Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 marci, i noticed that you mentioned the helmet is more passive than the doc band. we're about to drive up to missouri for a helmet. i'm wondering if since elizabeth is already one, we're making another mistake. do you think we should look at the band instead? there's not one in our area, but we're about to drive six hours anyway, so i could just as well go to a city with a doc band. i have allot of confidence in the new orthodist in missouri, but we'll be getting a helmet, not a band. any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Tough call really. The helmet would probably help to some degree, but I can't help but believe when a child starts at an older age that something more dynamic would be better. My daughter started at 9 months old with a helmet. To be very honest I wish I had used a band. We had some good correction, but I just feel like it would have been more if we had used a band. I cannot back that up with an hard evidence, it is really just a feeling or perception. I'm sure you will get some other posts regarding this and maybe they will help you make your decision. For us distance and cost were also a factor. There were no bands available in our state at the time was beginning treatment and the helmet only cost $700. It was the best choice for us at the time. Good luck with your decision! Marci (Mom to - helmet grad) Oklahoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 reply, your not snooping. i love hearing your two cents. i think i'm going to have a nervous breakdown trying to figure out what to do. elizabeth is now one year of age so i don't know if i should go with the hanger helmet or the doc band. i feel like we've already wasted so much time. i just want to do what's right for her. In a message dated 4/30/01 3:23:56 PM Central Daylight Time, mmalfam@... writes: Sorry for snooping but I was told by Columbia that they like to use a helmet because it pushes down on the top of the head as well as all other sides of the head. This way the head doesn't grow up. Don't know if it makes anydifference in plagio...just had to put in my two cents. Hugs...if Missouri is only 6 hours away...where are you at? - Kansas City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 i just called cranio tech, their president is going to call me tomorrow. i'm also going to talk to the orthodist in missouri again. In a message dated 4/30/01 5:11:41 PM Central Daylight Time, marcisch@... writes: Tough call really. The helmet would probably help to some degree, but I can't help but believe when a child starts at an older age that something more dynamic would be better. My daughter started at 9 months old with a helmet. To be very honest I wish I had used a band. We had some good correction, but I just feel like it would have been more if we had used a band. I cannot back that up with an hard evidence, it is really just a feeling or perception. I'm sure you will get some other posts regarding this and maybe they will help you make your decision. For us distance and cost were also a factor. There were no bands available in our state at the time was beginning treatment and the helmet only cost $700. It was the best choice for us at the time. Good luck with your decision! Marci (Mom to - helmet grad) Oklahoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Sorry for snooping but I was told by Columbia that they like to use a helmet because it pushes down on the top of the head as well as all other sides of the head. This way the head doesn't grow up. Don't know if it makes anydifference in plagio...just had to put in my two cents. Hugs...if Missouri is only 6 hours away...where are you at? - Kansas City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 : There is a DOC Band clinic in Missouri as well. You can find the address at http://www.cranialtech.com/clinic/index.html This is a list of clinic locations, so perhaps you will find one even closer to you. Since is a year old, she may see faster/better progress with a band. Cranial Technologies has had many successful older graduates, even up to 2 years of age! Here is some documentation... http://www.neurosurgery.org/focus/sep00/9-3-5.pdf Let us know what you decide! Kendra in CanadaFor more plagio info, go towww.plagiocephaly.org/support... ----- Original Message ----- From: pigbroker@... Plagiocephaly Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: band vs. helmet marci, i noticed that you mentioned the helmet is more passive than the doc band. we're about to drive up to missouri for a helmet. i'm wondering if since elizabeth is already one, we're making another mistake. do you think we should look at the band instead? there's not one in our area, but we're about to drive six hours anyway, so i could just as well go to a city with a doc band. i have allot of confidence in the new orthodist in missouri, but we'll be getting a helmet, not a band. any thoughts? For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Hi , I think your pt may have given you incorrect information. Can you please ask her to direct you (so you can direct us) to any studies that have been done, proving this? The difference between bands and helmets is, bands are active, they redirect the growth of the head through gentle pressure not felt by the baby. Passive helmets are just that passive. They rely totally on growth. The helmet sits on the baby's head and eventually the baby's head grows into the shape of the helmet, round. They take longer to work and really aren't good for " older " babies as head growth slows down significantly by 6 months old. --- In Plagiocephaly , " soukasaurus " <soukup@c...> wrote: > Hello. My 4-1/2 month old has recently been diagnosed with mild > torticollis and moderate plagiocephaly. We have also started twice > weekly pt. The pt is recommending helmet therapy vs. banding. I > inquired why helmet and her answer was that is what they have seen > best results in and she has one source that she highly recommends. > Perhaps they just haven't had experience with banding. My ped is > also advocate of helmet. As time is on our side, I am eager to move > forward quickly. However, I want to make sure I'm not missing out > on researching banding option if that's a more viable route. Based > on his age and diagnosis, does anyone have any thoughts/experience > on helemt vs. banding. > Thanks so much and again, this website has made the start of this > journey that much more comfortble for us. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Hi Debbie. Thanks for reply. I suppose I need to quiz pt more on her favoring helmet over band. I think it's perhaps that's just where her experience lies. I need to also question the orthosist she recommends. The great thing is that he will come to pt office so that I don't have to drive to another location. We live in Northville, Michigan outside of Detroit. Where we stand at this moment is we're trying to figure out everythign with insurane company. They have said we need a neurosurgeon to look at our son before they will allow us to proceed with helmet/banding therapy. That just adds another step in the process whihc will slow things down, but perhaps the neurosuregeon will have opinion on helmeting vs. banding also. Re: Band vs. Helmet Hi :That's interesting what the pt told you. Most bands, such as the DOCband & STARband, are active. Meaning they apply very mild pressures (not felt or harmful to the child) the the non flat areas of the head to help redirect growth into the flat areas & areas that need correction. Bands often produce faster correction vs helmets. Most helmets are passive, meaning the helmet is simply made into the rounded shape that the head will eventually grow into over time w/growth spurts.Where do you live? Do you know what type of helmet or band is used in your area? Have you looked at our DATABASE "Helmet/band providers" in your area to see if we have one listed?Your baby is at a good younger age to begin either a passive helmet or an active band. The younger you begin treatment, esp in a passive style helmet, the better & faster the correction will be.Research all your options & decide which works best for you & your family :)Keep us posted.DebbieMI> Hello. My 4-1/2 month old has recently been diagnosed with mild > torticollis and moderate plagiocephaly. We have also started twice > weekly pt. The pt is recommending helmet therapy vs. banding. I > inquired why helmet and her answer was that is what they have seen > best results in and she has one source that she highly recommends. > Perhaps they just haven't had experience with banding. My ped is > also advocate of helmet. As time is on our side, I am eager to move > forward quickly. However, I want to make sure I'm not missing out > on researching banding option if that's a more viable route. Based > on his age and diagnosis, does anyone have any thoughts/experience > on helemt vs. banding. > Thanks so much and again, this website has made the start of this > journey that much more comfortble for us.> For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 , Thanks for feedback. Curious what "older" babies constitutes?? Re: Band vs. Helmet Hi ,I think your pt may have given you incorrect information. Can you please ask her to direct you (so you can direct us) to any studies that have been done, proving this? The difference between bands and helmets is, bands are active, they redirect the growth of the head through gentle pressure not felt by the baby. Passive helmets are just that passive. They rely totally on growth. The helmet sits on the baby's head and eventually the baby's head grows into the shape of the helmet, round. They take longer to work and really aren't good for "older" babies as head growth slows down significantly by 6 months old.> Hello. My 4-1/2 month old has recently been diagnosed with mild > torticollis and moderate plagiocephaly. We have also started twice > weekly pt. The pt is recommending helmet therapy vs. banding. I > inquired why helmet and her answer was that is what they have seen > best results in and she has one source that she highly recommends. > Perhaps they just haven't had experience with banding. My ped is > also advocate of helmet. As time is on our side, I am eager to move > forward quickly. However, I want to make sure I'm not missing out > on researching banding option if that's a more viable route. Based > on his age and diagnosis, does anyone have any thoughts/experience > on helemt vs. banding. > Thanks so much and again, this website has made the start of this > journey that much more comfortble for us.> For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 HI , Welcome to the group. I would echo what you have already been told about a helmet being passive vs. an active band. If given the choice I don't see why someone would pick the helmet, which takes longer to get the same results. We have a ton of Michigan members, so I'm sure they'll chime in. , mom to Hannah, DOCband #3 3/30 Cape Cod, Ma --- In Plagiocephaly , " soukasaurus " <soukup@c...> wrote: > Hello. My 4-1/2 month old has recently been diagnosed with mild > torticollis and moderate plagiocephaly. We have also started twice > weekly pt. The pt is recommending helmet therapy vs. banding. I > inquired why helmet and her answer was that is what they have seen > best results in and she has one source that she highly recommends. > Perhaps they just haven't had experience with banding. My ped is > also advocate of helmet. As time is on our side, I am eager to move > forward quickly. However, I want to make sure I'm not missing out > on researching banding option if that's a more viable route. Based > on his age and diagnosis, does anyone have any thoughts/experience > on helemt vs. banding. > Thanks so much and again, this website has made the start of this > journey that much more comfortble for us. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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