Neuropathy

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neuropathy

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Hi Steve,

I also have Neuropathy...diagnosed by a podiatrist, who by the way was the

smartest Dr I had seen on the Nervous System and domino effects of viral

activity that could connect many symptoms I have. He said if I feel pain, the

nerve is alive...if the pain goes, the nerves may have died!

Some other pieces of puzzle he taught me...the signals go from the feet up to

brain, not vice versa. So, if some nerve endings are dead, the signal is hitting

the brain unevenly, which makes it difficult to walk on uneven surfaces! Wow, I

always wondered about that...just thought it was balance,cognitive in general!

(Even uneven grass in a park is hard for me to stay steady on).

Some other points...

~~ My ANS testing at Mayo will apparently show Neuropathy/nerve damage.

~~In researching ANS dysfunction,I found abstracts on Parkinson's site and one

on CFIDS. It includes that nerves may be damaged from fighting a virus. (I never

even got that Neuropathy was part of ANS Dysfunction)

~~I also think stretching helps the Neuropathy and had a flare-up recently,

which I think is connected to have sprained ankles and not doing the stretching.

~~Massage, mostly medium, definitely helps and even enables me to get up and

walk better/sooner.

~~~I looked up a doctor that mentioned and found that he is being honored

for his work which is...A treatment/CURE for Neuropathy! It sounded quite

serious and not that far away. His name is Vinik...hope I got that right.

He can be found on the web through " search " .

Hmmm, I think that's it. Keep us posted,

Katrina

> I have been dx with peripheral neuropathy. The symptoms of tingling and pain

> are controlled by oxycontin. I hear some one on another site say that this

> nerve damage may be caused but the tightening and shortening of muscles

> around the nerves. I stretch regularly but I have gotten out of the habit of

> stretching my calves, which is the main area of symptoms. Do folks here

> think that it make sense. Surely no harm can be done by stretching and I

> plan to do it. But is it overly optimistic to expect that this could

> actually be the cure for this symptom? What do folks think.

>

> cheers

>

> Steve

[Guest guest]

HI Katte:

I first realized there was something wrong with my left foot as well as my

balance when I tried yoga. I just could not balance on my right leg and hold the

left behind me. Now my left foot/ankle feels totally unstable. I can be walking

and suddenly will get a sharp pain in the bone below my ankle and my leg

collapses. It is not swollen. The doctor didn't take it too serious...said he

didn't think there was anything really wrong but now it has gotten worse and I

fear joint/ligament/tendon damage. Any ideas????? I haven't injured myself. It

just seems to be happening. What does your neuralgia/neuropathy feel like? If

anybody has had similar problems or if you can shed some light it would be

appreciated. Happy New Year.

Teena

Re: neuropathy

Hi Steve,

I also have Neuropathy...diagnosed by a podiatrist, who by the way was

the smartest Dr I had seen on the Nervous System and domino effects of viral

activity that could connect many symptoms I have. He said if I feel pain, the

nerve is alive...if the pain goes, the nerves may have died!

Some other pieces of puzzle he taught me...the signals go from the feet up

to brain, not vice versa. So, if some nerve endings are dead, the signal is

hitting the brain unevenly, which makes it difficult to walk on uneven surfaces!

Wow, I always wondered about that...just thought it was balance,cognitive in

general! (Even uneven grass in a park is hard for me to stay steady on).

Some other points...

~~ My ANS testing at Mayo will apparently show Neuropathy/nerve damage.

~~In researching ANS dysfunction,I found abstracts on Parkinson's site and one

on CFIDS. It includes that nerves may be damaged from fighting a virus. (I never

even got that Neuropathy was part of ANS Dysfunction)

~~I also think stretching helps the Neuropathy and had a flare-up recently,

which I think is connected to have sprained ankles and not doing the stretching.

~~Massage, mostly medium, definitely helps and even enables me to get up and

walk better/sooner.

~~~I looked up a doctor that mentioned and found that he is being

honored for his work which is...A treatment/CURE for Neuropathy! It sounded

quite serious and not that far away. His name is Vinik...hope I got that

right. He can be found on the web through " search " .

Hmmm, I think that's it. Keep us posted,

Katrina

> I have been dx with peripheral neuropathy. The symptoms of tingling and pain

> are controlled by oxycontin. I hear some one on another site say that this

> nerve damage may be caused but the tightening and shortening of muscles

> around the nerves. I stretch regularly but I have gotten out of the habit of

> stretching my calves, which is the main area of symptoms. Do folks here

> think that it make sense. Surely no harm can be done by stretching and I

> plan to do it. But is it overly optimistic to expect that this could

> actually be the cure for this symptom? What do folks think.

>

> cheers

>

> Steve

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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" I can be walking and suddenly will get a sharp pain in the bone below my

ankle and my leg collapses. It is not swollen. "

Same thing was happening to me on my right knee for about 3-4 years. Than it

stopped.(May be as I got less mobile).What is this? Is this related to CFS?

Thanks.

Nil

Re: neuropathy

|

|

| Hi Steve,

| I also have Neuropathy...diagnosed by a podiatrist, who by the way

was the smartest Dr I had seen on the Nervous System and domino effects of

viral activity that could connect many symptoms I have. He said if I feel

pain, the nerve is alive...if the pain goes, the nerves may have died!

| Some other pieces of puzzle he taught me...the signals go from the

feet up to brain, not vice versa. So, if some nerve endings are dead, the

signal is hitting the brain unevenly, which makes it difficult to walk on

uneven surfaces! Wow, I always wondered about that...just thought it was

balance,cognitive in general! (Even uneven grass in a park is hard for me to

stay steady on).

| Some other points...

| ~~ My ANS testing at Mayo will apparently show Neuropathy/nerve damage.

| ~~In researching ANS dysfunction,I found abstracts on Parkinson's site

and one on CFIDS. It includes that nerves may be damaged from fighting a

virus. (I never even got that Neuropathy was part of ANS Dysfunction)

| ~~I also think stretching helps the Neuropathy and had a flare-up

recently, which I think is connected to have sprained ankles and not doing

the stretching.

| ~~Massage, mostly medium, definitely helps and even enables me to get up

and walk better/sooner.

| ~~~I looked up a doctor that mentioned and found that he is being

honored for his work which is...A treatment/CURE for Neuropathy! It sounded

quite serious and not that far away. His name is Vinik...hope I got

that right. He can be found on the web through " search " .

| Hmmm, I think that's it. Keep us posted,

| Katrina

|

|

|

|

| > I have been dx with peripheral neuropathy. The symptoms of tingling

and pain

| > are controlled by oxycontin. I hear some one on another site say that

this

| > nerve damage may be caused but the tightening and shortening of

muscles

| > around the nerves. I stretch regularly but I have gotten out of the

habit of

| > stretching my calves, which is the main area of symptoms. Do folks

here

| > think that it make sense. Surely no harm can be done by stretching and

I

| > plan to do it. But is it overly optimistic to expect that this could

| > actually be the cure for this symptom? What do folks think.

| >

| > cheers

| >

| > Steve

|

|

| This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

|

|

[Guest guest]

Is Lyme sexually transmitted?

Thanks.

Nil

neuropathy

| In a message dated 1/1/03 9:06:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,

| writes:

|

|

| > I know I sound like a born-again enthusiast here, but these are classic

| > Lyme disease symptoms (neuropathy, knee and other joint pain ...). I

| > absolutely believe everyone on this list should do serious research into

| > Lyme, my belief is that a huge percentage of CFS is actually Lyme. Do

some

| >

| > research, and tell me if I am wrong... really.

| >

| I agree with you 100%. IGeneX western blots is a good place to start.

You

| can do their LDA/PCR three day provocation with an AB like Biaxin which

will

| tell you if it is full blown at the time you have testing, but I like

| antibody tests to first tell if you have ever had it and if you may have

had

| it recently and/or at a chronic state (this is my understanding of IgG vs

| IgM). Lyme coinfections are a good idea to check out too sicne you may

not

| have to have been bitten by a tick but maybe transferrable by other

insects

| such as mosquitoes. My Bowen showed babesia in my cell for instance and

so I

| am having MDL antibody see if I have it or have had it, although the PCR

| showed negative. There is IGeneX FISH test too which is supposed to be a

| different kind of babesia test I think.

|

|

|

|

[Guest guest]

Hi Nil:

Thanks for your validation of my problem. Sometimes you just think you are

imagining things. I never dreamed it might be part of this disease though.

Teena

Re: neuropathy

|

|

| Hi Steve,

| I also have Neuropathy...diagnosed by a podiatrist, who by the way

was the smartest Dr I had seen on the Nervous System and domino effects of

viral activity that could connect many symptoms I have. He said if I feel

pain, the nerve is alive...if the pain goes, the nerves may have died!

| Some other pieces of puzzle he taught me...the signals go from the

feet up to brain, not vice versa. So, if some nerve endings are dead, the

signal is hitting the brain unevenly, which makes it difficult to walk on

uneven surfaces! Wow, I always wondered about that...just thought it was

balance,cognitive in general! (Even uneven grass in a park is hard for me to

stay steady on).

| Some other points...

| ~~ My ANS testing at Mayo will apparently show Neuropathy/nerve damage.

| ~~In researching ANS dysfunction,I found abstracts on Parkinson's site

and one on CFIDS. It includes that nerves may be damaged from fighting a

virus. (I never even got that Neuropathy was part of ANS Dysfunction)

| ~~I also think stretching helps the Neuropathy and had a flare-up

recently, which I think is connected to have sprained ankles and not doing

the stretching.

| ~~Massage, mostly medium, definitely helps and even enables me to get up

and walk better/sooner.

| ~~~I looked up a doctor that mentioned and found that he is being

honored for his work which is...A treatment/CURE for Neuropathy! It sounded

quite serious and not that far away. His name is Vinik...hope I got

that right. He can be found on the web through " search " .

| Hmmm, I think that's it. Keep us posted,

| Katrina

|

|

|

|

| > I have been dx with peripheral neuropathy. The symptoms of tingling

and pain

| > are controlled by oxycontin. I hear some one on another site say that

this

| > nerve damage may be caused but the tightening and shortening of

muscles

| > around the nerves. I stretch regularly but I have gotten out of the

habit of

| > stretching my calves, which is the main area of symptoms. Do folks

here

| > think that it make sense. Surely no harm can be done by stretching and

I

| > plan to do it. But is it overly optimistic to expect that this could

| > actually be the cure for this symptom? What do folks think.

| >

| > cheers

| >

| > Steve

|

|

| This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

|

|

[Guest guest]

Steve,

I was never tested for neuropathy. I didn't even realize what it was-in my

feet-until it went away. My feet used to burn like mad, causing me much

limitation-for years. But I had so much pain all over and especially in my

feet that I didn't sort out burn from ache.

What made the difference was the b12 injections. After some months of it, I

suddenly realized one day-no more burning. It has never come back.

I still have unresolved joint pains in my feet, ankles, and knees and back.

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

Steve,

I was never tested for neuropathy. I didn't even realize what it was-in my

feet-until it went away. My feet used to burn like mad, causing me much

limitation-for years. But I had so much pain all over and especially in my

feet that I didn't sort out burn from ache.

What made the difference was the b12 injections. After some months of it, I

suddenly realized one day-no more burning. It has never come back.

I still have unresolved joint pains in my feet, ankles, and knees and back.

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

Dalton,

Many on the support list do suffer from neuropathies. I have had tremendous

problems over the years from neuropathic pain, numbness, tingling, stinging, of

the extremities. I did take neurontin for a short while several years ago with

little benefit.

I've since been using an electronic stimulator for such pain. It's worked

wonders for me. Often it has been the only way to reduce the discomfort and

attain sleep. It's based on the 'gateway' theory of pain, i.e., the electronic

stimulation overwhelms the pain sensations.

Ray Neal, moderator

neuropathy

HI my name is Dalton I have Chrone's the side of effect of this

illness for me is vasculitis,phlebitis,reactive arthritis and

neuropathy.remicade has all in remission except neuropathy i'am

taking neurontin for it but it only helps about 80% of the pain ,do

any of you feel the pain of neuropathy. I would like to here from

you thinks Dalton.

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:51:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dalsig@... writes:

Sigrid

I am having neuropathy in my right leg from nerve root problems associated

with AS. I've tried the neurontin also, with the same results of bad side

effects. I wasn't on it long enough to tell whether it would have helped. I had

two

shots in SI area...and was pretty much laughing at the doctor.....but the

laugh is on me. After two days the burning, stinging, numbness in my knee and

foot

have subsided to the point I have almost forgot about it. I'm walking

without a " funny " gait again and the swelling is gone from my knee and foot.I'm

able

to turn my ankle and knee and go up steps for the first time in 1 1/2 years.

I don't know how long the good effects from the shots will last....as you

can't have the shots too often or it will do more damage than good. So for now,

I'm enjoying comfort....all this while still off my humira and methotrexate.

Can you explain the symptoms you were having, re: describe the pain, etc? And

did your surgery do any good at all? What type of surgery did you have?

Best wishes, Connie (granny)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/17/2005 8:24:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, dalsig@...

writes:

Sigrid

You are right that the shots can work against you...if you get them too

often. They start to effect your bones (osteoporosis), too. I was too hard on

the

orthopod doctor. The laugh was on me. The shot has helped me with the

neuropathy.I have been able to walk up steps and I have no nerve pain anymore.

I've

still not gone back on any of the anti-suppressents and still, my pain has

improved immensely. I'm looking forward to gardening in the Spring! I haven't

done

that for so many years. We do what we have to do...and hope that one of the

therapies/drugs will work for a few years until another one comes along.

I hope you find something that will help you with your pain.

Sincerely, Connie (granny)

[Guest guest]

Neuropathy

> Does anyone have insight as to whether VCO is helpful for neuropathy?

I have diabetes. I have neuropathy. I take many things to assist

my neuropathy, but I have no idea which ones are more effective. Mainly I

take coconut oil to help keep my blood sugar regulated, but it could also be

helping the neuropathy.

Alobar

[Guest guest]

> Jackie wrote:

>

> Hi Folks,

> I just finished searching the archives screen by screen for a protocol

> on neuropathy (diabetic). I know there were posts a few weeks ago bgut

> of course I didn't archive any of the protocols for myself. Now I have

> a client with the said condition. Can anyone forward me the posts?

> Much appreciation, Jackie

I'v just done an article about peripheral arterial disease for the

local paper. The best therapy for neuropathy and peripheral arterial

disease is ozon therapy. It's usually given as an intravenous or

intra-arterial injection. I have studies on both on-hand.

People who can't afford ozone sessions may still benefit if the PAD

or neuropathy is not too severe by increasing Nitric Oxide.

The company that makes Nitro FX, a Noni extract, is giving away free

samples so you can " feel the FX " . This will be of interest to those

with peripheral arterial disease perhaps even with neuropathic

symptoms.

Here's the link:

http://ok.enliveninternational.com/

Noni increases nitric oxide production. Nitric oxide is proven to

increase microcirculation; it is a useful treatment for circulation

problems including but not limited to PAD, angina and asthma.

The discovery of many of nitric oxide's 200-plus functions in the

body resulted in a recent Nobel Prize.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Nil. Do you know what this is...

< glove-and-stocking paresthesias >

in Champaign IL

>

> Hi all

>

> Found a good article on neuropathy and wished to share.

>

> http://www.emedicine.com/NEURO/topic278.htm

>

> best wishes.

>

> Nil

>

[Guest guest]

I did not know but I checked it and I think this means sensory problems (or

loss) in glove (for hands) or in stocking(for foot) distribution.

Thanks for asking.

Nil

Re: neuropathy

Thanks, Nil. Do you know what this is...

< glove-and-stocking paresthesias >

in Champaign IL

[Guest guest]

Oh, okay. For some reason I was thinking an " exotic pattern. "

Like " wavy, " or all over the place, or with many ins and outs.

Probably just my imagination gone hog wild again! Thanks, Nil.

>

> I did not know but I checked it and I think this means sensory

problems (or

> loss) in glove (for hands) or in stocking(for foot) distribution.

> Thanks for asking.

>

> Nil

> Re: neuropathy

>

>

> Thanks, Nil. Do you know what this is...

>

> < glove-and-stocking paresthesias >

>

>

> in Champaign IL

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

I know of people in the Gastroparesis group who have

tried Lyrica for stomach spasms and pain and it has

helped them.

Is your neuropathy caused by spinal cord compression

or something else?

Rochelle

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi again Sandy,

I checked with some friends who have diabetic neuropathy and some

use Neurontin and really like it (there are those who got very tired

on it) and one has just started using Lyrica. Apparently the Lyrica

takes a while to work, like up to a month. This is what her

pharmacist told her.

Rochelle

>

>

> I HAVE SEVERE NEUROPATHY. I HAS DISABLED ME TO THE EXTENT THAT I

CAN HARDLY

> WALK. MY TOES ARE GETTING DEFORMED AND MY LEFT FOOT. IT ALWAYS

FEELS LIKE

> I HAVE SOCKS ON MY FEET BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S HARD TO FEEL

YOUR FEET OR

> LEGS. I HAVE IT IN MY ARMS TO AND HANDS, ETC.

>

> I HEARD OF A NEW DRUG CALLED LYRICA. HAS ANYONE OUT THERE TRIED

IT AND DID

> IT HELP.

>

> I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP. THANK YOU. SANDY

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again Sandy,

I checked with some friends who have diabetic neuropathy and some

use Neurontin and really like it (there are those who got very tired

on it) and one has just started using Lyrica. Apparently the Lyrica

takes a while to work, like up to a month. This is what her

pharmacist told her.

Rochelle

>

>

> I HAVE SEVERE NEUROPATHY. I HAS DISABLED ME TO THE EXTENT THAT I

CAN HARDLY

> WALK. MY TOES ARE GETTING DEFORMED AND MY LEFT FOOT. IT ALWAYS

FEELS LIKE

> I HAVE SOCKS ON MY FEET BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S HARD TO FEEL

YOUR FEET OR

> LEGS. I HAVE IT IN MY ARMS TO AND HANDS, ETC.

>

> I HEARD OF A NEW DRUG CALLED LYRICA. HAS ANYONE OUT THERE TRIED

IT AND DID

> IT HELP.

>

> I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP. THANK YOU. SANDY

>

>

[Guest guest]

~

Here is what I have from my therapeutic-grade essential oils bible.

Therapeutic-grade oils get into the body systems much quicker so that

healing may take place faster.

If you would like to look any of these items up, please do a search on my

website www.totalhealthandincome.com

Hope you find your healing answers.

~ Jackie

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*********************

Damage to peripheral nerves (other than spinal or those in the brain),

generally starts as tingling in hands and feet and slowly spreads along

limbs to the trunk.

Numbness, sensitive skin, neuralgic pain, weakening of muscle power can all

develop in varying degrees. Most common causes include complications from

diabetes (diabetic neuropathy), alcoholism, vitamin B12 deficiency, tumors,

too many pain killers, exposure and absorption of chemicals, metallics,

pesticides and many other causes.

Single Oils:

• Juniper with geranium, helichrysum, peppermint, cypress, or lemongrass.

Blends: JuvaFlex and Brain Power.

Supplements: Super B, Royal Essence, Mineral Essence, Super C, VitaGreen,

Body Balance, Master HERS/HIS.

The body should be supported with sufficient minerals and other nutrients.

Recipe 1:

• 10 drops juniper

• 10 drops geranium

• 10 drops helichrysum

Mix in ½ oz. V-6 Mixing Oil or Massage Oil Base. Massage on location of

tingling or numbness. Also massage cypress with peppermint or lemongrass

mixed with body lotion.

Recipe 2:

• 15 drops geranium

• 10 drops helichrysum

• 6 drops cypress

• 10 drops juniper

• 5 drops peppermint

Mix in 2 Tbsp. V-6 Mixing Oil or Massage Oil Base. Apply oils on location

and on the feet.

If paralysis is the problem, a regeneration of up to 60 percent may be

possible. If, however, the nerve damage is too severe, treatment may not

help. When the damage starts to reverse, there will be pain. Apply PanAway

on location and on the feet.

If the person does not have diabetes, then toxic overload may be indicated.

Cleanse colon and liver with Cleansing Trio.

Thanks

Many thanks to all for the reply on the dosage of

lysine and type of Vit. C. as well as info for

diabetic neuropathy which i think am beginning to have

in my fingers and toes; and policasanol.

[Guest guest]

My son, Luke, age 5 has neuropathy and has been implanted now for over 3 years.

His speech is better than a few of the kids age! He has greatly benefited from a

cochlear implant and he is only implanted in one ear.

 

Kris

From: <wdywms@...>

Subject: neuropathy

Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 10:38 AM

Has anyone had hearing loss due to neuropathy & have you been able to

benefit from CI?

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have definitely experienced that. My numbness seems to go in

different places on my body. Sometimes my chest feels very tight, tingly &

numb. I

sure hope I'm not the only one that experiences that! (does that sound bad?!)

Amy

In a message dated 12/13/2008 1:57:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

laurelarc@... writes:

Has anyone with EMF sensitivity experienced numbness in extremities(Has

anyone with EMF sensitivity experienced numbnes

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[Guest guest]

Yes I have numbness in my feet & sometimes my hands also. Loni

From: laurel canyon <laurelarc@...>

Subject: Neuropathy

Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:57 AM

Has anyone with EMF sensitivity experienced numbness in extremities( large toe)?

Can overexposure to EMF cause this? TIA

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[Guest guest]

There are  many causes of numbness. My advice is see a doctor and get some

tests  done  sooner rather than later, including xrays/ct scan of  the

neck.if all things are xcluded then you can start thinking about EMF

 

Ada

unknown

From: laurel canyon <laurelarc (DOT) com>

Subject: Neuropathy

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Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:57 AM

Has anyone with EMF sensitivity experienced numbness in extremities( large toe)?

Can overexposure to EMF cause this? TIA

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[Guest guest]

My chest tingles..more like stings, when I am in front of this computer. So, you

are not the only one experiencing that.. although, it is more like a burning

sensation.

From: javamdnss@... <javamdnss@...>

Subject: Re: Neuropathy

Received: Saturday, 13 December, 2008, 6:17 PM

Yes, I have definitely experienced that. My numbness seems to go in

different places on my body. Sometimes my chest feels very tight, tingly & numb.

I

sure hope I'm not the only one that experiences that! (does that sound bad?!)

Amy

In a message dated 12/13/2008 1:57:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

laurelarc (DOT) com writes:

Has anyone with EMF sensitivity experienced numbness in extremities( Has

anyone with EMF sensitivity experienced numbnes

“It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was

founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the

gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been

afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.â€

PATRICK HENRY

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