Re: in pursuit of weight loss questions

[Guest guest]

Typically there is only one way to lose weight: Burn more calories than

you consume. And there is only one way to gain weight: Consume more

calories than you burn.

Our problem [one of them, anyway] is that when we are hypothyroid our

metabolism tends to slow down, which means we burn fewer calories in day

to day activities than we normally would. Further [as I understand it]

if we try to exercise we can sometimes bump up against a " wall " , which I

think can be caused by T3 depletion from the exercise.

It's a very often reported problem to which I don't have the answer.

If you find an easy way to lose 30 lbs please let me know...

Luck,

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> Posted by: " guerasaul " guerasaul@...

>

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> guerasaul <guerasaul>

>

>

> Fri Dec 3, 2010 8:24 pm (PST)

>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I'm new here. I was diagnosed hypothyroid in August of this year.

> Before my diagnosis, I gained about 15 pounds over the course of a

> year or so and after being on medication, I gained another 5 pounds.

> It took a few weeks after getting on medication to feel a more

> familiar sense of energy and motivation, but I did 'force' myself to

> exercise at least 4-5 days/week.

> It has been approximately 7 weeks now that I have been following a

> strict regimen of strenuous exercise 6 days/week and low calorie, low

> carb diet. At most I show a pound lost on the scale these days but no

> dramatic or long term change.

> I'm feeling increasingly disheartened and desperate here. What am I

> not doing?

> Has anyone tried the hcg drops? Acupuncture? low glycemic index diet?

> Does anything work? All I know now is that daily rigorous exercise and

> a restricted diet is not working and I'm getting impatient.

> Many thanks to those who can provide some answers here.

>

> Sincerely,

> Willow

[Guest guest]

There is a great book about this very complex subject; Good Calories, Bad

Calories by Taubes. If you don't like reading about biomedical stuff it

could be a bit of a heavy read, but I think Taubes should get a Nobel Prize for

the work. I've heard he's coming out with a simplified version soon.

Anyway, the old calories in/calories out is not how the body works; it's much

more complex and hormone dependent. And when you think of it, how would our

bodies directly convert energy (calories) into mass (fat)? Energy in - Energy

out = Mass What????

may have hit on why you are not dropping more weight - if the stress of

the vigorous exercise is straining your body, you may be reacting by lowering

your metabolism to conserve energy.

Everybody is different, and you have to find what works for your body. Many

people with endocrine imbalances don't handle carbs well due to the hormone

insulin. So it's good to try eating less than 30gm/day of carbs and see how

that works. And maybe cut back on the aerobic exercise, try lifting weights

instead.

If you like to read, get the above book, it's a game changer.

Good luck,

Marla

>

> Typically there is only one way to lose weight: Burn more calories than

> you consume. And there is only one way to gain weight: Consume more

> calories than you burn.

>

> Our problem [one of them, anyway] is that when we are hypothyroid our

> metabolism tends to slow down, which means we burn fewer calories in day

> to day activities than we normally would. Further [as I understand it]

> if we try to exercise we can sometimes bump up against a " wall " , which I

> think can be caused by T3 depletion from the exercise.

>

> It's a very often reported problem to which I don't have the answer.

> If you find an easy way to lose 30 lbs please let me know...

>

> Luck,

>

> .

> .

>

>

>

> > Posted by: " guerasaul " guerasaul@...

> >

<mailto:guerasaul@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20loss%20que\

stions>

> > guerasaul <guerasaul>

> >

> >

> > Fri Dec 3, 2010 8:24 pm (PST)

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I'm new here. I was diagnosed hypothyroid in August of this year.

> > Before my diagnosis, I gained about 15 pounds over the course of a

> > year or so and after being on medication, I gained another 5 pounds.

> > It took a few weeks after getting on medication to feel a more

> > familiar sense of energy and motivation, but I did 'force' myself to

> > exercise at least 4-5 days/week.

> > It has been approximately 7 weeks now that I have been following a

> > strict regimen of strenuous exercise 6 days/week and low calorie, low

> > carb diet. At most I show a pound lost on the scale these days but no

> > dramatic or long term change.

> > I'm feeling increasingly disheartened and desperate here. What am I

> > not doing?

> > Has anyone tried the hcg drops? Acupuncture? low glycemic index diet?

> > Does anything work? All I know now is that daily rigorous exercise and

> > a restricted diet is not working and I'm getting impatient.

> > Many thanks to those who can provide some answers here.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > Willow

>

[Guest guest]

It is as a matter of fact EXACTLY how the body works. It doesn't matter

if the ratio is more controlled by insulin or whether fat has nothing to

do with it or not; it's still a matter of consumed calories vs burned

calories.

The calories you eat are in fact matter/mass; there is no need to do any

conversion. After all, a hamburger fits the common idea of mass/matter

rather than energy [although all mass has an energy equivalence].

The process is in fact complex and hormone dependent; but what the

hormones do in this case is to regulate the rate of metabolism [or rate

we burn calories]. And, of course, a ton of other things.

Taubes indeed has an impressive resume. However, he has no formal

training in nutrition or medicine whatsoever. To say the least his

claims in the field in which he has no formal training are controversial.

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>

>

> Posted by: " flatwoodfarms " marlum@...

>

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> flatwoodfarms <flatwoodfarms>

>

>

> Sat Dec 4, 2010 4:32 pm (PST)

>

>

>

>

>

> There is a great book about this very complex subject; Good Calories,

> Bad Calories by Taubes. If you don't like reading about

> biomedical stuff it could be a bit of a heavy read, but I think Taubes

> should get a Nobel Prize for the work. I've heard he's coming out with

> a simplified version soon.

>

> Anyway, the old calories in/calories out is not how the body works;

> it's much more complex and hormone dependent. And when you think of

> it, how would our bodies directly convert energy (calories) into mass

> (fat)? Energy in - Energy out = Mass What????

>

> may have hit on why you are not dropping more weight - if the

> stress of the vigorous exercise is straining your body, you may be

> reacting by lowering your metabolism to conserve energy.

> Everybody is different, and you have to find what works for your body.

> Many people with endocrine imbalances don't handle carbs well due to

> the hormone insulin. So it's good to try eating less than 30gm/day of

> carbs and see how that works. And maybe cut back on the aerobic

> exercise, try lifting weights instead.

> If you like to read, get the above book, it's a game changer.

> Good luck,

> Marla

>

> >

> > Typically there is only one way to lose weight: Burn more calories than

> > you consume. And there is only one way to gain weight: Consume more

> > calories than you burn.

> >

> > Our problem [one of them, anyway] is that when we are hypothyroid our

> > metabolism tends to slow down, which means we burn fewer calories in

> day

> > to day activities than we normally would. Further [as I understand it]

> > if we try to exercise we can sometimes bump up against a " wall " ,

> which I

> > think can be caused by T3 depletion from the exercise.

> >

> > It's a very often reported problem to which I don't have the answer.

> > If you find an easy way to lose 30 lbs please let me know...

> >

> > Luck,

> >

[Guest guest]

As I learned it, the body is very discriminating. It will feel the brain first.

The body only uses sugar for energy, and if you have too much sugar than your

body uses it's turned into fat and stored for when you need it. If you don't

have enough sugar to feed your brain and the rest of your body it will turn the

stored fat into sugar to burn.

 

I know for a fact that while I was on a very low carb diet (about 35 grams of

carbs a day), I took in many calories (don't know how much because I wasn't

counting calories, but I had a rough idea of what I was taking in) did not

restrict myself from any of the allowed foods, and was never hungry.

I lost 40 lbs in 4 months.

 

Soooooo, I don't believe the simple calories in calories out formula. Our bodies

are much more comlex than that.

 

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: in pursuit of weight loss questions

hypothyroidism

Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 10:51 AM

It is as a matter of fact EXACTLY how the body works.  It doesn't matter

if the ratio is more controlled by insulin or whether fat has nothing to

do with it or not; it's still a matter of consumed calories vs burned

calories.

The calories you eat are in fact matter/mass; there is no need to do any

conversion.  After all, a hamburger fits the common idea of mass/matter

rather than energy [although all mass has an energy equivalence].

The process is in fact complex and hormone dependent; but what the

hormones do in this case is to regulate the rate of metabolism [or rate

we burn calories].  And, of course, a ton of other things.

Taubes indeed has an impressive resume.  However, he has no formal

training in nutrition or medicine whatsoever.  To say the least his

claims in the field in which he has no formal training are controversial.

..

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>

>

>       Posted by: " flatwoodfarms " marlum@...

>   

   <mailto:marlum@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20los\

s%20questions>

>       flatwoodfarms <flatwoodfarms>

>

>

>         Sat Dec 4, 2010 4:32 pm (PST)

>

>

>

>

>

> There is a great book about this very complex subject; Good Calories,

> Bad Calories by Taubes. If you don't like reading about

> biomedical stuff it could be a bit of a heavy read, but I think Taubes

> should get a Nobel Prize for the work. I've heard he's coming out with

> a simplified version soon.

>

> Anyway, the old calories in/calories out is not how the body works;

> it's much more complex and hormone dependent. And when you think of

> it, how would our bodies directly convert energy (calories) into mass

> (fat)? Energy in - Energy out = Mass What????

>

> may have hit on why you are not dropping more weight - if the

> stress of the vigorous exercise is straining your body, you may be

> reacting by lowering your metabolism to conserve energy.

> Everybody is different, and you have to find what works for your body.

> Many people with endocrine imbalances don't handle carbs well due to

> the hormone insulin. So it's good to try eating less than 30gm/day of

> carbs and see how that works. And maybe cut back on the aerobic

> exercise, try lifting weights instead.

> If you like to read, get the above book, it's a game changer.

> Good luck,

> Marla

>

> >

> > Typically there is only one way to lose weight: Burn more calories than

> > you consume. And there is only one way to gain weight: Consume more

> > calories than you burn.

> >

> > Our problem [one of them, anyway] is that when we are hypothyroid our

> > metabolism tends to slow down, which means we burn fewer calories in

> day

> > to day activities than we normally would. Further [as I understand it]

> > if we try to exercise we can sometimes bump up against a " wall " ,

> which I

> > think can be caused by T3 depletion from the exercise.

> >

> > It's a very often reported problem to which I don't have the answer.

> > If you find an easy way to lose 30 lbs please let me know...

> >

> > Luck,

> >

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[Guest guest]

Just wanted to thank everyone who has responded to my post. After keeping track

of my eating over the weekend, I think I need to take more stringent steps

towards a lower carb diet and being more careful of simple sugars. No more toast

for breakfast!

I too think that the body's metabolism is a tricky. I wish my metabolism could

talk and say " eat this, not that! " but until then, I'll try reducing the amount

of carbs.

> > >

> > > Typically there is only one way to lose weight: Burn more calories than

> > > you consume. And there is only one way to gain weight: Consume more

> > > calories than you burn.

> > >

> > > Our problem [one of them, anyway] is that when we are hypothyroid our

> > > metabolism tends to slow down, which means we burn fewer calories in

> > day

> > > to day activities than we normally would. Further [as I understand it]

> > > if we try to exercise we can sometimes bump up against a " wall " ,

> > which I

> > > think can be caused by T3 depletion from the exercise.

> > >

> > > It's a very often reported problem to which I don't have the answer.

> > > If you find an easy way to lose 30 lbs please let me know...

> > >

> > > Luck,

> > >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

A calorie is a measurement of energy. And the hormones do a lot more than

regulate the metabolism when it comes to food utilization.

Taubes' book Good Calories, Bad Calories is a historical review of the

research and studies in the field of obesity. He is a writer and no one has

claimed he is anything else. I believe he is the first one to have put it all

together. Have you read the book?

Marla

> > >

> > > Typically there is only one way to lose weight: Burn more calories than

> > > you consume. And there is only one way to gain weight: Consume more

> > > calories than you burn.

> > >

> > > Our problem [one of them, anyway] is that when we are hypothyroid our

> > > metabolism tends to slow down, which means we burn fewer calories in

> > day

> > > to day activities than we normally would. Further [as I understand it]

> > > if we try to exercise we can sometimes bump up against a " wall " ,

> > which I

> > > think can be caused by T3 depletion from the exercise.

> > >

> > > It's a very often reported problem to which I don't have the answer.

> > > If you find an easy way to lose 30 lbs please let me know...

> > >

> > > Luck,

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

I believe he has an MS in aerospace engineering from Stanford and

earlier studied applied physics at Harvard. Later he got a degree in

journalism I believe. But no where do I see any advanced studies in

medicine or nutrition.

I haven't read the book; but I do know that his findings [in that book

and elsewhere] are controversial. While some may agree with him there

are certainly others who assert his hypothesis has no merit. It would

be interesting to see the results if anyone can figure out how to do any

credible studies to test his ideas.

Of course a calorie is a measure of energy. However in everyday

language we speak of " consuming calories " when we eat food [which is

actually mass/matter] because the food has calories in it.

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> Posted by: " flatwoodfarms " marlum@...

>

<mailto:marlum@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20loss%2\

0questions>

> flatwoodfarms <flatwoodfarms>

>

>

> Mon Dec 6, 2010 6:53 am (PST)

>

>

>

> A calorie is a measurement of energy. And the hormones do a lot more

> than regulate the metabolism when it comes to food utilization.

>

> Taubes' book Good Calories, Bad Calories is a historical review

> of the research and studies in the field of obesity. He is a writer

> and no one has claimed he is anything else. I believe he is the first

> one to have put it all together. Have you read the book?

> Marla

[Guest guest]

I think the differences come in because not every person metabolizes calories

(from every source) the same way as the next person. I know that because I'm

hypoglycemic, I have to be

careful with carbs. Someone else may not metabolize fat well and has to stay

away from that

for the most part. There are allergies to contend with sometimes too, as well as

illnesses that might restrict what we should eat.

 

It is a complex topic and not simply and in and out equation.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: in pursuit of weight loss questions

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 8:44 AM

I believe he has an MS in aerospace engineering from Stanford and

earlier studied applied physics at Harvard.  Later he got a degree in

journalism I believe.  But no where do I see any advanced studies in

medicine or nutrition.

I haven't read the book; but I do know that his findings [in that book

and elsewhere] are controversial.  While some may agree with him there

are certainly others who assert his hypothesis has no merit.  It would

be interesting to see the results if anyone can figure out how to do any

credible studies to test his ideas.

Of course a calorie is a measure of energy.  However in everyday

language we speak of " consuming calories " when we eat food [which is

actually mass/matter] because the food has calories in it.

..

..

>       Posted by: " flatwoodfarms " marlum@...

>   

   <mailto:marlum@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20los\

s%20questions>

>       flatwoodfarms <flatwoodfarms>

>

>

>         Mon Dec 6, 2010 6:53 am (PST)

>

>

>

> A calorie is a measurement of energy. And the hormones do a lot more

> than regulate the metabolism when it comes to food utilization.

>

> Taubes' book Good Calories, Bad Calories is a historical review

> of the research and studies in the field of obesity. He is a writer

> and no one has claimed he is anything else. I believe he is the first

> one to have put it all together. Have you read the book?

> Marla

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Taubes doesn't have a hypothesis in this book, rather he has gathered together

hundreds of years of research, most of which has been replicated. They are not

his findings; he is reintroducing some former commonly understood aspects of

nutrition that have been subverted by individuals and institutions, but never

disproven by good science. The book is a history of the research ( a sort of

large meta study). It is not his ideas, it is not a diet book. The reason it is

interesting is it spells out in good detail how the body actually works, as

discovered by good honest science through many years.

Of course there are those who don't want to see this truth as it would destroy

their profit pathways.

Marla

>

> I believe he has an MS in aerospace engineering from Stanford and

> earlier studied applied physics at Harvard. Later he got a degree in

> journalism I believe. But no where do I see any advanced studies in

> medicine or nutrition.

>

> I haven't read the book; but I do know that his findings [in that book

> and elsewhere] are controversial. While some may agree with him there

> are certainly others who assert his hypothesis has no merit. It would

> be interesting to see the results if anyone can figure out how to do any

> credible studies to test his ideas.

>

> Of course a calorie is a measure of energy. However in everyday

> language we speak of " consuming calories " when we eat food [which is

> actually mass/matter] because the food has calories in it.

>

>

> .

> .

>

>

>

> > Posted by: " flatwoodfarms " marlum@...

> >

<mailto:marlum@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20loss%20questi\

ons>

> > flatwoodfarms <flatwoodfarms>

> >

> >

> > Mon Dec 6, 2010 6:53 am (PST)

> >

> >

> >

> > A calorie is a measurement of energy. And the hormones do a lot more

> > than regulate the metabolism when it comes to food utilization.

> >

> > Taubes' book Good Calories, Bad Calories is a historical review

> > of the research and studies in the field of obesity. He is a writer

> > and no one has claimed he is anything else. I believe he is the first

> > one to have put it all together. Have you read the book?

> > Marla

>

[Guest guest]

On one level [math MOL] it is extremely simple: Calories in minus

calories burned equals weight gain [or loss]. Of course the

implementation is much more complex. " Calories in " means the calories

you actually absorb; not including those that pass through your system

without being absorbed. And the burning process is pretty complex too,

although the basic formula may be fairly simple. And truthfully I don't

think even the experts can understand all of the hormone interactions

involved since there is such an interaction.

But still it comes down to the fact that if you consume calories you

don't burn they tend to show up on your [for me at least] belly.

Regards,

..

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> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20lo\

ss%20questions>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Tue Dec 7, 2010 9:00 am (PST)

>

>

>

> I think the differences come in because not every person metabolizes

> calories (from every source) the same way as the next person. I know

> that because I'm hypoglycemic, I have to be

> careful with carbs. Someone else may not metabolize fat well and has

> to stay away from that

> for the most part. There are allergies to contend with sometimes too,

> as well as illnesses that might restrict what we should eat.

>

> It is a complex topic and not simply and in and out equation.

>

> <>Roni

> Immortality exists!

> It's called knowledge!

>

> Just because something isn't seen

> doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

>

>

> From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>>

> Subject: Re: in pursuit of weight loss questions

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 8:44 AM

>

> I believe he has an MS in aerospace engineering from Stanford and

> earlier studied applied physics at Harvard. Later he got a degree in

> journalism I believe. But no where do I see any advanced studies in

> medicine or nutrition.

>

> I haven't read the book; but I do know that his findings [in that book

> and elsewhere] are controversial. While some may agree with him there

> are certainly others who assert his hypothesis has no merit. It would

> be interesting to see the results if anyone can figure out how to do any

> credible studies to test his ideas.

>

> Of course a calorie is a measure of energy. However in everyday

> language we speak of " consuming calories " when we eat food [which is

> actually mass/matter] because the food has calories in it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Snort! No one can do a credible meta-study of a field without an

exhaustive in depth knowledge of that field. That knowledge does not

have to necessarily have to come from a formal education in the field

but it is pretty rare to get it any other way.

FAIK he may have expressed the actual truth of the subject; I'm only

commenting upon his credibility in the field of nutrition and medicine.

Which as far as I know is exceedingly sparse; but that's based upon a

very cursory examination. And that his findings [call them whatever you

will] have elicited criticism as well as praise.

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>

> Posted by: " flatwoodfarms " marlum@...

>

<mailto:marlum@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20loss%2\

0questions>

> flatwoodfarms <flatwoodfarms>

>

>

> Tue Dec 7, 2010 3:13 pm (PST)

>

>

>

> Taubes doesn't have a hypothesis in this book, rather he has gathered

> together hundreds of years of research, most of which has been

> replicated. They are not his findings; he is reintroducing some former

> commonly understood aspects of nutrition that have been subverted by

> individuals and institutions, but never disproven by good science. The

> book is a history of the research ( a sort of large meta study). It is

> not his ideas, it is not a diet book. The reason it is interesting is

> it spells out in good detail how the body actually works, as

> discovered by good honest science through many years.

> Of course there are those who don't want to see this truth as it would

> destroy their profit pathways.

> Marla

>

>

> >

> > I believe he has an MS in aerospace engineering from Stanford and

> > earlier studied applied physics at Harvard. Later he got a degree in

> > journalism I believe. But no where do I see any advanced studies in

> > medicine or nutrition.

> >

> > I haven't read the book; but I do know that his findings [in that book

> > and elsewhere] are controversial. While some may agree with him there

> > are certainly others who assert his hypothesis has no merit. It would

> > be interesting to see the results if anyone can figure out how to do

> any

> > credible studies to test his ideas.

> >

> > Of course a calorie is a measure of energy. However in everyday

> > language we speak of " consuming calories " when we eat food [which is

> > actually mass/matter] because the food has calories in it.

> >

> >

> > .

[Guest guest]

Not for everybody, .  I once went on the Weight Watchers program and was

PERFECT in my complieance. I joined with a close friend and she cheated like

crazy. I gained three pounds and she lost about 15. I maintain my opinion that

we are all different and what works for one may not work for another. Not every

body utilizes and burns food the same way. Some do better on low fat, some on

low carbs and some on low calories.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

> From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>>

> Subject: Re: in pursuit of weight loss questions

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 8:44 AM

>

> I believe he has an MS in aerospace engineering from Stanford and

> earlier studied applied physics at Harvard.  Later he got a degree in

> journalism I believe.  But no where do I see any advanced studies in

> medicine or nutrition.

>

> I haven't read the book; but I do know that his findings [in that book

> and elsewhere] are controversial.  While some may agree with him there

> are certainly others who assert his hypothesis has no merit.  It would

> be interesting to see the results if anyone can figure out how to do any

> credible studies to test his ideas.

>

> Of course a calorie is a measure of energy.  However in everyday

> language we speak of " consuming calories " when we eat food [which is

> actually mass/matter] because the food has calories in it.

>

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

> On one level [math MOL] it is extremely simple: Calories in minus

> calories burned equals weight gain [or loss]....

There are also calories excreted, not just passed through.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

" Not everybody utilizes and burns food the same way " : I agree

completely. And it is that difference in burn rate that determines

whether we add weight or not when we eat the same.

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> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20in%20pursuit%20of%20weight%20lo\

ss%20questions>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:28 am (PST)

>

>

>

> Not for everybody, . I once went on the Weight Watchers program

> and was PERFECT in my complieance. I joined with a close friend and

> she cheated like crazy. I gained three pounds and she lost about 15. I

> maintain my opinion that we are all different and what works for one

> may not work for another. Not every body utilizes and burns food the

> same way. Some do better on low fat, some on low carbs and some on low

> calories.

>

> <>Roni

> Immortality exists!

> It's called knowledge!

[Guest guest]

There is no doubt that is true . In August when I was diagnosed with

hypothyroidism, I decided to try and lose weight, since I was a little over

where I wanted to be, and I had read how hard it was for anyone with an

underactive thyroid to lose weight. After starting on only 25 mcg Levothyroxin,

I lost 8 pounds in 8 weeks, without hardly trying. Since I was down to 110, I

became concerned about losing too much and started eating more. Then I found I

could eat anything I wanted and not gain weight! Now that I have been off of

the meds for 5 or 6 weeks I am back to 114, with no change in eating or exercise

habits. So in my case it seems that weight loss has more to do with metabolism

than what we eat or do, even though exercise and diet are important.

Today I'm off to the lab for another blood test, but only for TSH, T3, and

vitamin D. My endocrinologist insists that's all I need at this time, even

though many here believe other tests are needed for a correct diagnosis. I told

him I wanted the other tests, but he didn't order them. It's good I have the

appointment at the Mayo Clinic in ville, for a second opinion.

Barb

I

Re: in pursuit of weight loss questions

" Not everybody utilizes and burns food the same way " : I agree

completely. And it is that difference in burn rate that determines

whether we add weight or not when we eat the same.

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> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

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> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:28 am (PST)

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>

>

> Not for everybody, . I once went on the Weight Watchers program

> and was PERFECT in my complieance. I joined with a close friend and

> she cheated like crazy. I gained three pounds and she lost about 15. I

> maintain my opinion that we are all different and what works for one

> may not work for another. Not every body utilizes and burns food the

> same way. Some do better on low fat, some on low carbs and some on low

> calories.

>

> <>Roni

> Immortality exists!

> It's called knowledge!

[Guest guest]

It has just come to my attention that Taubes now has a blog:

http://www.garytaubes.com/blog/

It might be interesting.

Marla