Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I am a new member of this group. I was diagnosed with autoimmune thyroiditis by a reproductive endocrinologist when I was trying to get pregnant at 39 (using lots of technology!) after having gone through menopause at 36, also from autoimmune causes. My mother and older sister also went through menopause early and have been told they need thyroid hormone (although neither takes it). I know I need thyroid hormone and take Synthroid and feel good on it as long as I have enough. I have recently begun enzyme therapy (three months ago) to see if I can overcome my autoimmune disease. The enzymes have apparently powered the Synthroid throughout my body resulting in my heart racing (one night) and my losing sleep, although I wasn't tired. I lost 16 pounds. My tsh went from 1.68 to .6 in six weeks on enzyme therapy. I take the synthroid with my Vira-Stop2x enzymes because they both need to be taken on an empty stomach before breakfast. I cut my synthroid back until I could sleep again--from 112 mcg to 75 mcg. Now I feel pretty good again. Has anyone else done enzyme therapy to help cure thyroiditis and other autoimmune problems? I am finding I need more Vira-stop enzymes to get the benefits I first experienced, which is consistent with what I have heard from others who have done enzyme therapy, but 5 at a time seems like a lot. I have an energy healer who believes strongly in using foods to heal who thinks I should stop the enzymes and go with raw potatoes! I would love to hear from others who have been down this path and have anything valuable to share. I had my heart stop when an iodine dye was injected for a test when I was a baby, so I do not favor an iodine solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 If you are not making the thyroid hormones your body needs, then taking the thyroid hormone(s) is mandatory. If you or your family decides not to take the thyroid and you need it, you can actually die from not having it because thyroid hormones run your entire body including your heart and brain and kidneys. liver, pancreas, etc. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: anneverheart <relentlesswellness@...> Subject: Newbie, taking enzymes hypothyroidism Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 11:19 AM I am a new member of this group. I was diagnosed with autoimmune thyroiditis by a reproductive endocrinologist when I was trying to get pregnant at 39 (using lots of technology!) after having gone through menopause at 36, also from autoimmune causes. My mother and older sister also went through menopause early and have been told they need thyroid hormone (although neither takes it). I know I need thyroid hormone and take Synthroid and feel good on it as long as I have enough. I have recently begun enzyme therapy (three months ago) to see if I can overcome my autoimmune disease. The enzymes have apparently powered the Synthroid throughout my body resulting in my heart racing (one night) and my losing sleep, although I wasn't tired. I lost 16 pounds. My tsh went from 1.68 to .6 in six weeks on enzyme therapy. I take the synthroid with my Vira-Stop2x enzymes because they both need to be taken on an empty stomach before breakfast. I cut my synthroid back until I could sleep again--from 112 mcg to 75 mcg. Now I feel pretty good again. Has anyone else done enzyme therapy to help cure thyroiditis and other autoimmune problems? I am finding I need more Vira-stop enzymes to get the benefits I first experienced, which is consistent with what I have heard from others who have done enzyme therapy, but 5 at a time seems like a lot. I have an energy healer who believes strongly in using foods to heal who thinks I should stop the enzymes and go with raw potatoes! I would love to hear from others who have been down this path and have anything valuable to share. I had my heart stop when an iodine dye was injected for a test when I was a baby, so I do not favor an iodine solution. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Thank you for your response, Roni. I understand that if your body isn't making thyroid hormone, you have to take it and I personally am extremely grateful that they make the stuff! I have no control over my sister or mother's actions. All I can say is they must not need it as much as I do. I am happy taking it. However, I would like to find a cure to my autoimmune issues, as it led, in addition to thyroiditis, to early menopause and associated problems. I am trying enzyme therapy to help. I would be grateful for any information from people who have tried this in the past. Ann www.relentlesspursuitofhealth.com Every great advance in science has issued from a new audacity of imagination. - Dewey --- Newbie, taking enzymes hypothyroidism Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 11:19 AM I am a new member of this group. I was diagnosed with autoimmune thyroiditis by a reproductive endocrinologist when I was trying to get pregnant at 39 (using lots of technology!) after having gone through menopause at 36, also from autoimmune causes. My mother and older sister also went through menopause early and have been told they need thyroid hormone (although neither takes it). I know I need thyroid hormone and take Synthroid and feel good on it as long as I have enough. I have recently begun enzyme therapy (three months ago) to see if I can overcome my autoimmune disease. The enzymes have apparently powered the Synthroid throughout my body resulting in my heart racing (one night) and my losing sleep, although I wasn't tired. I lost 16 pounds. My tsh went from 1.68 to .6 in six weeks on enzyme therapy. I take the synthroid with my Vira-Stop2x enzymes because they both need to be taken on an empty stomach before breakfast. I cut my synthroid back until I could sleep again--from 112 mcg to 75 mcg. Now I feel pretty good again. Has anyone else done enzyme therapy to help cure thyroiditis and other autoimmune problems? I am finding I need more Vira-stop enzymes to get the benefits I first experienced, which is consistent with what I have heard from others who have done enzyme therapy, but 5 at a time seems like a lot. I have an energy healer who believes strongly in using foods to heal who thinks I should stop the enzymes and go with raw potatoes! I would love to hear from others who have been down this path and have anything valuable to share. I had my heart stop when an iodine dye was injected for a test when I was a baby, so I do not favor an iodine solution. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Have you seen a doctor about your autoimune issues to make sure of exactly what you have, how bad and what is recommended to treat you? <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: anneverheart <relentlesswellness@...> Subject: Newbie, taking enzymes hypothyroidism Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 11:19 AM I am a new member of this group. I was diagnosed with autoimmune thyroiditis by a reproductive endocrinologist when I was trying to get pregnant at 39 (using lots of technology!) after having gone through menopause at 36, also from autoimmune causes. My mother and older sister also went through menopause early and have been told they need thyroid hormone (although neither takes it). I know I need thyroid hormone and take Synthroid and feel good on it as long as I have enough. I have recently begun enzyme therapy (three months ago) to see if I can overcome my autoimmune disease. The enzymes have apparently powered the Synthroid throughout my body resulting in my heart racing (one night) and my losing sleep, although I wasn't tired. I lost 16 pounds. My tsh went from 1.68 to .6 in six weeks on enzyme therapy. I take the synthroid with my Vira-Stop2x enzymes because they both need to be taken on an empty stomach before breakfast. I cut my synthroid back until I could sleep again--from 112 mcg to 75 mcg. Now I feel pretty good again. Has anyone else done enzyme therapy to help cure thyroiditis and other autoimmune problems? I am finding I need more Vira-stop enzymes to get the benefits I first experienced, which is consistent with what I have heard from others who have done enzyme therapy, but 5 at a time seems like a lot. I have an energy healer who believes strongly in using foods to heal who thinks I should stop the enzymes and go with raw potatoes! I would love to hear from others who have been down this path and have anything valuable to share. I had my heart stop when an iodine dye was injected for a test when I was a baby, so I do not favor an iodine solution. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Hi Roni, I asked about other issues, and he said the vast majority of patients have just a thyroid problem, so doesn't see any problem waiting five weeks for more blood work. All my other numbers from the blood work are fine, My doctor seems to think checking for other issues before seeing if this works, is putting the cart before the horse. He said he would do more tests if I wanted him to, but didn't think it was necessary at this time. I have good insurance, so he wouldn't be holding off for that reason. Barb In a message dated 8/26/2010 2:27:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, matchermaam@... writes: Have you seen a doctor about your autoimune issues to make sure of exactly what you have, how bad and what is recommended to treat you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Since my menopause at 36, 15 years ago, and my diagnosis of Hashimoto's 12 years ago, I have seen numerous doctors, among which were a bleeding-edge reproductive immunologist who managed to get me pregnant with donor egg using a drug for rheumatoid arthritis (along with the help of a Bioset practitioner who cured me of my show-stopping hcg allergy--I always had lots of unusual allergies, such as an allergy to deodorant), and a similarly bleeding-edge reproductive pathologist who found previously undiagnosed Chlamydia, Strep (aerobic and anaerobic) and Staph (aerobic and anaerobic). This was remarkable since I had been tested over and over for Chlamydia with every in vitro and it was never found. Anyhoo...I suspect the source of my autoimmune problems were bacteriological, possibly infected in utero from my mother. But no doctor is going to tell me what the cause of my problems is, because they don't believe they know. The reproductive pathologist treated both my husband and me with massive antibiotics (IV for 10 days followed by 2 months of oral antibiotics). While on the antibiotics my allergies were gone, and I felt fantastic. The feeling didn't last which made me think the antibiotics knocked things back but didn't get rid of them. Looking back on it, I can't say I recommend the protocol! Antibiotics are so damaging, I imagine it took a long time for my body to rebalance after that. I have recently been researching how we heal and why we have degenerative diseases, which led me to begin a course of enzyme therapy. Just wondering if anyone has tried this. I am currently on a preparation from Enzymedica which is supposed to help with autoimmune disease, Vira-Stop 2x. Vira-stop is effective in helping the body fight viruses because it eats the protein casing around the virus allowing the body to attack it more easily. I do not know why Vira-Stop tends to be effective in cases of autoimmune disease, but it is reported to be so. Ann www.relentlesspursuitofhealth.com Every great advance in science has issued from a new audacity of imagination. - Dewey --- RE: Newbie, taking enzymes From: Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> Date: Wed, August 25, 2010 11:27 pm hypothyroidism Have you seen a doctor about your autoimune issues to make sure of exactly what you have, how bad and what is recommended to treat you? <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I agree that you can start hypo treatment. I was referring to the fact that you said you have other autimune issues and was inquiring as to what those were and how bad. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: macbarb0503@... <macbarb0503@...> Subject: Re: Newbie, taking enzymes hypothyroidism Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 12:34 PM Hi Roni, I asked about other issues, and he said the vast majority of patients have just a thyroid problem, so doesn't see any problem waiting five weeks for more blood work. All my other numbers from the blood work are fine, My doctor seems to think checking for other issues before seeing if this works, is putting the cart before the horse. He said he would do more tests if I wanted him to, but didn't think it was necessary at this time. I have good insurance, so he wouldn't be holding off for that reason. Barb In a message dated 8/26/2010 2:27:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, matchermaam@... writes: Have you seen a doctor about your autoimune issues to make sure of exactly what you have, how bad and what is recommended to treat you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 anneverheart wrote: > > > > I have recently begun enzyme therapy (three months ago) to see if I > can overcome my autoimmune disease. The enzymes have apparently > powered the Synthroid throughout my body resulting in my heart racing > (one night) and my losing sleep, although I wasn't tired. I lost 16 > pounds. My tsh went from 1.68 to .6 in six weeks on enzyme therapy. > If you take T4 (Synthroid) with nothing but water, only about 80% is absorbed. Part of this is due to binding proteins that diffuse from the blood. In the last year or so, they found that acidic conditions seem to enhance absorption. Thus, vitamin C, sugar, and perhaps enzymes can improve absorption by acidifying the stomach. This came up in connection with the reformulated Armour. Evidently they took out one of the sugars, and no absorbed the T4 component as well as before. You may have inadvertently enhanced absorption by taking your enzymes with the Synthroid. I am as skeptical of raw potatoes as I am of iodine. When raw, all of the nutrients (and calories) inside the potato cells stay encapsulated within an indigestible fiber coating. There are better, more digestible, forms of fiber available. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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