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In a message dated 11/13/00 8:05:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

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<< Used to have oatmeal every morning but was told oatmeal enhances the

ATDs! mona >>

Hi Mona,

That is interesting. Do you know the source for that information? I fell

into eating oatmeal every day during my recovery. I wonder if there is a

connection between eating oatmeal and lower thyroid hormones. By the way why

would you avoid oatmeal if it might enable you to take less ATDs?

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Dear Mona,

I think 's question was, if oatmeal enhances the effect of the ATDs, why

would you avoid it? If something helps the ATDs to work better, that should

be a reason to use it, not avoid it. Does this make sense?

AntJoan

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Mona, what's your source re: oatmeal? I love it and it's one of my favorite

comfort foods. I hope you're mistaken! Perhaps I'll start trying a toasted

English muffin with strawberry preserves or some Yoplait custard-style

yogurt. I can't stomach much before 10:00 A.M. and then it's too close to

noon. Maybe I'll take a blender to work and make " smoothies " for my fellow

co-workers in the legal department once in a while. I DO love them but

they're work!

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Bonner

breakfast

> I don't eat breakfast until I get to work.....around 0700 - 0730 then it's

> only toast and fruit. I have cranberry juice before I leave home. Don't

> have time for breakfast at home and started this routine when I was told

it

> was better to take PTU on an empty stomach. Used to have oatmeal every

> morning but was told oatmeal enhances the ATDs! mona

>

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The NGDF bulletin board was a great help to me at a time when I had many

questions...especially about TED. I also met a person locally at NGDF that

referred me to my current Endo! I don't remember who told me about the

oatmeal but it came from someone on that board. I didn't question it at the

time.....just wanted to get better. I'll do a search on their bulletin

board and see if I can find the source! Mona

Re: breakfast

Mona, what's your source re: oatmeal? I love it and it's one of my favorite

comfort foods. I hope you're mistaken! Perhaps I'll start trying a toasted

English muffin with strawberry preserves or some Yoplait custard-style

yogurt. I can't stomach much before 10:00 A.M. and then it's too close to

noon. Maybe I'll take a blender to work and make " smoothies " for my fellow

co-workers in the legal department once in a while. I DO love them but

they're work!

=====

Bonner

breakfast

> I don't eat breakfast until I get to work.....around 0700 - 0730 then it's

> only toast and fruit. I have cranberry juice before I leave home. Don't

> have time for breakfast at home and started this routine when I was told

it

> was better to take PTU on an empty stomach. Used to have oatmeal every

> morning but was told oatmeal enhances the ATDs! mona

>

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Yes it does. It was my mistake, I was backwards....sorry, Mona

Re: breakfast

Dear Mona,

I think 's question was, if oatmeal enhances the effect of the ATDs, why

would you avoid it? If something helps the ATDs to work better, that should

be a reason to use it, not avoid it. Does this make sense?

AntJoan

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I want to come and eat at your house !

Yum!

m.

--- Darius Partovi <rpartovi@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> Everyone has such lovely suggestions. I just

> thought I'd put in my 2¢.

>

> First thing in the morning, I make myself an organic

> fruit smoothie. I

> keep frozen organic blueberries, cherries, and

> strawberries on hand. I

> mix some of these with some organic pineapple,

> guava, cherry, and/or

> mango juice. If I have some fresh fruit, I'll put

> that in too. I add

> in a few tablespoons of honey (the joys of

> secreting!) and blend away.

> I like to think that the mixture reaches a constant

> pH during the

> blending, so acid/sweet combinations are not a major

> concern. This

> gives me a quick surge of energy—better than any

> caffeinated substance.

>

> Thirty minutes later (for proper food combining), I

> heat some ghee in a

> saucepan and fry up four extra-large, organic,

> free-range eggs—sunny

> side up, cooked white, almost raw yellow. On days

> when I have a bit

> more time, I will sauté and add some greens or other

> vegetable. I enjoy

> my eggs with a steaming cup of my favorite tea (one

> of almost twenty

> different flavors).

>

> For a mid-morning snack, I often have two pieces of

> Ezekiel Bread,

> spread with feta cheese and coated with walnuts.

>

> On days when I feel like I need some extra protein

> (a protein-poor day

> before or stressful things on the horizon), I add a

> few links of

> free-range turkey breakfast sausage to my sunny side

> up egg " omelette. "

>

> On the weekends, when energy isn't a concern, I may

> indulge myself with

> some homemade spelt blueberry muffins, sprinkled

> with a light dusting of

> turbinado, or some fluffy spelt pancakes with a pat

> of butter and 100%

> pure Grade A maple syrup. (I don't recommend this

> if weight loss is a

> primary concern.)

>

> I hope that this gives you some ideas. At least you

> know that eating

> like an O need not be painful.

>

> Happy eating!

>

>

>

>

>

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Wow, I'd like to be at your house for breakfast.

Yummmy,

Gaye

> At least you know that eating

> like an O need not be painful.

>

> Happy eating!

>

>

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In a message dated 9/12/2002 12:25:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

njr_rjn@... writes:

> i am having trouble figuring out just what to eat for breakfast

>

I used to have a slice of toast with jam and flax seeds on it. Since I

started the program at the beginning of this week, I have been having one

scrambled egg done in olive oil and 2 slices of turkey bacon. It is

satisfying and keeps me going untill lunch. I thought I would miss the

toast with an egg but I do the bacon really crisp on use it to put pieces of

egg on it and eat it like it was toast.

Sharon (Ontario) Canada

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<< i am having trouble figuring out just what to eat for breakfast >>

I used to be a non breakfast eater but this diet made me want more energy.

It turned me into an energy junky who wants fat and protein. I tried the

smoothies etc but it just didn't work for me. I usually eat eggs and left

over steak or meat. I do sometimes eat bacon or sausage (Oh my God!!) but I

burn it to a cinder. I need a lot of protein for breakfast. Some folks say

that they eat all of their carbs in the morning but munching on fruit or a

salad in the morning is a little much for me. I'd rather watch a cow munch

on salad and then shoot the cow and eat it for breakfast. I save my salad

for dinner and eat fruit sparingly.

Max

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----- Original Message -----

From: njr_rjn <njr_rjn@...>

i am having trouble figuring out just what to eat for breakfast

this morning it was eggs but i am not much of a breakfast eater at

the best of times

Is there a meal plan anywhere i can access

thanks

Ahhhh.... yes. Newbie need to know what to eat for breakfast!

Perfect.

If you pay me a dollar everyday I will personally instruct you what to eat

for breakfast. That way you won't have to waste your time thinking about it!

I figure, if people will pay " professionals " exhorbitant amounts of money

for nutrition " advice " that pales in comparison to the BTD, then my

breakfast suggestions will surely be worth a dollar per breakfast! Simply

tell me what is in your house, food-wise; that means dry pantry, fridge,

even herbs in your backyard (it would help immensely if you had some

marijuana, BTW, as I'm sure we could arrange an even less expensive

consultation fee, perhaps even a barter system of sorts...).

Or you could eat what you have eaten for breakfast BEFORE the diet, but

eliminate avoids and emphasize the HBs (even breakfast should adhere to the

BTD).

Or you could eat leftovers from last night's dinner. This concept helps

drive home what Os are REALLY about. We are NOT spelt-cake eating wussies or

spelt-cookie eating pussies or rice-pasta dining wimps or soy-milk

smoothie-making pimps!

WE ARE Os! We are primal! We are savage! We are strong!

If I eat something " fruity " , such as reconstituted (re-hydrated) figs or

prunes or apricots or a banana smoothie or something else high-carb and

easily digest for breakfast I will follow it up with a REAL meal of lots of

meat and plenty of calories from FAT! I don't go for a bernaise sauce or

anything frenchy-fancy like that!

I don't like to oxidize my valuable high-cholesterol yolks. If I'm eating

steak tartar (the best breakfast) I'm all set, if I'm not eating tartar I'll

break a yolk on my food if I feel like it. There's your " breakfast eggs "

folks!

Need morning exercise suggestions? Go out and kill something! Need breakfast

meal suggestions? Eat what you killed!

Axel O+ secretor, eating beef heart again. That's right. For late breakfast.

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As for soy or rice milk - go ahead and use it. For me, I don't do well with soy

- I also don't like the taste.

I use the organic milk because it is already in the house for my daughter who

refuses to even try this way of eating. She does eat what I cook and respects

my choices, but there are too many tempting avoid foods in the house now that

she has come back home.

Kate in sunny So. CA

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Meat and vegetables. I usually eat ground beef cooked with onion, garlic, red

peppers, salt, and salsa. I put it on top of heated frozen spinach or any

vegetable left over from the night before. I make a big pot of the meat, then

it's not hard to heat up enough for a meal. This morning I had a hamburger patty

with salsa and some cooked fresh summer squash.

Breakfast

Hello all,

New to the group, but I've been familiar with ER4YT for several

years. I haven't had a lot of experience in following it, however in

the short time that I did, I lost about 10 lbs in a month without

even thinking about it. (that is beyond impressive for me)

Now, I hate just jumping in with a question, but isn't that really

why we all join these groups?

My main weakness with this whole system, is Breakfast. I'm not a

morning person, so I tend to sleep till the last possible minute,

and now that I'm a single mother, I have even less time in the

morning. On top of it, I tend to avoid the kitchen just on general

principal. I actually tried to blow up the microwave a couple of

weeks ago. And to make matters even worse, I'm kinda on the broke

side of finances, so buying expensive breads etc is pretty much out

for the forseeable future.

Now, being that wheat, potatos, corn, and pork-products are out, I

can only tolerate small amounts of eggs, and cereals don't fulfill

me, what on earth am I supposed to eat for breakfast? I'm the type

of person who needs variety in my life, so even if I were to come up

with one or two things, I would only stick to it for a few weeks,

then I would be back to old habits.

So, any ideas? The more the merrier. I will be forever grateful for

any thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

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Welcome ,

We all have had great results, and keep learning from each other. I think

question from new people have resulted in more new information than anything

else.

Come on, Give Us Something to Research...

I have been on the road you are for some time. You have probably already

noticed how much you are not spending on all that garbage that is avoid. Ground

beef is your best bet. It's going to stick with you for a good part of the day,

keep you running with ALL your senses active, and you can buy very good quality

that is still cheap. Better quality meat reheats better, and tastier than the

cheaper stuff though. Grass Fed poor cuts are better than grain fed high

quality cuts.

While meat has been the root of some very hot debate in this group, most of

us know it's what satisfies us best. I keep containers of meat in marinade

running non stop in the fridge, and some kind of Chili/pasta sauce/taco meat

type of dish cooked in bulk. Most will agree that some kind of leftovers are

best, so cook dinner with breakfast in mind. Kale, or spinach make good

wrappers for a very satisfying rolled breakfast.

A few weeks like this and you will wonder how anyone could live on cereal

for breakfast...

I would recommend to purge your house of all avoids.

When folks tell you think of them as poison, they are not kidding.

Sorry to all the regular speakers.

I have been preaching the power of BTD at work and family.

Live well, and enjoy every moment,.

Breakfast

Hello all,

New to the group, but I've been familiar with ER4YT for several

years. I haven't had a lot of experience in following it, however in

the short time that I did, I lost about 10 lbs in a month without

even thinking about it. (that is beyond impressive for me)

Now, I hate just jumping in with a question, but isn't that really

why we all join these groups?

My main weakness with this whole system, is Breakfast. I'm not a

morning person, so I tend to sleep till the last possible minute,

and now that I'm a single mother, I have even less time in the

morning. On top of it, I tend to avoid the kitchen just on general

principal. I actually tried to blow up the microwave a couple of

weeks ago. And to make matters even worse, I'm kinda on the broke

side of finances, so buying expensive breads etc is pretty much out

for the forseeable future.

Now, being that wheat, potatos, corn, and pork-products are out, I

can only tolerate small amounts of eggs, and cereals don't fulfill

me, what on earth am I supposed to eat for breakfast? I'm the type

of person who needs variety in my life, so even if I were to come up

with one or two things, I would only stick to it for a few weeks,

then I would be back to old habits.

So, any ideas? The more the merrier. I will be forever grateful for

any thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

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Same question here. Are we supposed to eat something every few hours? Can

someone give us some schedule ideas with some suggestions on what to eat when?

I read yesterday that grape and cranberry juices were better than OJ or

grapefruit juices.

Jennz21@... wrote: Ok I don't have my manual with me right now and

am wondering what are

acceptable choices for breakfast during stage 1 and stage 2....I THINK I

remember

stage 1 is strictly liquids and crackers? and yogurt....so I am thinking

yogurt would be a good breakfast item and OJ or some other type of juice.....I

also think during stage 2 runny oatmeail and grits are good....is this true?

can everyone give me some ideas of what you did for breakfast during stage 1 &

2? thanks!!!!

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Jenn,

Breakfast is what floats your boat the moment you decide to eat it at stage 1.

Your need at that time is hydration, potassium, salt and the lactbacilli and

protein in the yogurt. You are pulling out all the excess fluid from your

joints and extremities and eating from your stored fat. You hear us talk about

how our arthritis pain goes away during stage one, that is because all the fluid

pressure in our joints has lessened.

Stage 2 is the same except you are adding some bulk in the form of a soft

boiled egg, or egg salad, mashed potato and most of all, you are still healing.

During stage 2, you eat " A B C " food --- already been chewed food. What you eat

doesn't matter as long as you follow the list of choices. Breaking it up into

what to eat and at what time is what your newly strange scrambled brain wants at

that moment. Stage one, I liked hot V 8 with beef broth mixed in it. Stage 2,

I liked simply mashed potatoes for 2 meals of my 3 with salty fluids in between.

Key words.... what floats your boat at that moment. Oatmeal didn't sit right

with me ever during stage 1 and 2.

Drink drink drink.......

Barbara

Jennz21@... wrote:

Ok I don't have my manual with me right now and am wondering what are

acceptable choices for breakfast during stage 1 and stage 2....I THINK I

remember

stage 1 is strictly liquids and crackers? and yogurt....so I am thinking

yogurt would be a good breakfast item and OJ or some other type of juice.....I

also think during stage 2 runny oatmeail and grits are good....is this true?

can everyone give me some ideas of what you did for breakfast during stage 1 &

2? thanks!!!!

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Yes, stage 2 oatmeal, cream of wheat (has tons of iron), runny eggs,

applesauce, cottage cheese and anything soft that you may desire. Enjoy!!!

hugs,

Elissa

Dr. R 4/19/06

286/281/147 not 142 my scale was wrong compared to the docs

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1st - don't think in terms of breakfast, lunch & dinner. I remember Dr. D.

telling me before my surgery to only eat when you feel hungry, not just because

the clock said it was time to eat! So, if you feel like eating, then eat, if

you don't, then don't.

Also - don't get stuck on breakfast foods, lunch foods, dinner foods. You can

eat any type of food at anytime (on correct stages).

Stage 1: yogurt, crackers, soup broth, gatorade

Stage 2: yogurt, crackers, soup broth, gatorade, soft cooked eggs (if they set

well w/ you), runny mashed potatoes, grits, oatmeal (if they set well w/ you)

mushed up - overcooked veggies, a little peanut butter on your crackers for

protein.

Good luck!

Jeannie

Breakfast

Ok I don't have my manual with me right now and am wondering what

are

acceptable choices for breakfast during stage 1 and stage 2....I THINK I

remember

stage 1 is strictly liquids and crackers? and yogurt....so I am thinking

yogurt would be a good breakfast item and OJ or some other type of juice.....I

also think during stage 2 runny oatmeail and grits are good....is this true?

can everyone give me some ideas of what you did for breakfast during stage 1 &

2? thanks!!!!

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I liked (and still like) the cottage cheese doubles from

Breakstone. They come with pineapple, strawberry, peach or

blueberry. They have a pretty low sugar content and have a good

amount of protein. They make a good breakfast when you're on the

go, too.

>

> 1st - don't think in terms of breakfast, lunch & dinner. I

remember Dr. D. telling me before my surgery to only eat when you

feel hungry, not just because the clock said it was time to eat!

So, if you feel like eating, then eat, if you don't, then don't.

>

> Also - don't get stuck on breakfast foods, lunch foods, dinner

foods. You can eat any type of food at anytime (on correct stages).

>

> Stage 1: yogurt, crackers, soup broth, gatorade

> Stage 2: yogurt, crackers, soup broth, gatorade, soft cooked eggs

(if they set well w/ you), runny mashed potatoes, grits, oatmeal (if

they set well w/ you) mushed up - overcooked veggies, a little

peanut butter on your crackers for protein.

>

> Good luck!

> Jeannie

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> Ok I don't have my manual with me right now and am

wondering what are

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> acceptable choices for breakfast during stage 1 and stage 2....I

THINK I remember

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> stage 1 is strictly liquids and crackers? and yogurt....so I am

thinking

>

> yogurt would be a good breakfast item and OJ or some other type

of juice.....I

>

> also think during stage 2 runny oatmeail and grits are good....is

this true?

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> can everyone give me some ideas of what you did for breakfast

during stage 1 &

>

> 2? thanks!!!!

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stage 1 yogurt, broth, gold fish, saltines, nothing with a hard edge, same thing

for lunch and supper and snack time...stage 2 soft scrambled egg, boiled egg. (

some have trouble with the yolk as it tends to gum up in the tummy, if that is

the case, try just the white. I has all the protein in it anyway. protein drinks

made like a smoothie, add just a bit of fruit and blend the tar out of it, go

easy, cheese if memory serves me is o.k. anything that actually has to be

chewed well. no bacon, sausage, pancakes, but oatmeal, grits, cream of wheat,

etc is great add a bit of protein powder to it if you want and it becomes a

source of extra protein for you...

take care in Mo,

Breakfast

Ok I don't have my manual with me right now and am wondering what are

acceptable choices for breakfast during stage 1 and stage 2....I THINK I

remember

stage 1 is strictly liquids and crackers? and yogurt....so I am thinking

yogurt would be a good breakfast item and OJ or some other type of juice.....I

also think during stage 2 runny oatmeail and grits are good....is this true?

can everyone give me some ideas of what you did for breakfast during stage 1 &

2? thanks!!!!

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> I have multiple food allergies and am on a rotating diet.  I eat

eggs every five days.  I eat either fruit or grains such as teff,

gluten free oats, and quinoa the other mornings.  I am having trouble

trying to figure out what to do about breatkfast.  I can't eat eggs

every day because I will have an allergic reaction.  I have found a

recipe for beef breakfast sausage I can use, but does anyone have any

other suggestions or should I just eat what I would normally eat at

lunch or dinner for breakfast? I am new to this so any ideas would be

appreciated.

+++Hi. Is your name ? It is not necessary to rotate any of

the foods recommended on this program, since you couldn't possibly be

allergic to God-given natural foods. Human bodies are all designed

to consume good unadulterated foods in order to be healthy.

Many foods are also antifungal, including eggs which contain

sulphur. But again healing reactions doesn't mean you are " actually "

allergic to them. Your body is only allergic to toxins and poisons.

Food allergies is big business however, and it is very misunderstood

by doctors, natural practitioners, etc. They attribute reactions as

allergic, however they are exactly the same set of symptoms as

healing reactions the body itself creates in order to heal itself,

detoxify, etc.

Because good unadulteratered foods cause healing reactions you start

with small amount and only gradually increase them so your healing

reactions are tolerable, i.e. start with 1 tsp. of egg yolk and

increase the amount very slowly.

To understand allergies versus healing reactions see these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal14.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal11.php

Bee

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Hi Bee,

 

My name is .  Sorry I should put my name at the end of my e-mail. 

Thank you for your reply.

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Breakfast

Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:51 AM

>

> I have multiple food allergies and am on a rotating diet.  I eat

eggs every five days.  I eat either fruit or grains such as teff,

gluten free oats, and quinoa the other mornings.  I am having trouble

trying to figure out what to do about breatkfast.  I can't eat eggs

every day because I will have an allergic reaction.  I have found a

recipe for beef breakfast sausage I can use, but does anyone have any

other suggestions or should I just eat what I would normally eat at

lunch or dinner for breakfast? I am new to this so any ideas would be

appreciated.

+++Hi. Is your name ? It is not necessary to rotate any of

the foods recommended on this program, since you couldn't possibly be

allergic to God-given natural foods. Human bodies are all designed

to consume good unadulterated foods in order to be healthy.

Many foods are also antifungal, including eggs which contain

sulphur. But again healing reactions doesn't mean you are " actually "

allergic to them. Your body is only allergic to toxins and poisons.

Food allergies is big business however, and it is very misunderstood

by doctors, natural practitioners, etc. They attribute reactions as

allergic, however they are exactly the same set of symptoms as

healing reactions the body itself creates in order to heal itself,

detoxify, etc.

Because good unadulteratered foods cause healing reactions you start

with small amount and only gradually increase them so your healing

reactions are tolerable, i.e. start with 1 tsp. of egg yolk and

increase the amount very slowly.

To understand allergies versus healing reactions see these articles:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ heal14.php

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ heal11.php

Bee

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Hi !

Welcome to our group! As you read more on Bee's website, you will

find that it's best to transition away from the fruits and grains and

try eating closer to Bee's recommended diet, including eggs.

In the meantime, it's perfectly fine to eat traditional 'lunch' or

'dinner' foods at breakfast time.

The best of luck to you as you embark on this new journey towards health!

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> > I have multiple food allergies and am on a rotating diet.  I eat

> eggs every five days.  I eat either fruit or grains such as teff,

> gluten free oats, and quinoa the other mornings.  I am having

trouble trying to figure out what to do about breatkfast. 

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