Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 In a message dated 6/11/2004 11:00:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, jag14@... writes: Kiki, expeller-pressed oil is not the same as virgin coconut oil. It uses a different extraction process and has been steam-deodorized (which is why is doesn't have the same coconut taste). There is also the question of whether it is produced from fresh coconut or copra (dried coconut). However, it is a step up from the regular refined oil, which uses a chemical/solvent extraction process. As there are currently no standards for virgin coconut oil, even these oils are not all the same. The centrifuge process uses no heat, while the fermentation process (eg. Tropical Traditions) uses some heating to remove moisture. (Excess moisture causes the oil to go rancid). That said, the studies that have been done on coconut oil were using refined oil. ~~ Jocelyne Hi Jocelyne, You are exactly correct in what you wrote. The product I have isn't 'expeller pressed,' but at the same time, on all the sites I've been to, they use the term 'cold pressed' to make the milk, then the milk is left to ferment 24-36 to seperate the oil. Which is the way they have done it in the Philippines for thousands of years. So, what I have isn't a step up or down, it's made the same way, using fresh coconuts, {not copra}, as the TT, for example. As for taste and smell, I have to admit, until now I've only had the experience of shredded coconut bought at the store or in the 'snoballs'. So, when I say it doesn't have the taste and smell, that's all I have to compare it to. Not being refined, bleached, hydrogenated, or deodorized, I guess the scent isn't what I expected, which as I said, is GOOD for me. This is my first experience with it in oil form, so another example of not knowing what to expect. I stand by my statement that I have the 'recommended' VCO, and not one of the 'processed' types. Thanks for taking the time to reply, I'm sure it will be of help to others. This is all new to me, and I'd guess others. Any input is welcome as far as I'm concerned. If I'm not getting it right, I want to know and make the proper changes. In reading all the different sites, etc., it can get a bit confusing, trying to learn all the terminology and getting it straight... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 In a message dated 6/11/2004 12:13:31 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bmathis@... writes: only problem I have with fresh coconut, though, is that I tend to eat the entire thing -- in a short time frame! LOL...you're welcome to my share girlfreind!! {Other than what I need for the benefits, of course...} Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 I am so confused, what oil is best/ The one on Tropical Traditions? Types of Coconut Oil Kiki wrote: > >I did SOOOOOOOO muchresearch, before I bought. >My little jar form the HF store, I believe is exactly what >it says. Also talked to the guy there, and he was very >knowledgable. He said this is the right stuff, processed >the right way...cold pressed. It also, doesn't have a strong >CN odor or tast. Good thing, I HATE coconut! I don't think >it's sposed to really be that strong, processed correctly. >Am I wrong there? You can get the heat pressed in the food >isles for SOOOO much less.... Kiki, expeller-pressed oil is not the same as virgin coconut oil. It uses a different extraction process and has been steam-deodorized (which is why is doesn't have the same coconut taste). There is also the question of whether it is produced from fresh coconut or copra (dried coconut). However, it is a step up from the regular refined oil, which uses a chemical/solvent extraction process. As there are currently no standards for virgin coconut oil, even these oils are not all the same. The centrifuge process uses no heat, while the fermentation process (eg. Tropical Traditions) uses some heating to remove moisture. (Excess moisture causes the oil to go rancid). That said, the studies that have been done on coconut oil were using refined oil. ~~ Jocelyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 The book by Bruce Fife describes which oils are best to use -- durned if I have it figured out yet -- but I believe he recommends both places that I earlier sent out links to -- at this point, though, I'm not sure and definitely need to check the book again when I get home! He also said (I think) that coconut in all its forms (other than sweetened, I'm sure) are good for you -- only problem I have with fresh coconut, though, is that I tend to eat the entire thing -- in a short time frame! I haven't read anything by another author about coconut oil, assume he's the " expert " in this.... Bonnie Types of Coconut Oil Kiki wrote: > >I did SOOOOOOOO muchresearch, before I bought. >My little jar form the HF store, I believe is exactly what >it says. Also talked to the guy there, and he was very >knowledgable. He said this is the right stuff, processed >the right way...cold pressed. It also, doesn't have a strong >CN odor or tast. Good thing, I HATE coconut! I don't think >it's sposed to really be that strong, processed correctly. >Am I wrong there? You can get the heat pressed in the food >isles for SOOOO much less.... Kiki, expeller-pressed oil is not the same as virgin coconut oil. It uses a different extraction process and has been steam-deodorized (which is why is doesn't have the same coconut taste). There is also the question of whether it is produced from fresh coconut or copra (dried coconut). However, it is a step up from the regular refined oil, which uses a chemical/solvent extraction process. As there are currently no standards for virgin coconut oil, even these oils are not all the same. The centrifuge process uses no heat, while the fermentation process (eg. Tropical Traditions) uses some heating to remove moisture. (Excess moisture causes the oil to go rancid). That said, the studies that have been done on coconut oil were using refined oil. ~~ Jocelyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Kiki wrote: >You are exactly correct in what you wrote. The product >I have isn't 'expeller pressed,' but at the same time, >on all the sites I've been to, they use the term 'cold >pressed' to make the milk, then the milk is left to >ferment 24-36 to seperate the oil. Which is the way >they have done it in the Philippines for thousands of >years. So, what I have isn't a step up or down, it's >made the same way, using fresh coconuts, {not copra}, >as the TT, for example. As for taste and smell, I have >to admit, until now I've only had the experience of >shredded coconut bought at the store or in the 'snoballs'. >So, when I say it doesn't have the taste and smell, >that's all I have to compare it to. Not being refined, >bleached, hydrogenated, or deodorized, I guess the scent >isn't what I expected, which as I said, is GOOD for me. Hi Kiki, What confused me was when you said it didn't smell or taste like coconut. From my experience with the virgin oils, they do have a mild coconut odor and taste. The ones that have no coconut taste are usually the more processed ones. From you description - you're right - the brand you are using is one of the virgin oils. I think they're in the process now of creating some kind of labeling standards for virgin coconut oils, so that the consumer is sure of what they are getting. ~~ Jocelyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 In a message dated 6/12/2004 5:48:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, jag14@... writes: I think they're in the process now of creating some kind of labeling standards for virgin coconut oils, so that the consumer is sure of what they are getting. Joyclyne, Wouldn't that be great if they did!!! I went to another HF store today, that I hadn't checked before. I was looking for the NOW brand VCO. It comes only in 12 oz jars, but it's only 6.99 (I think) on the web page. {That's probably still a little more than the gallon deal on TT, but it's very convenient and at the moment easier to come up with that. Altho I did only pay 5.75} I knew my store carried that brand so I checked it out. They have it, both the unrefined and refined. Lucky for me, I know the difference...LOL They had a couple other brands there and both were not the VCO at all. One label said the brown flecks were going to help {insert the stupidest reason you can come up with here, cuz I forget}. Thank goodness I had researched it as well as I've been able to. I'm glad you tried to warn me that I may have had the wrong stuff. Like I said, if I'm messing up, I wanna know!! Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 > > I was on the wilderness family naturals sight and looking at coconut oil. > They have cold pressed and centrifuged which is more expensive. Centrifuged is supposed to > be higher in lauric acid and better able to handle heat. > The cold pressed is supposed to be a more coconut flavor. > Anybody have an opinion on this. Coconut oil is so expensive and my family of 6 goes > through it very fast. +++Hi Doris. I believe you will do just as well on the cheaper CO. Also check out Mountain Rose Herbs - they have 1 gallon of unrefined virgin CO for $41.00 and 5 gallons for $171.00 US; they are located in Eugene, Oregon: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/mrh1.php It's an excellent CO; I used to buy it when I lived out West. Be careful, since they also carry a refined virgin CO. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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