Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 You don't have to water-fast in order to eliminate toxins. See my articles " Spring Liver Cleanse " , " Juice Recipes " and " Neti " at url below. A good juicer is one of the best investments you'll ever make (about $200+), and it's not over and done with like a medically supervised fast. I've had my Champion juicer for over 25 yrs now and it's still kicking. Everyone has their fave juicer -- just juice! A blender makes good homemade green drinks (Green for Life book by Boutenko has recipes included). Steamed vegetables in cold weather are very clean nutritious food. The other side of that coin is really practical food planning. So when you're starved, you've already planned ahead for that and have optionS prepared for just such occasions. No comments here on the vegan diet. I think each person has to find their own best diet. So with some commonsense, a juicer, blender and/or vegetable steamer, and some planning ahead, you can do it all yourself for a song. Very empowering. Carol willis_protocols Articles in Files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 " janet joslin " <joslinj@...> wrote: > It is very difficult to completely change to this way of eating (causes stress itself because of all the preparation of veges and such instead of just grabbing something when you feel like hell) but if I knew of others who have had any success, it would help to push in that direction. > Now THAT's an interesting proposition: Whether the additional stress of going vegan would outweigh the benefits. I had someone tell me years ago that people have it all wrong about the merits of different diets. His theory was that it doesn't really matter WHAT you eat, that the only important thing is whether or not you are under stress WHEN you eat. I have seen a number of people try all kinds of different diets. I guess that the fact that they are always talking about some new one tells us how well the last one worked. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 There are a lot of Seventh-day Adventist hospitals that do clinical fasting and Vegan diets. For instance, near Sacramento California there is a school call Weimar that does this, and they even have a wonderful cookbook that is for Vegan cooking and eating. Our school cafeteria director went to Weimar and did their program, which included fasting and cleansing, then they taught everyone how to cook (they cooked their meals every day as a group, to learn how to do this) differently. She lost lots of weight, was able to change some of her diabetic meds, has better heart health (she had a triple bypass before this, was going to have it again until she went through the Weimar program), has been able to avoid additional bypass surgeries, and is alive and well today. For some people it is worth going through this to cleanse the system, learn different eating habits with help. We all can agree with you, when you are so sick, it is hard to do this by yourself and change your diet. I did it out of desparation in 2003 when I realized at age 51 I could easily end up in a wheelchair. I did the Dantini protocol (antivirals with Valtrex and food allergy diet rotation) and it changed me. I cannot do Vegan as my food allergy diet is hard enough and I was craving protein. I do not do well with carbs and wheat products, nor rice, soy or corn often. in La Selva Beach CA janet joslin wrote: > > In the past I did a 3 week medical approved fast of water only. I > swear, the physical symptoms of my chornic fatigue got better. This > was 3 years ago. They of course wanted me to stay on a complete VEgan > eating, but i have slipped back into my old ways. I am constantly in > the " flu-like symptoms it seems lately. If I work which is > " cargiveing " older people...very stressful for me, I am sick every > day. I have to do the work because I will be homeless at this point if > I don't. But it is looking like I can't work either. Life is pretty > miserable and hopeless. I am thinking of putting the fasting clinic on > the credit card and going again for a month to see if I can get better > so I can work, but i am looking at bankruptcy soon after that I am 65, > and can't get help from any social services because I have an income > from soc sec of $890. I fall through the cracks. You cannot make that > much. Of course even with medicare , I am having to pay for a medicap > program and a drug program or i won't get the Klonozopan, and ambian > that at least gets me some sleep along with a sleep apnea machine!!! > I am going to have sell my house and try to get the energy to move > which may be to a trailer or RV (looks like the only possibility) if I > can get my credit cards to pay for it before going bankrupt. It is, of > course, stressing my out so much that I don't know if that is causing > me to feel sicker. > Has anyone else ever done a medical fast (at a fasting facility with > doctors, etc that care and take care of you) and then stuck to a VEGAN > diet and had good results. It is very difficult to completely change > to this way of eating (causes stress itself because of all the > preparation of veges and such instead of just grabbing something when > you feel like hell) but if I knew of others who have had any success, > it would help to push in that direction. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Dear Janet, I wonder whether it was less to do with the fact that you where fasting, that made you feel so good, rather than the possibility that by fasting, you were eliminating the foods that you may be intolerant too? The reason I say this, is because I have been on an exclusion diet for the past 3 months, and have nearly returned to full normal functioning. However 4 days a go I slipped up and ate a piece of goats cheese. I went from riding my horse and thinking about getting a job, back to be being bed bound again for 3 days. It took me 21 hours to react to the cheese, and the only reaction I had, was a COMPLETE " powering down " of my muscles. I quite literary sank to the floor like a rag doll. I am in no way suggesting that everyone's CFS is caused by food intolerances, but it may be part of some peoples picture. The foods I can't eat are wheat, rye, barley, all dairy, beef, Soya, pears, muscles, crab and prawns. I had my food intolerances diagnosed using a blood test. Some people have tried just giving up wheat and cow dairy, and experienced no benefits. But if you are for example replacing wheat with rye, and you are also intolerant to rye, then by definition you will see no benefit! With regards to being vegan, I agree that everybody needs to find the individual best diet for them. But my partner (who also has CFS & food intol.) and I have experienced a significant improvement in energy, and hypoglycaemia symptoms, by eating a balanced diet, that includes meat protean at every meal. Our nutritionist suggested it and it really helped. Please note that I would say that food intol was about 50% of our problems, I have also been treated for pesticide poisoning and my partner has been on 3 months of antibiotics for Candida. But then I feel that people usually have more than one problem causing there CFS and that combination of problems may well be unique to them. Good luck in putting your pieces of the jigsaw together.. Big smiles Tansy ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hi, Just to say that eating foods that positively benefit me and avoiding those that cause harm has a huge positive impact on me. I don't think these are allergies as such, but within a few minutes of eating certain foods i can be extrenmely ill. Speaking personally veganism wouldn't work as I don't tolerate most seeds, pulses, nuts and cereals. I do eat loads of organic fruit and veg, especially veg. Sort of saying food intolerances can also relate to vegan foods and not necessarily to animal products, just depends, and perhaps you can work it out without the expensive clinic. Jacqui > > In the past I did a 3 week medical approved fast of water only. I swear, the physical symptoms of my chornic fatigue got better. This was 3 years ago. They of course wanted me to stay on a complete VEgan eating, but i have slipped back into my old ways. I am constantly in the " flu-like symptoms it seems lately. If I work which is " cargiveing " older people...very stressful for me, I am sick every day. I have to do the work because I will be homeless at this point if I don't. But it is looking like I can't work either. Life is pretty miserable and hopeless. I am thinking of putting the fasting clinic on the credit card and going again for a month to see if I can get better so I can work, but i am looking at bankruptcy soon after that I am 65, and can't get help from any social services because I have an income from soc sec of $890. I fall through the cracks. You cannot make that much. Of course even with medicare , I am having to pay for a medicap program and a drug program or i won't get the Klonozopan, and ambian that at least gets me some sleep along with a sleep apnea machine!!! > I am going to have sell my house and try to get the energy to move which may be to a trailer or RV (looks like the only possibility) if I can get my credit cards to pay for it before going bankrupt. It is, of course, stressing my out so much that I don't know if that is causing me to feel sicker. > Has anyone else ever done a medical fast (at a fasting facility with doctors, etc that care and take care of you) and then stuck to a VEGAN diet and had good results. It is very difficult to completely change to this way of eating (causes stress itself because of all the preparation of veges and such instead of just grabbing something when you feel like hell) but if I knew of others who have had any success, it would help to push in that direction. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Why don't you just do a juice fast? Primarily carrots and other vegetables. All you have to do is get a $200 juicer. Besides whey, juicing was the best thing I ever did. It gives your intestinal tract a rest and lets the rest of your body have more energy as opposed to 'using up' so much energy trying to digest food. Rich Carson has said that he does daily juicing. After seven years on this list, I have never heard of anyone going to a fasting clinic. Prob. a good idea if you can afford it, but IMO it would be much cheaper to buy a good juice fasting book and a juicer. Mike C (BTW, the juicing books also recommend herbs, usually) > > In the past I did a 3 week medical approved fast of water only. I swear, the physical symptoms of my chornic fatigue got better. This was 3 years ago. They of course wanted me to stay on a complete VEgan eating, but i have slipped back into my old ways. I am constantly in the " flu-like symptoms it seems lately. If I work which is " cargiveing " older people...very stressful for me, I am sick every day. I have to do the work because I will be homeless at this point if I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 here in santa rosa is one of the only medical fasting places. It is WONDERFUL. If you are on meds you do not do a total fast with just water. there are all raw diet fasts; juice fasts, and only water fasts. it depends on your own case. They have kept the costs low for what you get. It is $125 a day...that includes your own room your doctor visits every morning and evening; wonderful people from all over the world coming for many illness related reasons; speakers that come every day to encourage and educate you , videos that inspire you going on all day in the common room. It is called " TRUE NORTH HEALTH " , and the people are very dedicated to healing you at the lowest cost. It is a place to go to be supported. you can go for one day or forever, I guess! The problem is once you are out, you don't really have a support group, except they are there to encourage, and I have taken Dr Soltana as my family Dr. because his approach is healthy, but yet puts me on the drugs actually request! I send him new articles and information on CFIDS and he is totally open and then checks out the info for himself/ Meeting other people who have gone through the fasting, and are having the same problems and illness is a wonderful way to " take a break from being alone in this " . I don't know if total VEgan is good for me, but I know that Dr Soltana will work with me on whatever way I feel is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hi Jacque, Interesting that you have a similar reaction to certain foods too. Could you mail me your list of foods please, so I can check if I have missed any off my own list? Would be really grateful! Tansy ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 No I haven't but the salicylate free diet just about comes close to it (my opinion anyway) because of the huge list of foods you can't have. Unfortunately I like my food too much to fast ;o) samters From: lbl626@...Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:21:35 +0000Subject: Fasting Went to a very interesting lecture last evening on fasting. The presenter was Dr. Doug Graham touting the great benefits offasting. Has any Samerites tried this???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Ditto! I'm not a fan of fasting, even though it may have benefits including detox. I am already only just hitting target weight for my height having been underweight for my whole life, and I live an active life and find that I do need to eat (not meant flippantly). Becky From: Celtic Dove <celtic_dove@...>samters Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 22:54:58Subject: RE: Fasting No I haven't but the salicylate free diet just about comes close to it (my opinion anyway) because of the huge list of foods you can't have. Unfortunately I like my food too much to fast ;o) samters From: lbl626@...Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:21:35 +0000Subject: Fasting Went to a very interesting lecture last evening on fasting. The presenter was Dr. Doug Graham touting the great benefits offasting. Has any Samerites tried this???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 When I have been Ill and have not been able to eat I have noticed an improvement in my symptoms so there is definitely something in it. All be it impractical. From: Bannister <beckyb256@...>samters Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 23:15:05Subject: Re: Fasting Ditto! I'm not a fan of fasting, even though it may have benefits including detox. I am already only just hitting target weight for my height having been underweight for my whole life, and I live an active life and find that I do need to eat (not meant flippantly). Becky From: Celtic Dove <celtic_dove@...>samters Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 22:54:58Subject: RE: Fasting No I haven't but the salicylate free diet just about comes close to it (my opinion anyway) because of the huge list of foods you can't have. Unfortunately I like my food too much to fast ;o) samters From: lbl626@...Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:21:35 +0000Subject: Fasting Went to a very interesting lecture last evening on fasting. The presenter was Dr. Doug Graham touting the great benefits offasting. Has any Samerites tried this???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 That's interesting, I had a bad stomach upset about 18 months ago and did not eat for a few days afterwards. My sense of smell returned for a few days and then disappeared. I did mention this to my consultant before I had surgery but he did not seem all that interested. I had thought that perhaps my body had produced a reaction to the stomach upset which had an anti-inflammatory effect. Maybe it had nothing to do with this but was merely the fact that I was not eating anything and there were no salicylates or similar being ingested to effect my sinuses. I wonder whether or not anybody else has any information that might explain this, > > When I have been Ill and have not been able to eat I have noticed an improvement > in my symptoms so there is definitely something in it. All be it impractical. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bannister <beckyb256@...> > samters > Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 23:15:05 > Subject: Re: Fasting > > > Ditto! > I'm not a fan of fasting, even though it may have benefits including detox. I am > already only just hitting target weight for my height having been underweight > for my whole life, and I live an active life and find that I do need to eat (not > meant flippantly). > Becky > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Celtic Dove <celtic_dove@...> > samters > Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 22:54:58 > Subject: RE: Fasting > > > No I haven't but the salicylate free diet just about comes close to it (my > opinion anyway) because of the huge list of foods you can't have. > > Unfortunately I like my food too much to fast ;o) > > > > > ________________________________ > samters > From: lbl626@... > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:21:35 +0000 > Subject: Fasting > > > Went to a very interesting lecture last evening on fasting. The presenter was > Dr. Doug Graham touting the great benefits offasting. Has any Samerites tried > this???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'm a firm believer that my symptoms are related to things i'm ingesting. In an earlier post yesterday, I mentioned what I've found that causes my sinuses to swell up and asthma symptoms to kick in. After almost 2 years of special blood tests, food avoidance, and introducing one food at a time (which meant eating only rice for several days at a time), I found out that my triggers are MSG's, carrageenan, annatto (a food coloring found in cheese), aspartame, and stuff that contains large amounts of salicylates (which include many spices, vinegar, etc). I'm still trying to figure out if other food colorings are also contributing to the problem. The theory is these " allergens " get into the bloodstream thru possible leaks in the intestines. If you look up " leaky gut syndrome " , you can get some more information. The thinking is the lining of the intestines are damaged to some extent from steroids and anitbiotics. Doctors don't like dealing with syndromes since they are hard to test for and hard to prove. However, ingesting lots of acids (like aspirin) probably don't help either. Drinking lots and lots of water seems to dilute the acids in the digestive system, and helps me a lot. What made it difficult for me to figure out what the triggered my reactions was the fact that it was usually 12 to 18 hours after eating something, which indicates whatever I'm reacting to is getting in thru my intestines. Best thing to try initially is to only eat foods that are really natural, like whole wheat cereals, fish, meat, vegetables. Look at the ingredients. If there are other artificial preservatives, colorings, etc, stay away from them for about a week. Some fruits and vegetables (like grapes) are have higher amounts of salicylates, so you may want to check those before eating. Stay away from processed foods, like snack cakes. If your symptoms improve, gradually add one thing at a time, and wait a day to see if you react. If you do have a reaction, it may day 2-3 days to get it out of your system. I found out that I was badly allergic to foods that contained carrageenans, which turned out to be in the Silk Soy milk I was drinking every day. After avoiding everything with carrageenans, my asthma symptoms greatly improved after about 3-4 days. I know it's not easy advice this close to the holidays, but it's worth a try. Jack > > > > When I have been Ill and have not been able to eat I have noticed an improvement > > in my symptoms so there is definitely something in it. All be it impractical. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bannister <beckyb256@> > > samters > > Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 23:15:05 > > Subject: Re: Fasting > > > > > > Ditto! > > I'm not a fan of fasting, even though it may have benefits including detox. I am > > already only just hitting target weight for my height having been underweight > > for my whole life, and I live an active life and find that I do need to eat (not > > meant flippantly). > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Celtic Dove <celtic_dove@> > > samters > > Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 22:54:58 > > Subject: RE: Fasting > > > > > > No I haven't but the salicylate free diet just about comes close to it (my > > opinion anyway) because of the huge list of foods you can't have. > > > > Unfortunately I like my food too much to fast ;o) > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > samters > > From: lbl626@ > > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:21:35 +0000 > > Subject: Fasting > > > > > > Went to a very interesting lecture last evening on fasting. The presenter was > > Dr. Doug Graham touting the great benefits offasting. Has any Samerites tried > > this???? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Fasting, as Chuck says, means waiting to eat breakfast until your tests are completed. And if your appointment isn't till afternoon--hopefully, they've had mercy and scheduled you in the morning--it can mean some real hunger and discomfort (and for diabetics, perhaps distressingly low blood sugar--though it may rebound when it gets too low by tapping the liver for stored sugar)... My doctors don't seem to get too specific these days, but the instructions used to be " fasting after midnight. " I don't know if that has been studied and rethought, but it could be important to results. Let's focus on some basics, MDs!! ________________________________________________________________________ > From: hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism > > Subject: Digest Number 5057 > hypothyroidism > Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 4:51 AM > There are 6 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1a. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: Roni Molin > 1b. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: ChuckB > 1c. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: Parsons > 1d. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: Roni Molin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I really don't care what schedules the doctors think is good. I fast from 10pm to 10am. I schedule my blood test for 10am, and take my meds as soon as the blood is drawn. I bring along a water bottle and the pills. Simple. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge!  Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > From: hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism > > Subject: Digest Number 5057 > hypothyroidism > Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 4:51 AM > There are 6 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1a. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: Roni Molin > 1b. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: ChuckB > 1c. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: Parsons > 1d. Re: big difference when taken properly! - IS THAT > RIGHT?  >   From: Roni Molin >    ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 I never have anything except a glass of milk [with fiber] before dinner. Although sometimes my " dinner " may be about 3:00 or 4:00 PM; but most of the time is later. So when I'm fasting I just have to skip the milk. I don't usually get hungry until I smell food so it's not a problem for me. .. .. > > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@... > <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Fasting> > matchermaam <matchermaam> > > > Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:27 pm (PST) > > > > I really don't care what schedules the doctors think is good. I fast > from 10pm to 10am. > I schedule my blood test for 10am, and take my meds as soon as the > blood is drawn. > I bring along a water bottle and the pills. Simple. > > <>Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Of course you eat dinner at 3:00 or 4:00 pm. You live in Florida, right? Hehehehehe! <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge!  Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Fasting hypothyroidism Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:43 AM I never have anything except a glass of milk [with fiber] before dinner. Although sometimes my " dinner " may be about 3:00 or 4:00 PM; but most of the time is later. So when I'm fasting I just have to skip the milk. I don't usually get hungry until I smell food so it's not a problem for me. .. .. > >     Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@... >     <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Fasting> >     matchermaam <matchermaam> > > >      Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:27 pm (PST) > > > > I really don't care what schedules the doctors think is good. I fast > from 10pm to 10am. > I schedule my blood test for 10am, and take my meds as soon as the > blood is drawn. > I bring along a water bottle and the pills. Simple. > > <>Roni ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I usually eat one meal per day, and typically it is out somewhere. Locally lots of restaurants have a reduced price lunch menu until 3:00 or 4:00 PM and I may take advantage of that; especially if my wife does not want to eat out again. However we will often eat between 5:00 and 7:00 PM, and then I will have a HUGE " snack " at 10:00 or 12:00 PM. BTW, speaking of living in Florida there was some kind of white fuzzy coating on my neighbor's roof this morning. Any of you have any idea what it could have been? [ggg] It should be back in the 70's starting Wednesday for at least the rest of the week. .. .. > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@... > <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Fasting> > matchermaam <matchermaam> > > > Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:54 pm (PST) > > > > Of course you eat dinner at 3:00 or 4:00 pm. You live in Florida, > right? Hehehehehe! > > <>Roni > Immortality exists! > It's called knowledge! > > Just because something isn't seen > doesn't mean it's not there<> > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > Subject: Re: Fasting > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:43 AM > > I never have anything except a glass of milk [with fiber] before > dinner. Although sometimes my " dinner " may be about 3:00 or 4:00 PM; > but most of the time is later. So when I'm fasting I just have to skip > the milk. I don't usually get hungry until I smell food so it's not a > problem for me. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Could have been from the cottonwood trees. LOL We get that stuff in the spring, and it's all over the place. By the way, I know about the early bird specials. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge!  Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > Subject: Re: Fasting > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:43 AM > > I never have anything except a glass of milk [with fiber] before > dinner. Although sometimes my " dinner " may be about 3:00 or 4:00 PM; > but most of the time is later. So when I'm fasting I just have to skip > the milk. I don't usually get hungry until I smell food so it's not a > problem for me. > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Just kidding; I know Jack Frost paid us a visit. No cottonwood trees around here AFAIK. You may have seen that last winter we had 11 conseqetive nights of sub-freezing temperatures during January in central Florida, which I guess is an all time record. The average temperature was 54.7 degrees IIRC for the entire month. This year so far December has averaged even lower, now about 53 degrees [where typically we get into the 70's every day]. That again will be an all time record for December if it holds; however it's warming up today and should be in the 70's no later than tomorrow so the record probably won't hold for the entire month. Still it will probably be in the top [low, actually] 4 or 5 for as long as records have been kept. More darn global warming, I guess... [ggg] Regards, .. .. > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@... > <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Fasting> > matchermaam <matchermaam> > > > Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:46 pm (PST) > > > > Could have been from the cottonwood trees. LOL We get that stuff in > the spring, and it's all over the place. By the way, I know about the > early bird specials. > > <>Roni > Immortality exists! > It's called knowledge! > > Just because something isn't seen > doesn't mean it's not there<> > > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > Subject: Re: Fasting > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010, 4:18 PM > > I usually eat one meal per day, and typically it is out somewhere. > Locally lots of restaurants have a reduced price lunch menu until 3:00 > or 4:00 PM and I may take advantage of that; especially if my wife does > not want to eat out again. However we will often eat between 5:00 and > 7:00 PM, and then I will have a HUGE " snack " at 10:00 or 12:00 PM. > > BTW, speaking of living in Florida there was some kind of white fuzzy > coating on my neighbor's roof this morning. Any of you have any idea > what it could have been? [ggg] It should be back in the 70's starting > Wednesday for at least the rest of the week. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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