Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 HI, I noticed Bee has a tooth care page with tooth soap and a few more natural treatments. Is the tooth soap worth the investment? It's not cheap and each container lasts a short while. I have a house of 4 people to buy for. Are Bee's other natural treatments just as good? Which one is best? Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks! Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 > > HI, > > I noticed Bee has a tooth care page with tooth soap and a few more > natural treatments. Is the tooth soap worth the investment? It's not > cheap and each container lasts a short while. I have a house of 4 > people to buy for. Are Bee's other natural treatments just as good? > Which one is best? Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks! +++Hi Kathy. Natural treatments are just as good - see How To Care for Your Teeth: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/teeth1.php Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I've tried a couple of the other suggestions, i.e. baking soda & sea salt, baking soda/cinnamon, and coconut oil/baking soda. I like that last one the best (the cinnamon has the downside of potentially leaving you with some brownish residue ). Someone else here sent a link; I followed the instructions to combine 3 T baking soda with 2 T VCO, and it works like a charm. My teeth definitely look whiter! The recipe also said you could add a pinch of stevia or peppermint essential oil, but the baking soda " flavor " doesn't bother me at all. I don't use stevia anymore, and I don't feel like shopping for essential oils if I don't need to This also has the upside that you never have to shop for toothpaste. And considering the giant tub of VCO I keep on hand at all times, it's pretty cost effective! Hope that helps, andra > > HI, > > I noticed Bee has a tooth care page with tooth soap and a few more > natural treatments. Is the tooth soap worth the investment? It's not > cheap and each container lasts a short while. I have a house of 4 > people to buy for. Are Bee's other natural treatments just as good? > Which one is best? Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks! > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 this may sound wimpy but how do you combine the baking soda and co? in the blender? and for esthetic purposes what do you store it in? did you intend to include the link? that would be helpful. thanks, susan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi Kathy, Like andra, I just use a combination of baking soda and coconut oil. After a while on this diet, I found that my mouth felt a lot cleaner and fresher on it own without the need for regular minty toothpastes (which just mask the problem anyway). For our son, we just use water on his toothbrush since he doesn't like the saltiness of the baking soda. I think it's the brushing that is more important just to get off any plaque, more so than the paste you use to brush with. > > HI, > > I noticed Bee has a tooth care page with tooth soap and a few more > natural treatments. Is the tooth soap worth the investment? It's not > cheap and each container lasts a short while. I have a house of 4 > people to buy for. Are Bee's other natural treatments just as good? > Which one is best? Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks! > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi , I just put the baking soda in a small bowl, add a little coconut oil and mix with a spoon. Only add a little coconut oil at a time. A little goes a long way! You can store it in a glass jar. Hope that helps! Heaher > > this may sound wimpy but how do you combine the baking soda and co? > in the blender? and for esthetic purposes what do you store it in? > > did you intend to include the link? that would be helpful. > thanks, > susan > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 How long did it take before you noticed the whitening of your teeth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Like , I just mix them up with a spoon in a small bowl.. I mix 3T baking soda/ 2T coconut oil at one time, it usually lasts me for just over a week, brushing twice a day. I have wee bowls with fitting lids that I keep it in. As for when I noticed my teeth getting whiter... can't say exactly, I wasn't looking out for it. But I haven't been using it that long, maybe around a month - so 2 weeks in? Not shabby if you think about it! And so much better for your teeth than any whitening products. Honestly my mouth feels great like it did after doing oil pulling, which makes sense, since I am using another kind of oil regularly andra > this may sound wimpy but how do you combine the baking soda and co? > in the blender? and for esthetic purposes what do you store it in? > > did you intend to include the link? that would be helpful. > thanks, > susan > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 > > How long did it take before you noticed the whitening of your teeth? > +++Dear . You are trimming your messages too much, since we cannot tell who or what you are replying to. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 thank you for posting the toothpaste recipe- my teeth feel so clean! I never like the natural toothpastes in the stores, I feel like they do nothing. I used the 3 T baking soda, 2 T coconut oil and a few drops of peppermint and stevia: my teeth feel like I just got back from the dentist- I can't stop feeling them! Even my children like it! thanks! -Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I know, it feels great, doesn't it?! I love it. And after I started using it, I remembered that the dentist cleans our teeth with baking soda anyway... so why wouldn't we be able to do the same thing at home regularly, without shelling out several hundred bucks each time?? Things to make you go Hmmm... andra > thank you for posting the toothpaste recipe- my teeth feel so clean! I never like the natural toothpastes in the stores, I feel like they do nothing. I used the 3 T baking soda, 2 T coconut oil and a few drops of peppermint and stevia: my teeth feel like I just got back from the dentist- I can't stop feeling them! Even my children like it! > thanks! > -Sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I also have a neat tooth/gum care solution:  from GARDEN OF LIFE, Clenzology Hygene System (you can buy this as a package or separately), called TOOTH AND GUM SOLUTION.  ..5 fl oz (which will last a really long time!) coconut oil, peppermint oil, spearmint oil, thyme oil, sweet marjoram oil, myrrh oil, and clove oil. I really like it--tastes great.  You just use 1-2 drops on a wet toothbrush. I think it costs about $9-10. Comes in a brown glass bottle.  I just returned from the dentist a few weeks ago and the hygenist said my gums have never looked better. There was hardly any tartar.  Kirsten  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I am no expert by any means, but when I first heard of oil pulling the 2 oils given in the literature were sesame oil and olive oil. I have never used olive, but have the sesame and I rather like the taste of that so early in the day. Thanks, carol wilson ________________________________ From: Lyn K <godisbest4me@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 8:13:50 AM Subject: Tooth care  I have reached a milestone. I have been oil-pulling daily since the talks about it that went on here. I am now completely able to keep oil in my mouth. I don't like how time-consuming it is and one day it will not fit so easily into my schedule, but for now I am glad I am over the hump. I also have salt water mixed up and swish with salt water after the oil to continue the detox going on in my mouth. I am wondering what kinds of oil are best to oil-pull with. I was using CO, but I wonder what the science is behind the actual oil and which kind is most notably used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Lyn, you may find colloidal silver pulling to be a better fit. CS kills entire germ and virus classes that are untouched by oil, clearing about the other 3/4 of the field. Adding a few drops of peroxide increases the kill rate by 1000 times, and peroxide kills a few things, tiny parasites for example, that are untouched by either oil or CS swishing. all good, Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 On 2011-03-10 5:24 PM, Duncan Crow wrote: > Lyn, you may find colloidal silver pulling to be a better fit. > > CS kills entire germ and virus classes that are untouched by oil, > clearing about the other 3/4 of the field. Adding a few drops of > peroxide increases the kill rate by 1000 times, and peroxide kills a few > things, tiny parasites for example, that are untouched by either oil or > CS swishing. So... why not do both? Oil pull first, then 'rinse' by pulling with the CS+H2O combo... The only downside is the time/effort - but hey, it would be better than losing your teeth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I never much entered the world of colloidal silver.So you know where to get the best quality at the best price? I'm a peroxide person. But you cannot swish with peroxide or it foams up right away and has to be spit out then. On 2011-03-10 5:24 PM, Duncan Crow wrote: > Lyn, you may find colloidal silver pulling to be a better fit. > > CS kills entire germ and virus classes that are untouched by oil, > clearing about the other 3/4 of the field. Adding a few drops of > peroxide increases the kill rate by 1000 times, and peroxide kills a few > things, tiny parasites for example, that are untouched by either oil or > CS swishing. So... why not do both? Oil pull first, then 'rinse' by pulling with the CS+H2O combo... The only downside is the time/effort - but hey, it would be better than losing your teeth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 On 2011-03-11 8:36 AM, Lyn K wrote: > I never much entered the world of colloidal silver.So you know where to > get the best quality at the best price? Homemade... > I'm a peroxide person. But you cannot swish with peroxide or it foams > up right away and has to be spit out then. He said add only a few drops... this shouldn't be a problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Lyn, While colloidal silver kills pathogens there is little to no indication that swishing it in the mouth has the same systemic effects on the body that oil pulling does. You would have to take it internally for that and then you would have to go to the trouble of making your own, as the amount you would need to take would be quite expensive if purchased. Best, Dee > > On 2011-03-11 8:36 AM, Lyn K wrote: > > I never much entered the world of colloidal silver.So you know where to > > get the best quality at the best price? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hi I am not too sure about the " systemic effects " of oil pulling the science seems to be against much of it aside from cleaning the mouth better which in itself brings some health benefits .. Making colloidal silver is very, very simple. Total price including enough silver to last 100 years of making vast amount of CS is less than 100 dollars .... if you don't count the distilled water which last time I checked was at less than $1 at Walmart ... This site will tell you how, step by step ....http://www.quantumbalancing.com/makeyourowncs.htm I got a pure Silver (.9999) Canadian Silver Maple at a coin dealer for about $40.. Salvage an AC to DC adapter from an old laptop and simply cut the silver coin in half (you need two electrodes) ... Close to foolproof. Follow the instructions and you'll have CS ..for life .. CS works and evidence of its efficacy is supported by science and history Frantz > > I never much entered the world of colloidal silver.So you know where to > > get the best quality at the best price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Franz, I'm pretty sure colloidial silver has it's benefits but where is the science that " seems to be against " the systemic effects of oil pulling? Just because it doesn't directly pull toxins from the blood (as Bruce Fife admits yet is a strong proponent of oil pulling) does not mean that it does not affect the body in other ways - through the lymph system, for example, as posited by Dr. Lew: " Mechanical Waves are waves which propagate through a material medium (solid, liquid, or gas) at a wave speed which depends on the elastic and inertial properties of that medium and are readily observable and demonstrated in nature: the oral dynamics of churning sloshing and swirling of Oil Pulling in the cellular universe. based on its rationale in Biochemistry , Physics and Applied Anatomy : oro-nasal lymphatic drainage ) http://forums.hpathy.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12394 & title=olfaction-in-mainstream\ \ -practice " Best, Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Lyn, The best-priced colloidal silver would be home-made, which costs about 5 cents a gallon. A store might charge as much as $40 for a 2 oz container for some brands, and $30 a quart for others. The jury's out on best quality; I think it's all marketing malarkey because all of it works and you can vary the dose and concentration to make sure of that. Roman soldiers swallowed silver chunks or coins for the medicinal effect of stopping dysentery when on the march, while we see life-saving results with electrocolloidal ionic silver and nanosilver particles as well. There is a silver community, and several of the contributors make machines and/or colloidal silver to sell: http://silverlist.org The host has the wrong page up; here are the details of joining: http://www.silvergen.com/colloida1.htm The short side of it is you should probably build a machine and use that; the rewired microwave oven power supply for example is capable of continuous operation and can produce more than 900 quarts in an 8 hour shift, for an outlay of about $30 plus labour in making the unit, which takes about 40 minutes. all good, Duncan > > Lyn, you may find colloidal silver pulling to be a better fit. > > > > CS kills entire germ and virus classes that are untouched by oil, > > clearing about the other 3/4 of the field. Adding a few drops of > > peroxide increases the kill rate by 1000 times, and peroxide kills a few > > things, tiny parasites for example, that are untouched by either oil or > > CS swishing. > > So... why not do both? Oil pull first, then 'rinse' by pulling with the > CS+H2O combo... > > The only downside is the time/effort - but hey, it would be better than > losing your teeth... > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hello Dee, Thanks for all the information you are giving re the oil pulling. I tried oil pulling as I have 3 shoogly teeth, but of course when looking for miracles and overnight cures I gave up after 3 weeks. However, having read the emails you've been sending in to the group it's really motivated me to giving the oil pulling another go without the expectations I had before. Patience never was one of my virtues lol. Thanks again, Dee. susan Re: Tooth care Lyn, While colloidal silver kills pathogens there is little to no indication that swishing it in the mouth has the same systemic effects on the body that oil pulling does. You would have to take it internally for that and then you would have to go to the trouble of making your own, as the amount you would need to take would be quite expensive if purchased. Best, Dee > > On 2011-03-11 8:36 AM, Lyn K wrote: > > I never much entered the world of colloidal silver.So you know where to > > get the best quality at the best price? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hi , I wish I could remember how long it took for my shoogly (good description:-) teeth to firm up but they are now tight as a drum, so do keep at it! I've also been reading lately about the application of CoQ10 to the gums so you might want to try that before bed to help speed things up. All the Best, Dee > > > I never much entered the world of colloidal silver.So you know where to > > > get the best quality at the best price? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Duncan, Yes I've heard your explanation before but I am unmoved, as well as unimpressed, as it appears to be just a bit simplistic. The point is there is a large amount of testimonials on the curative properties of oil pulling for all sorts of conditions going back hundreds if not thousands of years in Ayurvedic medical practice - not to mention the many current testimonials totally unrelated to selling a product. If it didn't get results I doubt it would have lasted this long. Can the same thing be said for colloidal silver? I don't think so. Btw, it also depends on testimonials as there are very few studies to support it. I found this on Ray Sahelian's site. Even though he sells it he doesn't use it nor highly recommend it: " Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction? J Wound Care. 2004 Apr;13(4):154-5. Colloidal silver preparations are marketed on the internet as omnipotent antimicrobial agents, but scientific support for these claims is lacking. This study reports the results of in vitro tests of colloidal silver's antimicrobial activity against several pathogenic or non-pathogenic microorganisms. METHOD: Three samples of colloidal silver were tested: one available commercially on the internet (silver concentration of 22 ppm) and two samples (concentrations of 403 and 413 ppm) which were prepared in our laboratory using standard chemical methods. In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three colloidal silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test organisms. All tested bacterial strains were sensitive to ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22 ppm showed no bactericidal activity in phenol coefficient tests. As the tested colloidal silver solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro on the microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency are misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic. " But let's not bore the members anymore by you and I discussing this ad-nausium. There is simply no way we are going to convince each other so give it a rest as far as trying to " disprove " oil pulling. If you prefer to use and/or promote colloidal silver be my guest. In return please permit me to have my say regarding oil pulling as I have considerable personal experience in the matter. Thank You, Dee > > Dee, allow me to explain it again in a different way; basically there are four rules to this biology: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Best quality/price is to make your own. Can be done cheapest with home made systems http://www.colloidalsilver.com.au/FREE-DIY.html More convenient and still not expensive, Ode Coyote sells the silver puppy, has an excellent reputation and guarantees all. http://www.silverpuppy.com/ You use distilled water, either from the grocers or purchase a distiller. Chuck I asked her her name. She said, 'It's Pataka.' I said, 'That's an unusual name. You don't hear that every day.' To which she replied, 'Actually, I do.' On 3/11/2011 8:36:17 AM, Lyn K (godisbest4me@...) wrote: > I never much entered the world of colloidal silver.So you know where to > get the > best quality at the best price? > > > I'm a peroxide person. But you cannot swish with peroxide or it foams up right > away and has to be spit out then. > > > > On 2011-03-10 5:24 PM, Duncan Crow wrote: > > Lyn, you may find colloidal silver pulling to be a better fit. > > > > CS kills entire germ and virus classes that are untouched by oil, > > clearing about the other 3/4 of the field. Adding a few drops of > > peroxide increases the kill rate by 1000 times, and peroxide kills a few > > things, tiny parasites for example, that are untouched by either oil or > > CS swishing. > > So... why not do both? Oil pull first, then 'rinse' by pulling with the > CS+H2O combo... > > The only downside is the time/effort - but hey, it would be better than > losing your teeth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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