Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I can't recommend any, but I trust you'll do your homework before ordering.... You really have to be careful of allot of the pharmacies outside of the US. The laws are different and the strengths can be measured differently. Not to mention they are not monitored by the FDA. Medication Can anybody recommend a Canadian online pharmacy?Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Try emailing bruce@.... Bruce Greenberg spoke to a group of senior citizens at California State University, Long Beach, about buying drugs from Canada. He assured everyone that the meds were the same as those issued by U.S. pharmacies. You can email him for particulars including prices. Some drugs are not available and he'll let you know which ones. I have NOT personally used his service and therefore CANNOT VOUCH for him. Several seniors in the group did order drugs through his company and were very satisfied. He warned everyone not to trust Mexican pharmacies because of counterfeit drugs being marketed there. His assurance of Canadian pharmacies is because of Canada's similar pharmaceutical laws. The way it works is that your physician writes a prescription which Bruce's company forwards to Canada. A Canadian physician has to rewrite the prescription since they do not fill American prescriptions. The pharmacy then ships the drugs directly to the patient. At least that's what he said. I asked about the legality of this business and he said that was an unresolved issue. U.S. pharmaceuticals are pressuring the Congress to stop foreign prescriptions. It means a huge loss of income to them. We pay the most for prescription drugs. Pharmaceutical companies say it is to cover the cost of R & D but they fail to mention that the government grants millions of dollars for research. We, the taxpayers, foot that bill. Believe me, pharmaceutical companies are making money hand over fist. Mike > [Original Message] > From: prelda <prelda@...> > < > > Date: 8/22/2004 4:41:18 PM > Subject: Medication > > Can anybody recommend a Canadian online pharmacy? > > > > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at > http://www.ZapLife.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 > > Pharmaceutical companies say it is to cover the cost of > R & D You know, I've always wondered why we Americans are supposedly footing the entire R & D bill. If it were true that that's why they cost so much, shouldn't the same drug cost the same amount in Canada too??? Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Other countries have price controls on the drugsBridget <rumplegroups@...> wrote: > > Pharmaceutical companies say it is to cover the cost of> R & D You know, I've always wondered why we Americans are supposedly footing the entire R & D bill. If it were true that that's why they cost so much, shouldn't the same drug cost the same amount in Canada too??? BridgetPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I believe Canada has price controls. > [Original Message] > From: Bridget <rumplegroups@...> > < > > Date: 8/23/2004 7:39:14 AM > Subject: Re: Medication > > > > > Pharmaceutical companies say it is to cover the cost of > > R & D > > You know, I've always wondered why we Americans are supposedly > footing the entire R & D bill. If it were true that that's why they > cost so much, shouldn't the same drug cost the same amount in Canada > too??? > > Bridget > > > > > > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at > http://www.ZapLife.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 My dd has been on a few different meds. With her, it seemed that they had the opposite effect of what they were designed to do. Each child is different, however, remember that our kids chemical balance in the brain is much different than the norm. I do have friends who've put their kids on meds and they can see tons of differences, some of these kids have been through the "guinea pig" med game in order to find one that works for them. It all depends on what your family is ready to dive into. I would question a teacher that recommends meds. Teachers in my area that recommend meds, usually do so to make their jobs easier, it's not for the benefit of the child. Karyn, Mom to 4.10 yoa, dx'd severely autistic, hypotonia, APD, GF/CF, SCD 10 mths "I hope that there is a special place in Heaven for any child who's life on Earth was Hell, and a special place in Hell for those who made it so!!" K. Blanco Medication My 6 year old grandson has been diagnosed on the autism spectrum (probably asperger but currently PDD). His teacher is indicating she thinks medication will help. My daughter is opposed. Is anyone's child on medication such as adderall or concertra and if so, do you notice any difference? The main thing the teacher is hoping the medication will do is calm him enough to be able to participate in the therapy sessions. Not that the medication is a cure but a help.What are your thoughts?Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 My son was on Focalin and Ritalin and both had negative effects. My son started to have these emotional meltdowns. Meltdowns would usually occur maybe once in a few months, but he was having them everyday after being on them about 3 days. But every child is very different and I have heard just as manny success stories as well. I will say this much, a teacher really should not be suggesting that a student be put on medication. I work in the school system and that is frowned upon. Now a teacher could suggest to the parents to seek the opinion of a doctor, but not to out right say "Your child needs to be on medication." To say a child needs to be on medication is to say that they have been diagnosed with as condition that requires it. And a teacher cannot "diagnose" a child. Seek outside "medical opinion" and don't rely on what your teacher's opinion is to be the end-to-all for your child. HEard Karyn <klmitch@...> wrote: My dd has been on a few different meds. With her, it seemed that they had the opposite effect of what they were designed to do. Each child is different, however, remember that our kids chemical balance in the brain is much different than the norm. I do have friends who've put their kids on meds and they can see tons of differences, some of these kids have been through the "guinea pig" med game in order to find one that works for them. It all depends on what your family is ready to dive into. I would question a teacher that recommends meds. Teachers in my area that recommend meds, usually do so to make their jobs easier, it's not for the benefit of the child. Karyn, Mom to 4.10 yoa, dx'd severely autistic, hypotonia, APD, GF/CF, SCD 10 mths "I hope that there is a special place in Heaven for any child who's life on Earth was Hell, and a special place in Hell for those who made it so!!" K. Blanco Medication My 6 year old grandson has been diagnosed on the autism spectrum (probably asperger but currently PDD). His teacher is indicating she thinks medication will help. My daughter is opposed. Is anyone's child on medication such as adderall or concertra and if so, do you notice any difference? The main thing the teacher is hoping the medication will do is calm him enough to be able to participate in the therapy sessions. Not that the medication is a cure but a help.What are your thoughts?Becky__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 My eight year-old has been on several medications over the years and for the past two years has been on a good mix of risperdal, trileptal and concerta. We recently increased the concerta and had the problems with the meltdowns but when we dialed the dosage back a little they disappeared. Apparently many of our kids can get by with a much lower dosage than the general population. While it is true that teachers often seem to push medications more than others, I have to say that we have been VERY happy with the results that we have gotten, and I was VERY opposed to them at first. I finally changed my mind when I was pregnant with my 4 year- old and I was worried about my safety with a child who was constantly having explosive meltdowns. It was difficult to find the right meds and the right dosage, but it has made all the difference in Nico's life and in our family's life. Of course, I hope he will be able to come off of some, if not all, of them one day, but in the mean time I am thankful that we have no serious side effects and that our current meds have not lost their effectiveness. Stacey > My dd has been on a few different meds. With her, it seemed that they had the opposite effect of what they were designed to do. Each child is different, however, remember that our kids chemical balance in the brain is much different than the norm. I do have friends who've put their kids on meds and they can see tons of differences, some of these kids have been through the " guinea pig " med game in order to find one that works for them. > > It all depends on what your family is ready to dive into. I would question a teacher that recommends meds. Teachers in my area that recommend meds, usually do so to make their jobs easier, it's not for the benefit of the child. > > Karyn, Mom to 4.10 yoa, dx'd severely autistic, hypotonia, APD, GF/CF, SCD 10 mths > > " I hope that there is a special place in Heaven for any child who's life on Earth was Hell, and > a special place in Hell for those who made it so!! " K. Blanco > Medication > > > > My 6 year old grandson has been diagnosed on the autism spectrum > (probably asperger but currently PDD). His teacher is indicating > she thinks medication will help. My daughter is opposed. Is > anyone's child on medication such as adderall or concertra and if > so, do you notice any difference? The main thing the teacher is > hoping the medication will do is calm him enough to be able to > participate in the therapy sessions. Not that the medication is a > cure but a help. > What are your thoughts? > Becky > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 With some children on the autism spectrum, it's not a question of whether they can pay attention, but a question of tuning into their special interests. Many can pay attention for literally hours if the teacher or parent connects through whatever is driving the child's interest at the moment. I remember a few years ago hearing about teaching math by dividing Pokemon cards, for instance. It's also possible that some kinds of movement could be allowed " while " the child is concentrating. My daughter always jiggled her left knee -- really hard and annoyingly -- when she was concentrating. She's working on a master's degree now, and she still jiggles away while she is working on her assignments. Movements like this are referred to as " stims " , and serve a purpose for people who can't just sit still and concentrate on demand. Patty rfholcom wrote: > My 6 year old grandson has been diagnosed on the autism spectrum > (probably asperger but currently PDD). His teacher is indicating > she thinks medication will help. My daughter is opposed. Is > anyone's child on medication such as adderall or concertra and if > so, do you notice any difference? The main thing the teacher is > hoping the medication will do is calm him enough to be able to > participate in the therapy sessions. Not that the medication is a > cure but a help. > What are your thoughts? > Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 If you go to the following link, you will find a report compiled by the Autism Research Institute on biomedical interventions for children with autism. The report is based on parent observation. ARI has been around for years and has enough parents available to collect what i consider to be significant data. I would like to say, though, that as someone who has been doing this for awhile now, you will see chelation as remarkably effective. It may be, but it is also as popular right now as secretin is. I was around during the secretin discovery, tried it, and yes i saw results. But, I realize that sometimes we need to see results, and that new " cures " will often be seen as effective in the beginning. Chelation has been around a long time, and does work for what it is designed for, of course. I'm even willing to try it, almost. The anti-fungals on the list also show quite a bit of effectiveness, and i do believe that they work. I do not, however, think that we know how to use them to effectively treat candida yeast. We did nystatin a little over a year ago. It was an every day dose. It did help dd, but the longer she was on it, the more bad behaviors. To me, this indicates that by the very nature of what nystatin does, it can be overdone, as easily as underdone. Our bodies are supposed to have some things in them, and i think candida yeast serves a purpose, but when an overgrowth occurs, it harms some kids. On the other side of that coin it makes sense that if the candida yeast was completely killed off, perhaps there is something else that becomes overabundant because the candida yeast is no longer available for it's purpose. Medications are something we waited until after the age of 6 for, except for secretin...i was caught up in the " cure " aspect, and did it anyway. I've developed the opinion that even that " cure " must be administered differently if it is to be used over time, because a big push of a drug one time is not the same as correcting the missing agent's avaiability in the body long term. I personally hoped that the use of the secretin cream would show results larger that it has, but there again, even though it is able to be released slowly and transdermally, it is not the same as making it available in the organ it was meant to occur in. We've used some various medications, but dd reacts badly to most. I dont even consider it to be just a reaction to the medicines, but maybe some of the fillers that make medication deliverable in the body, because i have trouble with some meds as well, and the only common denominator would have to be the fillers, or dyes, because the active ingredient varies. A tip on meds. NEVER get a full prescription! I've lost lots of money on meds that no one could even take after the first 7 days! Anyway, here's the link i told you about an hour ago***blushing***: http://www.autism.com/ari/specialinterest/form34q.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Hi Becky, We had a success with Adderall. My child was in danger of losing his inclusion placement at about the age your grandson is, so we decided to give it a try and it worked. He improved in all areas. We found a good match pretty quickly but have since tried to switch to extended release version of Adderall and Concerta and it was very bad. Also, the generic of Adderall was very, very bad for him. I have since heard that a lot of kids don't do well with extended release meds. So, if they decide he really needs it, don't give up after the first try. Now, I am trying some biomed stuff to help him be able to do without it someday. We have not had to raise his dosage for a long time so I'm thinking maturation may be helping some, too. Good luck with the decision. On Nov 13, 2004, at 11:21 AM, rfholcom wrote: > > > My 6 year old grandson has been diagnosed on the autism spectrum > (probably asperger but currently PDD). His teacher is indicating > she thinks medication will help. My daughter is opposed. Is > anyone's child on medication such as adderall or concertra and if > so, do you notice any difference? The main thing the teacher is > hoping the medication will do is calm him enough to be able to > participate in the therapy sessions. Not that the medication is a > cure but a help. > What are your thoughts? > Becky > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 >As a nurse and a lawyer, i think it is outrageous for a teacher to suggest such a thing. First off, concerta and ritalin, etc., does not typically help these children but can make things worse. (i know i have tried them for my autistic daughter since my adhd sone was on them). I still cannot believe the teacher suggested this. terry poling > From: " rfholcom " <kholcomb@...> > Date: 2004/11/13 Sat PM 04:21:43 GMT > autism > Subject: Medication > > > > My 6 year old grandson has been diagnosed on the autism spectrum > (probably asperger but currently PDD). His teacher is indicating > she thinks medication will help. My daughter is opposed. Is > anyone's child on medication such as adderall or concertra and if > so, do you notice any difference? The main thing the teacher is > hoping the medication will do is calm him enough to be able to > participate in the therapy sessions. Not that the medication is a > cure but a help. > What are your thoughts? > Becky > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Owen's teacher suggested meds, too. He's not even 4 yet. In a message dated 11/15/2004 9:19:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, autism writes: Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:31:29 +0000 From: <terrypoling@...>Subject: Re: Medication>As a nurse and a lawyer, i think it is outrageous for a teacher to suggest such a thing. First off, concerta and ritalin, etc., does not typically help these children but can make things worse. (i know i have tried them for my autistic daughter since my adhd sone was on them). I still cannot believe the teacher suggested this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 My daughter's DDK teacher suggested meds too. We have since switched her to another school and teacher. Re: Medication>As a nurse and a lawyer, i think it is outrageous for a teacher to suggest such a thing. First off, concerta and ritalin, etc., does not typically help these children but can make things worse. (i know i have tried them for my autistic daughter since my adhd sone was on them). I still cannot believe the teacher suggested this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 I am new to the group and wanted to share a little about myself before replying. I have a 19 yr old child with special needs. He does not have Autism, however I have worked with children in the spectrum since early 1997( In the public and private school setting as well as in the home.) My first question would be is the school staff meeting the child's sensory needs? It has been my experience that meds are the first thing to pop up in the teachers heads, without thinking about the individual child and their unique needs. 99% of the children that I have worked with are seeking to have their sensory needs met and once their sensory needs are being met the child will be able to focus and stay in his or her seat and remain on task. (A Sensory Diet) I have also found that meds such as adderall tend to have the adverse effect on children with Autism. I would only consider meds as an absolute last resort. As for the teacher suggesting meds- they were way out of line. They are supposed to be there to educate our children not diagnose and medicate. Re: Medication>As a nurse and a lawyer, i think it is outrageous for a teacher to suggest such a thing. First off, concerta and ritalin, etc., does not typically help these children but can make things worse. (i know i have tried them for my autistic daughter since my adhd sone was on them). I still cannot believe the teacher suggested this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Teachers are not supposed to recommend meds- ever. Concerning Adderall ( standard not time-release), my son does very well with it. Of course, he is on a very low dose, as most SN kids are poor metabolizers of medications, and also cannot handle any type of time-release medication either .. -Camden. I have also found that meds such as adderall tend to have the adverse effect on children with Autism. I would only consider meds as an absolute last resort. As for the teacher suggesting meds- they were way out of line. They are supposed to be there to educate our children not diagnose and medicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 --- In achalasia , " " <techangel1972@y...> Hi - I have not taken Levsin but I just for the first time took NuLev - in tablet form that you allow to disolve on your tongue. I've only taken it twice and only half a tablet each time. I found it made me slightly 'foggy' and tired but that's it. The spasm went away after about 5 min or so and I was able to function for the rest of my day. Once I have my baby and I'm done nursing - I wouldn't hesitate to even take a full tab. The side effects were minimal compared to other meds I've tried and I felt it was very effective. Good Luck Happy Swallowing! in Va. > > Hi all. I have a question. Right now I am taking Ametryptaline (low > dose antidepressent) for my spasms. It doesn't seem to be working > much anymore. I have Levsin drops that I've never taken due to the > fact of all the crappy side effects. Does anyone else take Levsin? > Does it work? What side effects do you have? I swear my spasms have > been getting worse....Its driving me nuts!!!!!! > And if not Levsin, what about something else? Any suggestions from > anyone? That way I can bring it up to my doctor and see if he can > get me a prescription for something else. And I simply can't swallow > pills. So it must be in liquid form or tablets that I am able to > crush. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Thank you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Zoloft. 25mg daily She also takes digestive enzymes, (non rx) which help immensely. (She was diagnosed with Encopresis a few years ago). ~Penny ~ JAX Management, Inc. http://www.jaxmgt.com Furthering the cause of Autism Awareness From: Carlson [mailto:cathykay@...] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:35 PM AutismBehavior Subject: Medication >Since she's been on medication, she's been able to go to school without fear and live a more independent life.< Would you mind sharing what medication she is on? I would appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 My daughter was put on Risperdal 0.25mg but we had to stop because it caused her hands to swell and itch real bad! She also has asthma and I noticed her needing her inhaler more often but once we stopped the meds it has cleared up. I also dont like the idea that it can cause " lactating " these girls have enough issues!! Shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Tara: My son was on .25 mg of Risperdal and it helped him greatly, I wish we were still on it sometimes! It helped a lot with his anger regarding his anxiety, helped him get to sleep at night, it just helped. As for the other, maybe someone else can give you information on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Hi, Tara. I have two daughters with OCD and have it myself. My youngest one, , was diagnosed at seven and two years later my oldest one, Hannah, was diagnosed at eleven. has been taking Risperdal for about three years now and it has helped her to be more calm than she is without it. She just recently went from a dose of .25 to .5 a day. In addition to the Risperdal, she also takes Luvox for the OCD and Clonidine to help her to fall asleep at night. My other daughter takes Luvox and Abilify. I have no experience with the other med you asked about. Kelley in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Kelley Is it possible for you to tell me how it affects you now-the ocd. It gets me so discouraged at times that my ds will have this forever. I just need to know and hear from ppl who have " lived through it " and can function. When the days are good it is so wonderful but times when it is raging seems just so hopeless. Thanks:) Lynne From: kelleydinkins@... Reply- Subject: Re: Medication Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:13:16 EDT Hi, Tara. I have two daughters with OCD and have it myself. My youngest one, , was diagnosed at seven and two years later my oldest one, Hannah, was diagnosed at eleven. has been taking Risperdal for about three years now and it has helped her to be more calm than she is without it. She just recently went from a dose of .25 to .5 a day. In addition to the Risperdal, she also takes Luvox for the OCD and Clonidine to help her to fall asleep at night. My other daughter takes Luvox and Abilify. I have no experience with the other med you asked about. Kelley in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Hi , call clos. That's the only way to make sure. They are there for you. Suzanne H. Dr. R 7-17-03 High Point 270-170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I have....Ms. Debbie ( the nurse) told me to ask Dr. Rutledge.....I have e-mailed him about this several times but he has not e-mailed me back. I am just so afraid of making CLOS mad..... Thanks though. Sincerely, luv2gab2@... wrote: Hi , call clos. That's the only way to make sure. They are there for you. Suzanne H. Dr. R 7-17-03 High Point 270-170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Hi ... have you ever called Dr. Rutledge? I know he supervised your surgery with Dr. , I think you said, so he is the most likely person to follow you. You can also ask Debbie P. to track Dr. R. down if you're having trouble. I copy Debbie P. when I email my doc, so she knows where I'm at all the time. Keep on top of it! hugs Kim Knippers <prayerwarrior02@...> wrote:I have....Ms. Debbie ( the nurse) told me to ask Dr. Rutledge.....I have e-mailed him about this several times but he has not e-mailed me back. I am just so afraid of making CLOS mad..... Thanks though. Sincerely, luv2gab2@... wrote: Hi , call clos. That's the only way to make sure. They are there for you. Suzanne H. Dr. R 7-17-03 High Point 270-170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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