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In a message dated 2/19/01 9:06:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

pweber@... writes:

<< I am not totally finished but both calcium and magnesium (in a 2:1 ratio)

are in ample amounts from what you recommend. I'm finding that

with several others. My question is then, if what you recommend is in

a multi-vitamin, is that sufficient? How come or why not? >>

Hi ,

Sorry I can't remember if you're hyper or hypo. If you're hyper, you

can't use a multi because of the iron, zinc, and manganese. Many hypos find

that they can use a multi--they just have to add more selenium, chromium,

potassium to it. If your cal/mag is a 2:1 and you're trying for 1:1 (hyper),

then just get a separate magnesium supplement. It's really good to have for

emergencies. Let me know if this answered your question.

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Thanks . I'm hyper, Graves disease.

So you are saying I should go for 1:1 instead of the 2:1 that is in it? Can I do

that by adding more mag? For keeping my osteopenia in remission

my primary care doc wants me to have 1,500 mg of calcium per day and

this particular brand (other than taking Viactiv candy like cubes) seems

to offer this with the least amount of capsules or tablets.

And are you saying that iron ( there is NONE in this vit) , zinc (only 30mg) ,

and

manganese (only 10mg) are to be avoided?

Thanks.

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pweber@... writes:

<< Thanks . I'm hyper, Graves disease.

So you are saying I should go for 1:1 instead of the 2:1 that is in it? Can

I do

that by adding more mag? For keeping my osteopenia in remission

my primary care doc wants me to have 1,500 mg of calcium per day and

this particular brand (other than taking Viactiv candy like cubes) seems

to offer this with the least amount of capsules or tablets.

And are you saying that iron ( there is NONE in this vit) , zinc (only 30mg)

, and

manganese (only 10mg) are to be avoided? >>

Yes, add more magnesium to get up to a 1:1 ratio (or even more mag than cal

if necessary). And yes, avoid iron, zinc, and manganese. 30 mgs of zinc and

10 mgs of manganese will really mess you up. Copper will help with the

osteopenia, but most doctors don't know anything about it.

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Hi Nina

I think this link may help:

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/nutrition.pdf

Katy

> Does anybody have a source that lists the quantity of specific

vitamins and minerals in coconut, coconut water and coconut oil? I

don't see any mention of it in Bruce's books, and in the standard Dept

of Agric lists of foods I don't see coconut listed.

>

> Thank you,

> Nina

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Perfect. Thank you so much, Katy.

Nina

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Hi Nina

I think this link may help:

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/nutrition.pdf

Katy

> Does anybody have a source that lists the quantity of specific

vitamins and minerals in coconut, coconut water and coconut oil? I

don't see any mention of it in Bruce's books, and in the standard Dept

of Agric lists of foods I don't see coconut listed.

>

> Thank you,

> Nina

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The fda/DA has a chart on that.

vitamins and minerals

Does anybody have a source that lists the quantity of specific vitamins and

minerals in coconut, coconut water and coconut oil? I don't see any mention of

it in Bruce's books, and in the standard Dept of Agric lists of foods I don't

see coconut listed.

Thank you,

Nina

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I have to find it. Will try. That was too long ago.

vitamins and

> minerals

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> Does anybody have a source that lists the quantity

> of specific vitamins and minerals in coconut,

> coconut water and coconut oil? I don't see any

> mention of it in Bruce's books, and in the standard

> Dept of Agric lists of foods I don't see coconut

> listed.

>

> Thank you,

> Nina

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if its ok can you send us a link as well.

thanks

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> The fda/DA has a chart on that.

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> vitamins and

> minerals

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> Does anybody have a source that lists the quantity

> of specific vitamins and minerals in coconut,

> coconut water and coconut oil? I don't see any

> mention of it in Bruce's books, and in the standard

> Dept of Agric lists of foods I don't see coconut

> listed.

>

> Thank you,

> Nina

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If you take iron, then you need copper and zinc to

make the iron " stick " . This is one main reason so

many people have problems getting their iron

levels up. You need the copper for the iron, and

the zinc because taking copper without zinc can

deplete one or the other. Vit B12 taken without

iron, or enough iron in the diet can deplete iron.

A lot of hypo and diabetic people are low in zinc,

copper, magnesium, iron, selenium, and molybdenum,

as well as manganese, and chromium.

Here's a very good list of supps, researched and

written by a HyperT person:

http://www.ithyroid.com/supplement_list.htm

Excellent info.

Bethann

" The greatest enemy of knowledge is not

ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge "

~ Hawking

sjsj2007

> Can anyone recommend a good multi vitamin that includes Vit C, selenium,

> iron, magnesium and anything else that is helpful in thyroid disease? Im

> currently taking Nuti Adrenal extra and I also have a selenium

> supplement that also has Vit A, C & D and a multi vit with added iron.

> Im a bit concerned I may end up overdosing on something taking them all

> separate like this. My ferritin is very low so I do need something with

> iron in but if there is a multi vit that has everything else in I could

> take iron separately. Thanks.

>

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You are best taking selenium 200mcgs on its own with food daily,

rather than getting a multivitamin with just a little selenium in it. Same with

Vitamin C. You need to take at least 1000mcgs (more if possible) daily which

you would not get in a multivitamin. Again, if your ferritin is very low, you

need to take a strong iron supplement such as 200mgs daily of ferrous sulphate,

ferrous Fumerate, spatone or Gentle iron, the amount of iron in a multivitamin

is not sufficient. Go to our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk

and click on 'Hypothyroidism' in the Menu and in the drop down Menu, click on

'Nutrition and Supplements'. Remember that most multivitamins contain ONLY the

recommended daily dose required by a healthy individual, when you are

hypothyroid, you require much larger doses of supplements.

Luv - Sheila

Can anyone recommend a good multi vitamin that

includes Vit C, selenium, iron, magnesium and anything else that is helpful in

thyroid disease? Im currently taking Nuti Adrenal extra and I also have a

selenium supplement that also has Vit A, C & D and a multi vit with added

iron. Im a bit concerned I may end up overdosing on something taking them all

separate like this. My ferritin is very low so I do need something with iron in

but if there is a multi vit that has everything else in I could take iron separately.

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Bethan and all

What a fantastic document thank you for bringing to

my attention – do you know who wrote it.

I totally agree – vitamin and mineral

supplementation is great but everything works in synergy – I often here

of people taking large doses of these things and they wonder why they feel ill.

Our bodies just can’t take it.

A fantastic piece of work written by someone who has

really done their stuff – a lot of hard work went into writing this for

us all.

Kind regards

Mandy

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H suzanne, I very much doubt that you will find a multivit that has a high enough iron to get you where you need to be- or at least very slowly. I think you will need to supplement iron seperately ( with vit C to prevent constipation) until levels are where they need to be- then a multivit to keep them there. 0> Subject: Vitamins and minerals> > Can anyone recommend a good multi vitamin that includes Vit C, selenium, iron, magnesium and anything else that is helpful in thyroid disease? Im currently taking Nuti Adrenal extra and I also have a selenium supplement that also has Vit A, C & D and a multi vit with added iron. Im a bit concerned I may end up overdosing on something taking them all separate like this. My ferritin is very low so I do need something with iron in but if there is a multi vit that has everything else in I could take iron separately. Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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I believe the author's name is john johnson; i mailed him back in the summer but

he didn't reply.

https://www.natures-own.co.uk/ do food based vitamins and minerals, such as

minerals 'grown' into brocoli, but some of their products are yeast based though

this they say shouldn't cause allergies or candida problems as the cell wall is

removed or something

>

> Bethan and all

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> What a fantastic document thank you for bringing to my attention - do you

> know who wrote it.

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To be honest decent multivits such as Sanatogen are really for healthy people if

that makes sense. This is why nutritionists make their money and people like Dr

P advise differently. I have always been told that ordinary but good quality

multi-vits only really have enough to prevent scurvy and stuff like that. Not

only Iron but anything that they contain, such as Zinc, Magnesium... it will all

be less than what you would be recommended in proper adrenal supplements and

thyroid supplements, or taking a sincle supplement etc.

I take 4 high dose Vit C 1000mg each a day.

Zinc tablet

Selenium tablet

2 Q10 (a multivit won't contain it).

4 Nutri Adrenal Extra.

Spatone Iron Sachet 5mg. This is low but still more than what you would get in a

multi-vit. I want medical advice about taking the right amount and if it's not

enough, finding an alternative gentle iron iff applicable and will post about it

in due course.

All of these contain far higher quantities of their ingredients that you would

get in an ordinary multi-vit. You might find mult-vits that contain Vit C, Zinc,

Selenium, and iron etc but in my mind it's just a spot of the stuff, rather than

equivalent to a professional quality supplement.

All this has been professionally advised by the way.

Fiona.

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> Spatone Iron Sachet 5mg. This is low but still more than what you would get in

a multi-vit. I want medical advice about taking the right amount and if it's not

enough, finding an alternative gentle iron iff applicable and will post about it

in due course.

>

>

Hi Fiona,

Hope you don't mind my butting in but I have found floradix's liquid FLORAVITAL

is a good source of gentle iron . Tastes good too.

9.58 mg iron : 10ml

L

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I like the blackstrap molasses with iron capsules

from Swanson, 29 mg iron per capsule, reasonable

price, no stomach upset. They work very well for

me, and I have had no problems with constipation

with these.

Bethann

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> > Spatone Iron Sachet 5mg. This is low but still more than what you

> would get in a multi-vit. I want medical advice about taking the right

> amount and if it's not enough, finding an alternative gentle iron iff

> applicable and will post about it in due course.

> >

> >

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You can try adding Yoli drinks to your diet. Yoli is an all natural organic

vitamin drink. Better than other vitamin drinks, it is not sold at stores only

through distributors. It has no sugar, no preservatives, no artificial

coloring, no chemicals. The formulaiton is a strong antioxidant mixed with

Acai, Goji,Pomegranete, Resveratrol, White Tea, and Live Enzymes.

Take a look http://bci.goyoli.com

They are having a limited time promotion right now and you can get 24 bottles of

Yoli for FREE. You do have to input your name, email, and phone number on the

website to see all of the information and informational movies.

If you have any questions give me a call 415-613-0853

Take care,

Ken Lomba

>

> Stay away from diet soda! It holds on to the fat.Â* Instead try drinking

purified water (since the chlorine in the water messes with your thyroid) with

flavored Stevia drops.Â* My favorite is English toffee Yum! You can get the

drops from a health food store. He brand that I use is sweet leaf.Â* I take a

good multi Vitamin and calcium.Â* Also over the counter potassium only 1 a day.

Potassium helps with losing weight as well.

>

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> Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 6:45:27 PM

> Subject: vitamins and minerals

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> Do you all take any vitamins and mimerals on P2?? Can you have diet drinks??

thanks for your help

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Hi sjsj2007,

I take this - I suggest you look at the ingredients of it. I felt so much better soon afer taking it & so although I find it expensive I would be afraid to stop taking it.

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Fatigued-to-Fantastic-Energy-Revitalization-System-Berry-Splash-19-oz-540-g-30-UltraCaps/2176?at=0

Val

Can anyone recommend a good multi vitamin that includes Vit C, selenium, iron, magnesium and anything else that is helpful in thyroid disease?

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Vitamin D3 needs to be taken as a supplement AFTER you get tested to see where

you

are. The rest can be gotten in a hight potency multivitamin pill.

 

 As for food, eating lean

chicken, turrkey and fish, an egg a few times a week, high fiber from whole

wheat and whole grain bread as well as veggies (which must be cooked, since all

the crucifierous

veggies are goitrogens) and some fruit as well as fat free milk and a good

yogurt should

do you fine. Use olive oil instead of animal fats, use grill pans so any fat can

drip down,

use chicken broth to saute, use plenty of salads with olive oil and garlic

dressing with no preservatives or make your own.

 

That about does it.

<>Roni

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From: CARRROYCE@... <CARRROYCE@...>

Subject: Vitamins and Minerals

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 9:12 AM

Hi,

I was diagnosed with hashimoto's a few months back.  I  take 75 mcg of

levothyroxine.  I just watched the video one of the members  posted and was

wondering what types of food do you eat to up your vitamin D,  selenium, iron,

magnesium, copper and zinc.  I am having a difficult time  finding foods with

selenium mentioned on the labels. 

I can't take a multi vitamin as there is something in vitamin  C that

causes me to have infections instead of preventing them. 

Thank you! 

Carolyn

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Vitamin D3 needs to be taken as a supplement AFTER you get tested to see where

you

are. The rest can be gotten in a hight potency multivitamin pill.

 

 As for food, eating lean

chicken, turrkey and fish, an egg a few times a week, high fiber from whole

wheat and whole grain bread as well as veggies (which must be cooked, since all

the crucifierous

veggies are goitrogens) and some fruit as well as fat free milk and a good

yogurt should

do you fine. Use olive oil instead of animal fats, use grill pans so any fat can

drip down,

use chicken broth to saute, use plenty of salads with olive oil and garlic

dressing with no preservatives or make your own.

 

That about does it.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: CARRROYCE@... <CARRROYCE@...>

Subject: Vitamins and Minerals

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 9:12 AM

Hi,

I was diagnosed with hashimoto's a few months back.  I  take 75 mcg of

levothyroxine.  I just watched the video one of the members  posted and was

wondering what types of food do you eat to up your vitamin D,  selenium, iron,

magnesium, copper and zinc.  I am having a difficult time  finding foods with

selenium mentioned on the labels. 

I can't take a multi vitamin as there is something in vitamin  C that

causes me to have infections instead of preventing them. 

Thank you! 

Carolyn

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Thanks for the info, Roni.

Carolyn

Vitamin D3 needs to be taken as a supplement AFTER you get tested to see

where you

are. The rest can be gotten in a hight potency multivitamin pill.

As for food, eating lean

chicken, turrkey and fish, an egg a few times a week, high fiber from

whole wheat and whole grain bread as well as veggies (which must be cooked,

since all the crucifierous

veggies are goitrogens) and some fruit as well as fat free milk and a good

yogurt should

do you fine. Use olive oil instead of animal fats, use grill pans so any

fat can drip down,

use chicken broth to saute, use plenty of salads with olive oil and garlic

dressing with no preservatives or make your own.

That about does it.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

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(mailto:CARRROYCE@...) >

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Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 9:12 AM

Hi,

I was diagnosed with hashimoto's a few months back. I take 75 mcg of

levothyroxine. I just watched the video one of the members posted and

was

wondering what types of food do you eat to up your vitamin D, selenium,

iron,

magnesium, copper and zinc. I am having a difficult time finding foods

with

selenium mentioned on the labels.

I can't take a multi vitamin as there is something in vitamin C that

causes me to have infections instead of preventing them.

Thank you!

Carolyn

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Thanks for the info, Roni.

Carolyn

Vitamin D3 needs to be taken as a supplement AFTER you get tested to see

where you

are. The rest can be gotten in a hight potency multivitamin pill.

As for food, eating lean

chicken, turrkey and fish, an egg a few times a week, high fiber from

whole wheat and whole grain bread as well as veggies (which must be cooked,

since all the crucifierous

veggies are goitrogens) and some fruit as well as fat free milk and a good

yogurt should

do you fine. Use olive oil instead of animal fats, use grill pans so any

fat can drip down,

use chicken broth to saute, use plenty of salads with olive oil and garlic

dressing with no preservatives or make your own.

That about does it.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

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Subject: Vitamins and Minerals

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Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 9:12 AM

Hi,

I was diagnosed with hashimoto's a few months back. I take 75 mcg of

levothyroxine. I just watched the video one of the members posted and

was

wondering what types of food do you eat to up your vitamin D, selenium,

iron,

magnesium, copper and zinc. I am having a difficult time finding foods

with

selenium mentioned on the labels.

I can't take a multi vitamin as there is something in vitamin C that

causes me to have infections instead of preventing them.

Thank you!

Carolyn

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Carolyn,

You wrote:

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> ...what types of food do you eat to up your vitamin D, selenium,

> iron,

> magnesium, copper and zinc. I am having a difficult time finding foods with

> selenium mentioned on the labels.

The most natural source of vitamin D is sunlight. Get outside more. Most

of these come as individual supplements, without C, although you can

also find mineral combinations, particularly the metals.

Do not exceed 200 mcg of selenium per day, and take the others at least

four hours away from your T4, since they will interfere with absorption.

Chuck

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May I ask what type of vitamins and minerals you take Roni?

 

Betty

From: Roni Molin <matchermaam@...>

Subject: Vitamins and minerals

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Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 7:26 AM

 

I just wanted to note to the group that I have always taken lots of vitamins and

minerals, but I've been dealing with afib too now, and so I decided to stop them

and see what happens. Well I was off them for about a week and really did start

feeling worse, more pain, less concentration, trouble with finding words, etc.

They do really help. They are not like drugs though, and they take a while to

take effect, and it's more subtle, I just start feeling better is several areas.

 

Thought this might be helpful to someone.

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I'm glad to hear the supplements help. I have a friend who had afib. She went

to an afib clinic in Jkvl, FL. and and had a procedure done. For the first

month or so, she still had incidents, but after that there were fewer episodes

and more time between them. Now she hasn't had one for at least a couple of

months.

Barb

Vitamins and minerals

I just wanted to note to the group that I have always taken lots of vitamins and

minerals, but I've been dealing with afib too now, and so I decided to stop them

and see what happens. Well I was off them for about a week and really did start

feeling worse, more pain, less concentration, trouble with finding words, etc.

They do really help. They are not like drugs though, and they take a while to

take effect, and it's more subtle, I just start feeling better is several areas.

Thought this might be helpful to someone.

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