Guest guest Posted March 26, 2000 Report Share Posted March 26, 2000 As a chemist I have worked in QA/QC and research and development labs most of my life, and I will confirm completely what Mrs. Smitch is saying. I too keep a running log of batches, dates made, if I strayed from my original formula, testing, results and each entry gets a lot number. A lot number is placed on every product I sell that references back to my log book. I also keep a sample big enough for lab testing with extra incase of lab error. I keep these logs both to protect myself and to better enable myself to reference back and see what I may have done differently. I use my logs as a tool for continuous improvement and not to mention mistakes are sometimes a God send. You can laugh, but all of my mistakes have taken me to a better formula or idea. QA/QC is worth the time it takes, and it does take time. Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2000 Report Share Posted March 26, 2000 As a chemist I have worked in QA/QC and research and development labs most of my life, and I will confirm completely what Mrs. Smitch is saying. I too keep a running log of batches, dates made, if I strayed from my original formula, testing, results and each entry gets a lot number. A lot number is placed on every product I sell that references back to my log book. I also keep a sample big enough for lab testing with extra incase of lab error. I keep these logs both to protect myself and to better enable myself to reference back and see what I may have done differently. I use my logs as a tool for continuous improvement and not to mention mistakes are sometimes a God send. You can laugh, but all of my mistakes have taken me to a better formula or idea. QA/QC is worth the time it takes, and it does take time. Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2000 Report Share Posted March 26, 2000 Do you keep samples of all your input products also, or just your output (final) product? Also, does anyone know if the QA?QC that toiletry companies do is required by the FDA, or some other agency, or is it done to protect themselves, make a better product, etc. If anyone knows where these regs. are, I would appreciate a note. Thanks, Bev --- Melinda <Elecchem@...> wrote: > From: " Melinda " <Elecchem@...> > > As a chemist I have worked in QA/QC and research and > development labs > most of my life, and I will confirm completely what > Mrs. Smitch is > saying. I too keep a running log of batches, > dates made, if I > strayed from my original formula, testing, results > and each entry > gets a lot number. A lot number is placed on every > product I sell > that references back to my log book. I also keep a > sample big enough > for lab testing with extra incase of lab error. I > keep these logs > both to protect myself and to better enable myself > to reference back > and see what I may have done differently. I use my > logs as a tool > for continuous improvement and not to mention > mistakes are sometimes a > God send. You can laugh, but all of my mistakes > have taken me to a > better formula or idea. > > QA/QC is worth the time it takes, and it does take > time. > > Melinda > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as > low as 2.9% > Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply > NOW! > 1/936/2/_/671259/_/954105216/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 In a message dated 12/12/02 3:12:20 AM Alaskan Standard Time, plantgarden@... writes: > Question: Does any one currently Lab Test their products for > resale? Any information on what lab will do this and their cost? > Any other thoughts on this subject? > > Yippee! Good for you. I understand some lab tests can be very expensive and others not so much, but do not know this first hand. I know some people on these lists have their finished products tested after a while to see if they are developing cooties. I think this type is not as expensive as having your raw materials tested for authenticity and purity. I still make products just for personal use or as gifts for family and friends so am not experienced with the testing aspect. One thought is to purchase your raw materials directly from a manufacturer who provides the certificates of analysis or from a distributor who tests the materials and can provide you with lot numbers and certificates of analysis on what you purchase. I believe Butch Owen at butchbsi@... is one such supplier. One of many I sincerely hope. Perhaps people on the list know of others. That might be a much less expensive way to go. Will you let us all know what you learn? Thank you. :-) Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 The National Osteoporosis Foundation is recommending 1200-1500mg Ca Citrate and 2000IU Vit D3 for RYGB pts. We advise 30mg elemental Fe fumarate, gluconate, or ferronyl carbonyl daily. in addtn to MV. For B12 we advise 500 mcg twice weekly or 1000mcg weekly sublingually (all these doses are for prevention of deficiency not treatment). Amy Long Carrera MS, RD Clinical Dietitian Northridge Hospital Medical Center & Center for Weight Loss Surgery Northridge, CA Amy.Long@... 818-885-8500 x4034 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jbach11Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: lab testing Is everyone following the recommendations for 1200-200 mg calcium citrate with vitamin D? I have been recommending a total of 1200, by supplement and diet, but am wondering if I should be recommending more. Also, is the 40-65 mg iron in addition to the iron in the MVI? We typically have pts take sublingual b12, 500-1000 mcg daily. Anyone else?>> New recommendations from AACE, ASPEN, the Obesity Society, and ASMBS> state every 3-6mos for the first year then yearly therafter (CBC, PLT,> Lytes, Gluc, Fe & Ferr, B12/MMA/HCy, LFTs, Lipid profile, 25(OH)> vitaminD). See www.aace.com and click on Publications. It seems we could> also add to that RBC Folate, B1 and B6 to be on the safe side.> Hope this helps,> Amy Long Carrera MS, RD > Clinical Dietitian > Northridge Hospital Medical Center & > Center for Weight Loss Surgery > Northridge, CA > Amy.Long@... > 818-885-8500 x4034 > > > ________________________________> > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of> darabergen> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:34 PM> > Subject: lab testing> > > > I checked the files but I didn't see info on recommended timing and > types of lab testing after surgery. Does anyone have a standard > protocol? I.E. At 3 months, test...., At 6 mos. test..... Thanks as > always!> -Dara> www.darabergen.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Bee: Schmidt here. I just wanted to update you that I visited a doctor by the name of Dr. Wand at Midwest Wellness Center here in Minneapolis, MN. He is a holistic doctor and I am very excited to be working with him. I had blood testing and urine testing done last Thursday and also 3 days worth of stool sample that I'm in the middle of at home, (my least favorite.) The tests show levels of vitamin and minerals in your body and what needs to be leveled out, (i.e. magnesium vitamin D, etc.) Very intriguing. Also, he has started me on HCl and also 2 tsp. Magnesium Phosphate daily. www.midwestwellness.com I'm a little frustrated today as I took the 10 oz. bottle of Magnesium Ciltrate last night as a laxative and I literally had barely results if any. I've got a call into my doctor due to my concern to see if this is serious but it seems to be right on as I could lose/gain 15 lbs. in 3 days due ton indigestion and fluid retention. Does this seem normal or do you feel I should be concerned? Once my lab results come back I head to Lacrosse, WI to Allergy Associates. Are you familiar with this practice? They do conclusive Candida testing and the doctor I'm seeing was a good friend and cohort to Dr. Crook who authored, " The Yeast Connection. " I find that all of this is expensive, however, necessary to restore me to optimal health along with your recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 > > Bee: > > Schmidt here. I just wanted to update you that I visited a doctor by the name of Dr. Wand at Midwest Wellness Center here in Minneapolis, MN. He is a holistic doctor and I am very excited to be working with him. I had blood testing and urine testing done last Thursday and also 3 days worth of stool sample that I'm in the middle of at home, (my least favorite.) The tests show levels of vitamin and minerals in your body and what needs to be leveled out, (i.e. magnesium vitamin D, etc.) Very intriguing. Also, he has started me on HCl and also 2 tsp. Magnesium Phosphate daily. www.midwestwellness.com +++Hi . Weldome to our group. It isn't advisable to rely on any tests to take supplements, since your body re-balances all of its nutrients, only taking those I recommend along with my diet. +++Taking more of one supplement in an effort to increase its level doesn't work. For example, if you take more Vitamin D than necessary, it means you must take more calcium, and more calcium requires more magnesium, and so on and so on. +++It appears your good doctor doesn't know that the body re-balances all nutrients naturally as it heals, and he does not know what constitutes " proper nutrition " so he prescribes Magnesium without calcium, and will probably recommend other similar nutrients that are either not required on my program, or they are imbalanced. > I'm a little frustrated today as I took the 10 oz. bottle of Magnesium Ciltrate last night as a laxative and I literally had barely results if any. I've got a call into my doctor due to my concern to see if this is serious but it seems to be right on as I could lose/gain 15 lbs. in 3 days due ton indigestion and fluid retention. Does this seem normal or do you feel I should be concerned? +++It may take more than magnesium to help your consipation since so many factors are involved, including your diet and other supplements, and whether you are intaking enough " good " fats like I recommend. > > Once my lab results come back I head to Lacrosse, WI to Allergy Associates. Are you familiar with this practice? They do conclusive Candida testing and the doctor I'm seeing was a good friend and cohort to Dr. Crook who authored, " The Yeast Connection. " +++No I'm not familiar with it. Just so you know, there are no tests that can be conclusive for candida - see this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro3.php +++I know personally that Dr. Crook's recommendations are not right for candida, which put me through a lot of needless suffering. > > I find that all of this is expensive, however, necessary to restore me to optimal health along with your recommendations. +++All you need is my program, since seeing others, even though they have good intentions, may just confuse you. Too many treatments can overwhelm your body and interfere with natural healing processes too. Candida is only cured by building up the immune system, mainly with " proper nutrients " which is what my program does. +++I suggest you read 2 articles: How to Successfully Overcome Candida, and Curing Candida, How to Get Started: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php +++For encouragement and the miracles of this program see these many Success Stories by members of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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