pneumonia shot

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Go for it.!

Carole

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LIVE vaccines are a problem with CFID people.

Carole

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From: helenw8262@... [mailto:helenw8262@...]

My Dr. wants me to have a pneumonia shot. Any contraindications that anyone

knows of? All I know is that I can't take the flu shot, it made me very

ill.

[Patti:] Before getting the pneumonia vaccine, I had pneumonia 6 times. My

doc said I should get the vaccine. Several months later I got pneumonia for

the 7th time. The vaccine provided no protection for me whatsoever.

After reading lots of papers on vaccines, I do not believe anyone with low

CMI (cell-mediated immunity - Th1) should get any vaccine that promotes

humoral immunity (Th2) (which most vaccines do). I've seen several papers

showing that people with low CMI often get little or no immunity from

vaccines anyway, so I don't understand what the point is in getting it. I

brought this up with my docs but they seem unaware of the research.

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Vaccines are one cause of CFS and I suggest you avoid it.

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" Skari, M " wrote:

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> From: helenw8262@... [mailto:helenw8262@...]

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> My Dr. wants me to have a pneumonia shot. Any contraindications that anyone

>

> knows of? All I know is that I can't take the flu shot, it made me very

> ill.

>

> [Patti:] Before getting the pneumonia vaccine, I had pneumonia 6 times. My

> doc said I should get the vaccine. Several months later I got pneumonia for

> the 7th time. The vaccine provided no protection for me whatsoever.

>

> After reading lots of papers on vaccines, I do not believe anyone with low

> CMI (cell-mediated immunity - Th1) should get any vaccine that promotes

> humoral immunity (Th2) (which most vaccines do). I've seen several papers

> showing that people with low CMI often get little or no immunity from

> vaccines anyway, so I don't understand what the point is in getting it. I

> brought this up with my docs but they seem unaware of the research.

>

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Why?//> Go for it.!>

> Carole

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helenw8262@... wrote:

> My Dr. wants me to have a pneumonia shot. Any contraindications that

> anyone

> knows of? All I know is that I can't take the flu shot, it made me

> very ill.

>

Just one more data point for you: I got a mild case of pneumonia one

week after the pneumonia shot, but got over it much more quickly than I

usually do. Afterwards, I went two winters with no pneumonia (unusual

for me).

I have asthma which kicks in when I have a respiratory infection, and my

fibromyalgia and CFIDS flare up something awful if I'm up all night

coughing from asthma/bronchitis/pneumonia. The pneumonia vaccine was

therefore very worthwhile for me.

Re flu shots, some years I have had no reaction to it at all, and a

couple years it sent me into a major CFIDS relapse lasting a couple of

months. I have no way of telling what it will do for me, having never

had my Th1/Th2 tested. It's a judgement call that I base on early

reports of just how virulent they expect this year's flu to be.

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It is called pneumococcal vaccine. It is normally given to people who are at risk of pneumonia and chest infections; to those who have had a splenectomy (Jan)(with out a spleen) and persons over 65 should be revaccinated. It is possible that they are giving it as part of the children's vaccination programme in the USA -I did read something about it but have forgotten. Many of us have problems with inhaling stuff and regurgitation and I would say it is a good idea. I have had it. My text book says every 5 years.

Joan

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From: toomuchclutter

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 4:45 AM

Subject: Pneumonia shot

I got a pneumonia shot yesterday, my surgeon had recommended it as a good thing a while ago. I had taken my daughter to her pediatrician and discovered both my kids had not received the pneumonia shot (called something else) when they were kids, now I gather most get them with their other immunizations. I guess they started them regularly about 6 years ago. For my kids, just one shot I guess now, for little babies it is 3. Not sure if that is per year or what, but there is some indication it helps with ear infections if is the staph-pneumo (something along those lines). Prevnar is the shot, I think.I thought I might pass this reminder along, if you thought you might want a little edge on beating off the germs. I seem to get pneumonia and bronchial things easily and maybe this will help.

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In a message dated 11/20/2004 1:42:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpearse@... writes:

It is called pneumococcal vaccine. It is normally given to people who are at risk of pneumonia and chest infections; to those who have had a splenectomy (Jan)(with out a spleen) and persons over 65 should be revaccinated. It is possible that they are giving it as part of the children's vaccination programme in the USA -I did read something about it but have forgotten. Many of us have problems with inhaling stuff and regurgitation and I would say it is a good idea. I have had it. My text book says every 5 years.

Joan

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From: toomuchclutter

Joan,

Yep, after my partial esophagectomy and emergency spleenectomy, they told me that it was wise to give me a pnumonia vac. , and I said, okay, go ahead and do it.

So, one vaccination is good for 5 yrs?

Jan from Northern KY

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Hi Jan,

Initially they told us one was for life, but now it seems that they recommend a repeat every 5 years. My text book is:

Chin J (editor): Control of Communicable Diseases Manual, 17th Edition, 2000, American Public Health Association. -it is known as the bible of Infectious Diseases !

How are you doing ? Hope the reflux is having a calm spell ! My come up to try me whenever I get complacent and forget about it. When even water hurts to swallow then you know your E is upset !!

Hugs,

Joan

Re: Pneumonia shot

In a message dated 11/20/2004 1:42:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpearse@... writes:

It is called pneumococcal vaccine. It is normally given to people who are at risk of pneumonia and chest infections; to those who have had a splenectomy (Jan)(with out a spleen) and persons over 65 should be revaccinated. It is possible that they are giving it as part of the children's vaccination programme in the USA -I did read something about it but have forgotten. Many of us have problems with inhaling stuff and regurgitation and I would say it is a good idea. I have had it. My text book says every 5 years.

Joan

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From: toomuchclutter

Joan,

Yep, after my partial esophagectomy and emergency spleenectomy, they told me that it was wise to give me a pnumonia vac. , and I said, okay, go ahead and do it.

So, one vaccination is good for 5 yrs?

Jan from Northern KY

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In a message dated 11/23/2004 12:39:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpearse@... writes:

How are you doing ? Hope the reflux is having a calm spell ! My come up to try me whenever I get complacent and forget about it. When even water hurts to swallow then you know your E is upset !!

Hugs,

Joan

Joan,

Today I am not having a great day, the reflux is pretty bad. I am taking all the meds the surgeon advised and still, when I eat, I feel a burning all the way down my throat and I do seem to have an annoying cough, which is scareing me a little bit. If it's still this way next week, I think I will call the doctor back. At this point with a partial esophagectomy, I don't know if anything else can help, but maybe it's time to try another PPI medicine. This does scare me a little, because, even though I can swallow better, it doesn't feel very good to eat because it's accompanied by burning pain.

Thanks for asking, sorry the news wasn't so good.

Jan

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Jan,

I am having a bad spell as well - just as you describe - your E is so tender anything hurts! My previous GI used to change medication which worked for a few weeks and then not. The one I go to now says they are all much the same. I find it helps if I take them 1 hour before I eat anything and an hour after I have last eaten. At lunch time I usually forget and then suffer for the afternoon.

I read an article in Medscape the other night that said that patients who take PPI are at a greatly increased risk of pneumonia, because the reduced pH allows bacteria to grow. That's all very well, but I seem to be producing more acid, and perhaps it is all home made in the pouches in my E, but its pretty potent stuff.

I do feel for you Jan - you (and I) started out with reflux and here you are back with it all over again. Life is just not fair.

Why wait till next week to phone the Doc?

How's work? Are you back full day yet? Do you cope for the day or do you get very tired.

Hang in there - thinking of you!

Hugs,

Joan

Re: Pneumonia shot

In a message dated 11/23/2004 12:39:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpearse@... writes:

How are you doing ? Hope the reflux is having a calm spell ! My come up to try me whenever I get complacent and forget about it. When even water hurts to swallow then you know your E is upset !!

Hugs,

Joan

Joan,

Today I am not having a great day, the reflux is pretty bad. I am taking all the meds the surgeon advised and still, when I eat, I feel a burning all the way down my throat and I do seem to have an annoying cough, which is scareing me a little bit. If it's still this way next week, I think I will call the doctor back. At this point with a partial esophagectomy, I don't know if anything else can help, but maybe it's time to try another PPI medicine. This does scare me a little, because, even though I can swallow better, it doesn't feel very good to eat because it's accompanied by burning pain.

Thanks for asking, sorry the news wasn't so good.

Jan

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Hi Jan!

I agree with Joan. Why wait to see a

doc. You have been through enough. You don’t need to suffer any

longer with that horrible acid. It is time they found something that will

work for you. Take care. I am thinking of you.

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shot

In a message dated 11/23/2004 12:39:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jpearse@... writes:

How are

you doing ? Hope the reflux is having a calm spell ! My come up to try me

whenever I get complacent and forget about it. When even water hurts to swallow

then you know your E is upset !!

Hugs,

Joan

Joan,

Today I am not having a great day, the reflux is pretty bad.

I am taking all the meds the surgeon advised and still, when I eat, I feel a

burning all the way down my throat and I do seem to have an annoying cough,

which is scareing me a little bit. If it's still this way next week, I

think I will call the doctor back. At this point with a partial

esophagectomy, I don't know if anything else can help, but maybe it's time to

try another PPI medicine. This does scare me a little, because, even

though I can swallow better, it doesn't feel very good to eat because it's

accompanied by burning pain.

Thanks for asking, sorry the news wasn't so good.

Jan

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In a message dated 11/24/2004 12:35:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpearse@... writes:

Why wait till next week to phone the Doc?

How's work? Are you back full day yet? Do you cope for the day or do you get very tired.

Hang in there - thinking of you!

Hugs,

Joan

Joan,

Thanks for the good messages, I need to hear them. I will call the doctor, probably next week because of the holiday weekend here in US is Thanksgiving, and so next Monday I will call. I am just afraid they'll want to see me again for a PH test or something, but if they do, I guess it is better to see just what the PH test shows as far as the acidity levels. Work is going pretty well, and though I feel tired, the mentally challanged people I work with energize me and help me to not focus on my reflux.

Take care, Joan, you are a good friend to respond to me and encourage me.

Hugs,

Jan from Northern KY

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Hey Pat... my doc told me that the pneumonia shot would last at least 10 years at my age... 52. My mom in law gets them every 5 years I think it is... she is in her 80's.

Nighty night, Llinda

I have also gotten these shots, to have HepB & C can and will kill you...Gail is absolutely right...

How long does the pneumonia shot last?, Are we to get this every year?

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The phemonia shot is only good for 10 years.I got mine when I was 54 and have to get it again when I am 64.My husband had his at 65 and in two years will have to get another one.

Gail

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-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of LlindaSent: September 5, 2005 12:26 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: pneumonia shot

Hey Pat... my doc told me that the pneumonia shot would last at least 10 years at my age... 52. My mom in law gets them every 5 years I think it is... she is in her 80's.

Nighty night, Llinda

I have also gotten these shots, to have HepB & C can and will kill you...Gail is absolutely right...

How long does the pneumonia shot last?, Are we to get this every year?

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pneumonia shot When I had mine this time my arm hurt quite bad for over a

week.....and I also felt rather on the unwell side but not very ill..........but

sick enough to know it came from my shot also. So.I too want to know what bad

side effect yours was.........Joanne

Jj Cathcart

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Pneumonia

shot is good for 10 years

/De

RE:

Gail

Hey Gail got the shot in Dec. along with flu shot. Didn't like the

pneumonia one made me abit sick, flu shot never has made me ill. Guess

pneumonia is good for 5 yrs. then another one it really tore my arm up

lol. hugs...pat

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Hmm told me 5 years cause it was my first one after that 10 years..?? Didn't like it at all for sure tho lol. Killed my arm..WW Motley <dmotley@...> wrote: Pneumonia shot is good for 10 years /De -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of patriciaSent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:03 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Gail Hey Gail got the shot in Dec. along with flu shot. Didn't like the pneumonia one made me abit sick, flu shot never has made me ill. Guess pneumonia is good for 5 yrs. then another one it really tore my arm up lol. hugs...pat