed air method much more uncomfortable (though, if done correctly is very fast) - than the needle. But I never had a problem with needles (until a run in with a particular dentist - but that's another story lol) - however, most people that I knew and worked with in the military preferred the compressed air method - (generally those with a needle phobia) so different methods for different people.... I hope you find a way that works for you! Rob's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Boy its good to hear that other kids react the same way to shots. Every Thursday when I had to give her MTX shot, I worried that the neighbors would hear her yelling and crying and me yelling and crying and think I was beating her. It's not easy to do something so invasive to your own little baby! Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Our doctor has suggested I take to a psycologist regarding the injections. If we have to start them again, I am going to take her there first. I cannot go thru the anguish again. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Hi, Some of you may recall that a year ago we had a similar problem with our son Damien who was six years old at the time. It got to the stage where even the Paediatric Nurse at our local hospital refused to perform the injections as it was so stressful for all concerned. I am very pleased to say that it is not such a problem now . Obviously he still doesn't like Thursdays much (his MTX day), but after about five weekly visits to a child psychologist he overcame some of his fears and has largely accepted the situation. He has Ametop gel (amethocaine - probably similar to Emla) applied to the area beforehand which seems to help. Because of the problems this caused I went on a largely fruitless quest to see if there were any needle-free alternatives. I discovered a number of different methods whereby medicines could be delivered subcutaneously (via compressed air etc), but did not find anyone who could supply methotrexate in this form. It may be worth another search? Best wishes, Oliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 pat..sorry it is karen again..i forgot and believe me I don't know how i forgot this one(my mind is still trying to wake up this morning). Tabitha was on the mtx shots, a nurse came and administered the shots at the time. It was when she was nine or ten. The dr. I had at the time,thought that a shot would be better than the pills. Well tabitha had such a reaction to the shots it was unbelievable! Now this was a summer where the temp. got up to 106 degrees outside. Tabitha after the shot would get chills so bad i had to put 6 blankets on her. Well i called the dr. he said try to give her benadryl..well that didn't help.I finally told him no more! I mean her eyes would become glazed and everything. So he suggested mtx orally mixed in orange juice, which that did work for awhile but Tabitha said she would rather go back to the pills. But I let her make the decision. I was glad though, she said the mtx tasted nasty in orange juice. Sorry to ramble thought i would add that. Oh by the way, sorry about the punctuation or lack of. I type like I talk..without a breath..lol karen From: sdbpab@... Reply- Subject: Re: Needle Pokes Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:08:13 EDT Boy its good to hear that other kids react the same way to shots. Every Thursday when I had to give her MTX shot, I worried that the neighbors would hear her yelling and crying and me yelling and crying and think I was beating her. It's not easy to do something so invasive to your own little baby! Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2001 Report Share Posted September 11, 2001 Hi, We don't have too much yelling over here ~ I don't give the injections ~but there's a similar sort of thing that disturbs me: the state of 's shins. He has bruising on his legs that will not go away. We wonder sometimes if it may be permanent? I hope not. I've talked to the doctors about this, quite a few times. No definite answer. Some of these bruises are years old but it looks as if he's a terribly battered child. I'm sure there have been people who've wondered about it. Nobody's ever said anything but if they did, they might not even believe my response. Oh yeah, he's got arthritis? Oh, and the meds are what caused all that bruising? Ah, well ... Take care, Georgina sdbpab@... wrote: > > Boy its good to hear that other kids react the same way to shots. Every > Thursday when I had to give her MTX shot, I worried that the neighbors > would hear her yelling and crying and me yelling and crying and think I was > beating her. It's not easy to do something so invasive to your own little > baby! > > Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2001 Report Share Posted September 11, 2001 Dear Georgina, Read your post--and that sounds like Kate. It was really bad when she was on Naprosyn. We recently moved and started a new school--and thats the first thing I said to her teacher and nurse--I don't beat her but it looks like it! She's a very active tomboy on her good days so you can only imagine what she looks like at times! lol! I remember when she was in preschool and on Naprosyn at the time--I picked her up and her teacher was almost in tears because she bumped a table and had a huge black bruise on her leg! Hers do tend to fade away--though she does have a few " shadows " left. Her dr. told us it's due from the meds and the fact that her immune system can't heal them as quickly. and Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2001 Report Share Posted September 11, 2001 , bruised pretty good too while on the naprosyn. The bruises didn't go away until after the med was discontinued. Teri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2001 Report Share Posted September 11, 2001 Dear Teri, I do agree that the naprosyn is a big factor in the bruising. Kate's on very high doses of ibuprofen and Enbrel injections, and while she still bruises easily--it's nothing like when she was on the naprosyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 Tabitha has been on Naporsyn for years and has never experienced bruising except when she hurts herself. karen From: " Teri " <thep115@...> Reply- Subject: Re: Needle Pokes Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:14:27 -0000 , bruised pretty good too while on the naprosyn. The bruises didn't go away until after the med was discontinued. Teri _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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