Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 In a message dated 6/6/03 8:35:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: ditto Thanks Harper, I didn't know this and by the time I was 40 I had borderline osteoporosis. Nine years later I have made some gains but not without daily 1200mg calcium and 400mg Vit D. My Dr. advocates Tums for my calcium. Patty I know someone in his 30s who had to have a hip replacement because he didn't know to take calcium with Prednisone. I've heard various things about Tums, and I don't know what is true. Some people say Tums won't work for calcium because calcium needs an acidic surrounding -- which is counteracted by Tums. I just don't know the truth. My doctor told me to take CitraCel. I've read something recently saying that Citracel is better absorbed than other forms of calcium. However, CitraCel doesn't include Vitamin D -- nor magnesium, which I hear is helpful. None of my doctors have mentioned magnesium to combat osteoporosis. When I had my ankle x-rayed last week, the doctor said my bones looked "washy" and advised me to get a bone density scan. I told him I'd had a scan, and that my bones are way worse than washy. I take Fosamax. An article in the New York Times says that taking Fosamax and the other well-known osteoporosis drug (can't think of the name - Evista, maybe?) together is helpful. I have the New York Times article in my electronic files, if anyone wants it. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 But Harper can you really trust a New York Times article anymore? love jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 Harper.....Calcium is one of the things I was completely ignorant of when on pred & I never asked nor was informed about supplements by my hep specialist. When I was dx with osteoporosis, twice Ive asked my GP about calcium supplements and both times she has said they wouldnt do any good. Ive actually met a brick wall and I will do a search as Ive been told by a friend that these supplements arent available here because of cost. So any info you have Id welcome as I shall take the drug info with me next time I see the doctor. Also, there are a lot of over the counter calcium products, does anyone take these without a docs approval or prescription? Love Jan Re: [ ] Digest Number 3141 In a message dated 6/6/03 8:35:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: dittoThanks Harper, I didn't know this and by the time I was 40 I had borderline osteoporosis.Nine years later I have made some gains but not without daily 1200mg calciumand 400mg Vit D. My Dr. advocates Tums for my calcium.Patty I know someone in his 30s who had to have a hip replacement because he didn't know to take calcium with Prednisone. I've heard various things about Tums, and I don't know what is true. Some people say Tums won't work for calcium because calcium needs an acidic surrounding -- which is counteracted by Tums. I just don't know the truth. My doctor told me to take CitraCel. I've read something recently saying that Citracel is better absorbed than other forms of calcium. However, CitraCel doesn't include Vitamin D -- nor magnesium, which I hear is helpful. None of my doctors have mentioned magnesium to combat osteoporosis. When I had my ankle x-rayed last week, the doctor said my bones looked "washy" and advised me to get a bone density scan. I told him I'd had a scan, and that my bones are way worse than washy. I take Fosamax. An article in the New York Times says that taking Fosamax and the other well-known osteoporosis drug (can't think of the name - Evista, maybe?) together is helpful. I have the New York Times article in my electronic files, if anyone wants it.Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 Hi I take an over the counter product called Meg Cal High Absorption Calcium by a company called son (in Canada) It is a combination of carbonate citrate, fumarate, malate, succinate and glutamate. My pharmacist reccomended it and I took it to my GP and he approved it. I have to take Vit. D and Mag seperatly. But calcium in itself is not a bone builder and if you have damage to your bones you need to be on a prescription drug. Many people have mentioned Fosomax but the Reumy has said that Actonel is one step up from Fosomax. The next generation. I have two friends on F and thhey have not shown the improvement in bone mass that either my mother or I have shown on the Actonel. The generic name is - risedronate. With so much Osteoporosis in my family it is one thing I have always been really careful of and when I had bone loss because the twit and my old GP said just take more calcium, I was more than furious. But I am slowly making gains. So is my mother for the first time, after she was put on the Actonel two years ago and she is 76 and was already in severe osteo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2003 Report Share Posted June 7, 2003 In a message dated 6/6/2003 8:36:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: Boy am I rambling, does this make any sense??? Patty Yes, you sound just like someone who needs a new liver Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 , I have osteoperosis too, and they won't give it to me either due to my ulcer history for the same reasons. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hello . How nice to hear some positive results among so much trouble. My daughter has just been diagnosed and she is only 11. She has probably had OCD for a long time, but just recently became a problem. We also use a lot of humor and understanding, however we do not enable. It is very tough sometimes having to force somebody to be exposed to the things that makes her uncomfortable, but with humor and understanding the task is a bit easier. After a child vomited during band lesson while my daughter was in the room she wanted to quit band. I did not let her, and even though she had a hard time at the beginning seeing this child and attending clarinet lessons she now reports doing much better and not having obsessions toward this poor child that vomited. The key is for the child to understand that they are not at fault for this thoughts and behaviors but that the OCD needs to be defeated. Thank you again for such words of encouragement. I would hope more parents of children that are now out of the pain and suffering and are doing so well would write to give us hope. Stefi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hi Stefi, Good going on you and your daughter for standing up to vomiting! The poor child that vomited has enough embarrasment to deal with - your daughter was very kind to not stigmatize her even more!!! take care! wendy, in canada > After a child vomited during band lesson while my daughter was in the room she wanted to quit band. I did not let her, and even though she had a hard time at the beginning seeing this child and attending clarinet lessons she now reports doing much better and not having obsessions toward this poor child that vomited. > ... > The key is for the child to understand that they are not at fault for this thoughts and behaviors but that the OCD needs to be defeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 > There is a new zero calorie sweetener on the market that seems > promising. Z Sweet, which is pure Erythritol, a sugar alcohol. I am > not sure it can be used for KT. Any ideas about using sugar alcohols > for KT? BTW, this stuff is not like Splenda, which is an artificial > chemical sweetener. Erythritol is a natural sweetener. It is a little > expensive, about $5/pound in quantity. I paid $13 for 1.5 pounds in > the Wegmans supermarket. I recall that aspartame was also touted to be from natural sources. I simply do not trust these sorts of products. From what I've read, thousands of years of kombucha culture has produced healthful effects using natural sugar. I would prefer not to tamper with what has been proven to work. Almost everything we eat or drink is converted by our bodies into sugar. Some do it faster than others, hence the need to eat lower on the glycemic index. I confess I am finding the info I find on the internet about diabetes and Kombucha a bit confusing and contradictory. No doubt my own ignorance plays into this. -- - May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts! Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC http://knitternun.blogspot.com SanDiegoFiberFolk KnitternunMeditation/ MereBenedictines/ LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens even more. From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 > There is a new zero calorie sweetener on the market that seems > promising. Z Sweet, which is pure Erythritol, a sugar alcohol. I am > not sure it can be used for KT. Any ideas about using sugar alcohols > for KT? BTW, this stuff is not like Splenda, which is an artificial > chemical sweetener. Erythritol is a natural sweetener. It is a little > expensive, about $5/pound in quantity. I paid $13 for 1.5 pounds in > the Wegmans supermarket. I recall that aspartame was also touted to be from natural sources. I simply do not trust these sorts of products. From what I've read, thousands of years of kombucha culture has produced healthful effects using natural sugar. I would prefer not to tamper with what has been proven to work. Almost everything we eat or drink is converted by our bodies into sugar. Some do it faster than others, hence the need to eat lower on the glycemic index. I confess I am finding the info I find on the internet about diabetes and Kombucha a bit confusing and contradictory. No doubt my own ignorance plays into this. -- - May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts! Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC http://knitternun.blogspot.com SanDiegoFiberFolk KnitternunMeditation/ MereBenedictines/ LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens even more. From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Hi I am far from an expert on the subject of sugars and this is frankly OT but once in a while we can allow ourselves to discuss issued that pertains to our health even if not completely KT related ... No discussion on sweeteners would be complete without mentioning Stevia, a NATURAL, not lab-derived or chemically derived thing like Splenda ... The extract from the leaves is sweet actually 300 times sweeter than sugar... For reasons the FDA and the AMA would not discuss clearly it is not sold as a sweetened but rather as a supplement. Its glycemic index is close to ZERO or IS zero. Why did they have to go toward Aspartame and the other poison can be easily traced to the profit motive since it is impossible to patent a naturally occurring plant. It can be found at Health Food Store and the price is dear but a small bottle say 60 ml around $12, packs the equivalent of 2 lbs or more of White Cane Sugar and it has no aftertaste at least for me negligible... " Sr. Gloriamarie Amalfitano " <gloriamarie@...> wrote: > There is a new zero calorie sweetener on the market that seems > promising. Z Sweet, which is pure Erythritol, a sugar alcohol. I am > not sure it can be used for KT. Any ideas about using sugar alcohols > for KT? BTW, this stuff is not like Splenda, which is an artificial > chemical sweetener. Erythritol is a natural sweetener. It is a little > expensive, about $5/pound in quantity. I paid $13 for 1.5 pounds in > the Wegmans supermarket. I recall that aspartame was also touted to be from natural sources. I simply do not trust these sorts of products. From what I've read, thousands of years of kombucha culture has produced healthful effects using natural sugar. I would prefer not to tamper with what has been proven to work. Almost everything we eat or drink is converted by our bodies into sugar. Some do it faster than others, hence the need to eat lower on the glycemic index. I confess I am finding the info I find on the internet about diabetes and Kombucha a bit confusing and contradictory. No doubt my own ignorance plays into this. -- - May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts! Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC http://knitternun.blogspot.com SanDiegoFiberFolk KnitternunMeditation/ MereBenedictines/ L --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Hi I am far from an expert on the subject of sugars and this is frankly OT but once in a while we can allow ourselves to discuss issued that pertains to our health even if not completely KT related ... No discussion on sweeteners would be complete without mentioning Stevia, a NATURAL, not lab-derived or chemically derived thing like Splenda ... The extract from the leaves is sweet actually 300 times sweeter than sugar... For reasons the FDA and the AMA would not discuss clearly it is not sold as a sweetened but rather as a supplement. Its glycemic index is close to ZERO or IS zero. Why did they have to go toward Aspartame and the other poison can be easily traced to the profit motive since it is impossible to patent a naturally occurring plant. It can be found at Health Food Store and the price is dear but a small bottle say 60 ml around $12, packs the equivalent of 2 lbs or more of White Cane Sugar and it has no aftertaste at least for me negligible... " Sr. Gloriamarie Amalfitano " <gloriamarie@...> wrote: > There is a new zero calorie sweetener on the market that seems > promising. Z Sweet, which is pure Erythritol, a sugar alcohol. I am > not sure it can be used for KT. Any ideas about using sugar alcohols > for KT? BTW, this stuff is not like Splenda, which is an artificial > chemical sweetener. Erythritol is a natural sweetener. It is a little > expensive, about $5/pound in quantity. I paid $13 for 1.5 pounds in > the Wegmans supermarket. I recall that aspartame was also touted to be from natural sources. I simply do not trust these sorts of products. From what I've read, thousands of years of kombucha culture has produced healthful effects using natural sugar. I would prefer not to tamper with what has been proven to work. Almost everything we eat or drink is converted by our bodies into sugar. Some do it faster than others, hence the need to eat lower on the glycemic index. I confess I am finding the info I find on the internet about diabetes and Kombucha a bit confusing and contradictory. No doubt my own ignorance plays into this. -- - May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts! Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC http://knitternun.blogspot.com SanDiegoFiberFolk KnitternunMeditation/ MereBenedictines/ L --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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