Conferences

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Ilene,

Here is a site for Teen OCD information. On it you will find a supportive

and working list for teens. The list is monitored by Dr. Jim Hatton (Dr.

Hat) and at least one parent(?). http://www.angelfire.com/il/TeenOCD/

The conference we are mentioning is the Obsessive-Compulsive Foundation

Annual Conference. This year it is outside of Chicago. Kathy H and myself

are presenting a workshop on parenting children with OCD. Dr. Tamar Chansky

will also be presenting. There are lots of activities this year for kids

with ocd, adults with ocd, as well as for support people and professionals.

http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocf1120b.htm

I hope this has been helpful,

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In a message dated 05/25/2002 12:54:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

philip@... writes:

>

> I hope that by writing a book revealing the fraud of multiple sclerosis the

> PUBLIC will be informed about the denial of oxygen. It needs this kind of

> expose.

>

Philip.... Not to be nosey or anything but what is the story about the fraud

of MS?

Kessler-

[Guest guest]

Dear philip,

I am not sure that frequent conferences on the Internet would benefit those

in need, but I think of NATO and the elevation of knowledge by extensive and

face to face conferencing, exercises, testing weapons, until after a few

years most of our military leaders became aware of their partners

capabilities, even if they themselves lacked similar or comparable

capabilities.

The ignorance about HBOT as we both know is appalling. I spend months , 5 or

6 just trying to assemble and codify the indications of the leading

hyperbaric nations. I was talking to Dr. Neubauer about the value of

exchange of knowledge and mentioned that France had success with prostate

cancer and He expressed complete surprise and said he would like a copy of my

e-mail which listed this indication. Now I have lost the French list of

indications., but still searching. If i could recall who sent the list I

would simply request another copy. Macular Degeneration is another

indication mentioned by a few countries and quite a number simply use UHMS as

their bible. I just downloaded 500 international HBO clinics from

HBOMEDTODAY's website, mostly all U.S. but a considerable number from around

the world. This should be helpful in pulling info together which should be

known and helpful to all. It may be that K.K. Jain's textbook has all this

info but the last i heard it was $900.00 per copy..

No philip I surely do not associate motion with progress and all these

meetings for the past 35 years do not add up to much progress. The curtaim

is not iron around HBOT, but it is virtually impenetrable. I could speculate

on why nothing happens after a meeting but it would only be just that

speculation. I know it is slow and difficult to get a transcript and it

takes as long to watch a video as it would have to attend the conference.

I am in touch with Mrs. LBJ's staff and they wanted to see a copy of my

wife's recent news feature. Lucy is involved in studying. You know i tried

to get Lloyd Benson in early but because the atmosphere remains so poisoned

with bias and self interest it didn't happen for about 2 years and I still

don't know the results of the 35 treatments. I regard withholding vital

information that might save or help others as medical terrorism.. All the

best,

[Guest guest]

Dear Philip,

I am sure you know that Sen. Wellstone from Minnesota is now in the first

phase of MS and I sent him a copy of the chopter in Dr. Neubauer's book

dealing with MS. I believe Dr. Bill Duncan knows about all this. Hope your

book is about ready. Yes, I will contact UHMS as you suggest. All the best,

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. , will you be in SF this year? I plan on attending this meeting.

Also, When will the book be out?

[Guest guest]

Philip I sent in a paper on HBOT in Cancer Care for the SF meeting.

Let me know if it was not received. also did you see my e-mail on

SPECT brain scans? Bill

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Originally From: " Philip "

<philip@...>

Subject: [ ] Conferences

Date: 05/25/2002 05:49pm

Captain Manson wrote

> The thing that impresses me abut this discussion is that we have

doctors

> from distant nations discussing therapies which have proved

effective for

> decades. Computers and the Internet have made this possible.

>

> International medical conferences are urgently needed so that each

nation

can

> benefit from other nations. No nation has an absolute lock on the

best

> medical solution for a particular disease.

Dear

I am sorry to disagree with you yet again but we have had

international

conferences to discuss hyperbaric medicine since 1964 (Boerema's First

International Congress on Hyperbaric Medicine in Amsterdam) These

meetings

have been held every 3 or 4 years around the World. The next is

scheduled

for October 2-5 in San Francisco. I am on the programme committee and

to

date 24 papers have been submitted 17 of which are Chinese where, like

Japan, using high levels of oxygen is not controversial.

The UMS/UHMS has had an annual meeting every year since the 1970's

and we

have been going backwards - see the UMS Hyperbaric Committee report

for 1986

(Don Chandler at UHMS who is an ex USN master diver may have a copy).

I hope that by writing a book revealing the fraud of multiple

sclerosis the

PUBLIC will be informed about the denial of oxygen. It needs this

kind of

expose.

All the best

Philip

Dr P B MB ChB DIH PhD FFOM

Wolfson Hyperbaric Medicine Unit

University of Dundee

[Guest guest]

Calle,

There are many conferences held in the US on AIDS but, few dealing with AIDS and it's impact on Black women. And why not a conference on AIDS in the us where AIDS among African-American women is at epidemic proportions?

Anyway, FYI the Sisters for Life Conference is not "About AIDS." Where did you get that notion? But, perhaps we should look at organizing a conference on AIDS in the future.

Our gathering is much, much more that a conference. Perhaps you might visit our website when you have a moment to really spend some time reviewing it.

But the best way to get the best understanding possible is to attend it. I'm sure they'd love to have your imput.

FYI: The International AIDS conference is in Bangkok this year. I suppose since people all over the world are infected and impacted by AIDS, it may be easy for many to think only of Africa when they think of AIDS. But, again, people are suffering around the world and especially women of African descent and their children from the impact of AIDS. The all have a right to try whatever that can to fight it and if they choose to meet wherever in the world, it is their right, no?

Mia

[Guest guest]

I have been asking myself the same questions for a long time. What

expertise on HIV/AIDS in Africa is to be found in the US that is not

available in Africa? And even if some important experts do indeed

live in the US would it not be more cost effective to invite them to a

conference in Africa? If indeed the conferences are about

exchange of information, would it not be more useful to have the

majority of the groups coming from Africa and the minority from the

`North´: US, Europe etc, if the focus of the conference is AIDS in

Africa. Or is it all about money and power. If a US based

organisation is going to hold a conference, then the money has to

be used there in the US even if the conference would have more

impact if held where the problem is.

It looks like giving with one hand and taking with the other.

It is indeed quite baffling.

Muthoni

On 19 Mar 2004 at 9:00, Almedal, Calle wrote:

>

> I am baffled by the fact that there are Conferences organised in the United

States on

> HIV/AIDS in Africa.

> A part from being sceptical against conferences in general (what concrete

achievements

> spring out of them, how are they all connected one to an other, what

activities benefiting

> what target groups are results of conferences?) I would think that one would

get more

> value for money if gatherings were organised in Africa.

> Perhaps I am off the wall here.

> Calle

>

>

>

> http://www./group/

> http://www./group/aids-africa (a group made up of Africans

> worldwide)

> Join Digital Africa- an information technology group that discusses IT in

Africa

> at http://www./group/digafrica

>

>

>

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In a message dated 3/19/2004 7:31:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, mathai@... writes:

Muthoni

Dear Muthoni.

The positive thing about this forum is that it gives the participants and opportunity to dialogue, enlighten and educate one another. Allow me to give you my opinion on the questions you asked.

There is likely more expertise and knowledge with regard to responding to HIV/AIDS in Africa that can be found in the US and particularly in Black America. In fact, I compare the situation of AIDS in Black America with where Africa was 20 years ago. The silence, stigma, denial and apathy to AIDS among Africans born in America and African-Americans is prevalent. Clearly Africans are much farther ahead in this regard than Americans in terms of responding to the disease on the ground.

Even more reason why we need our African brothers and sisters to share their expertise with us. You appear to be under the assumption that we have invited Africans to come to our conference to teach them something.

No, my brother, we are constantly learning from the Africans. We found out at the first SFL Conference that we were clearly the students and we've been listening to and learning from our African brothers and sisters every since.

One of the unique things about our conference is that it is lead by Africans and African-Americans. Look at our steering committees, our speakers and presenters, our workshops and sessions..they are dominated by Africans from the continent and the Caribbean. While I realize that this is a hard thing to believe...it is real. Our conferences are far more that mere conferences. They are powerful, life changing experiences and they are organized by us, and for us! The African people have more influence in the shape of the SFL conference than the American women. Further our conference have been held in Africa, France, Switzerland and now this is the first time for the US. Next year it will likely be in the Caribbean as we attempt to reach all Africans throughout the African Diaspora.

In terms of what is more cost effective, It is often much less inexpensive to travel from Africa to the US than from the US to Africa.

Also, please keep in mind that "all Africans are not poor and struggling" There are many, many successful Africans across the continent. Businessmen and women, professional people, educated working Africans!

Let us not contribute to the myth that Africans just can't make it, they are all poor and just can't take care of themselves or the myth that all African's somehow are looking for handouts!

This is simply not the case! I have stayed in the homes of my African friends that were modest huts, and I have visited friends and colleagues in Africa who have homes that are more bigger and more impressive than anything I've seen in America. Africans travel the world.

I have yet to visit any country in the world..even in China, Hong Kong or Australia where I didn't see Africans there visiting and doing business too. And in Paris, the very expensive shops on the Champs Elysee are filled with African customers.

So, in thinking about the capacity of poor Africans to travel to the US for conferences, it's all relative. Poor African-Americans, and poor Jamaicans cannot afford to travel to Africa either. So should we deny them access to the knowledge, expertise and training that only our African brothers and sitsters can provide them?

The bottom line is that those who can either afford to come or those who receive scholarships to come to the conference will come and those who cannot will be briefed by those who return with whatever resources, knowledge and expertise that they take back to their respective communities and each year we will continue to rotate the conferences so that as many people as possible can attend.

Again, the SFL Conference is not a typical conference by any stretch of the imagination. No only is it a training and resource exchange conference but it also focuses on empowering women of African descent around the world to give them a greater economic capacity to help the orphans and street children in there community.

One more thing, at the end of each SFL conference we take up a cash collection and distribute it evenly amongst our delegates who are poor and or who run programs that need financial support. Often we have placed as much as $900.00 cash dollars into the hands of our needy African delegates at the close our the conference because we cannot see them leave and not be better off than when they came. We cry and hug each other and hold on to each other until the last minute. Can you tell me any other conference in which this takes place?

So, please, don't be baffled. Be thankful and grateful for all the hard work that these "Sisters" are putting in around the world to make the SFL conference a benefit to as many people as possible.

But, don't take my word for it. Attend the conference in September and find out for yourself! You'd be welcomed!

Blessings,

Mia

[Guest guest]

Calle certainly makes sense to me!

Boston, Massachusetts, USA

>From: " Almedal, Calle " <almedalc@...>

>Reply-AIDS treatments

><AIDS treatments >

>Subject: Conferences

>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:00:17 +0100

>

>I am baffled by the fact that there are Conferences organised in the

>United States on HIV/AIDS in Africa.

>A part from being sceptical against conferences in general (what

>concrete achievements spring out of them, how are they all connected one

>to an other, what activities benefiting what target groups are results

>of conferences?) I would think that one would get more value for money

>if gatherings were organised in Africa.

>Perhaps I am off the wall here.

>Calle

>

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>From: sistersforlife@...

>Anyway, FYI the Sisters for Life Conference is not " About AIDS. " Where did

>you get that notion?

Sisters For Life Conference Site says:

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A Global Development Agency

Strengthening the Economic Capacity of Women of African Descent

to Mitigate the Impact of AIDS, War, and Poverty on

Orphans and Street Children

The 5th Annual Sisters for Life International

Training and Development Conference

" Strengthening Our Economic Capacity to Care: Through Education,

International Trade and Resource Exchange Workshops "

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Pardon us, for apparently incorrectly assuming that the conference had

something to do with aids!

Is aids added as a buzzword just to attract attention and support?

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Dear Mia,

I agree with you that many conferences held in USA,but nothing address AIDS among African American Women,I think we need to organize such conference in USA, we are the Founder of Society For Women And AIDS In Africa [sWAA] The Pioneer African Network WorldWide will be more than happay to share with you our concern and to help in organizing such conference,SWAA was founded in 1988 we are in ground for the last 16 years and we have 40 SWAA Branches in Africa We convened 9 International Conferences with different Themes in different 9 counteries in Africa.I think we meet in the next coming international conference on AIDS on Bangkok July 2004 as you suggested,but meanwhile we can exchange views by E mails.

Best Regards and Good luck.Iwill discuss this issue with current SWAA Internaional President.

Dr Fathia A Mahmoud SWAA Founder and First President.Currently Iam SWAA SUDAN President

>From: sistersforlife@... >Reply-AIDS treatments >AIDS treatments >Subject: Re: Conferences >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:01:06 EST > >Calle, > >There are many conferences held in the US on AIDS but, few dealing with AIDS >and it's impact on Black women. And why not a conference on AIDS in the us >where AIDS among African-American women is at epidemic proportions? > >Anyway, FYI the Sisters for Life Conference is not "About AIDS." Where did >you get that notion? But, perhaps we should look at organizing a conference on >AIDS in the future. >Our gathering is much, much more that a conference. Perhaps you might visit >our website when you have a moment to really spend some time reviewing it. > >But the best way to get the best understanding possible is to attend it. I'm >sure they'd love to have your imput. > >FYI: The International AIDS conference is in Bangkok this year. I suppose >since people all over the world are infected and impacted by AIDS, it may be >easy for many to think only of Africa when they think of AIDS. But, again, >people are suffering around the world and especially women of African descent and >their children from the impact of AIDS. The all have a right to try whatever >that can to fight it and if they choose to meet wherever in the world, it is >their right, no? > >Mia STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

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Dear Dr. Mahmoud:

Thanks for your solidarity. We are familiar with your organization as Dr. Ann Pharr, who is the newly elected International Director for Sisters for Life worked with your organization in South Africa.

I will forward your posting to her as I know that she will be happy to hear from you and to work with you.

I am writing you off the public forum because I find that often some men seem to work so hard to put down, destroy and/or dismiss the work of women and our efforts to empower ourselves.

But as sisters we must unite because we are the ones who are dying and our children are the ones being left behind!

With your permission I would love to refer your email to the Conference Coordinating Committee with the suggestion that they not only collaborate with you, but that they also invite you to co-Chair the International Executive Committee for the Conference.

We would also like to invite you as a Keynote Speaker. We would love to partner with your organization in bringing delegates to our conference and in our bringing delegates to your conferences for years to come.

Again, thank you for the courage that you demonstrated in posting message. Often it appears that my views are not always very popular. However, I am not in this struggle for popularity. I on the forum hoping to learn, teach, and network with individuals like yourself who committed to empowering our African Sisters around the world and committed to caring for the millions of children left behind.

Our website is www.sistersforlife.org. Please visit it and we look forward to hearing from you again soon and to welcoming you and the SWAA delegates from across the African continent to our the SFL Conference in the US September 6-11th 2004. We are so proud of you Dr. Mahmoud.

Your Sister for Life!

Mia

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-----Original Message-----From: Almedal, Calle [mailto:almedalc@...]Sent: 19 March 2004 10:00AIDS treatments Subject: Conferences

I am baffled by the fact that there are Conferences organised in the United States on HIV/AIDS in Africa.

A part from being sceptical against conferences in general (what concrete achievements spring out of them, how are they all connected one to an other, what activities benefiting what target groups are results of conferences?) I would think that one would get more value for money if gatherings were organised in Africa.

Perhaps I am off the wall here.

Calle

Not only should the location of the conference be considered but also whether the conference is needed at all.

When the conference aim is studied one can make an informed comment on such matters.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mia,

Thank you for your very kind E mail Message,indeed for us to win the battle we must demonstrate solidarity,unity love and committment for African women childern around the globe,in my sixteen years experinces and committment in providing leadership in a united SWAA,I feel that we still have a lot a head of us to be acomplish,let us join hands and march steady towards the road that will lead to Africa free of HIV|AIDS.Delighted to hear the suggestion to invite me to Co Chair the International Executive Committee for the Conference,and also as a Keynote Speaker,again I thank you for giving this honour.

Best Regards io all of you

Dr Fathia A Mahmoud SWAA Sudan

>From: sistersforlife@... >Reply-AIDS treatments >AIDS treatments >Subject: Re: Conferences >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:56:53 EST > >Dear Dr. Mahmoud: > >Thanks for your solidarity. We are familiar with your organization as Dr. >Ann Pharr, who is the newly elected International Director for Sisters for Life >worked with your organization in South Africa. > >I will forward your posting to her as I know that she will be happy to hear >from you and to work with you. > >I am writing you off the public forum because I find that often some men seem >to work so hard to put down, destroy and/or dismiss the work of women and our >efforts to empower ourselves. > >But as sisters we must unite because we are the ones who are dying and our >children are the ones being left behind! > >With your permission I would love to refer your email to the Conference >Coordinating Committee with the suggestion that they not only collaborate with you, >but that they also invite you to co-Chair the International Executive >Committee for the Conference. > >We would also like to invite you as a Keynote Speaker. We would love to >partner with your organization in bringing delegates to our conference and in our >bringing delegates to your conferences for years to come. > >Again, thank you for the courage that you demonstrated in posting message. >Often it appears that my views are not always very popular. However, I am not >in this struggle for popularity. I on the forum hoping to learn, teach, and >network with individuals like yourself who committed to empowering our African >Sisters around the world and committed to caring for the millions of children >left behind. > >Our website is www.sistersforlife.org. Please visit it and we look forward >to hearing from you again soon and to welcoming you and the SWAA delegates from >across the African continent to our the SFL Conference in the US September >6-11th 2004. We are so proud of you Dr. Mahmoud. > >Your Sister for Life! > >Mia Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online

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Muthoni:

Sorry to have mistaken you for a man. All of the issues you raised are not unique to Africa. African women are suffering here in America, in the Caribbean, in France, England and around the world. As I said earlier and you apparently agree, it is all relative.

Also, your comment that "Most of the Women who are engaged in HIV/AIDS at the grass roots however cannot afford such a trip" is not completely the case. Many of the women involved in the battle against AIDS show up every year to our conferences. Also, many vary poor women come as well and they work to secure partial funding, sometimes we provide their funding, often when they arrive Sisters from developed countries gladly share their hotel rooms with those who cannot afford and absolutely no one goes without food once they arrive. We just all join together and do what we have to do. But, one thing that is unique about our conferences is when they leave, they do not leave empty handed with empty promises and pie in the sky rhetoric. The leave with a plan, and with cash in hand, clothes, and other items that their more fortunate Sisters can supply for them. We come together to take action and that is exactly what we do.

You're right about the Visa's. It's not just in Kenya, it's throughout the African Diaspora. Clearly, this is a very disappointing and disheartening problem and we are working daily to insure that as many Sisters as possible are able to secure their Visa's. We start by sending a list of the requirements supplied by the State Department. The State Department also sends out an alert to the various Embassies alerting them of our conference. While neither we or the US State Department can guarantee that anyone will get a Visa, at least we can try to make the process a bit easier.

You must also understand, that the security in the US is heightened due to the events of 9/11 yet Kenyan's are coming to America every day. We just have to keep praying and taking one step at a time.

Eventually, God willing we will be see the walls and barriers that separate us come down and as those of us who can afford to take the fight to whatever level that we can fight on will, through our combined efforts on all fronts, be victorious in this war.

Thanks for your note and for the exchange of dialogue and information. Your points were as valid as my own and I appreciate your taking the time to write back.

Mia

[Guest guest]

Dear Mia,

First I am a sister not a brother.

My letter about conferences was indeed a very general comment

about Conferences on HIV/AIDS in Africa, and not targeted at SFL's

conference. But I am pleased to hear from you that the conference

from SFL is not about HIV/AIDS in Africa but more about Africans/

African women in diaspora and HIV/AIDS. Thank you for the

information. However I would like to point out that I did not in any

way imply all Africans were poor or try to spread such a myth. I

talked very generally about cost effectiveness with reference only to

conferences about HIV/AIDS in Africa. I know the situation in Africa

very well and I am aware that there are indeed many people who

would have no problems financing themselves for a conference in

the US or elsewhere. Most of the Women who are engaged in

HIV/AIDS at the grass roots however cannot afford such a trip, and

most of them have no organisation backing them up. Many however

have enough to eat, live in a decent house, send their children to

school and infact don't consider themselves poor. Poverty is relative

my sister. One long murdered Kenya politician once said, " there are

10 millionaires in and ten million poor people in Kenya " , the situation

has since become much worse. Africans are indeed not incapable,

but poverty in Africa is also not a myth.

Don't get me wrong , Iam not trying to undermine the efforts of Black

women, who I strongly believe have to work together towards their

empowerment. I don't really know enough about your organisation to

do that. I will however make an effort to find out more. Thank you for

your invitation to come to the conference, I am not poor but I really

cant afford to come. By the way from what I have heard from

friends, ordinary Kenyans have to camp for several days outside the

American embassy to get an American VISA.

Muthoni

On 19 Mar 2004 at 14:38, sistersforlife@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 3/19/2004 7:31:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, mathai@...

writes:

> Muthoni

>

> Dear Muthoni.

>

> The positive thing about this forum is that it gives the participants and

opportunity to dialogue,

> enlighten and educate one another. Allow me to give you my opinion on the

questions you asked.

>

> There is likely moreexpertise and knowledgewith regard to responding to

HIV/AIDS in Africa

> thatcan be found in the US and particularly in Black America.In fact, I

compare the situation of

> AIDS in Black America with where Africa was 20 years ago.The silence, stigma,

denial and

> apathy to AIDS among Africans bornin America and African-Americans is

prevalent.Clearly

> Africans aremuch farther ahead in this regard than Americans in terms

ofresponding to the

> disease on the ground.

>

> Even more reason why we need our African brothers and sisters to share their

expertise with

> us.You appear to be under the assumption that we have invitedAfricans to come

to

> ourconference toteach them something.

>

> No, my brother, weare constantly learning from the Africans. We found out at

the first SFL

> Conference that we were clearly the students and we've been listening to and

learning from our

> Africanbrothers and sisters every since.

>

> One of the unique things about our conference is that it is lead by Africans

and African-

> Americans. Look at our steering committees, our speakers and presenters, our

workshops and

> sessions..they aredominated by Africans from the continent and the Caribbean.

WhileI realize

> that this is a hard thing to believe...it is real. Our conferences arefar more

that mere

> conferences. They are powerful, life changing experiences and they

areorganized by us, and for

> us! The Africanpeople have more influence in the shapeof the SFL conference

than the

> American women. Further our conference have been held in Africa, France,

Switzerland and now

> this is the first time for the US.Next year it will likely be in the Caribbean

as we attempt to

> reachall Africans throughout theAfrican Diaspora.

>

> In terms of what is more cost effective, It is often much less inexpensive to

travel from Africa to

> the US than from the US to Africa.

>

> Also, please keep in mind that " all Africans are not poor and struggling "

There are

> many,many successful Africans across the continent. Businessmen and women,

> professional people, educated working Africans!

>

> Let us notcontribute to the myththat Africans just can't make it, they are all

poor and just

> can't take care of themselves or themyth thatall African's somehow are looking

for

> handouts!

>

> This is simply not the case! I have stayed in the homes of my African friends

that were modest

> huts, and I have visited friends and colleagues in Africa who have homes that

are more

> bigger and more impressive than anything I've seen in America. Africans travel

the world.

>

> I have yet to visit any country in the world..even in China, Hong Kong or

Australia where I

> didn't see Africans there visiting and doing business too. And in Paris, the

very expensive

> shops on the Champs Elysee are filled with African customers.

>

> So, in thinking about the capacity of poor Africans to travel to the US for

conferences, it's all

> relative. Poor African-Americans, and poor Jamaicans cannot afford totravel to

Africa

> either. Soshould we deny themaccess to the knowledge, expertise and training

that only

> our African brothers and sitsters can provide them?

>

> The bottom line is that those who can either afford to come or those who

receive

> scholarships to come to the conference will come and those who cannot will be

briefed by

> those who return with whatever resources, knowledge and expertise that they

take back to

> their respective communities and each year we will continue to rotate the

conferences so that

> as many people as possible can attend.

>

> Again, the SFL Conference is not a typical conference by any stretch of the

imagination. No

> only is it a training and resource exchange conference but it also focuses on

empowering

> women of African descent around the world to give them a greater economic

capacity to help

> the orphans and street children in there community.

>

> One more thing, at the end of each SFL conference we take up a cash collection

and

> distribute it evenly amongst our delegates who are poor and or who run

programs that

> need financial support. Often we have placed as much as $900.00 cash dollars

into the

> hands of our needy African delegates at the close our the conference because

we cannot

> see them leave and not be better off than when they came. We cry and hug each

other and

> hold on to each other until the last minute. Can you tell me any other

conference in which

> this takes place?

>

> So, please, don't be baffled. Be thankful and grateful for all the hard work

that these

> " Sisters " are putting in around the world to make the SFL conference a benefit

to as many

> people as possible.

>

> But, don't take my word for it. Attend the conference in September and find

out for

> yourself! You'd be welcomed!

>

> Blessings,

>

> Mia

>

>

>

>

> http://www./group/

> http://www./group/aids-africa (a group made up of Africans

> worldwide)

> Join Digital Africa- an information technology group that discusses IT in

Africa

> at http://www./group/digafrica

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

In light of all the dialogue on AIDS conferences (on Africa) being held in the US, I just thought I might offer this other side. While I do agree that conferences of this nature are probably more beneficial if held in Africa, there is a need for them to be held elsewhere. Why do I say that? Because I, for instance, stand to gain for them.

I am involved in issues relating to AIDS but live in the US where I hold down a full time job. As much as I would to take extended periods of time off work to attend such conferences, I can't as I would definitely get fired, sooner or later. Being able to attend a 2-3 day US-based conference is for me, more feasible. And I know I am not the only one!

So while I understand the skepticism, I'd like you to consider the other side too.

Mwende

[Guest guest]

Two questions here I think may give a clue.

Where are the richest of the african delegates likely to be found?

And how much easier is it to donate to the organising charity at home than

to try to find ways to make it tax deductible overseas?

I am only asking the questions.

Geoff Heaviside

Convenor - Brimbank Community Initiatives Inc

Secretary - International Centre for Health Equity Inc

P.O. Box 606 Sunshine 3020

. Australia.

Ph: 0418 328 278

Ph/Fax : (61 3) 9449 1856

or in India

Mr Geoff Heaviside

Mobile : (91) 9840 097 178 (Only when in India)

" Concern for what is right causes us to do our best - Knowledge of what is

best inspires us to do what is right. "

>From: mathai@...

>Reply-AIDS treatments

>AIDS treatments

>Subject: Re: Conferences

>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:18:34 +0100

>

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I have been asking myself the same questions for a long time. What

expertise on HIV/AIDS in Africa is to be found in the US that is not

available in Africa? And even if some important experts do indeed

live in the US would it not be more cost effective to invite them to a

conference in Africa? If indeed the conferences are about

exchange of information, would it not be more useful to have the

majority of the groups coming from Africa and the minority from the

`North´: US, Europe etc, if the focus of the conference is AIDS in

Africa. Or is it all about money and power. If a US based

organisation is going to hold a conference, then the money has to

be used there in the US even if the conference would have more

impact if held where the problem is.

It looks like giving with one hand and taking with the other.

It is indeed quite baffling.

Muthoni

On 19 Mar 2004 at 9:00, Almedal, Calle wrote:

>

> I am baffled by the fact that there are Conferences organised in the United States on

> HIV/AIDS in Africa.

> A part from being sceptical against conferences in general (what concrete achievements

> spring out of them, how are they all connected one to an other, what activities benefiting

> what target groups are results of conferences?) I would think that one would get more

> value for money if gatherings were organised in Africa.

> Perhaps I am off the wall here.

> Calle

>

>

>

> http://www./group/

> http://www./group/aids-africa (a group made up of Africans

> worldwide)

> Join Digital Africa- an information technology group that discusses IT in Africa

> at http://www./group/digafrica

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have determined not to go to the bangkok international AIDS fest because

it will take all my budget for this year's travel to india and east africa.

I think that the budget for this conference will be enough to provide a

whole country with anti retrovirals as well. I might try to link with the

satellites to see if there is anyone that attends who is allowed to speak or

even called on to ask or answer questions in electives or plenaries.

In Nairobi we had to threaten the chairs of the various electives to look

for and be aware of youth delegates when question time came and then it was

only done begrudgingly.

All the people I know who might benefit from attendance are not getting a

look in. In fact in one african country, staff who deliver services have

been faced with demotion if they even ask for sponsorship as all the

Directors General and their entourage are looking forward to a Bangkok

experience.

Geoff Heaviside

Convenor - Brimbank Community Initiatives Inc

Secretary - International Centre for Health Equity Inc

P.O. Box 606 Sunshine 3020

. Australia.

Ph: 0418 328 278

Ph/Fax : (61 3) 9449 1856

or in India

Mr Geoff Heaviside

Mobile : (91) 9840 097 178 (Only when in India)

" Concern for what is right causes us to do our best - Knowledge of what is

best inspires us to do what is right. "

>From: mathai@...

>Reply-AIDS treatments

>AIDS treatments

>Subject: Re: Conferences

>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:18:34 +0100

>

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I have been asking myself the same questions for a long time. What

expertise on HIV/AIDS in Africa is to be found in the US that is not

available in Africa? And even if some important experts do indeed

live in the US would it not be more cost effective to invite them to a

conference in Africa? If indeed the conferences are about

exchange of information, would it not be more useful to have the

majority of the groups coming from Africa and the minority from the

`North´: US, Europe etc, if the focus of the conference is AIDS in

Africa. Or is it all about money and power. If a US based

organisation is going to hold a conference, then the money has to

be used there in the US even if the conference would have more

impact if held where the problem is.

It looks like giving with one hand and taking with the other.

It is indeed quite baffling.

Muthoni

On 19 Mar 2004 at 9:00, Almedal, Calle wrote:

>

> I am baffled by the fact that there are Conferences organised in the United States on

> HIV/AIDS in Africa.

> A part from being sceptical against conferences in general (what concrete achievements

> spring out of them, how are they all connected one to an other, what activities benefiting

> what target groups are results of conferences?) I would think that one would get more

> value for money if gatherings were organised in Africa.

> Perhaps I am off the wall here.

> Calle

>

>

>

> http://www./group/

> http://www./group/aids-africa (a group made up of Africans

> worldwide)

> Join Digital Africa- an information technology group that discusses IT in Africa

> at http://www./group/digafrica

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It looks like the next AG Bell Conference is in 2006 in Pittsburgh per their

website.

Here is the information I found.

June 23-27, 2006

Begin planning for the

2006 AG Bell Convention

in Pittsburgh, PA!

Westin Convention Center

(Or space available at the Omni Willam Penn and Ramada Plaza Suites)

Alice

>

>

> I know that the SHHH conference is going to be held in D.C. in

> July. Does anyone know of other conferences to be held this

> summer? Where is the AG Bell conference this year? Is it in

> Anaheim, CA? (please, please, please....)

> Beth

>

>

[Guest guest]

The AGBell conference was held last June in Anaheim, CA. However there is a

Northeast Cochlear Implant Conference being held in Sturbridge, MA during the

weekend of July 16th 2 weeks after the SHHH conference in DC.

Snoopy

[Guest guest]

All you need to do is google ALF.American Liver Foundation and on their pages

you will find their schedule of conferences etc...... Also June 24ththere will

be a PBC/PSC Conference but I would imagine that you can learn a lot there about

AIH. I suggest you email JaniceWetzel@... regarding this. Joanne C.

Dear Past Program Attendees,

I wanted to let you know about our upcoming 2006 PBC/PSC Liver Symposium to be

held on June 24,

2006. ? The program will be hosted at the University of Chicago, Biological

Sciences Learning

Center. ? Please visit http://www.illinois-liver.org/education/public/pbcpsc/

for location and

more program information.

If you would like to attend this year??™s program, please respond to this email

and register!

? Be sure to bring your spouse or caregiver as this year??™s program will

feature a special

segment just for them!

Thank you,

Combs

Program Manager

American Liver Foundation - Illinois Chapter

http://www.illinois-liver.org

180 N. Michigan Ave. Ste 1870

Chicago, IL? 60601

P. 312.377.9030 x13

F. 312.377.9035

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