Guest guest Posted January 31, 2000 Report Share Posted January 31, 2000 I did some research today and found the company name is Eden Foods and their number is 1-800-248-0320- web site is www.edenfoods.com and there is supposed to be something on the site about this product - the Bifa-15. It is $34.99 for a box of 30 (packets, I guess) basically a month's supply with a $5.00 shipping charge (no matter how many boxes you purchase). I haven't yet found the number for Jarrow but my NEEDS catalog shows 2 products Jarro-Dophilus + FOS and Bifidus Balance + FOS but no mention of a TH1 formula through NEEDS. Marty Z. martyz@... Re Probiotics From: " Moffett " <goldrun@...> Thanks Marty for posting these links. My question is, as mentioned below from Konlee's page, where does one find the " Vital Biotics " he highly recommends, apparantly formulated by Dr, Hower of Voyager Group? Also, does anyone know when Jarrow's Formula will have available the new Th1 Probiotic product? Thanks in advance for any input. >>I’ve written about soil-based organisms extensively in the past and several persons with CFIDS and HIV have said that they have been helped with Nature’s Biotics. However, with Nature’s Biotics, some persons have had to take it 2 or 3 months before they finally had normal stools - those large diameter floaters. Another formulation called “Vital Biotics” seems to work faster - restoring normal stools in 2 to 3 weeks or even less. This formulation was developed by Dr. Hower MD for Voyager Group (Carlsbad, CA), the manufacturer. It was formulated from 10 strains that are naturally found on organic fruits and vegetables. This includes soil-based organisms and powerful TH1 promoting strains like L Plantarum and L Casei along with lactic acid forming strains like L Salivarius, Acidophilus and DDS-1 Acidophilus plus Bifidus, Brevis, Rhamnosus, Bulgaricus and Lactis in a base of FOS (from artichokes) that promotes intestinal flora growth. One billion of each of 10 strains are reported to have been placed in the formula along with the SBO’s. Irrespective of what is reported to be in the formula, the anecdotal reports tell us at the end point that matters how the product benefits the patient. Several persons have told me who have used both Natures Biotics and Vital Biotics that both are very beneficial in restoring normal stools but that the Vital Biotics works faster with fewer capsules. Having tried both brands for an extended period of time, I am convinced that the Vital Biotics formula is the best over-the-counter (OTC) brand currently available. However, it is missing one strain that is critical to producing acetic acid, the acid found in apple cider vinegar that is reported to kill gram negative bacteria. Gram negative bacteria that produce toxins are the type that like to inhabit a colon that has a higher pH in an alkaline direction. The strain that produces both acetic acid and lactic acid is Bifidobacterium Longum (B. Longum). B Longum also promotes IgA, an immunoglobulin that supports mucosal immunity. The best combination is to use both Vital Biotics along with product called Bifa-15 or the new upcoming “Th1 Probiotics” from Jarrow Formulas that will also contain B Longum. Bifa-15 and Th1 Probiotics Within the past few months, Eden Foods has introduced to health food stores a new probiotic called Bifa 15 that contains microencapsulated B. Longum designed to get past the stomach acids and reach the colon. This product deserves special watching as acetic acid will produce a very hostile environment to HIV, Candida and most other infections of the large intestines. On 9/30/99 I spoke with Pamela D who told me of her personal experience using Bifa-15. She had suffered badly from candida albicans, was intolerant to wheat (gluten intolerance) and had multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) and numerous allergies. After using one packet of the formulation daily for 6 weeks, she reported normal stools, more energy, better sleep and that most of her symptoms had gone away. She said she no longer is sensitive to perfumes. Bifa-15 is expected to be very helpful for persons immune-compromised whose colon pH is too alkaline. TH1 Probiotics - now under development by Jarrow Formulas will contain one billion B longum per serving along with 1/2 billion S. Boulardi and high concentrations of L Casei and L Plantarum - both heat treated so as to be safe to use in persons with leaky gut who are severely immune compromised.<< ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 > > > Hi Bee > > I was just wondering what everyone is taking for probiotics? Can you recommend a good one that won't cost me an arm and a leg. I've been on this program since June and have not taken any yet. That may be some of the problem with my bowels. dry mouth and bad breath. I did a spit test this morning and it was scary, lots of long white strings hanging in the water, the worst I have seen it yet. I was eating sauerkraut, but not anymore as the last few batches I made spolied. I've bought a few but they are so expensive. +++Hi Madonna. Probiotics are very unimportant compared to " proper nutrients " so you can save your money, since your body will create the healthy bacteria it requires as your immune system is built up. Do not rely on the spit test as it is highly inaccurate. More than likely your bowel problems, dry mouth and bad breath are " retracing " of previous similar problems and/or die-off symptoms. Just keep doing the program and you will do just fine. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 > > > I was wondering how long should one take probiotics? I've just finished my 1st bottle of 30 and my bowel movements have greatly improved. +++Hi Madonna. You can take them a long time; I took them 2 1/2 years during my candida cure. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 ** thanks Bee .... I found some Trophic, going to get them today .... I've been taking 6 billion units per day and it has helped me big time, it even took away the bad breath I was having so I'm happy Happy Saturday Bee and everyone hugs to you too Bee Madonna > > +++Madonna. See if you can find Trophic Brand Non-Dairy Acidophilus. > Ensure you do not take more than 10 billion units per day (in divided > doses), which for most products means you dump out the capsule since they > contain too much. That also lowers the costs. > > Luv & Hugs, Bee : > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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