Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 A multi, A, B-100, C 1500 time release, Calcium with D, COQ10, D3, E, Folic Acid, Hawthorn, Fish Oil, Nattokinase, Policosanol, Magnesium and Potassium. I think that's it, but I just got up. If I think of anything else, I'll post it. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> Subject: Vitamins and minerals hypothyroidism Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 7:26 AM I just wanted to note to the group that I have always taken lots of vitamins and minerals, but I've been dealing with afib too now, and so I decided to stop them and see what happens. Well I was off them for about a week and really did start feeling worse, more pain, less concentration, trouble with finding words, etc. They do really help. They are not like drugs though, and they take a while to take effect, and it's more subtle, I just start feeling better is several areas. Thought this might be helpful to someone. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 It was probably an ablation or one sort or another. It's when they burn your heart in a pattern to block off extra electrical signals. For some it works, and for others it has to be done one or more times after that. Right now for me, I don't feel that I want that done. I want to hold onto whatever heart muscle I have. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: H <macbarb0503@...> Subject: Re: Vitamins and minerals hypothyroidism Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 5:14 AM I'm glad to hear the supplements help. I have a friend who had afib. She went to an afib clinic in Jkvl, FL. and and had a procedure done. For the first month or so, she still had incidents, but after that there were fewer episodes and more time between them. Now she hasn't had one for at least a couple of months. Barb Vitamins and minerals I just wanted to note to the group that I have always taken lots of vitamins and minerals, but I've been dealing with afib too now, and so I decided to stop them and see what happens. Well I was off them for about a week and really did start feeling worse, more pain, less concentration, trouble with finding words, etc. They do really help. They are not like drugs though, and they take a while to take effect, and it's more subtle, I just start feeling better is several areas. Thought this might be helpful to someone. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 You're correct in what you say. The vitamins I take have not begun all at once. I've added them as a need was found for more than the RDA of any particular one. I've also stopped one at a time for weeks or longer to see if there was any difference. I have eliminated some when I found there was either no need or no help. I have also stopped all of them for weeks or even months at a time too. The hawthorn, fish oil, magnesium, potassium, COQ10, nattokinase and policosanol wre all doctor recommended. (one of my cardios deals in allopathic and alternative medicine) I am very chemically sensitive and have become allergic to several drugs already, and have some conditions that contraindicate certain medications. For this reason, I and my doctors, who know everything I take, try to keep the drugs to a minimum for me. Also, I could sure use the money I spend on these things for other things that I rather spend it on. I thank you for your concern and input. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > From: hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism > > Subject: Digest Number 5002 > hypothyroidism > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Yes that's what it was Roni. Fortunately for her, it worked. Vitamins and minerals I just wanted to note to the group that I have always taken lots of vitamins and minerals, but I've been dealing with afib too now, and so I decided to stop them and see what happens. Well I was off them for about a week and really did start feeling worse, more pain, less concentration, trouble with finding words, etc. They do really help. They are not like drugs though, and they take a while to take effect, and it's more subtle, I just start feeling better is several areas. Thought this might be helpful to someone. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Roni, Sounds like you're handling this about as well as one could be. Now if we can just get them to start teaching nutrition/etc in med school, which is only happening in a very few places so far. I doubt the drug companies would put up with it. _________________________________________________________________________ > > From: H <macbarb0503@...> > Subject: What happened to my messages? > hypothyroidism > Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 12:36 PM > > I sent two messages to the attention of Chuck. One > started with Help and the other started with PS. They > were both in e-mail and now they have disappeared. Are > there certain questions we are prevented from asking here, > or have I done something wrong? > > Thanks, > Barb > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 You can be tested for these within the NHS. If your GP refuses to test these, I would ask him why in writing and give him just some of the research/studies that have been done to show the connection between low levels of any of these and low thyroid. Not treating these if they are low can cause you serious problems. I would go so far to tell your GP after sending such information that a doctor should be prepared to work with his patient in whatever way is possible to help them regain their normal health, and if he refuses, that you will take this matter further. It seems more and more that doctors are refusing to do the tests their patients requires for no other reason other than to save their surgery money. These test results ARE available within the NHS and are NOT complementary. Ask your GP to produce the EVIDENCE to show that they ARE Sha. We recommend that all members should ask their GP or endocrinologist test the following to see whether any of the results are returned low within the reference range. This is because if low, thyroid hormone is unable to get into the cells, either your own, or through thyroid hormone replacement if any of these show low levels. Should your GP or endocrinologist tell you that there is no connection between these minerals or vitamin levels and hypothyroidism, then copy the following links out to show him/her Good luck! Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)). 1. Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381. 2. SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9. 3. Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78. 4. Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778. Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403 Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329 and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738 and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163 Low copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html Ferritin levels for women need to be between 70 and 90 (for men around between 150 and 170) Vitamin B12 needs to be at the top of the range. D3 levels need to be about 50. Magnesium levels need to be at the top of the range. Luv - Sheila Does anyone know if i can be tested for magnesium, zinc , foliate copper and vit d3 privately ? i don't know what else to do about it seen as my doc says these are complimentary medicine , how can i move on with out these tests?? I'm so stressed out with this today , why won't gp's do these tests? love sha xxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Most definitely ask the Endo Sha. Luv - Sheila Hi Doc has agreed to do the irons but nothing else so i have them blood tests begining of sept.the ones he's doing is serum ferratin, and serum iron and B12 and thats it.I do see the endo next month i wonder if its worth asking him? love sha xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if i can be tested for magnesium, zinc , foliate copper and vit d3 privately ? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Hi just had a sneaky little thought, i notice some of the tests i want doing are done better with a fast!! on tuesday of next week i go into fast, could it be worth me writing a little love note to the endo to say while you've got me in would you do the tests? what do you think? love sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Most definitely ask the Endo Sha. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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