Guest guest Posted February 7, 2000 Report Share Posted February 7, 2000 I think if it were my child, I would opt for the split class. Maybe the transition would be easier around well mannered kids, but I know it will be harder around wild kids. My son is the same way about modeling behavior. I homeschool, but I was thinking about putting him back, until I realized there was a child who is self-abusive (to the point of trying to gouge his own eyes out). I don't need around that behavior, or he'd be doing it too. The reason for me pulling him out of school was that he was the highest functioning child in the class. With no one higher, there is no one to model. Just my .02 worth. But I agree......why can't we find something perfect. After all our struggles you'd think we deserve it. Loriann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2000 Report Share Posted February 7, 2000 I think if it were my child, I would opt for the split class. Maybe the transition would be easier around well mannered kids, but I know it will be harder around wild kids. My son is the same way about modeling behavior. I homeschool, but I was thinking about putting him back, until I realized there was a child who is self-abusive (to the point of trying to gouge his own eyes out). I don't need around that behavior, or he'd be doing it too. The reason for me pulling him out of school was that he was the highest functioning child in the class. With no one higher, there is no one to model. Just my .02 worth. But I agree......why can't we find something perfect. After all our struggles you'd think we deserve it. Loriann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2000 Report Share Posted February 7, 2000 Leah, You sound so overwhelmed. I can definately relate. But when reading your post, you have hit what you need. YOu said: cant they just make > a > program just for her..... Well, yes they can and they must. IT is called the IEP! We sometimes forget about that. She doesnt' have to be like the other kids, just in the least restrictive environment. If you like the school with higher academic standards, and obviously higher behaviorial standards, that is where she should be. It should be relatively easy to " rule out " the other one, just based on the level of activity seems inappropriate for most kids with AUtism that I know! I know Matt would be swinging from the rafters, too, if in a program like that! Go back to your IEP, or if it is not applicable or helpful now, insist on a new one! Write goals and objectives, figure out what services she needs to achieve them, and then put her in the least restrictive environment! She will learn from appropriate behavior in peers, academically challanging curriculum, etc.. Sounds like the other school would pose a safety issue as well. Just remember, they do have to provide her with an individual program, so she can learn in the least restrictive environment. Maybe look at a " regular ed " classroom, and start talking about how much more appropriate it would be for her to be there, of course needing a full time inclusion aide to help. THen when you are also thinking about a more segregated placement, the school district may be more inclined to supply the necessary supports. Don't let them put her in a lower functioning classroom and promise to move her " up " if she " needs " to. That is not the way this works. It is much easier to move to a more restrictive environment than a less restrictive one. If in a regular classroom, she cannot learn (Be sure to get in specific detail how they will determine that she is not learning, and remember, our kiddos dont' test well!), even with all the services you can think of to be provided there, then move from there. Hang in there. Let us know how it went. We'll be thinking of you. S On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:49:10 EST Okieleah@... writes: > From: Okieleah@... > > okay guys and gals.... > i am in a problem, everyone knows we bought a house and are moving > soon.......well i have been to see two schools. the first i was > impressed....its an mi/mo split with 6 kids and two paras. the kids > were all > very well behaved and academically inclined.... the second school > was > strictly an mo....... lets just say i left the school in > tears......... i > would never send ashton there..... these kids were wild little > hellions... i > dont believe in drugging kids, but these kids were wild... the > teacher was > very kind and TRIED to have control. i was there 2.5 hours > observing, > teacher got bit twice, kicked, her hair pulled out of braid, and > several > smacks... the kids were fighting and hollering. it was like a > zoo..... except > these were kids.. and the aid told me this was " one of their good > days " ///// > so i am insane as i sit here and contemplate over ashtons future. > why must we > fight so hard for just a few common characteristics in a school. > ashton is > considered " mild " if thats even a label....but she is very hard at > transtioning and all those little behaviors she keeps hidden for the > most > will flucuate into BIG PROBLEMS. she will start to run again, and > pull the > flop and drop crapt, and the " no, not my mamma " routine. my concern > is that > the other kids in the mild class are more advanced verbally and > maybe > academically, but shes not bad behaviored like the kids at teh mod > program....... where is she supposed to fit..... cant they just make > a > program just for her..... at this point i would rather stick her in > the mi/mo > split and let her see positvie role modeling than feed her to the > lions in > the mod class. i can just see her coming home and biting me..... > she mimics > behaviors 100%........ CALGON TAKE ME AWAY.............. okay i have > run out > of room and bored you gjuys to death...... i shall shutup and go > find > somethign to whine about........thanks all, take care, leah > ps......laura save me........................hehehehe > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2000 Report Share Posted February 7, 2000 Leah, You sound so overwhelmed. I can definately relate. But when reading your post, you have hit what you need. YOu said: cant they just make > a > program just for her..... Well, yes they can and they must. IT is called the IEP! We sometimes forget about that. She doesnt' have to be like the other kids, just in the least restrictive environment. If you like the school with higher academic standards, and obviously higher behaviorial standards, that is where she should be. It should be relatively easy to " rule out " the other one, just based on the level of activity seems inappropriate for most kids with AUtism that I know! I know Matt would be swinging from the rafters, too, if in a program like that! Go back to your IEP, or if it is not applicable or helpful now, insist on a new one! Write goals and objectives, figure out what services she needs to achieve them, and then put her in the least restrictive environment! She will learn from appropriate behavior in peers, academically challanging curriculum, etc.. Sounds like the other school would pose a safety issue as well. Just remember, they do have to provide her with an individual program, so she can learn in the least restrictive environment. Maybe look at a " regular ed " classroom, and start talking about how much more appropriate it would be for her to be there, of course needing a full time inclusion aide to help. THen when you are also thinking about a more segregated placement, the school district may be more inclined to supply the necessary supports. Don't let them put her in a lower functioning classroom and promise to move her " up " if she " needs " to. That is not the way this works. It is much easier to move to a more restrictive environment than a less restrictive one. If in a regular classroom, she cannot learn (Be sure to get in specific detail how they will determine that she is not learning, and remember, our kiddos dont' test well!), even with all the services you can think of to be provided there, then move from there. Hang in there. Let us know how it went. We'll be thinking of you. S On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:49:10 EST Okieleah@... writes: > From: Okieleah@... > > okay guys and gals.... > i am in a problem, everyone knows we bought a house and are moving > soon.......well i have been to see two schools. the first i was > impressed....its an mi/mo split with 6 kids and two paras. the kids > were all > very well behaved and academically inclined.... the second school > was > strictly an mo....... lets just say i left the school in > tears......... i > would never send ashton there..... these kids were wild little > hellions... i > dont believe in drugging kids, but these kids were wild... the > teacher was > very kind and TRIED to have control. i was there 2.5 hours > observing, > teacher got bit twice, kicked, her hair pulled out of braid, and > several > smacks... the kids were fighting and hollering. it was like a > zoo..... except > these were kids.. and the aid told me this was " one of their good > days " ///// > so i am insane as i sit here and contemplate over ashtons future. > why must we > fight so hard for just a few common characteristics in a school. > ashton is > considered " mild " if thats even a label....but she is very hard at > transtioning and all those little behaviors she keeps hidden for the > most > will flucuate into BIG PROBLEMS. she will start to run again, and > pull the > flop and drop crapt, and the " no, not my mamma " routine. my concern > is that > the other kids in the mild class are more advanced verbally and > maybe > academically, but shes not bad behaviored like the kids at teh mod > program....... where is she supposed to fit..... cant they just make > a > program just for her..... at this point i would rather stick her in > the mi/mo > split and let her see positvie role modeling than feed her to the > lions in > the mod class. i can just see her coming home and biting me..... > she mimics > behaviors 100%........ CALGON TAKE ME AWAY.............. okay i have > run out > of room and bored you gjuys to death...... i shall shutup and go > find > somethign to whine about........thanks all, take care, leah > ps......laura save me........................hehehehe > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2000 Report Share Posted February 7, 2000 Ashton sounds like Jen - she can hide those behaviors, too, but transitions are a bear. Put her where they are well behaved. Jen was with autistic boys 1/2 days last year, and she picked up their behaviors and their stress. She is now 1/2 days in an overall special needs class and behaving much better. My 2 cents Kara n >program just for her..... at this point i would rather stick her in the mi/mo >split and let her see positvie role modeling than feed her to the lions in >the mod class. i can just see her coming home and biting me..... she mimics >behaviors 100%........ CALGON TAKE ME AWAY.............. okay i have run out >of room and bored you gjuys to death...... i shall shutup and go find >somethign to whine about........thanks all, take care, leah >ps......laura save me........................hehehehe > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Got my blood tests results back & my inflammation marker or ESR is high. It has never been high ever. I find it very strange since i've been strick on this diet the past 9 weeks. My digestion seems to be in turmoil with my on & off diarrhea & bloating, which I attributed to die-off & now the doc is saying Giardia. But I confirmed with the doc that the stool test did not show Giardia but he is saying that Giardia could be possible that's why he's recommending flagyl. Now they want to do a colonoscopy again & I'm just not keen. I've done a scope 2 times already & both times there were ulcers & suspected crohns but not confirmed. Please tell me what I should do to keep get the inflammation down. My stomach feels like its burning & my hiatus hernia area is giving me much pain again the past few days. I suspect most of the inflammation is in my gut. Tho my neck & shoulders are hurting & my entire left arm is stiff. I'm so confused. I thot I should be getting better on this diet & not worse. Please help. Shirin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hi Bee, Thanks for your reply. Today I had absolutely mucousy poop which floated & was really stinky. I felt better for a while but my whole abdomen has been hurting all day. > +++You can expect to have more inflammation while you are detoxifying/healing, and also if you've had any similar symptoms in the past your body will " retrace " them as well in order to heal properly. Yes, what u say makes so much sense. > Since you are having some difficulties with your digestion I recommend you do the 9-Day Program: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig6.php > > Some people need to continue on a liquid and/or pureed foods diet for longer than 9 days, but after 9 days only do the clear water enemas every 5 days. I started on the soup diet since yesterday & have been blending all my food. I've cut back on my coconut oil & am taking all the other supplements except for mag + cal which I've reduced to 1/2 dose. Bee, with the diarrhea & tummy cramps, do I still need to do the enemas? Wouldnt the diarrhea get all the stuff out? I saw a naturopath today who gave me Fortakehl which is supposed to help with the intestinal lining. Do u think I should take it? Bee, thanks so much for replying. I always feel so much better after Shirin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 > > Hi Bee, > > Thanks for your reply. Today I had absolutely mucousy poop which floated & was really stinky. I felt better for a while but my whole abdomen has been hurting all day. +++Hi Shirin. That's a good sign your body is detoxifying. Good for you! > > I started on the soup diet since yesterday & have been blending all my food. I've cut back on my coconut oil & am taking all the other supplements except for mag + cal which I've reduced to 1/2 dose. > > Bee, with the diarrhea & tummy cramps, do I still need to do the enemas? Wouldnt the diarrhea get all the stuff out? +++You should be doing the clear water enemas anyway. > > I saw a naturopath today who gave me Fortakehl which is supposed to help with the intestinal lining. Do u think I should take it? +++No, you do not need it, since the good fats on this program reconstruct all cells in the body so they become strong, including those that line the intestines - in fact the intestinal lining regenerates itself every 4 days. The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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