Re: kefir and yogurt

[Guest guest]

Carol,

I think that kefir and yogurt are two completely different animals

(someone please correct me in I am in error). The bacteria listed in

my Yo'Gourmet yogurt starter are L. Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus, and L.

Acidophilus. I am newish to making kefir with kefir grains but you can

read more about kefir bacteria at Dom's sites:

http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

http://users.chariot.net.au/%7Edna/Makekefir.html

It is my understanding that kefir is superior to yogurt in that the

bacteria in yogurt need to be replenished daily to keep sufficient

quantities in the gut...those in kefir will eventually recolonize the

gut...better staying power.

This is a gem of a site for other yogurt cultures (sourdough,

etc.)...Viili, Fil Mjolk, Matsoni, Piima:

http://www.fermentedtreasures.com/

I haven't yet tried any of these yet but intend to. I can't seem to

find the magic formula for getting kefir into my kids (but I'm not

giving up!). I have been making yogurt for years (with pasteurized

milk) but having recently found a source of raw milk which I cherish, I

am hoping to retain more of the unheated enzymes in the finished

product. The problem I've encountered making yogurt without heat is

that just incubating at 110 degrees produces a thin yogurt...apparently

this is due to the natural enzymes in the raw milk " fighting " the

yogurt culture.

I understand that some people experience constipation with

kefir...apparently a shorter (12 hours) fermentation is the solution.

As of the moment, I haven't given any probiotics to myself or the kids

but ordered some children's DDS on Will's recommendation simply because

I can't get the kefir into them (yet).

Hope this helps...I'll keep you posted on the other yogurt cultures

when I get around to trying them...they look quite easy to make with

the raw milk. One thing at a time in our journey with better foods.

Randi

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> Does anyone know if kefir contains the same bacteria that is found in

yogurt? I know kefir has more bugs in it, but does it contain all that

are in yogurt?

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> Also, for those of you who take probiotics, do you also drink kefir?

Is there any reason not to do both?

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> Carol

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[Guest guest]

How to get kefir into your kids??? I would start with fruit smoothies!

Strawberry seems to be the best for kids to start with.

I take a bunch of frozen strawberries and put them into the blender, then add

kefir to cover. Blend well, then add honey to taste. Kids seem to like it

sweeter at first. You can use stevia too for sweating. It will taste like a

strawberry shake.

Once they get use to the taste, try adding some coconut oil, and slowly add in

anything else you want them to have with their smoothies. For my picky dh, LOL,

I just do the coconut oil, fruit, honey and kefir.

Kimi

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Keep in mind that Bee's website isn't just for candida sufferers, so

sometimes there's information that is geared towards those without

candida.

Just to be clear, there is no dairy allowed (except butter) on the

candida diet, but after the candida is completely healed small amounts

of dairy is fine.

Hope that helps!

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> HI,

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> In reading Bee's Foods that Damage and Foods that Heal, I see that

> kefir and lacto-fermented dairy is very healthy. Yet, on the candida

> diet I was under the impression that dairy is out. Is dairy to be had

> after the candida diet is over? Please advise.

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> Kathy

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