Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 The world we live in today is not the same world that Jesus lived in. It is much more polluted. Dennis Mike E Cornwall wrote: > Hyperbaroman > > I did a 24 day fast on water only. Excellent results. I tend to > dismiss > those who say we need to SUPPORT the liver or any other organ during a > > fast. I was slim going in and lost an additional 24 pounds. Also > shed > various illnesses! The body has reserves of needed nutrients to > support > its functions during a fast. > > Mankind has been water fasting since Biblical ages, and before. Read > the > results of Jesus and others with up to 40 day water fasts. > > " If it ain't broke, don't fix it. " > > Corny > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By > joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY > of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 Mahatma Gandhi said fasting was the ultimate therapy, and to fast at the first sign of illness. Maybe if I'd listened I wouldn't be in the pickle I'm in today *S. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 , One of the best ways to fast that I've heard about is to juice fast. You get the nutrition you need and your body gets to rest from digesting the pulp of the food you eat. The book I have to help is called Juicing for Life. I'd talk to a person who advises people on fasting. Don't just try it on your own. fasting > Does anyone in this group fast? if so, pls. let us know your results and any > details on the way you go about it ! thanks ! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 The only fast I've ever done, and it was years ago, before any of the books were written, is the Master Cleanser (aka Lemonade Fast). 6-12 times a day have: 2 T fresh squeezed lemon juice 2 T grade B or C maple syrup 1/4 t cayenne pepper mixed into 8-12 oz distilled water It's actually very tasty, with a spike. <g> I think you are supposed to drink a quart of water with some salt first thing in the morning, but I couldn't get it down. Of course, drink as much extra water as you want. There is a slim book I got in my HFS all about it. E Long in TX Does anyone in this group fast? if so, pls. let us know your results and any details on the way you go about it! thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 ! Eating HB foods will detox your body better then any fast. If you want to juice for a day or so, I;d say go for it, but it is not necessary. Sure you will have people comment that " I felt so much better " but that comes from consuming different foods. We tend to eat the same foods day in and day out. So when you brake the cycle, the body simply " THANKS YOU " . Following LR, is all most of us need. love fasting Does anyone in this group fast? if so, pls. let us know your results and any details on the way you go about it ! thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 It should be a veggie juice fast (and very short) only. Consuming fruit sugar without protein for Os is asking for trouble down the road. love Re: fasting , One of the best ways to fast that I've heard about is to juice fast. You get the nutrition you need and your body gets to rest from digesting the pulp of the food you eat. The book I have to help is called Juicing for Life. I'd talk to a person who advises people on fasting. Don't just try it on your own. fasting > Does anyone in this group fast? if so, pls. let us know your results and any > details on the way you go about it ! thanks ! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Welcome! fasting thanks for the info thomas! leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@...> > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > Bye for now, Marie I think it's fascinating. I believe he got excellent success even though he exaggerated his results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely effective, BUT 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting only under close medical supervision of practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer patients. 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was serious about following through (completely it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice for about 6 weeks? 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers " explode " following water fasts; that's all I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@...> > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > Bye for now, Marie I think it's fascinating. I believe he got excellent success even though he exaggerated his results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely effective, BUT 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting only under close medical supervision of practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer patients. 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was serious about following through (completely it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice for about 6 weeks? 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers " explode " following water fasts; that's all I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 I certainly would love to hear more about this. Anyone have more info? Bev. Re: Fasting > From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@...> > > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The > Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > > Bye for now, Marie > I think it's fascinating. I believe he got > excellent success even though he exaggerated his > results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely > effective, BUT > 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting > only under close medical supervision of > practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer > patients. > 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was > serious about following through (completely > it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice > for about 6 weeks? > 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers > " explode " following water fasts; that's all I > know. > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 I certainly would love to hear more about this. Anyone have more info? Bev. Re: Fasting > From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@...> > > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The > Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > > Bye for now, Marie > I think it's fascinating. I believe he got > excellent success even though he exaggerated his > results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely > effective, BUT > 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting > only under close medical supervision of > practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer > patients. > 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was > serious about following through (completely > it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice > for about 6 weeks? > 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers > " explode " following water fasts; that's all I > know. > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 I am certainly no expert but my instincts tell me one could better overload on the raw foods than to fast. Greetings from the Netherlands Carol _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 I am certainly no expert but my instincts tell me one could better overload on the raw foods than to fast. Greetings from the Netherlands Carol _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Motorcycle world champion Barry Sheene was diagnozed with throat and stomach cancer and started Breuss therapy a couple of months ago. I couldn't find any up-to-date infirmation about his present condition, though. See http://www.perthbikes.com.au/nw_Sheene270802.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Motorcycle world champion Barry Sheene was diagnozed with throat and stomach cancer and started Breuss therapy a couple of months ago. I couldn't find any up-to-date infirmation about his present condition, though. See http://www.perthbikes.com.au/nw_Sheene270802.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 I have no personal experience, but I have run across some interesting articles indicating MAYBE there is something to it. As another poster said, it probably is NOT a good idea to try this without help from a medical professional. AACR Meeting Oct 2002 http://www.aacr.org/1131zv.asp The suggestion is that periodic fasting is BETTER than constant low calorie diet (Keep in mind when reading, many chemos CURE cancer in mice but we all know things don't work the same for people!) [start snip] Method of Dieting May Play a Role in Prevention of Breast Cancer A healthy diet combined with periods of calorie restriction may provide more protection against breast cancer than a constant low calorie diet, according to researchers at the Hormel Institute, University of Minnesota. " The manner in which caloric restriction is implemented may play an important role in the development of breast cancer, " according to Margot Cleary, lead investigator of the study. " There appears to be a point above which calorie intake stimulates the growth of breast cancer and can potentially override, to some degree, the protective effect of severe caloric restriction. " Mammary mouse tumor virus (MMTV)-TGFa mice (TGFa regulates growth) were fed either an ad lititum (as desired; AL), a calorie restricted (CR) or an intermittent caloric restriction/refeeding (IR-R) diet. The incidence of mammary tumors was 84 percent in AL mice, 37 percent for the CR mice, and 15 percent for the IR-R mice. Age of mammary tumor detection was significantly extended in the IR-R mice to 79.4 weeks of age compared to 67.9 weeks of age for AL mice. In addition, AL mice were younger at death than were both IR-R and CR mice. [stop snip] For those ALREADY having cancer (as opposed to healthy people trying to PREVENT cancer), it is even possible that CR could increase metastasis by suppressing the immune sytem as suggested in this paper http://www.herc.org/news/mcsarticles/frame.htm Caloric Restriction as a Mechanism Mediating Resistance to Environmental Disease Lynn T. Frame,1 W. Hart,2 and n E.A. Leakey2 [start snip] Moreover, even caloric restriction may not be beneficial under all circumstances. Although a decreased inflammatory response appears to be beneficial during the early stages of the carcinogenesis process (103,213), immunodeficiency once carcinogenic tumors have developed will facilitate metastatic growth (209). As explained above, in most animal experiments the caloric deficit and resultant hypercorticism has subsided before most tumors reach the metastatic stage. However, if caloric restriction is initiated in cancer patients once the carcinogenic tumors have been established, the benefits of its antimitogenic effects may be outweighed by the risk of its immunosuppressive effects [stop snip] Abstract suggesting in MICE dietary restriction could inhibit angiogenesis (blood vessel growth to tumor) in established cancer: Br J Cancer 2002 May 20;86(10):1615-21 Dietary restriction reduces angiogenesis and growth in an orthotopic mouse brain tumour model. Mukherjee P, El-Abbadi MM, Kasperzyk JL, Ranes MK, Seyfried TN. Biology Department, Boston College, Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts, MA 02467, USA. Diet and lifestyle produce major effects on tumour incidence, prevalence, and natural history. Moderate dietary restriction has long been recognised as a natural therapy that improves health, promotes longevity, and reduces both the incidence and growth of many tumour types. Dietary restriction differs from fasting or starvation by reducing total food and caloric intake without causing nutritional deficiencies. No prior studies have evaluated the responsiveness of malignant brain cancer to dietary restriction. We found that a moderate dietary restriction of 30-40% significantly inhibited the intracerebral growth of the CT-2A syngeneic malignant mouse astrocytoma by almost 80%. The total dietary intake for the ad libitum control group (n=9) and the dietary restriction experimental group (n=10) was about 20 and 13 Kcal day(-1), respectively. Overall health and vitality was better in the dietary restriction-fed mice than in the ad libitum-fed mice. Tumour microvessel density (Factor VIII immunostaining) was two-fold less in the dietary restriction mice than in the ad libitum mice, whereas the tumour apoptotic index (TUNEL assay) was three-fold greater in the dietary restriction mice than in the ad libitum mice. CT-2A tumour cell-induced vascularity was also less in the dietary restriction mice than in the ad libitum mice in the in vivo Matrigel plug assay. These findings indicate that dietary restriction inhibited CT-2A growth by reducing angiogenesis and by enhancing apoptosis. Dietary restriction may shift the tumour microenvironment from a proangiogenic to an antiangiogenic state through multiple effects on the tumour cells and the tumour- associated host cells. Our data suggest that moderate dietary restriction may be an effective antiangiogenic therapy for recurrent malignant brain cancers. DOI: 10.1038/sj/bjc/6600298 www.bjcancer.comCopyright 2002 Cancer Research UK PMID: 12085212 An online paper by A. B. (I think he used to work with Linus ing but they had a " falling out " at some point) available at www.nutritionandcancer.org reports on the results of rat experiments using " dietary restriction " as a method to retard tumor growth. claims that the effectiveness of vegetarian/raw fruit and vegetable diets is really due more to the caloric restriction inherent in following the diet rather than beneficial phytochemicals found in the foods. concludes: " In experiments involving 38 different diets and 1846 non-athymic hairless mice exposed to UV radiation, we have found that the rate of growth of squamous cell carcinoma varies over a 20-fold range as a function of nutritional balance. This suggests that nutrition should be carefully researched as a useful component of cancer therapy. This conclusion is warranted by the magnitude of differences observed herein and is probably independent of the particular cancer system we have studied or the specific diets we have used.In addition, these results suggest that, in the case of therapy for already established cancer, special attention should be given to diets that are not necessarily ideal for ordinary good health " . There is another article about caloric restriction research in Science Daily Magazine (not specifically aimed at cancer) http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/07/020710081137.htm Caloric Restriction Research: Moving From Lab Animals To Humans For more than 60 years scientists have known that restricting the caloric intake in several species of animals can extend life span and slow down the aging process. The prevalence of obesity in America has prompted scientists to consider caloric restriction (CR) research for humans as a way to get America in shape and living longer. Should scientists subject humans to research studies on CR to see whether it produces the same results in humans as in lab animals? What effect will CR have on psychosocial health and quality of life? Should CR replace other human weight-control strategies? Is CR even possible given the fact that humans have unrestricted access to food? Anyway - just some thoughts. Caloric restriction/fasting an interesting hypothesis with maybe a bit of supporting scientific evidence, but as noted before I would think the application of this might be a bit tricky for humans (e.g. advanced patients already losing weight due to their cancer might be " too far along " to benefit and dieting could kill them faster than the cancer.) Not clear just HOW MUCH you should restrict calories during " fasting " periods, too much could wipe the immune system as bad as chemo, which could be the reason for another poster's statement <<practitioner told me that SOME cancers " explode " following water fasts; that's all I know>> Best Wishes, Alternative Medicine Page http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/suthercon/Altther.htm > I certainly would love to hear more about this. Anyone have more info? > Bev. > Re: Fasting > > > > From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@q...> > > > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The > > Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > > > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > > > Bye for now, Marie > > I think it's fascinating. I believe he got > > excellent success even though he exaggerated his > > results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely > > effective, BUT > > 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting > > only under close medical supervision of > > practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer > > patients. > > 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was > > serious about following through (completely > > it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice > > for about 6 weeks? > > 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers > > " explode " following water fasts; that's all I > > know. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 I have no personal experience, but I have run across some interesting articles indicating MAYBE there is something to it. As another poster said, it probably is NOT a good idea to try this without help from a medical professional. AACR Meeting Oct 2002 http://www.aacr.org/1131zv.asp The suggestion is that periodic fasting is BETTER than constant low calorie diet (Keep in mind when reading, many chemos CURE cancer in mice but we all know things don't work the same for people!) [start snip] Method of Dieting May Play a Role in Prevention of Breast Cancer A healthy diet combined with periods of calorie restriction may provide more protection against breast cancer than a constant low calorie diet, according to researchers at the Hormel Institute, University of Minnesota. " The manner in which caloric restriction is implemented may play an important role in the development of breast cancer, " according to Margot Cleary, lead investigator of the study. " There appears to be a point above which calorie intake stimulates the growth of breast cancer and can potentially override, to some degree, the protective effect of severe caloric restriction. " Mammary mouse tumor virus (MMTV)-TGFa mice (TGFa regulates growth) were fed either an ad lititum (as desired; AL), a calorie restricted (CR) or an intermittent caloric restriction/refeeding (IR-R) diet. The incidence of mammary tumors was 84 percent in AL mice, 37 percent for the CR mice, and 15 percent for the IR-R mice. Age of mammary tumor detection was significantly extended in the IR-R mice to 79.4 weeks of age compared to 67.9 weeks of age for AL mice. In addition, AL mice were younger at death than were both IR-R and CR mice. [stop snip] For those ALREADY having cancer (as opposed to healthy people trying to PREVENT cancer), it is even possible that CR could increase metastasis by suppressing the immune sytem as suggested in this paper http://www.herc.org/news/mcsarticles/frame.htm Caloric Restriction as a Mechanism Mediating Resistance to Environmental Disease Lynn T. Frame,1 W. Hart,2 and n E.A. Leakey2 [start snip] Moreover, even caloric restriction may not be beneficial under all circumstances. Although a decreased inflammatory response appears to be beneficial during the early stages of the carcinogenesis process (103,213), immunodeficiency once carcinogenic tumors have developed will facilitate metastatic growth (209). As explained above, in most animal experiments the caloric deficit and resultant hypercorticism has subsided before most tumors reach the metastatic stage. However, if caloric restriction is initiated in cancer patients once the carcinogenic tumors have been established, the benefits of its antimitogenic effects may be outweighed by the risk of its immunosuppressive effects [stop snip] Abstract suggesting in MICE dietary restriction could inhibit angiogenesis (blood vessel growth to tumor) in established cancer: Br J Cancer 2002 May 20;86(10):1615-21 Dietary restriction reduces angiogenesis and growth in an orthotopic mouse brain tumour model. Mukherjee P, El-Abbadi MM, Kasperzyk JL, Ranes MK, Seyfried TN. Biology Department, Boston College, Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts, MA 02467, USA. Diet and lifestyle produce major effects on tumour incidence, prevalence, and natural history. Moderate dietary restriction has long been recognised as a natural therapy that improves health, promotes longevity, and reduces both the incidence and growth of many tumour types. Dietary restriction differs from fasting or starvation by reducing total food and caloric intake without causing nutritional deficiencies. No prior studies have evaluated the responsiveness of malignant brain cancer to dietary restriction. We found that a moderate dietary restriction of 30-40% significantly inhibited the intracerebral growth of the CT-2A syngeneic malignant mouse astrocytoma by almost 80%. The total dietary intake for the ad libitum control group (n=9) and the dietary restriction experimental group (n=10) was about 20 and 13 Kcal day(-1), respectively. Overall health and vitality was better in the dietary restriction-fed mice than in the ad libitum-fed mice. Tumour microvessel density (Factor VIII immunostaining) was two-fold less in the dietary restriction mice than in the ad libitum mice, whereas the tumour apoptotic index (TUNEL assay) was three-fold greater in the dietary restriction mice than in the ad libitum mice. CT-2A tumour cell-induced vascularity was also less in the dietary restriction mice than in the ad libitum mice in the in vivo Matrigel plug assay. These findings indicate that dietary restriction inhibited CT-2A growth by reducing angiogenesis and by enhancing apoptosis. Dietary restriction may shift the tumour microenvironment from a proangiogenic to an antiangiogenic state through multiple effects on the tumour cells and the tumour- associated host cells. Our data suggest that moderate dietary restriction may be an effective antiangiogenic therapy for recurrent malignant brain cancers. DOI: 10.1038/sj/bjc/6600298 www.bjcancer.comCopyright 2002 Cancer Research UK PMID: 12085212 An online paper by A. B. (I think he used to work with Linus ing but they had a " falling out " at some point) available at www.nutritionandcancer.org reports on the results of rat experiments using " dietary restriction " as a method to retard tumor growth. claims that the effectiveness of vegetarian/raw fruit and vegetable diets is really due more to the caloric restriction inherent in following the diet rather than beneficial phytochemicals found in the foods. concludes: " In experiments involving 38 different diets and 1846 non-athymic hairless mice exposed to UV radiation, we have found that the rate of growth of squamous cell carcinoma varies over a 20-fold range as a function of nutritional balance. This suggests that nutrition should be carefully researched as a useful component of cancer therapy. This conclusion is warranted by the magnitude of differences observed herein and is probably independent of the particular cancer system we have studied or the specific diets we have used.In addition, these results suggest that, in the case of therapy for already established cancer, special attention should be given to diets that are not necessarily ideal for ordinary good health " . There is another article about caloric restriction research in Science Daily Magazine (not specifically aimed at cancer) http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/07/020710081137.htm Caloric Restriction Research: Moving From Lab Animals To Humans For more than 60 years scientists have known that restricting the caloric intake in several species of animals can extend life span and slow down the aging process. The prevalence of obesity in America has prompted scientists to consider caloric restriction (CR) research for humans as a way to get America in shape and living longer. Should scientists subject humans to research studies on CR to see whether it produces the same results in humans as in lab animals? What effect will CR have on psychosocial health and quality of life? Should CR replace other human weight-control strategies? Is CR even possible given the fact that humans have unrestricted access to food? Anyway - just some thoughts. Caloric restriction/fasting an interesting hypothesis with maybe a bit of supporting scientific evidence, but as noted before I would think the application of this might be a bit tricky for humans (e.g. advanced patients already losing weight due to their cancer might be " too far along " to benefit and dieting could kill them faster than the cancer.) Not clear just HOW MUCH you should restrict calories during " fasting " periods, too much could wipe the immune system as bad as chemo, which could be the reason for another poster's statement <<practitioner told me that SOME cancers " explode " following water fasts; that's all I know>> Best Wishes, Alternative Medicine Page http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/suthercon/Altther.htm > I certainly would love to hear more about this. Anyone have more info? > Bev. > Re: Fasting > > > > From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@q...> > > > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The > > Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > > > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > > > Bye for now, Marie > > I think it's fascinating. I believe he got > > excellent success even though he exaggerated his > > results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely > > effective, BUT > > 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting > > only under close medical supervision of > > practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer > > patients. > > 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was > > serious about following through (completely > > it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice > > for about 6 weeks? > > 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers > > " explode " following water fasts; that's all I > > know. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Hi, we had one patient with bladder cancer in our group who did the Breuss cure but with no success. pelcka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Hi, we had one patient with bladder cancer in our group who did the Breuss cure but with no success. pelcka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 I have also read somewhere that your body has a lot of work to do by digesting food, and that fasting allows your body to heal disease, however i cant remeber which book i read and would certainly reccommend much more looking into before taking my advice, but maybe its worth more of a look, just my thoughts anyway lea Re: Fasting > > > > > > > From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@q...> > > > > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The > > > Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > > > > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > > > > Bye for now, Marie > > > I think it's fascinating. I believe he got > > > excellent success even though he exaggerated his > > > results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely > > > effective, BUT > > > 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting > > > only under close medical supervision of > > > practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer > > > patients. > > > 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was > > > serious about following through (completely > > > it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice > > > for about 6 weeks? > > > 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers > > > " explode " following water fasts; that's all I > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 I have also read somewhere that your body has a lot of work to do by digesting food, and that fasting allows your body to heal disease, however i cant remeber which book i read and would certainly reccommend much more looking into before taking my advice, but maybe its worth more of a look, just my thoughts anyway lea Re: Fasting > > > > > > > From: cjcamt <aaa.woodwork@q...> > > > > Has anyone ever come across the book, " The > > > Breuss Cancer Cure " , by > > > > Rudolf Breuss. If so, what do you think? > > > > Bye for now, Marie > > > I think it's fascinating. I believe he got > > > excellent success even though he exaggerated his > > > results. Such a water/tea fast can be extremely > > > effective, BUT > > > 1. If I had cancer, I would consider water fasting > > > only under close medical supervision of > > > practitioner knowledgeable about fasting w/cancer > > > patients. > > > 2. I wouldn't begin such a fast unless I was > > > serious about following through (completely > > > it)--consuming only water, tea, & a little juice > > > for about 6 weeks? > > > 3. 1 practitioner told me that SOME cancers > > > " explode " following water fasts; that's all I > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 ---Tia dont fast with hypoglycemia its very dangerous and you need to keep your protein level high. Is your's controlled by diet or other means. I have two hypoglycemic twins. And there's were controlled by diet. They are older now and have grandparents that are diabetic's. So being a mom I still jump on them when I see that they are eating candy by the handfulls. Take Care. You can eat seeds but if you are trying to loose weight. Dont eat alot of them. But keep them around for snacks. I personally like turkey jerky. See ya In , " son " <mcnlambs@m...> wrote: > Greetings, > > Just wondering if any of you have had an experience with fasting as subscribe on the curezone website? Also, have any of you done the liver or any of the other cleanses that he recommends. I am hypoglycemic and wonder if these are safe for me to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 I am only broadline and it is controlled by diet. I have stressed adrenals so my syptoms can be quite severe if I do not watch myself for a week or so. I am very in tune with my body and really know when I have gone to far with the fruit or carbs. Unless you are making the jerky yourself, it probably has some form of sugar in it. I am doing the ER4YT diet and have been for about a month. About a year ago I had a miscarriage and that is when I found out about the hypoglymeia. It took me about two month or so to figure out exactly what was wrong with me. I was very depressed because of the miscarriage and the gypoglycmia was making it worse. I did the zone diet for awhile but I was so nervous about getting sick again, I think that I over did it because I gained 20 lbs. It has been a rough year. Before all of this, I had been following the Fit for Life recommendations. This worked really well for me until last year. I have lost 8 lbs so far with ER4YT and am looking fwd to more. I am still learning what works well for me. My husband is getting a big kick out of watching me as I desire more and more red meat. I feel best aft. consuming a rare steak and a salad with romaine. Thanks for your input. Anyone else? MC Re: Fasting ---Tia dont fast with hypoglycemia its very dangerous and you need to keep your protein level high. Is your's controlled by diet or other means. I have two hypoglycemic twins. And there's were controlled by diet. They are older now and have grandparents that are diabetic's. So being a mom I still jump on them when I see that they are eating candy by the handfulls. Take Care. You can eat seeds but if you are trying to loose weight. Dont eat alot of them. But keep them around for snacks. I personally like turkey jerky. See ya In , " son " <mcnlambs@m...> wrote: > Greetings, > > Just wondering if any of you have had an experience with fasting as subscribe on the curezone website? Also, have any of you done the liver or any of the other cleanses that he recommends. I am hypoglycemic and wonder if these are safe for me to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 In a message dated 2/16/03 12:08:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, mcnlambs@... writes: > Just wondering if any of you have had an experience with fasting as > subscribe on the curezone website? Also, have any of you done the liver or > any of the other cleanses that he recommends. I have done the liver cleanses, and felt great afterwards. I too was hypoglycemic when I did them, and found I had no problems at all. Hanida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 can you post the amounts of this fast? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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