Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks Roni, Sorry to those not interested, but this relates to thyroid, if the parathyroid glands are removed during surgery. This is pretty upsetting, and I keep going back and forth about it. In light of all the negative things written about bone density drugs, why do you think an endocrinologist who didn't prescribe the drug, which is a generic, would insist I take it? There is nothing to be gained by him in the way of kickbacks for prescribing drugs. We all want to do what is best for our health, and when medical professionals insist we take drugs that have caused problems in women, I have to wonder why. The endocrinlogist seemed genuinely concerned, and was so insistent, I thought it must be the right thing to do. He said the chance of complications during the first five years is minimal, and I'm much better off taking it. I had a complete hysterectomy at 32 because of Endometriosis. My doctor prescribed 2mg of Estrace daily, which is straight estrogen with no progesterone. I took it for 27 years, felt wonderful, and thrived on it. I never had any health problems of any kind. Then it was decided that it caused problems we had been told it prevented all those years. Five years ago, my female doctor along with many others, stopped prescribing it. In my opinion I was better off with it, and now doctors agree with me! In my opinion, if I had continued taking it, it's unlikely I would have Osteoperosis. In fact when it was first prescribed, I was told I'd probably be taking it for the rest of my life, especially because I am small boned and it would protect my bones. From the article by Dr. Oz and Dr. Roizen 11-10-2010: " 
We wouldn't blame you if the latest round of horror story headlines about hormone therapy (HT) and breast cancer inspired you to flush your pills. Scary? Absolutely. But less so and in fact even misleading when you know three things. Yes, we beg to differ strongly that scariness is BS (bad interpretation of science, and maybe just bad science). Here are three things you should know: 1. Estrogen used alone in this study decreased the risk of breast cancer in this and other studies, strongly suggesting the problem was with the combo. 2. Today's hormone therapy can be safer than that used in the study. So safe, in fact, that it's an intelligent option for the one in three women with nasty menopausal symptoms. 3. The safest HT also protects you from the number one killer of women: heart disease. If you're among the 83 million women in North America who are nearing or going through menopause, here's the science. Yes, we're going against the establishment, but you deserve the real data from the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) -- not the BS headlines from people who seem not to have cared about what the data in the study were -- and from other studies. " http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mehmet-oz/women-and-menopause-why-h_b_780069.ht\ ml Comments are welcomed. Barb 2. Today's hormone therapy can be safer than that used in the study. So safe, in fact, that it's an intelligent option for the one in three women with nasty menopausal symptoms. 3. The safest HT also protects you from the number one killer of women: heart disease. If you're among the 83 million women in North America who are nearing or going through menopause, here's the science. Yes, we're going against the establishment, but you deserve the real data from the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) -- not the BS headlines from people who seem not to have cared about what the data in the study were -- and from other studies. " http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mehmet-oz/women-and-menopause-why-h_b_780069.ht\ ml Comments are welcomed. Barb Fosomax et al Here's some info about the bone density drugs. This is not something I would take, not for 5 years or 5 minutes. That's just my opinion. http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/fosamax There are other ways to do this. http://www.algaecal.com/vitamin-k2.html http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/v_k2.html <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Sorry that the end of my last comment was repeated twice. I don't know how that happened since it was copied and pasted from the website it's linked to. Obviously I did something wrong. My apologies. Barb Fosomax et al Here's some info about the bone density drugs. This is not something I would take, not for 5 years or 5 minutes. That's just my opinion. http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/fosamax There are other ways to do this. http://www.algaecal.com/vitamin-k2.html http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/v_k2.html <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 It must have something to do with money somehow. I have been undertreated for hypothyroid for years and years even though I kept telling them I had all the hypo symptoms they kept telling me that I was hyper. When the afib got bad, they said it was from being hyper. Of course they were only checking the TSH, which did show that, but they didn't check anything else and if they had they would have seen that I was not converting and therefore my T3 intake was very low and my RT3 was high. Not one of them said afib could also come from hypothyroid. My cardiologist that I generally like, looked at my lab sheet with all the numbers showing I was clearly hypo and had high Rt3, but only focused on the TSH and said I was hyper. I asked him to look again and read ALL the numbers and he was shocked to find that I was actually hypo.  These doctors have no time, don't get paid enough for the hard work that a lot of them do and don't pay enough attention. I think this is especially true of doctors dealing with medicare patients. This is over and above any incentives that they get for pushing pills. After all, think of it, a doctor can only prescribe pills, run tests or operate. That's all they are trained to do and that is all they do.   <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge!  Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: H <macbarb0503@...> Subject: Re: Fosomax et al hypothyroidism Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 7:38 AM Thanks Roni, Sorry to those not interested, but this relates to thyroid, if the parathyroid glands are removed during surgery. This is pretty upsetting, and I keep going back and forth about it.   In light of all the negative things written about bone density drugs, why do you think an endocrinologist who didn't prescribe the drug, which is a generic, would insist I take it? There is nothing to be gained by him in the way of kickbacks for prescribing drugs. We all want to do what is best for our health, and when medical professionals insist we take drugs that have caused problems in women, I have to wonder why. The endocrinlogist seemed genuinely concerned, and was so insistent, I thought it must be the right thing to do. He said the chance of complications during the first five years is minimal, and I'm much better off taking it. I had a complete hysterectomy at 32 because of Endometriosis. My doctor prescribed 2mg of Estrace daily, which is straight estrogen with no progesterone. I took it for 27 years, felt wonderful, and thrived on it. I never had any health problems of any kind. Then it was decided that it caused problems we had been told it prevented all those years. Five years ago, my female doctor along with many others, stopped prescribing it. In my opinion I was better off with it, and now doctors agree with me! In my opinion, if I had continued taking it, it's unlikely I would have Osteoperosis. In fact when it was first prescribed, I was told I'd probably be taking it for the rest of my life, especially because I am small boned and it would protect my bones. From the article by Dr. Oz and Dr. Roizen 11-10-2010: " 
We wouldn't blame you if the latest round of horror story headlines about hormone therapy (HT) and breast cancer inspired you to flush your pills. Scary? Absolutely. But less so and in fact even misleading when you know three things. Yes, we beg to differ strongly that scariness is BS (bad interpretation of science, and maybe just bad science). Here are three things you should know: 1. Estrogen used alone in this study decreased the risk of breast cancer in this and other studies, strongly suggesting the problem was with the combo. 2. Today's hormone therapy can be safer than that used in the study. So safe, in fact, that it's an intelligent option for the one in three women with nasty menopausal symptoms. 3. The safest HT also protects you from the number one killer of women: heart disease. If you're among the 83 million women in North America who are nearing or going through menopause, here's the science. Yes, we're going against the establishment, but you deserve the real data from the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) -- not the BS headlines from people who seem not to have cared about what the data in the study were -- and from other studies. " http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mehmet-oz/women-and-menopause-why-h_b_780069.ht\ ml Comments are welcomed. Barb 2. Today's hormone therapy can be safer than that used in the study. So safe, in fact, that it's an intelligent option for the one in three women with nasty menopausal symptoms. 3. The safest HT also protects you from the number one killer of women: heart disease. If you're among the 83 million women in North America who are nearing or going through menopause, here's the science. Yes, we're going against the establishment, but you deserve the real data from the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) -- not the BS headlines from people who seem not to have cared about what the data in the study were -- and from other studies. " http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mehmet-oz/women-and-menopause-why-h_b_780069.ht\ ml Comments are welcomed. Barb  Fosomax et al Here's some info about the bone density drugs. This is not something I would take, not for 5 years or 5 minutes. That's just my opinion. http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/fosamax There are other ways to do this. http://www.algaecal.com/vitamin-k2.html http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/v_k2.html <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 " These doctors have no time, don't get paid enough for the hard work that a lot of them do and don't pay enough attention. I think this is especially true of doctors dealing with medicare patients. " I think that's true Roni. I've only been on Medicare since May, but have noticed a definite difference in health care. They seem to have less time, are less thorough, and only order tests that would previously have been ordered, when pushed to do so. In thes past, if there was the slightest chance something might be of concern, tests were ordered to remove all doubt. No more. Fosomax et al Here's some info about the bone density drugs. This is not something I would take, not for 5 years or 5 minutes. That's just my opinion. http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/fosamax There are other ways to do this. http://www.algaecal.com/vitamin-k2.html http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/v_k2.html <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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