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> Hi everyone,

>

> Just wanted to comment on the tummy ache issue.

> Kelsey had a terrible bout of this for *months*

> last fall and winter. It is true that she also had

> a stubborn sinus infection we couldn't clear and

> I'm sure that the mucous drained into her stomach.

> But it was also a time when she was stressed

> because she was socially isolated and was

> overwhelmed with math that was too difficult for

> her. (The chicken or the egg syndrome?) I've also

> come to believe that OCDers tend to be

> hypochondriacs in some cases. I know I hear about

> every scratch, mild sore throat, congested nose,

> etc.!

>

> But as you know, she never took any meds, so she

> managed these symptoms all on her own! I think it

> was all sort of woven together. We eased up on the

> math, finally found the right antibiotic, she

> developed a fast friendship and over time the

> tummy aches went away. Every once in awhile I

> still hear about tummy aches during math time at

> school. I view this as a sign that she's

> overwhelmed and am going to talk to the teacher so

> that when she cues him about tummy aches he

> reviews what she's working on and hopefully makes

> accomodations.

>

> As for Lynn's Kim, I suspect her stomach aches

> will disappear once she's successfully learned to

> boss back her vomiting obsession and learns that

> they are a false " sign " that a bout of vomiting is

> coming on.

>

> Take care,

>

> in San Diego

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Hi, my son is 15 and just recently been diagnosed with OCD. I also

here about the little cut, scrapes, anything is a major thing. If he

stubs his toe he goes on for days about how he broke it. Tells

everyone. We learned in elemntry school that when he went to the

nurse, if he did not have a fever or had not thrown up, she gave him

mental medicine and sent him back to class. this seemed to work very

well. OCD causes so much more and goes so much deeper than people

think. I hope you have an understanding teacher. That is so

important.

Chelsea

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Dear ,

If your daughter is anything like mine, (and she sure seems to be)

then she is probably so overly focussed on vomiting that she is

misinterpreting the normal feelings in her body. My daughter spent several

years convinced that she was about to vomit. She still says " I KNOW I'm not

going to vomit, it's just OCD, but I FEEL all sick. My stomach feels mushy

(or some new adjective). " It took me the first year of her illness to realize

that she was interpreting " butterflies in the stomach " as nausea. Every time

we did something that made her nervous she would start crying that she was

going to throw up. I explained to her that her fight/flight response was set

a bit too high and her body just reacted strongly to fear - that helped a

lot. (She was four then). Now when her OCD is causing problems she has all

kinds of physical complaints (dizziness, stomachaches, mysterious aches and

pains). Her OCD (which still centers around vomiting fears) makes her focus

inward on her body so much that she can literally talk herself into being

sick. I ended up taking her to the psychiatrist two years ago when the " I

JUST KNOW I'm going to vomit " turned into actual vomiting before school most

mornings - she would flip herself out so much she would start to gag, and

then eventually, well...

It might help if you talk openly with about the icky

feelings in her stomach that may just be OCD tricking her. Of course you

might first get her checked out physically to be SURE there's nothing organic

there.

Good luck with this. I hope she continues to improve! Celexa has

done wonders for us!

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Azzie,

, age 11, gets stomach aches (sometimes), before

an episode. The pain is mild, and he doesn't always

get a fever following the stomach ache. He also will

complain of being dizzy or head hurting, at times,

without fever. I wonder if being older, makes a

difference???

Hope that helped...

Cheri, mom to with

--- Azzie F <azzief@...> wrote:

> Thanks Fran, I will send a picture. But I also have

> a question for you or

> the group. Is it common for Kianna to still get a

> stomach ache without the

> fevers. In the past the stomach aches have always

> accompanied the fever.

> Since yesterday (maybe I spoke to soon about

> remission) she has been

> complaining about having a stomach ache. What I was

> wondering was if other

> or you know or have similiar experiences and I was

> under the impression that

> Cimetidine would and does get rid of stomach aches!

> Hugs,

> Azzie, mom to Kianna 9! october 23

>

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> From:

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> Bulone

> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:46 PM

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> Subject: Re: Update on Kianna

>

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> Azzie,

> I am so happy to hear from you.

> Great news about the Cimetidine... It is definitely

> a medication worth the

> try for 6 months! If it works... no thought of

> surgery!!

> And congrats about Bella! Yes we chatted on the

> telephone and an email after

> her birth so I did know her name! Send a picture of

> the kids to my email

> when you have some time !!

> Stay well...

> With Love and best regards,

> Fran

> Fran Bulone RN

> Mom to ph 7yr CIAS1 mutation 11/05

> Waxhaw NC

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Cheri,

Thanks for the info, its funny Kianna and seem to have the same

symptoms. We skipped the fever but had some of the other symptoms so

hopefully this is all that we will have in the future.

Thanks again,

Azzie,

Mom to Kianna 9

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Cheri Payton

Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:59 PM

Subject: RE: Stomach aches

Azzie,

, age 11, gets stomach aches (sometimes), before

an episode. The pain is mild, and he doesn't always

get a fever following the stomach ache. He also will

complain of being dizzy or head hurting, at times,

without fever. I wonder if being older, makes a

difference???

Hope that helped...

Cheri, mom to with

--- Azzie F <azziefsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:azzief%40sbcglobal.net> net> wrote:

> Thanks Fran, I will send a picture. But I also have

> a question for you or

> the group. Is it common for Kianna to still get a

> stomach ache without the

> fevers. In the past the stomach aches have always

> accompanied the fever.

> Since yesterday (maybe I spoke to soon about

> remission) she has been

> complaining about having a stomach ache. What I was

> wondering was if other

> or you know or have similiar experiences and I was

> under the impression that

> Cimetidine would and does get rid of stomach aches!

> Hugs,

> Azzie, mom to Kianna 9! october 23

>

> _____

>

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> [mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com] On Behalf

Of Fran

> Bulone

> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:46 PM

> groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

> Subject: Re: Update on Kianna

>

>

>

> Azzie,

> I am so happy to hear from you.

> Great news about the Cimetidine... It is definitely

> a medication worth the

> try for 6 months! If it works... no thought of

> surgery!!

> And congrats about Bella! Yes we chatted on the

> telephone and an email after

> her birth so I did know her name! Send a picture of

> the kids to my email

> when you have some time !!

> Stay well...

> With Love and best regards,

> Fran

> Fran Bulone RN

> Mom to ph 7yr CIAS1 mutation 11/05

> Waxhaw NC

> http://groups.

> <http://groups. </>

/group//>

> /group//

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Hi Bee and group,

How are you doing? I started having stomach aches about 3 weeks ago. They come

and go, but seem to start mainly after Bee's egg drink for breakfast, but

sometimes start in the morning before I've eaten. I've been on the diet since

mid-January. I thought that maybe the aches were from retracing as I have had

stomach aches infrequently over the years but now I'm thinking the aches are

more die-off since they are continuing on after 3 weeks. I made some ginger tea

yesterday afternoon which helped a little and the stomach ache subsided, only to

come back right before dinner continuing through the night to now (midmorning).

After searching on the group I just ate some sauerkraut which seems to

have helped a little. I massage my abdomen daily and I can't find a specific

area that hurts, the whole abdomen just seems to ache (gas?).

So my questions:

1. Does this seem like die-off (gas from candida??), digestive problems, or

could I be doing something wrong? I'm fully on the diet, up to 4 T and 1 t.

VCO.

2. In some posts on the group you recommended others with abdominal pain

to do the 9 day program. I am considering doing it again. I previously did it

and wonder if I can do the 2 enemas a day again or if I should just do pureed

foods and enemas only every 5 days?

Thanks again for your help! I really appreciate this wonderful group.

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> Hi Bee and group,

>

> How are you doing? I started having stomach aches about 3 weeks ago. They

come and go, but seem to start mainly after Bee's egg drink for breakfast, but

sometimes start in the morning before I've eaten. I've been on the diet since

mid-January. I thought that maybe the aches were from retracing as I have had

stomach aches infrequently over the years but now I'm thinking the aches are

more die-off since they are continuing on after 3 weeks. I made some ginger tea

yesterday afternoon which helped a little and the stomach ache subsided, only to

come back right before dinner continuing through the night to now (midmorning).

After searching on the group I just ate some sauerkraut which seems to

have helped a little. I massage my abdomen daily and I can't find a specific

area that hurts, the whole abdomen just seems to ache (gas?).

>

> So my questions:

>

> 1. Does this seem like die-off (gas from candida??), digestive problems, or

could I be doing something wrong? I'm fully on the diet, up to 4 T and 1 t.

VCO.

>

> 2. In some posts on the group you recommended others with abdominal

pain to do the 9 day program. I am considering doing it again. I previously did

it and wonder if I can do the 2 enemas a day again or if I should just do pureed

foods and enemas only every 5 days?

+++Hi . I think your stomach aches may be caused by low stomach acid.

Ensure you are eating 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sauerkraut with every meal or taking

Betaine Hydrochloric acid - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig5.php

+++You can consume liquid or pureed foods any time you have digestive problems

without doing the enemas (or do them every 4-5 days), since stomach aches and

nausea can be caused by stress. If your body is running on high adrenaline it

lowers your digestive capability, particularly stomach acid. If that's the

case, do deep breathing exercises frequently:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath1.php

> Thanks again for your help! I really appreciate this wonderful group.

+++You are very welcome!

All the best, Bee

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Thanks Bee! I am eating about 1/2 cup sauerkraut with each meal, except for the

egg drink for breakfast, plus I take 6 to 7 Betaine Hydrochloric Acid with each

meal (including breakfast). I was taking 9 to 10 HCL but then started getting

some burning so I reduced it down. But maybe due to stress I need more like you

said. I will try it and let you know. When I was massaging this morning I

found that my lower right hand side was painful, the ileocecal valve area. I

massaged it and my tummy is feeling better. But other times I don't feel a

specific painful area like I already said.

I remembered after I posted this morning that I got the first stomach ache 3

weeks ago after a chiropractor adjusted my upper spine. He had adjusted it

multiple times over the last few months but that was the first time I had the

abdominal pain.

Thanks for your help. I will keep you posted!

Best Regards,

>

> +++Hi . I think your stomach aches may be caused by low stomach acid.

Ensure you are eating 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sauerkraut with every meal or taking

Betaine Hydrochloric acid - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig5.php

>

> +++You can consume liquid or pureed foods any time you have digestive problems

without doing the enemas (or do them every 4-5 days), since stomach aches and

nausea can be caused by stress. If your body is running on high adrenaline it

lowers your digestive capability, particularly stomach acid. If that's the

case, do deep breathing exercises frequently:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath1.php

>

> +++You are very welcome!

>

> All the best, Bee

>

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> Thanks Bee! I am eating about 1/2 cup sauerkraut with each meal, except for

the egg drink for breakfast, plus I take 6 to 7 Betaine Hydrochloric Acid with

each meal (including breakfast). I was taking 9 to 10 HCL but then started

getting some burning so I reduced it down. But maybe due to stress I need more

like you said. I will try it and let you know. When I was massaging this

morning I found that my lower right hand side was painful, the ileocecal valve

area. I massaged it and my tummy is feeling better. But other times I don't

feel a specific painful area like I already said.

>

> I remembered after I posted this morning that I got the first stomach ache 3

weeks ago after a chiropractor adjusted my upper spine. He had adjusted it

multiple times over the last few months but that was the first time I had the

abdominal pain.

+++Hi . That's good you are massaging your ileocecal valve - keep doing

it.

Maybe you should see your chiropractor again.

The best, Bee

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Hi ,

I have the stomach aches too. They started a few months pre-diet and have

continued. In fact, I think they may have started when I started with this new

chiropractor. She told me they were probably referred pain from my back. Not

sure what to think. My back is better, but my stomach is not!

Keep me posted on what works for you!

Chris

>

> I remembered after I posted this morning that I got the first stomach ache 3

weeks ago after a chiropractor adjusted my upper spine. He had adjusted it

multiple times over the last few months but that was the first time I had the

abdominal pain.

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Tummy aches can come along with braces/casts that are too tight, outgrown

or ill fitting. Hows he doing now and have heard back from the docs?

Pls let us know.

HRH

> I need some input.  I realize I might be over reacting and jumping to

> conclusions, but when something goes wrong I always wonder if it's related

> to my son's scoliosis. 

>  

> has been having stomach aches fairly frequently the past couple of

> weeks.  Mostly they're mild, just enough to make him whiny and complain

> that his stomach hurts, but this week he has had 3 bad enough to ask for

> his brace off, no hugs, not even a kiss on the forehead.  He didn't want

> to be touched because it hurt so bad.  He did have a bit of gas with two

> most recent.  At first I thought he was getting the flu, but never any

> vomitting, he was fine in the morning and ate breakfast like normal. 

>  

> It just seems somewhat sudden and mysterious to me.  Have any of you

> experienced stomach issues while wearing a brace/cast? 

> I'm curious if it's related at all, is it the brace, or is the scoliosis

> getting worse?  Ugh.  I hate not knowing.  We don't go back to the Dr. for

> a check up until the end of February.  I'm going to call our pediatrician

> and talk to the nurse tomorrow, but I just thought I'd get some of your

> input as well. 

>  

>

> 's mom (6 years old, 36* and 28* curves,  in a brace 23 hours a day)

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He was fine this morning. I haven't heard back from the Dr. yet, but will keep you posted on what I do find out.

Thanks.

From: "heather@..." <heather@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:17 PMSubject: Re: stomach aches

Tummy aches can come along with braces/casts that are too tight, outgrownor ill fitting. Hows he doing now and have heard back from the docs?Pls let us know.HRH> I need some input. I realize I might be over reacting and jumping to> conclusions, but when something goes wrong I always wonder if it's related> to my son's scoliosis. > > has been having stomach aches fairly frequently the past couple of> weeks. Mostly they're mild, just enough to make him whiny and complain> that his stomach hurts, but this week he has had 3 bad enough to ask for> his brace off, no hugs, not even a kiss on the forehead. He didn't want> to be touched because it hurt so bad. He did have a bit of gas with two> most recent. At first I thought he was getting the flu, but never any> vomitting, he was fine in the morning

and ate breakfast like normal. > > It just seems somewhat sudden and mysterious to me. Have any of you> experienced stomach issues while wearing a brace/cast? > I'm curious if it's related at all, is it the brace, or is the scoliosis> getting worse? Ugh. I hate not knowing. We don't go back to the Dr. for> a check up until the end of February. I'm going to call our pediatrician> and talk to the nurse tomorrow, but I just thought I'd get some of your> input as well. > > > 's mom (6 years old, 36* and 28* curves, in a brace 23 hours a day)

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Addie was complaining of stomach aches this week, too. She was even a little

sick because of it.

Personally, I think it's just a flu bug going around right now, and not related

to the brace that she's wearing.

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Stomach aches are the most common kid complaint and are a sign of Anxiety.  I know my older one has a lot of anxiety (a lot stemming from drs.).  I don't know if that might be an issue?  Jenn Mommy to Cole & Max

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Hi ,

Not sure how it is going with the stomach aches, but I also wonder if he could

be having constipation issues. In our case it is part of the whole scoli

package and low muscle tone.

Hope he is feeling better.

>

> I need some input.  I realize I might be over reacting and jumping to

conclusions, but when something goes wrong I always wonder if it's related to my

son's scoliosis. 

>  

> has been having stomach aches fairly frequently the past couple of

weeks.  Mostly they're mild, just enough to make him whiny and complain that his

stomach hurts, but this week he has had 3 bad enough to ask for his brace off,

no hugs, not even a kiss on the forehead.  He didn't want to be touched because

it hurt so bad.  He did have a bit of gas with two most recent.  At first I

thought he was getting the flu, but never any vomitting, he was fine in the

morning and ate breakfast like normal. 

>  

> It just seems somewhat sudden and mysterious to me.  Have any of you

experienced stomach issues while wearing a brace/cast? 

> I'm curious if it's related at all, is it the brace, or is the scoliosis

getting worse?  Ugh.  I hate not knowing.  We don't go back to the Dr. for a

check up until the end of February.  I'm going to call our pediatrician and talk

to the nurse tomorrow, but I just thought I'd get some of your input as well. 

>  

>

> 's mom (6 years old, 36* and 28* curves,  in a brace 23 hours a day)

>

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Thanks for all of yourinput. I've been paying close attention to 's stomach aches to see whether it's the type of food he's been eating or what. I've found that it happened twice this week when I've been gone at bedtime. He missed me! Sweet, but unlike him to get that upset. I'm guessing anxiety has been a culprit, but I still wonder how much of it is all rolled into the scoliosis package. I'll be sure to keep sn eye om it. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE Phone Re: stomach aches Hi ,Not sure how it is going with the stomach aches, but I also wonder if he could be having constipation issues. In our case it is part of the whole scoli package and low muscle tone. Hope he is feeling better.>> I need some input.  I realize I might be over reacting and jumping to conclusions, but when something goes wrong I always wonder if it's related to my son's scoliosis.  >  > has been having stomach aches fairly frequently the past couple of weeks.  Mostly they're mild, just enough to make him whiny and complain that his stomach hurts, but this week he has had 3 bad enough to ask for his brace off, no hugs, not even a kiss on the forehead.  He didn't want to be touched because it hurt so bad.  He did have a bit of gas with two most recent.  At first I thought he was getting the flu, but never any vomitting, he was fine in the morning and ate breakfast like normal.  >  > It just seems somewhat sudden and mysterious to me.  Have any of you experienced stomach issues while wearing a brace/cast?  > I'm curious if it's related at all, is it the brace, or is the scoliosis getting worse?  Ugh.  I hate not knowing.  We don't go back to the Dr. for a check up until the end of February.  I'm going to call our pediatrician and talk to the nurse tomorrow, but I just thought I'd get some of your input as well.  >  > > 's mom (6 years old, 36* and 28* curves,  in a brace 23 hours a day)>

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