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> Bee,

> Im sorry for all the questions. I have a few more.

> I ordered the vitamin C you suggested by now. It is sustained release and it

does not have the ingiedents that natural factors does. Is it still ok?

+++Hi Ruth. Sustained release supplements are't the same as " time released " -

notice that it is done with a small amount of Rose Hips.

I also found niacin 50 mg by carlesons labs. It does not say it is no flush,

however it says it is niacin and not niacinmide. Is this ok?

+++Yes, it is labels it as Niacin (Vitamin B3) it is okay.

What kind of coffee is ok for enemas? I know it has to be organic,but does it

have to be a certain variety or...?

+++You don't have to use organic coffee; you can use regular caffeinated coffee

if you wish.

Also I have been using a britta pitcher for my well water. I really dont like

the taste of the water. Have you ever heard of the wellness carafe? Can you

please go to www.globalhealingcenter.com and check it out for me. Please tell

me if this is garbage or a scam or worth the money.Thank for all your help!

+++That water filter is good. It may be worth the money if it helps make the

water taste better.

Cheers, Bee

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Hi everyone,

I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here. It's

also possible I misunderstood. Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

before eating, after taking medication in the morning? Thanks for the

clarification.

Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

before eating. It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

And what about cat scans? They are very high in radiation. I've only

had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

and damaged my thyroid. After being diagnosed with this

Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

it make a difference?

When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all. In our next

discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin. So what I'd like to

know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

function, so it doesn't get any worse?

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions. I'm grateful

to have this place to learn and share information and support.

Barbara

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Thanks Roni. I appreciate your reply, however my doctor has prescribed

Levothyroxin, which is just one pill. When I asked him about natural

hormones he said they don't work as well as what he prescribed, and

cause other problems. So I don't take T3 or T4, unless that's what's

in the prescription.

Barbara

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Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 8:35 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here.  It's

also possible I misunderstood.  Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

before eating, after taking medication in the morning?  Thanks for the

clarification.

Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

before eating.  It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms.  Since one possible

cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid? 

And what about cat scans?  They are very high in radiation.  I've only

had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

and damaged my thyroid.  After being diagnosed with this

Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

it make a difference?

When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all.  In our next

discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin.  So what I'd like to

know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

function, so it doesn't get any worse?

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions.  I'm grateful

to have this place to learn and share information and support.

Barbara

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Yes, if you are able to convert Ft4 to Ft3 then a T4 med is all you

would need.

 

Betty

Thanks Betty, but I'm so new to this I don't even know what that means.

It must be what my doctor thinks I need, since it's all he prescribed.

However, I'm supposed to go back in 6 weeks to see if a higher or

lower dose is required.

Barb

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Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 8:35 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here.  It's

also possible I misunderstood.  Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

before eating, after taking medication in the morning?  Thanks for the

clarification.

Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

before eating.  It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms.  Since one possible

cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid? 

And what about cat scans?  They are very high in radiation.  I've only

had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

and damaged my thyroid.  After being diagnosed with this

Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

it make a difference?

When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all.  In our next

discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin.  So what I'd like to

know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

function, so it doesn't get any worse?

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions.  I'm grateful

to have this place to learn and share information and support.

Barbara

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I know it sounds strange but I don't worry about any of that. I take

the pill with 4 others every night. I don't worry about whether I've

just eaten or am about to eat. I don't even think about whether the

cabbage in my slaw is " good " for me or not. And I don't have any

problems; but YMMV.

I do try to avoid soy after I found out what a negative concoction it

is; however that is quite impossible unless you grow your own food. I

read somewhere it's in way over half of every product on your grocery

shelf; I don't know if that's true or not. I do know that it's not

always labeled as soy, and that is legal believe it or not.

Some things [calcium, iron?] can have very negative effects upon

absorption IIRC so I guess we should avoid those for a few hours. Other

than that if you typically eat or take something that reduces absorption

by, say, 25% then you just need to take 25% more to make up for it. The

half life of T4 is IIRC about a week so any " bumps " in your absorption

tend to be somewhat smoothed out I suspect. OTOH if I were having any

kind of problems with symptoms I would hasten to pay much more attention

to the recommendations; and that probably would be a good idea for me

and everybody anyway. I guess I'm just lazy and stubborn! [ggg]

Regards,

..

..

>

>

> Posted by: " macbarb0503@... " macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503@...?Subject=%20Re%3AMore%20Questions>

> westieabbey <westieabbey>

>

>

> Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:36 pm (PDT)

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here. It's

> also possible I misunderstood. Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

> before eating, after taking medication in the morning? Thanks for the

> clarification.

>

> Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

> strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

> before eating. It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

> hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

>

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

> And what about cat scans? They are very high in radiation. I've only

> had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

> and damaged my thyroid. After being diagnosed with this

> Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

> it make a difference?

>

> When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

> stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

> understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all. In our next

> discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

> that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin. So what I'd like to

> know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

> lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

> function, so it doesn't get any worse?

>

> Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions. I'm grateful

> to have this place to learn and share information and support.

>

> Barbara

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Levothyroxine is T4. If your body wil convert properly, then it will definitely

help you. If not, then you'll have to post here with results from a new set of

tests, FreeT3, FreeT4 and TSH. Good luck.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: macbarb0503@... <macbarb0503@...>

Subject: More Questions

hypothyroidism

Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 8:35 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here.  It's

also possible I misunderstood.  Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

before eating, after taking medication in the morning?  Thanks for the

clarification.

Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

before eating.  It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms.  Since one possible

cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid? 

And what about cat scans?  They are very high in radiation.  I've only

had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

and damaged my thyroid.  After being diagnosed with this

Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

it make a difference?

When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all.  In our next

discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin.  So what I'd like to

know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

function, so it doesn't get any worse?

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions.  I'm grateful

to have this place to learn and share information and support.

Barbara

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Hi, Barbara. Please see below...

..

..

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

> And what about cat scans? They are very high in radiation. I've only

> had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

> and damaged my thyroid. After being diagnosed with this

> Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

> it make a difference?

..

..

IMHO the risk is extremely small; but probably large enough to consider

it. You might talk it over with your doctor whenever you're considering

any such thing. Personally I suspect the risk/reward ratio is such that

a reasonable number of exposures are well worth the risk. Consider what

would happen, for example, if you DIDN'T have a mammogram that could

have caught early stage cancer. There's often a risk associated with

not doing as well as for doing many things.

..

..

>

> When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

> stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

> understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all. In our next

> discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

> that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin. So what I'd like to

> know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

> lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

> function, so it doesn't get any worse?

..

..

First, 25 mcg is a very small starter dose. It might [but probably

won't] suffice if you have most of your thyroid function left; but it

usually doesn't work that way.

What often happens is that you get hypothyroidism from one of several

possibilities: Hashimoto's, tumors, a pituitary or other cause.

Pituitary problems are pretty rare IMHO. Tumors are for the most part

benign, although a small percentage are not. I suspect Hashimoto's is

the biggest cause but I don't know the numbers. Hashimoto's can be

diagnosed by testing for antibodies in your blood and your doctor should

have done that I'd think.

Hashimoto's can be difficult, largely because it can wax and wan. When

that happens your thyroxin output from your thyroid can vary widely.

That means what you need to take in the form of T4 can vary greatly, so

it's hard to hit that moving target to get you the level you need.

Typically Hashimoto's eventually destroys your thyroid completely and

there's nothing you can do about it. But once that happens you then

need a full replacement dose several times larger than you're taking now

and it should remain MOL constant over long periods of time.

You can with some level of success treat tumors and pituitary problems

and seek a cure. There is no cure for Hashimoto's; but once the process

is completed IMHO it's probably the best of the not so good choices.

You can buy any number of supplements and other concoctions to " support "

your thyroid gland. They don't work above chance or placebo; sorry.

You might post your lab results here; please include ranges. If you

don't have a full hypothyroidism panel I'd suggest you ask your doctor

to do one. Be sure to include free T3 and free T4 as well as RT3 as

well as Hashimoto's antibodies.

Best,

> Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions. I'm grateful

> to have this place to learn and share information and support.

>

> Barbara

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Levothyroxin is T4.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: macbarb0503@... <macbarb0503@...>

Subject: More Questions

hypothyroidism

Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 8:35 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here.  It's

also possible I misunderstood.  Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

before eating, after taking medication in the morning?  Thanks for the

clarification.

Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

before eating.  It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms.  Since one possible

cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid? 

And what about cat scans?  They are very high in radiation.  I've only

had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

and damaged my thyroid.  After being diagnosed with this

Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

it make a difference?

When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all.  In our next

discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin.  So what I'd like to

know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

function, so it doesn't get any worse?

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions.  I'm grateful

to have this place to learn and share information and support.

Barbara

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I know it sounds strange but I don't worry about any of that. I take

the pill with 4 others every night. I don't worry about whether I've

just eaten or am about to eat. I don't even think about whether the

cabbage in my slaw is " good " for me or not. And I don't have any

problems; but YMMV.

Regards,

..

..

>

>

> Posted by: " macbarb0503@... " macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503@...?Subject=%20Re%3AMore%20Questions>

> westieabbey <westieabbey>

>

>

> Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:36 pm (PDT)

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here. It's

> also possible I misunderstood. Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

> before eating, after taking medication in the morning? Thanks for the

> clarification.

>

> Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

> strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

> before eating. It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

> hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

>

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

> And what about cat scans? They are very high in radiation. I've only

> had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

> and damaged my thyroid. After being diagnosed with this

> Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or

does

> it make a difference?

>

> When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

> stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which

I

> understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all. In our next

> discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

> that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin. So what I'd like to

> know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

> lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

> function, so it doesn't get any worse?

>

> Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions. I'm grateful

> to have this place to learn and share information and support.

>

> Barbara

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Well that clears things up a lot. Thanks Ronnie.

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Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 8:35 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here.  It's

also possible I misunderstood.  Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

before eating, after taking medication in the morning?  Thanks for the

clarification.

Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

before eating.  It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms.  Since one possible

cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid? 

And what about cat scans?  They are very high in radiation.  I've only

had one of my chest area, but wonder if they started thescan too high

and damaged my thyroid.  After being diagnosed with this

Hypothyroidism, would it be wise to avoid cat scans completely, or does

it make a difference?

When my doctor first discussed this with me he said my thyroid had

stopped producing the hormones it was supposed to be producing, which I

understood to mean it wasn't functioning at all.  In our next

discussion I asked him again, and he said he had caught it early and

that's why he prescribed 25 MCG of Levothyroxxin.  So what I'd like to

know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

function, so it doesn't get any worse?

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my questions.  I'm grateful

to have this place to learn and share information and support.

Barbara

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CT scans are probably good tests to avoid, unless no other test will work.

The one and only time I had one, I said I didn't want it, but the person

who administered the scan in the emergency room scared me into taking it.

She led me to believe it was necessary to rule out a life threatening

condition. Sometimes I think it has more to do with the money the insurance

company pays for the test.

In a message dated 8/26/2010 10:57:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

matchermaam@... writes:

The only thing is that CT scans are very high in radiation.

{ Exposures above the threshold leave patients vulnerable to increased

long-term risk of cancer. As a point of comparison, one chest CT is around 10

millisieverts of radiation and a traditional chest X-ray only 0.02

millisieverts.}

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macbarb0503@... wrote:

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here. It's

> also possible I misunderstood. Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

> before eating, after taking medication in the morning? Thanks for the

> clarification.

>

Wait one hour after taking the pills before eating. If you eat something

first, you need to wait at least two hours after eating.

>

> Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

> strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

> before eating.

>

They figure if they tell you to take it first thing in the morning, you

already have an empty stomach. Some people find they sleep better taking

it at night, in which case they need to wait two hours after the last

snack or meal.

> It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

> hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

>

Calcium, iron, and selenium all form complexes with T4 that prevent it

from functioning. This can happen even after you have absorbed it, which

is why they recommend a long four hours.

>

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

> And what about cat scans? They are very high in radiation.

>

The risk would be for thyroid cancer, rather than hypoT. However, the

exposure even from a cardiac cath procedure (like an X-ray movie) is

still too low to make a significant risk. I would only be concerned if

you had to have a daily CAT exposure for an extended period.

> ... So what I'd like to

> know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

> lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

> function, so it doesn't get any worse?

>

Unfortunately, no. Autoimmune conditions are difficult to predict,

prevent, or even just slow down. We do know that excess iodine can

aggravate or accelerate a thyroid autoimmune (Hashimoto's) attack.

Chuck

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macbarb0503@... wrote:

>

>

> Thanks Roni. I appreciate your reply, however my doctor has prescribed

> Levothyroxin, which is just one pill. ...So I don't take T3 or T4,

> unless that's what's

> in the prescription.

>

Levothyroxine IS T4.

Chuck

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That would be T4; your body uses it to make T3. It's all most of us need.

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> Posted by: " macbarb0503@... " macbarb0503@...

> <mailto:macbarb0503@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20More%20Questions>

> westieabbey <westieabbey>

>

>

> Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:26 am (PDT)

>

>

>

> Thanks Roni. I appreciate your reply, however my doctor has prescribed

> Levothyroxin, which is just one pill. When I asked him about natural

> hormones he said they don't work as well as what he prescribed, and

> cause other problems. So I don't take T3 or T4, unless that's what's

> in the prescription.

>

> Barbara

>

> Re: More Questions

>

> Hi, I hope this answers your questions about when to take T4 (any

> brand). As for T3 if you take it alone and not in a combo pill like

> Armour or Naturethroid, you don't have to worry about eating.

>

> http://www.drugs.com/pdr/synthroid.html

> <http://www.drugs.com/pdr/synthroid.html>

>

> <>Roni

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The only thing is that CT scans are very high in radiation.

 

{ Exposures above the threshold leave patients vulnerable to increased long-term

risk of cancer. As a point of comparison, one chest CT is around 10

millisieverts of radiation and a traditional chest X-ray only 0.02

millisieverts.}

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm confused by what seem to be conflicting posts I've read here. It's

> also possible I misunderstood. Is it necessary to wait one hour or two

> before eating, after taking medication in the morning? Thanks for the

> clarification.

>

Wait one hour after taking the pills before eating. If you eat something

first, you need to wait at least two hours after eating.

>

> Since taking the pills on an empty stomach is important, I find it

> strange that the prescription bottle doesn't specify how long to wait

> before eating.

>

They figure if they tell you to take it first thing in the morning, you

already have an empty stomach. Some people find they sleep better taking

it at night, in which case they need to wait two hours after the last

snack or meal.

> It does say take with a full glass of water, and wait 4

> hours before taking calcium or other supplements.

>

Calcium, iron, and selenium all form complexes with T4 that prevent it

from functioning. This can happen even after you have absorbed it, which

is why they recommend a long four hours.

>

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

> And what about cat scans? They are very high in radiation.

>

The risk would be for thyroid cancer, rather than hypoT. However, the

exposure even from a cardiac cath procedure (like an X-ray movie) is

still too low to make a significant risk. I would only be concerned if

you had to have a daily CAT exposure for an extended period.

> ... So what I'd like to

> know now, is if I take the medication as prescribed and have regular

> lab tests as suggested, is there a way to preserve the remaining

> function, so it doesn't get any worse?

>

Unfortunately, no. Autoimmune conditions are difficult to predict,

prevent, or even just slow down. We do know that excess iodine can

aggravate or accelerate a thyroid autoimmune (Hashimoto's) attack.

Chuck

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Mammograms can cause breast cancer. You can google search for more articles,

etc, but here is a comprehensive link: http://www.naturalnews.com/010886.html

Better to have thermograms. Ultrasound and sonogram are also safer choices.

Sam

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>

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

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That's interesting reading Sam. Thanks.

Barb

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Mammograms can cause breast cancer. You can google search for more

articles, etc, but here is a comprehensive link:

http://www.naturalnews.com/010886.html

Better to have thermograms. Ultrasound and sonogram are also safer

choices.

Sam

[...]

>

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms. Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid?

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I have medicare. I would love NOT to get mammograms. Will medicare pay for the

thermograms ultrasound and sonograms? Are there any special circumstances that

will induce them to pay or not pay?

<>Roni

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From: Sam . <k9gang@...>

Subject: Re: More Questions

hypothyroidism

Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 9:22 AM

Mammograms can cause breast cancer. You can google search for more articles,

etc, but here is a comprehensive link: http://www.naturalnews.com/010886.html

Better to have thermograms. Ultrasound and sonogram are also safer choices.

Sam

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>

> One other thing I've wondered about is mamograms.  Since one possible

> cause of hypothyroidism is radiation, wouldn't continuing to have

> mamograms every year, lessen any remaining function of the thyroid? 

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Roni Molin wrote:

>

>

> The only thing is that CT scans are very high in radiation.

>

> { Exposures above the threshold leave patients vulnerable to increased

> long-term risk of cancer. As a point of comparison, one chest CT is

> around 10 millisieverts of radiation and a traditional chest X-ray

> only 0.02 millisieverts.}

>

There is no threshold and no documented evidence of any connection

between CT scans and cancer rates. Estimated elevated rates due to CT

exposures are still only speculation.

10 millisieverts per scan should be compared to the allowed annual

exposure for workers, which is 50 millisieverts or 500 millisieverts to

extremities. It could become an issue if for some reason you get many CT

scans in a short period. In contrast, a typical cine-cath procedure can

produce about 25,000 millisieverts per minute. Of course, this is

focused on a smaller region and is not a whole-body exposure, but it is

still substantial. In contrast a CT scan is pretty tame.

Chuck

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The problem with radiation is that it pretty much stays there and accumulates.

In view of this, I'd rather get none or a little as is possible. I'm aware we

all get radiation every day

from electornics, riding in a plane etc. I can't help these oher sources, but if

I can avoid a CT scan and can do something else instead, I will.

 

I hope your boy is doing well. I know how awful it is when your child is ill. I

wish him all

the best.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

> The only thing is that CT scans are very high in radiation.

> { Exposures above the threshold leave patients vulnerable to increased

> long-term risk of cancer. As a point of comparison, one chest CT is

> around 10 millisieverts of radiation and a traditional chest X-ray

> only 0.02 millisieverts.}

>

There is no threshold and no documented evidence of any connection

between CT scans and cancer rates. Estimated elevated rates due to CT

exposures are still only speculation.

10 millisieverts per scan should be compared to the allowed annual

exposure for workers, which is 50 millisieverts or 500 millisieverts to

extremities. It could become an issue if for some reason you get many CT

scans in a short period. In contrast, a typical cine-cath procedure can

produce about 25,000 millisieverts per minute. Of course, this is

focused on a smaller region and is not a whole-body exposure, but it is

still substantial. In contrast a CT scan is pretty tame.

Chuck

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Roni Molin wrote:

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>

> I have medicare. I would love NOT to get mammograms. Will medicare pay

> for the thermograms ultrasound and sonograms? Are there any special

> circumstances that will induce them to pay or not pay?

>

Probably not for early screening. Ultrasound (=sonogram) has mainly been

used historically to determine how solid a palpable nodule is. Although

there have been recent advances, it still has a much higher miss rate

than the X-ray for early screening. It is apparently considered a good

adjunct technique but not for primary detection.

MRI, OTOH, can detect early tumors, but it does not detect

calcification, which is one of the main indicators of trouble in a

mammogram. MRI is also much more expensive. That might stop your

insurance even if it had superior performance.

While there is controversy whether the increased cancer risk attached to

a mammogram offsets the risk of not detecting cancer early, the

relatively small size of both risks (for any one procedure) shows that

reality is a long way from " Mammograms cause breast cancer. " A similar

trade off is supposed to be considered for every use of X-rays,

including dental images. Since the risk is cumulative, and the increment

decreases with age, the argument mainly takes the form of how often you

should get one at each age.

Chuck

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Roni,

You wrote:

>

>

>

> ...I hope your boy is doing well. I know how awful it is when your

> child is ill. I wish him all

> the best.

>

Thanks. We also just found out yesterday our hypoT dog of 11 years has

lymphoma. So, we sleep in shifts. :)

The dog gets 800 mcg of Synthroid a day, BTW.

Chuck

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Chuck,

 

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by:

 

Since the risk is cumulative, and the increment

decreases with age, the argument mainly takes the form of how often you

should get one at each age.

 

Does this mean as we get older we could sustain more xrays or less?

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

> I have medicare. I would love NOT to get mammograms. Will medicare pay

> for the thermograms ultrasound and sonograms? Are there any special

> circumstances that will induce them to pay or not pay?

>

Probably not for early screening. Ultrasound (=sonogram) has mainly been

used historically to determine how solid a palpable nodule is. Although

there have been recent advances, it still has a much higher miss rate

than the X-ray for early screening.  It is apparently considered a good

adjunct technique but not for primary detection.

MRI, OTOH, can detect early tumors, but it does not detect

calcification, which is one of the main indicators of trouble in a

mammogram. MRI is also much more expensive. That might stop your

insurance even if it had superior performance.

While there is controversy whether the increased cancer risk attached to

a mammogram offsets the risk of not detecting cancer early, the

relatively small size of both risks (for any one procedure) shows that

reality is a long way from " Mammograms cause breast cancer. " A similar

trade off is supposed to be considered for every use of X-rays,

including dental images. Since the risk is cumulative, and the increment

decreases with age, the argument mainly takes the form of how often you

should get one at each age.

Chuck

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Oh, it really doesn't only rain but pours. My DIL's aunt died last year, then

her father and

then their dog got cancer and finally had to be put to sleep. I'm so sorry for

what you are going through. Thank you so much for giving your time to this group

in spite of the problems you and your family have now.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

>

> ...I hope your boy is doing well. I know how awful it is when your

> child is ill. I wish him all

> the best.

>

Thanks. We also just found out yesterday our hypoT dog of 11 years has

lymphoma. So, we sleep in shifts. :)

The dog gets 800 mcg of Synthroid a day, BTW.

Chuck

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Roni,

You wrote:

>

>

> I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by:

>

> Since the risk is cumulative, and the increment

> decreases with age, the argument mainly takes the form of how often you

> should get one at each age.

>

>

> Does this mean as we get older we could sustain more xrays or less?

>

Yes, sensitivity to (and risk from) radiation exposure decreases with

age. OTOH, risk of developing any cancer increases with age. So, the

number of mammograms recommended increases with age, as risk from the

procedure goes down, but risk from not doing the procedure goes up. The

older you are, the less risk radiation poses. This is why the unborn

need to be protected more than an older person from radiation.

Chuck

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