LIPITOR

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Hello to all, I just joined the group, I live in Canada(TORONTO) and

live off a government subsidy, also my meds are paid from this sub. I

was on LIPITOR but the scrip ran out and my GP was away, when he gets

back the first week he is booked solid. This is probaly good news for

me, no-one told me about any side effects from this drug. Last year I

developed nerve damage in my left hand. It(hand) had no feeling with

baby finger and finger next to that. I was told this was a side effect

of being a diabetic. My GP sent me to a surgen to see about micro-

surgery. In March this was done, it did free up the feeling in my hand,

but I still have pins and needle feeeling in my two fingers, could this

be a problem from using LIPITOR, if so could someone email me. I also

have had aches through my body but just thought it was from different

crashes over the yrs.Does the group recomend me going back on LIPITOR

or should I have my GP scrib something else? I would appreciate any

info on this subject from the group.Bye for now muttlyzoo.

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you may have to travel to Buffalo to get reliable medical treatment for $$$. In Canada you could die till you see a specialistmuttlyzoo <muttlyzoo@...> wrote: Hello to all, I just joined the group, I live in Canada(TORONTO) and live off a government subsidy, also my meds are paid from this sub. I was on LIPITOR but the scrip ran out and my GP was away, when he gets back the first week he is booked solid. This is probaly good news for me, no-one told me about any side effects from this drug. Last year I

developed nerve damage in my left hand. It(hand) had no feeling with baby finger and finger next to that. I was told this was a side effect of being a diabetic. My GP sent me to a surgen to see about micro- surgery. In March this was done, it did free up the feeling in my hand, but I still have pins and needle feeeling in my two fingers, could this be a problem from using LIPITOR, if so could someone email me. I also have had aches through my body but just thought it was from different crashes over the yrs.Does the group recomend me going back on LIPITOR or should I have my GP scrib something else? I would appreciate any info on this subject from the group.Bye for now muttlyzoo.

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H Rosen wrote:

>

> you may have to travel to Buffalo to get reliable medical treatment

> for $$$. In Canada you could die till you see a specialist

>

> */muttlyzoo <muttlyzoo (DOT) ca>/* wrote:

>

> Hello to all, I just joined the group, I live in Canada(TORONTO) and

> live off a government subsidy, also my meds are paid from this sub. I

> was on LIPITOR but the scrip ran out and my GP was away, when he gets

> back the first week he is booked solid. This is probaly good news for

> me, no-one told me about any side effects from this drug. Last year I

> developed nerve damage in my left hand. It(hand) had no feeling with

> baby finger and finger next to that. I was told this was a side

> effect

> of being a diabetic. My GP sent me to a surgen to see about micro-

> surgery. In March this was done, it did free up the feeling in my

> hand,

> but I still have pins and needle feeeling in my two fingers, could

> this

> be a problem from using LIPITOR, if so could someone email me. I also

> have had aches through my body but just thought it was from different

> crashes over the yrs.Does the group recomend me going back on LIPITOR

> or should I have my GP scrib something else? I would appreciate any

> info on this subject from the group.Bye for now muttlyzoo.

>

>

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Hello all,

Are there any Canadian members out there who can verify that it takes

forever to see a specialist in Canada. I hear lots of stories about the

availability of Doctors in Canada. Most Canadians I talk with say they

seldom have to wait long even for a specialist except in rare cases like

for example a heart valve replacement. What is the truth about the

availability of Canadian medicine? Here it typically takes me six weeks

to two months for the first appointment with any specialist. I have HMO

insurance.

Joe

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Hello Joe

I live in Canada. As for waiting to see specilists or any

doctor ....

For me sometimes it has seemed to depend on how good a doctor is.

Last winter I started seeing a Enviromental specialist.She has a long

long waiting list; but then she has patients from all over Canada.

When I phoned and got myself on her 3 year waiting list, I decided

that if I still needed her in 3 years; she would be worth the wait.

I know some of her patients as well as a few former patients. She has

a reputation for getting her patients well; and from what I have seen

in the last 6 months, it is well deserved.

On the otherhand; an internationally famous doctor whom

specializes in M.E. and CFS just doesn't take any patients at all

half the time. Then when he has time for new patients, starts to see

them again. He always has lots of patients so this on-again and off-

again system seems to work for him. With him I was just lucky and

happened to phone to see him at a time he had decided to start taking

new patients again. I had phoned, even though my contacts all told me

that he was unavailable, as he is very good and I figured 'what could

I lose'.

Right now I am looking for a half decent G.P. that has a

reasonable open mind, and is fairly intelligent. I don't mind needed

to 'educate' a doctor about an illness or condition; but object to

those whom are closeminded. I can understand that some of them have a

difficult time staying on top of all the new

illnesses/conditions/disorders etc. But finding any G.P. in this

city that will take new patients is almost impossible I am finding.

On the other hand, I have not had to wait at all to see a couple

of specialists for my son, and they were terrific. Some I have had to

wait for months to see were terrible though. I have not been able to

find any rhyme nor reason to this. I saw a thyroid specialist a few

years ago; he was supposed to be the best in Ottawa. I only waited a

few months. He was the dumbest, most arrogant, stupid, prejudiced,

poorly informed, and close-minded doctor I have ever seen.

Your hand and fingers sound like pheripheral neuropathy. On

the otherhand it could just as easily be magnesium deficiency. [fact:

68 % of 'well' people are magnesium deficient.All ill people are

magnesuim deficient.] It is also true that lack of magnesium will

effect your blood insulin control - also a fact. [if anyone wishes to

check this out;I have a good dozen or so very good links/urls on

magnesium. I have been researching magnesium for the last year with a

practising doctor whom has just writen a book on magnesium.]

But regardless which is causing the problem with your hand and

fingers; it can be cured [not 'helped' - cured] using transdermal

magnesium chloride. This again is a fact.

best wishes

Shan

> >

> > Hello to all, I just joined the group, I live in Canada

(TORONTO) and

> > live off a government subsidy, also my meds are paid from

this sub. I

> > was on LIPITOR but the scrip ran out and my GP was away, when

he gets

> > back the first week he is booked solid. This is probaly good

news for

> > me, no-one told me about any side effects from this drug.

Last year I

> > developed nerve damage in my left hand. It(hand) had no

feeling with

> > baby finger and finger next to that. I was told this was a

side

> > effect

> > of being a diabetic. My GP sent me to a surgen to see about

micro-

> > surgery. In March this was done, it did free up the feeling

in my

> > hand,

> > but I still have pins and needle feeeling in my two fingers,

could

> > this

> > be a problem from using LIPITOR, if so could someone email

me. I also

> > have had aches through my body but just thought it was from

different

> > crashes over the yrs.Does the group recomend me going back on

LIPITOR

> > or should I have my GP scrib something else? I would

appreciate any

> > info on this subject from the group.Bye for now muttlyzoo.

> >

> >

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> Hello all,

>

> Are there any Canadian members out there who can verify that it

takes

> forever to see a specialist in Canada. I hear lots of stories about

the

> availability of Doctors in Canada. Most Canadians I talk with say

they

> seldom have to wait long even for a specialist except in rare cases

like

> for example a heart valve replacement. What is the truth about the

> availability of Canadian medicine? Here it typically takes me six

weeks

> to two months for the first appointment with any specialist. I have

HMO

> insurance.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

I HAVE AIH AND ALL OF MY LEVELS ARE WITHIN NORMAL RANGE

MY PCP SUBSCRIBED LIPITOR FOR ME BECAUSE MY CHOLESTEROL

IS SOMEWHAT HIGH. I AM SO HESITANT TO TAKE THE MEDICATION

AND HE SAID THAT THERE SHOULD'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF MY

NORMAL LEVELS. DOES ANYONE TAKE MEDICATION FOR CHOLESTEROL?

ALSO, I HEAR DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF OVER THE COUNTER PAIN

RELIEF. I TAKE TYLENOL AND ADVIL ONLY ONCE IN A WHILE FOR

HEADACHE OR BACKACHE. WHAT'S EVERYONE'S TAKE ON OVER THE

COUNTER.

THANKS SO MUCH

DONNA

[Guest guest]

I take Tricor and Welchol and my levels are a little higher than without them

but still well within the normal range and I have taken them for almost 2 years

now. I can't take statins though they work great and fast. I am allergic and

have the bad side effects.

[ ] LIPITOR

I HAVE AIH AND ALL OF MY LEVELS ARE WITHIN NORMAL RANGE

MY PCP SUBSCRIBED LIPITOR FOR ME BECAUSE MY CHOLESTEROL

IS SOMEWHAT HIGH. I AM SO HESITANT TO TAKE THE MEDICATION

AND HE SAID THAT THERE SHOULD'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF MY

NORMAL LEVELS. DOES ANYONE TAKE MEDICATION FOR CHOLESTEROL?

ALSO, I HEAR DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF OVER THE COUNTER PAIN

RELIEF. I TAKE TYLENOL AND ADVIL ONLY ONCE IN A WHILE FOR

HEADACHE OR BACKACHE. WHAT'S EVERYONE'S TAKE ON OVER THE

COUNTER.

THANKS SO MUCH

DONNA

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I also did not like the side effects associated with Lipitor and took Cholestra

the Lessman product sold on HSN. My doctor who had been reluctant but

willing to monitor a test trial with it was so impressed, he will now offer

alternatives to some of his patients. He even sells Red Rice Yeast extract at

his office but requires regular testing and rigid diet monitoring. Some

physicians are slowly coming around to nutricianial health. However insurance

will not pay. The red rice yeast is a cheap way to go. Cholestra is not. My

Hepatologist has no objection as long as the results are effective.

Sylvia = AIH = Las Vegas, NV

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[Guest guest]

Donna was questioning the use of Lipitor for her Cholesterol control. I do not

know how high her readings are, but it was my understanding that PBC can cause

higher Cholesterol levels but not the damage that normally is associated with

high Cholesterol. Perhaps others can elaborate on this for us.

Donna asked what over the counter drugs some of us use for pain. I for one do

not take any. So far I have managed to get by without it, even with frequent

bouts of Pleurisy and Pneumonia. With so many other meds many have to take its

best to try and lighten the load on the liver.

Gwen Cda