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Hi Everyone,

 

My son had his surgery May 5th (T-2-T-12).  Hi back seems fine but on his front

he has one breast higher and larger than the other( his left side) and right

below his ribs on his right side, to the side of his stomach, is a larger

thickening than on the other side.  His chest x-ray came out normal.  Has anyone

ever heard of this happening.  The doctor said when the spine is shifted other

parts of the body shift such as the intestines, etc.  It is more how it looks

than effecting him in any way but I don't think it should be this way , was

never told of this possibility and don't think this is right.  

From: Patti <pattijohnson@...>

Subject: Re: RE: New to List

Scoliosis Treatment

Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:51 AM

and ,

You are in my prayers and you struggle with this enormous decision and set of

circumstances as severe as I have ever heard. I am fused from T-4 to Sacrum, but

have none of the other issues you describe. My curvature was 94 degrees, now

corrected to 59 degrees. Not much correction, but at least gave me a chance at

having a future without lung complications. You are a very brave mother to make

this decision. Recovery is tough in the beginning and he will require a lot of

care. I hope you have someone strong helping taking care of you. There are lots

of folks on this list who will help keep your spirts up, so let us know how it's

going, and know that we will be praying for a good outcome.

Patti

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Hi, we're new to the list and unfortunately I've only had a chance to read a

little of what others have been going through with your own scoliosis

issues. Because of that, I won't expect a lot of feedback on our problems but I

believe it will at least help us if I write it down.

My 20 year old son is scheduled to have the spinal fusion surgery on August

27th. His will be from T4 to the sacrum. His tail bone is also protruding,

causing him much pain but they may or may not deal with that at the same time.

His main problems however do not lie with his scoliosis. He has severe

respiratory difficulties on an ongoing basis, he has a trach and is on a

ventilator at night. He is mentally deficient and non verbal. G-tube fed,

visually

impaired and is spastic. He's on a number of medications, including baclofen,

muscle relaxant, etc.

He has 90 degree curvature.

I have nursing care for my son but recently one of the caregivers told me

that if he dies that I shouldn't cry because I made the decision for the

surgery.

The surgeon believes the surgery is indicated. I feel we are in a real

catch 22. During the recovery process, I am so afraid that he will run into

severe respiratory problems trying to clear his lungs of secretions and develop

pneumonia, which he is very prone to do on a normal basis.

Thank you for letting us air our issues.

Best wishes to all of you who are going through your own issues in dealing

with scoliosis.

Michele and my son

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Antibodies from vaccines are made to last in the body by using an

adjunct (or a chemical or adgent to drive the immune system crazy.)

Most vaccines (if not all) use aluminium. The aluminium makes the

body go crazy and send to immune system into overdrive. This keeps

the virus (like polio, chicken pox, mmr...) active so that if the

body comes across the REAL virus, the body will attack the virus

before it makes you sick.

The reason that you have to get revaccinated with tetnus ans pertusus

is because they do not last long. MMR you now get 2 and chicken pox

you may have to get every 5 years or so for the rest of your life to

keep you " immune. "

I'm not sure about the question about receiving 3 tetnus shots during

pregnancy. In the US we do not receive these. I do know now that

they are encouraging new parents to recive the pertusus vaccine to

protect their babies.

The only way to pass immunity onto you baby is if you have had the

actual disease and this only last for a short time. After that time,

the baby is suseptable again.

Hope that helps!

andrea in Kansas

>

> Hello again and thank you all for giving me so much mind fodder to

> chew on! I am still struggling to understand how have diseases

related

> deaths declined in India...is it due to vaccines or not. I am not

able

> to word this better actually. I mean to go back to my previous

> question which I had asked few weeks back regarding what is it about

> under-developed nations that scares so many non-vaxers.

>

> I have different question now. I know that vaccine-induced immunity

> does not go from mother to child...or so I think. I hope I am right.

> Then why is it that pregnant ladies receive three shots of tetanus?

>

> Also I would like to know that since my DD has been unfortunately

> vaxed with HiB, DPaT, Hep B...will she or won't she pass any

> antibodies to her children in future. I know the Pertussis is

useless

> at transmission and she may or may not get it in future. So can she

> pass antibodies to her kids? I am thinking the answer is a BIG FAT

NO

> but no harm in asking right? Also she has not received the MMR vax

so

> can I take solace in the fact that if at all she acquires these

> diseases, she will be able to pass on some immunity to her

offspring?

>

> Thanks for keeping my little brain busy :)

>

> Deepali

>

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Actually disease deaths in India are declining, but so is vaccination

use. In fact, the more the vaccination coverage decreases, the more

infant mortality rate does too. More people are moving out of

villages and into cities where they have access to basic medical care

and are able to deliver babies in more sanitary conditions. Plus,

what is happening to India? It's economy is growing like crazy.

This means more money, better sanitation, food, less crowded living

spaces, etc. Same as the history of the U.S.

Plus, I'm not sure of the answer here, but you have to ask...disease

related deaths have decreased, but have other cause deaths increase

(like vaccine related deaths or SIDS?) Also, autism is one of the

fastest growing conditions in India, what kind of help are these

children able to get there?

Vida

>

> Hello again and thank you all for giving me so much mind fodder to

> chew on! I am still struggling to understand how have diseases

related

> deaths declined in India...is it due to vaccines or not. I am not

able

> to word this better actually. I mean to go back to my previous

> question which I had asked few weeks back regarding what is it about

> under-developed nations that scares so many non-vaxers.

>

> I have different question now. I know that vaccine-induced immunity

> does not go from mother to child...or so I think. I hope I am right.

> Then why is it that pregnant ladies receive three shots of tetanus?

>

> Also I would like to know that since my DD has been unfortunately

> vaxed with HiB, DPaT, Hep B...will she or won't she pass any

> antibodies to her children in future. I know the Pertussis is

useless

> at transmission and she may or may not get it in future. So can she

> pass antibodies to her kids? I am thinking the answer is a BIG FAT

NO

> but no harm in asking right? Also she has not received the MMR vax

so

> can I take solace in the fact that if at all she acquires these

> diseases, she will be able to pass on some immunity to her

offspring?

>

> Thanks for keeping my little brain busy :)

>

> Deepali

>

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Hello Deepali, 

I am so sorry to say that this may provide an answer re 3 unnecessary tetanus

jabs during pregnancy.

 

  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5324512.html

Title:

[Gln']-luteinizing hormone releasing hormone conjugate of tetanus vaccine and

its uses

Document Type and Number:

United States Patent 5324512

Abstract:

The present prevention provides an effective, fast acting method of vaccination

useful in suppressing gonadotropic hormone release. The vaccine utilizes LHRH

conjugated at its amino terminus to a protein carrier and can be mixed with

either adjuvants or detergents in order to provide an effect vaccine.

 

It has happened to the Akha women in nthn Thailand,

 

to women in the ines, also Nigeria, Mexico and Taiwan, I believe.

Probably a lot more places - it's just that the hormones haven't been suspected

or detected yet! I'm still checking on that.

 

 http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2003/jan/03013003.html

 

I'm hunting for the info re antibodies and will post it when I've found what I'm

looking for. Meantime, Sheri posted info recently on why having antibodies does

not confer immunity. Have a look through the recent posts, during the last month

I think.

Best wishes,

Maracuja

From: nirvana4freedom <nirvana4freedom@...>

Subject: New questions

Vaccinations

Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 3:38 AM

Hello again and thank you all for giving me so much mind fodder to

chew on! I am still struggling to understand how have diseases related

deaths declined in India...is it due to vaccines or not. I am not able

to word this better actually. I mean to go back to my previous

question which I had asked few weeks back regarding what is it about

under-developed nations that scares so many non-vaxers.

I have different question now. I know that vaccine-induced immunity

does not go from mother to child...or so I think. I hope I am right.

Then why is it that pregnant ladies receive three shots of tetanus?

Also I would like to know that since my DD has been unfortunately

vaxed with HiB, DPaT, Hep B...will she or won't she pass any

antibodies to her children in future. I know the Pertussis is useless

at transmission and she may or may not get it in future. So can she

pass antibodies to her kids? I am thinking the answer is a BIG FAT NO

but no harm in asking right? Also she has not received the MMR vax so

can I take solace in the fact that if at all she acquires these

diseases, she will be able to pass on some immunity to her offspring?

Thanks for keeping my little brain busy :)

Deepali

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Thank you very much Vida and for your replies. I am afraid Vida

but I don't think vaccinations are becoming less in India because I

notice this trend among most of the newbie parents to rush to the docs

for each and everything. Even in small villages, poor, innocent

parents take their kids for vaxing but I guess they don't stick with

the protocol the way the urban parents do. So I know that autism is

increasing in India but I also think that disease-related deaths are

coming down. I guess like Vida said it can be due to the fact that

people are getting richer and able to have access to better lifestyle.

Maracuja, thank you for those links. I had read about the 'tainted

tetanus jab' some months back but I had totally forgotten about it. I

am really scared now. I know I got three shots when I was pregnant

with DD. I am not sure why would they still allow these shots if they

know for a fact that it can cause abortions! I am not comfortable at

all now. I don't know who I can trust now. It's getting increasily

scary out there. Is this the new population control tactic??

Deepali

>

> Hello Deepali, 

> I am so sorry to say that this may provide an answer re 3

unnecessary tetanus jabs during pregnancy.

>  

>   http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5324512.html

>

> Title:

> [Gln']-luteinizing hormone releasing hormone conjugate of tetanus

vaccine and its uses

>

> Document Type and Number:

> United States Patent 5324512

>

>

> Abstract:

> The present prevention provides an effective, fast acting method of

vaccination useful in suppressing gonadotropic hormone release. The

vaccine utilizes LHRH conjugated at its amino terminus to a protein

carrier and can be mixed with either adjuvants or detergents in order

to provide an effect vaccine.

>

>

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You can't know for sure that the disease rate is going down. You can only know

what you're being told by the media.

Winnie

Re: New questions

Vaccinations

So I know that autism is

> increasing in India but I also think that disease-related deaths are

> coming down. I guess like Vida said it can be due to the fact that

> people are getting richer and able to have access to better lifestyle.

>

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My thinking about the baby and nursing was if the milk was going to inhibit any

progress. Sounds like he would be fine.

I was also wondering that if I don't feel anything from the 100mg of Niacin, if

i need to take more, or is this good. I could not find 50mg. And since it is

capsule, I have to take all 100 at once.

I woke up again today with that hypoglycemic like symptoms. I got all white,

and had the " walls closing in, " but weathered it out until I got some scrambled

eggs made. (One of my kids made them for me). Is this ketosis again? Is that

reoccuring? Did I not eat enough the day before? I did have diarreah.

I'll have you know...I have been tolerating the egg drink again. yeah!

Thanks, le

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> My thinking about the baby and nursing was if the milk was going to inhibit

any progress. Sounds like he would be fine.

+++Hi le. No, breastmilk won't inhibit progress.

>

> I was also wondering that if I don't feel anything from the 100mg of Niacin,

if i need to take more, or is this good. I could not find 50mg. And since it

is capsule, I have to take all 100 at once.

+++No, do not increase it. It takes some people a long time to get a niacin

flush, but eventually it does happen, so don't increase it.

>

> I woke up again today with that hypoglycemic like symptoms. I got all white,

and had the " walls closing in, " but weathered it out until I got some scrambled

eggs made. (One of my kids made them for me). Is this ketosis again? Is that

reoccuring? Did I not eat enough the day before? I did have diarreah.

+++It's all part of the healing processes your body needs to go through in order

to heal itself. Often people mistake their symptoms as being hypoglycemic but

detoxifying/die-off symptoms are similar. You couldn't be hypoglycemic on this

program anyway since you aren't having sugars/carbs that cause hypoglycemia.

Don't be concerned about whether your symptoms are caused by ketosis or die-off

or detoxifying, etc. since they are all part of the natural healing processes,

which is the opposite of the " dis-ease " process where your body is breaking

down.

+++If you think you didn't eat enough yesterday, eat more today. Diarrhea is a

way for the body to get rid of toxins, so it is also a die-off symptom.

>

> I'll have you know...I have been tolerating the egg drink again. yeah!

+++Good for you!

The best, Bee

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> I was also wondering that if I don't feel anything from the 100mg of Niacin,

if i need to take more, or is this good. I could not find 50mg. And since it

is capsule, I have to take all 100 at once.

> Thanks, le

>Hi, I got a 50 mg niacin from iherb carlson car-02763. I get a light flush

most times on it, but 1 out of 4 times, a heavier flush. i take twice a day,

with the b complex. You may require more than 50 mg. I wonder too if I should

increase.

C.

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>

> >

> > I was also wondering that if I don't feel anything from the 100mg of Niacin,

if i need to take more, or is this good. I could not find 50mg. And since it

is capsule, I have to take all 100 at once.

>

> > Thanks, le

> >Hi, I got a 50 mg niacin from iherb carlson car-02763. I get a light flush

most times on it, but 1 out of 4 times, a heavier flush. i take twice a day,

with the b complex. You may require more than 50 mg. I wonder too if I should

increase.

>

+++Hi C. Niacin flushes are mainly because of radiation coming out

through the skin, but it is also flushing out other toxins as well, even if you

don't get a flush, but it may not be as obvious as radiation.

+++You may increase your niacin very very slowly if you wish. If you don't get

a flush for 5 days in a row at a certain dose, increase it by 25 mg a day, and

so on.

Taking over 400 mg of niacin per day requires all other supplements be increased

too, so I don't recommend doing that. There is another program that gradually

increase niacin to high levels, but it also means sweating out in the sauna,

running, etc. - it's called the Hubbard Purification Program, which would be

wise to do after you are healthy.

Bee

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It's a relief to know about the hypoglycemic thing. I do think I just need to

eat more. I wake up STARVING. I have 5 kids, and in the afternoon I do alot of

running around and food gets put on the back burner. I usually bring a pepper

with me to snack on. I bought some of those veggies to try and make snack chips

out of.

Well...I got that Niacin flush yesterday. It was kind of weird. I looked

sunburned. = ) It was then that I figured I may have needed a few days for it

to happen.

I checked my blood pressure yesterday. I usually check it on the ones in the

store, and have been pretty accurate. When I checked it, it was 87/58. My

blood pressure when I was " normal " was usually 90's - 100's over 60's - 70's.

It was higher when my thyroid was messed up - 117/80s. So, I was wondering if

th ie 87/58 is a normal range when being on this diet, or was it because of the

Niacin flush?

As for the baby, do we take the same approach with the anti-fungals? I have

taken his refined sugars away, and started with the little bits of coconut oil,

and the cod liver oil, but do I wait to start the rubs on the feet until I get

the rest of the sugars and carbs out of his diet?

le

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Hi le,

I don't know if you saw that Bee is out of town and away from a computer until

Sunday so she won't be answering questions.

If you are starving, you should definitely eat more, just try to keep up your

fats as much as you can so you keep the proper ratios.

Niacin flushes are a little weird until you get used to them. You won't have

flushes every time you take it. Some days you'll get a major flush and other

days you may not notice anything at all. That's normal.

Remember that your body will be in a constant state of flux on this program as

it tries to correct yourself. If you are feeling okay, you probably don't need

to worry too much about your blood pressure.

Babies and children should follow Bee's program the same way adults do. That

means that you take out all of the sugars ( & no-no foods) as you gradually

increase their dose of coconut oil until you reach the maximum dosage for

children before adding a second antifungal (like rubbing the feet with oil of

oregano or garlic). Remember that babies can also have die-off and retracing,

so keep an eye out for that.

Have you read this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/baby.php

I hope that helps to clarify.

>

<snip>

>

> As for the baby, do we take the same approach with the anti-fungals? I have

taken his refined sugars away, and started with the little bits of coconut oil,

and the cod liver oil, but do I wait to start the rubs on the feet until I get

the rest of the sugars and carbs out of his diet?

>

> le

>

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> I checked my blood pressure yesterday. I usually check it on the ones in the

store, and have been pretty accurate. When I checked it, it was 87/58. My

blood pressure when I was " normal " was usually 90's - 100's over 60's - 70's.

It was higher when my thyroid was messed up - 117/80s. So, I was wondering if

th ie 87/58 is a normal range when being on this diet, or was it because of the

Niacin flush?

+++Hi le. No, that isn't a normal range for this program, and it wasn't

caused by niacin either.

You can't depend upon blood pressure unless you take it a few times a day and

over a period of time so you can get an average.

Ensure you are getting enough good ocean sea salt which helps low blood

pressure.

Bee

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> +++Hi le. No, that isn't a normal range for this program, and it wasn't

caused by niacin either.

>

> You can't depend upon blood pressure unless you take it a few times a day and

over a period of time so you can get an average.

>

> Ensure you are getting enough good ocean sea salt which helps low blood

pressure.

So what would be normal on this diet? I will try drinking more of the

Electolyte drink. I have not been doing a lot of this, but started a little

more this weekend because I was reading that you said it would help ward of some

cravings.

Since I have Carlson Cod Liver Oil, I should be taking a Vitamin A (Retinol)

Supplement? So how much of Carlson's should I be taking plus A? So, when I get

a new bottle (Garden of Life), I will not need an A supplement?

Thanks for your awesome help! Hope you had a great break!

le

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> > +++Hi le. No, that isn't a normal range for this program, and it wasn't

caused by niacin either.

> >

> > You can't depend upon blood pressure unless you take it a few times a day

and over a period of time so you can get an average.

> >

> > Ensure you are getting enough good ocean sea salt which helps low blood

pressure.

>

> So what would be normal on this diet? I will try drinking more of the

Electolyte drink. I have not been doing a lot of this, but started a little

more this weekend because I was reading that you said it would help ward of some

cravings.

+++Hi le. There is no normal blood pressure on this diet, since each

person's body needs to go through the healing process completely in order for

all functioning to normalize. Therefore, whatever your body needs to create

happens, including fluctuating blood pressure as required.

+++Remember " more is not better " so also don't do " lots " of the ocean sea salt

or anything else - just take doses recommended.

>

> Since I have Carlson Cod Liver Oil, I should be taking a Vitamin A (Retinol)

Supplement? So how much of Carlson's should I be taking plus A? So, when I get

a new bottle (Garden of Life), I will not need an A supplement?

+++Yes you need extra vitamin A per this article (scroll down for Carlson's

doses, etc.): http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cod2.php

Cheers, Bee

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the answer to first question is most probably anti hbc and second one is hbcag for sure

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end systolic pressure in left ventricle = 50

end diastlic pressure rt ventricle = 25

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