Re: Need some good info and resources

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Hi justine,

The malic acid is something you can get in health food stores. The

silica that they use in tablets is to keep them from falling apart,

so I try to get the supplements I take in capsules.Patty has more

knowledge than me as far as herbs go. I mostly stick with just a few

supplements. I avoid things that stimulate my immune system, since it

is already overactive. If you go to a pharmacist they may not know

much about these supplements. Malic Acid is for fibromyalgia.....it

really helps me allot!

Good luck and stay in touch

In @y..., cvrn8@a... wrote:

> Hello everyone!

>

> I have been reading with interest the growing number of people who

are using

> herbs and supplements to help them with various ailments. Many of

these

> people have great results, all without the need for rx meds.

>

> I desperately want to try some of these herbs/supplements. My

chief

> complaints are joint/muscle pain, migraines, and no energy. I have

been told

> to avoid places like GNC and other commercial stores, as the

products you

> receive are not pure, and can even be contaminated. In addition, I

was doing

> some looking around today, and saw that most of the ingredients on

these

> products contain silica or silica gel. The last thing I want to do

is start

> putting any form of silicone in my body!! However, I wonder if

this is

> necessary for freshness?

>

> Another woman also stated that she used MSM and mallic acid for

pain. I saw

> several preparations of MSM, and it stated on the labeling that MSM

was

> necessary for joint health. I wasn't able to find mallic acid, and

the

> pharmacist didn't know what it was. What is mallic acid for?

Also, what is

> the difference between glucosamine/costochondroitin, shark

cartilage, and

> Vitamin D/calcium? I know all are needed for bone/joint health,

but is one

> recommended over the other? I have degenerative disk disease, and

> generalized " softening " of my bones. Would one be better over the

others?

> And what about Vit C? Is this a good supplement to take?

>

> I like to think that I get most of this stuff in my diet, but I

know I don't.

> In reality, my diet is probably poorer than I like to think. My

labs

> consistently show that I am low on Fe (iron), and I've read that

Vit C helps

> Fe to be absorbed.

>

> Any recommendations I would greatly appreciate. I want to start

off slow,

> and not bombard my body with 3 million herbs/supplements. So, I

will listen

> to what anyone has to say and recommend. Any websites where you

can order

> these items I would also appreciate. I would like to know what

would be best

> to start off with, and how much.

>

> Thanks so much!!

>

> e--Cvrn8@a...

[Guest guest]

>Any recommendations I would greatly appreciate. I want to start off slow, >and not bombard my body with 3 million herbs/supplements. So, I will listen >to what anyone has to say and recommend. Any websites where you can order >these items I would also appreciate. I would like to know what would be best >to start off with, and how much.

e,

Have you looked at the Silicone Treatment protocol on Dr. Kolb's website? It offers good suggestions for supplements. Here it is:

> 1. Avoid land animal protein (red meat, pork, chicken) and restrict dairy> products. Deep sea fish are allowed - cod, salmon, mackerel, herring.>> 2. Emphasize fresh fruits, vegetables and whole grain.> a. Eat 50% raw foods.> b. Avoid night shade plants (potato, tomato, bell pepper, eggplant)> c. Clean the fruits and vegetables in a lemon and saltwater solutionbefore> eating.> d. No sweets, no candies, no pastries.> e. No bananas and limit the citrus fruits.>> 3. Drink 8 glasses of either filtered or distilled water a day.>> 4. Recommend a weekly program of walking followed by stretching.> Program Schedule> 5 min warm up 3 days on> 30 min walk one day off> 10 min stretch 2 days on> 5 min warm down one day off>> 5. Liver detox with Turmeric 600 mg 3 times a day or eat curry powder> (cooked) 40 gm a day. Milk thistle is also an herb that aides in liver> detoxification.>> 6. Supplements:> a. Multivitamin with minerals, one twice a day.> (Skip it if you take thymic formula with vitamins)> b. Vitamin C with flavonoid 500 mg 4 times a day.> c. Flax seed oil, one tablespoon/100 pounds of weight a day.> (Helps the body to eliminate silicate)> d. Inositol 500 mg two 3 times a day.> Natural Source; Beans, lentils, nuts, oats, rice, wheat germ, cantaloupe,> citrus (except lemon), whole grain.> e. Thymic factors 3 twice a day to 6 twice a day, depending on severity of> immune/autoimmune problems.> f. Ginkgo biloba 40 mg 3 times a day. Avoid two weeks prior to surgery.> g. Bromelain 300 mg 3 times a day or eat 1/3 pineapple a day.> (Note: Phytopharmica makes a supplement called CurcuMax that contains> Curcuma Root Extract & Bromelain which are natural anti-inflammatory> agents.)> h. Immunocal one packet (10gm) twice a day is recommended to rebuild> intracellular stores of glutathione.> i. If sulphur levels are low, MSM 1/4 teaspoon per 30 lbs body weight> dissolved in liquid orally once per day. Capsules are available.> j. Olive leaf extract one 500mg capsule twice a day for three days thentwo> 500mg capsules twice per day.>> 7. Stress management:> a. Relaxation exercises.> b. Meditation.>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> ---->> LEVEL II>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> ---->> 7. See Silicone Treatment Protocol B Level I.>> 8. For patients with symptoms of candidiasis (fatigue, muscle aches,> diarrhea, abdominal cramps, memory loss, vaginal yeast infections) we> recommend: Use of yeast diet ( see the Yeast Connection or other popular> books) and acidophilus or other probiotics or a yeast program such as> Harmony Formula=s Candida Program. May require oral Nystatin 5 cc 3> times/day if ever on antibiotics, and may require Diflucan 200 mg a dayfor> 10-14 days if liver function tests are normal and you are not on any> medicines which should not be taken with Diflucan. Ask your physician orDr.> Kolb if you feel you have candidiasis. IV therapies are alsoavailable> for candidiasis.>> 9. For patients with longer and more severe silicone exposure, werecommend:> Intravenous therapy to include trace minerals and vitamins to help restore> missing nutrients and hydroxylate the crystallized silicate in the tissueso> it can more readily be eliminated. We recommend IV therapy twice a weekfor> four weeks. Transfusion time is 1 2 hours. Cost is $75 per IV treatment.For> more toxic patients, IV treatment with a membrane stabilizer once a dayx14> days then 3 times per week for 2 weeks.>> 10. Endermologie for tissue lymphedema. Cost is $85 per treatment.> This is a physical means of clearing the lymphatics, especially of theupper> extremities and chest wall, which may be blocked by silicone. Lymphatic> massage may also be helpful.>> 11. Hypnotherapy to deal with the anger.> Women often feel angry due to the circumstances surrounding the breast> implants or due to the lack of sensitivity of the medical community to the> patient=s illness. Anger is a toxic emotion that can block the healing> process, and hypnotherapy is an effective means to release the anger so> healing can proceed.>> 12. Additional nutritional therapies:> In addition to thymic factors and vitamin formulas, we recommend> anti-inflammatory nutrients such as grape seed extract and Pycnogenol.Beta> 1.3 D Glucan (Beta Gold) may also be effective as an immune systemenhancer.> Super Malic 8-12 per day is effective in the treatment of fibromyalgia.Aloe> vera juice 3oz 3 times per day. DHEA supplementation if deficient in DHEA.> Melatonin supplementation for sleep disorders.>> 13. Modified fasting:> A fast lasting one to three days using vegetable broth and organic diluted> apple juice combined with oral aloe vera gel (2 cup a day) to cleanse the> colon.>> 14. Colon Cleansing.> Used as an adjunct to fasting to cleanse the lower colon of toxins. Colon> therapists are available. Coffee enemas to assist the liverdetoxification.