Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Heya hon, First of all don't panic. Realize that you are already a huge step ahead of the general population because you've chosen to DO something about a problem you see. You are already Wonder Woman for having the guts to change and go for better health! Atkins is scary, for a lot of reasons I'm not going to get into. And coming off of it, especially off of induction kinda wigs your body out. You will see a weight gain when you readjust your diet, but that will NOT last. This is your body screaming for balance. As soon as you convince it that you're not going to start depriving it again it will flip right back into weight loosing mode. I promise it will if you can just convince yourself to stay with the program and have some patience with yourself. Also remember that it's not all about scale weight. Your scale LIES to you because your scale doesn't know the difference between fat, lean mass, muscle and water. Doesn't know any difference what so ever. To be 180 lb of muscle is a very different thing than clinging to that in fat. As well the human body is a wonderful water pump and if your body is dehydrated, or afraid of being dehydrated, which Atkins systems can do, it will hang onto upto 12 pound of extra water. Again, as soon as your body realizes that you're willing to give it all the water it wants...whoosh...water weight will come off. The body for life program is not set in stone. You may need to have your first week be an introduction of carbs a bit at a time, mostly with your first three meals of the day, then increase the next week and again the next until you're at the 'palm/fist' ratio where you can maintain a healthy balance. This may help with making the balance your body is striving for come more easily. You can do this, you can do this, you can do this! BFL is a healthy way to live, not just diet, and that's really what we all need. The root of the word diet is die...ewwww... I know that I don't want a diet, I want a LIVE it! Hang in there, and realize there's a huge support group of wonderful women right here. You can come and scream, share stories, read about the things we all go through, sometimes it takes a reminder that you're not alone and that we believe in you! You just need to believe in yourself. Patience Perseverance Positivity Pride And I'm not out of descriptors that start with P. Give it a chance, which will mean at least a month, and either lock your scale away so you only look at it about once every 10-14 days...or back over it with a truck so it won't taunt you while you're doing a healthy thing. Good luck, ~Jena At 08:47 AM 6/12/2004, you wrote: >I got to rock bottom a few weeks ago (it felt like) with my >unhappiness with my weight, appearance, etc. So I decided to do the >Atkins induction.....at first results were great...but I DIDNT LIKE >THE IDEA of not being able to eat veggies and fruit, that JUST ISNT >RIGHT to me.....plus I about DIED from gas and bloating when I >splurged on some " no net carb " chocolate candy and whatnot.....WOW >found out that the " sugar alcohols " that are in the " sugar free >candies " do NOT AGREE WITH ME>..... >So ANYWAY----------after NO carbing it forever, if I start this body >for life thing, will I see a huge weight gain because of >incorporating carbs back into my diet.........I AM at my wits end >and am desperate need of finding something that I CAN STICK TO, that >I will be pleased with the results of, etc etc. >ANY and ALL suggestions/advice will be appreciated greatly! Thank >you. >'Ivana' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Heh...you get another one from me. I swear I can't shut up...or at least can't stop my fingers. Heh. Eating out is still very possible on the BFL, you just have to be a bit creative, but if you were doing Atkins you were already used to that. An example... You can get a steak and steamed veggies, but now you can also have a wheat roll to go with it, or a small baked potato, or a portion of spinach fetticini... Or go chicken with grilled veggies and add some of the other stuff I just mentioned. BFL isn't taking away your options, but adding to them! As far as your weightloss goals, you'll want to set smaller goals that you can see the results of instead of trying to take it all at once. And remember that body fat percentage is MORE important than scale weight. Again your scale is a big old liar and 1 lb of muscle is about 5 times as heavy as 1 lb of fat, but it's MUCH sexier and 1 lb of muscle burns about an extra 50 calories a day when you're watching TV with your feet up on the desk. Muscle GOOOD, it's just the muscle is heavy, so especially as you start firming up and getting definition you have to ignore the scale if it shows a minor weight gain. You can get your bodyfat measured in a lot of ways and that's the percentage to pay more attention to. And yep, it is lots of preparation and meals. Many meals though keeps you from getting hungry. By the time your body is beginning to grumble because it's moved everything you've eaten from the upper digestive tract to the lower, you're eating again. This makes for a happy body and one that has a lot more energy and better muscle building fat burning potential. The prep work is just what comes with the program. Any lifestyle change comes with changes in habits and thought patterns. This is no different. You'll need to learn about menu making, which there are a TON of helps for. If you go to the body for life homepage, http://www.bodyforlife.com they have a sample for a week long set of meal plans that is helpful. Make plans and then make the best use of the time you have to be prepared so that the program is easy to stay on. The percentages are 40protein40carbs20fat. If you go back a few messages there are links to a few pages where it'll show you how to breakdown everything into numbers. Don't get too obsessive about numbers, that's one more preparation step, but it can be good to know the numbers to start with so that you can estimate more easily and feel comfortable with what you're adding to your diet. The work out is the second place where it's at. If you get your nutrition squared away now the exercise can kick in in just the right place. Cardio burns fat, smooths up the lines of your body, is great for your skin and works your heart and lungs. Not to mention that you get a great natural high from working out. The human body is MADE to work and thrives on it. Weight lifting burns carbs and helps to build that elusive muscle mass, which as I mentioned burns more calories and gives a woman a great figure. Don't worry about getting too bulky. It won't happen unless you're really working hard on your power lifting and trying for it, and even then many women lack the necessary testosterone to build really hulking muscles. 20 minutes is a good starting place, then as you get further into the program you can adjust if you feel you need a little more. 20-45 minutes is plenty aggressive for the majority of us and will help bring the weight off in a HEALTHY way. Sorry for the length...I get rambling on these things. ~Jena At 09:32 AM 6/12/2004, you wrote: >Wow, you's reply quickly....thank you. That is what I definitely >need to get outta my head....the D-I-E-T thing....cause I am smart >enough to know that of COURSE, any fad diet works if you do it to a >T (south beach, atkins, grapefruit, PEANUT BUTTER DIET..haha) but >thats just what those probably are....A FADDDDDDDDD....the problem >comes in MAINTAINING and not feeling like you are DEPRIVING YOURSELF >from eating....etc.etc....I hated Atkins because it just doesn't >seem right that I can't eat a darn apple or something...Ok now on >these portion sizes (fist) how many " grams " of each should I have >roughly per each meal...because I am so used to looking at the >numbers and I would hate to incorporate more than I am supposed >to...etc.....I have been reading a few of the old posts and more >often than not I see that you's have said to FOLLOW BFL EXACTLY by >the book....is that guaranteed results??? >UGH....seems like a lot of preparation, lotsa meals, etc....what >about going out to dinner (which my boyfriend and I like to do) is >that out the window? >OH AND THESE HIIT workouts and weight training regiments? IS that >where its at??? Just TWENTY minutes and so on??? >HMMMM.........god I want to look GOOD for once... >Oh my stats >I am 5'8 1/2 (have to throw the half inch in there) >and weigh 165 >I want to get to a solid, healthy strong 135-140 >currently busting out of my tens pushing more towards twelves...want >to get to a DEFINITE and comfortable 6 or 8?? >Can it be done?? >THanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 > <snip>...but I DIDNT LIKE > THE IDEA of not being able to eat veggies and fruit, <snip> > So ANYWAY----------after NO carbing it forever.... I want to suggest that you read the BFL book really thoroughly and follow the guidelines closely. From the above quotes, it doesn't sound like you did this with Atkins (you *can* eat veggies, and its LOW carb, not NO carb!). BFL is lots more complicated than Atkins - you need to watch carbs, protein, fat, calories, etc. - so be sure you really know what the guidelines are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 The problem one encounters tho when eating out is following thru to making those better choices - oh ye of little willpower! Set a menu in front of me with sizzling mouth watering pictures and my resolve wains completely! Then we sit waiting for the waiter to take our order and the smells of foods going by or peering over at what the people at the next table are eating, and then asking around what other people are going to order yikes! I think I'm going to have a foodie attack! Thats why I leave going out to eat (even to a fastfood place ..ahh the smell of french fries!)to a free meal/day time - then if I feel like ordering something different I can and it kind of makes it more under my control instead of the 'oh no I cant have that' feeling of deprivation that comes over me - it makes it more my choice so probably nine times out of ten I do choose the chicken with the veggies on the side, but I know I couldve had the nachos if I had wanted them. Kind of a mindgame eh? ;-) <<joni>> *To eat is human. To fit into your clothes is divine* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Actually during the induction phase of Atkins it says to avoid fruit and most vegetables (except for like celery, lettuce, etc) So yeah.......and I know it was LOW CARB not NO CARB....20 grams/ day for the induction phase....so if you figure that out....20 grams a day?? HOLY COW..what was I thinking...UGH anyway- > > <snip>...but I DIDNT LIKE > > THE IDEA of not being able to eat veggies and fruit, <snip> > > So ANYWAY----------after NO carbing it forever.... > > I want to suggest that you read the BFL book really thoroughly and > follow the guidelines closely. From the above quotes, it doesn't > sound like you did this with Atkins (you *can* eat veggies, and its > LOW carb, not NO carb!). BFL is lots more complicated than Atkins - > you need to watch carbs, protein, fat, calories, etc. - so be sure you > really know what the guidelines are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Jena: 1 lb of muscle is about 5 times as heavy as 1 lb of fat Lydia: I think what you meant to say is that 1 lb of fat is about 5 times the SIZE of 1 lb of muscle... cuz a pound is a pound, and always weighs the same amount (on an accurate scale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 *chuckles* You're right about a pound being a pound. Let me to rephrase. I meant that volume size doesn't necessarily equal weight. Two pieces of tissue, one fat and one muscle, with the same surface area will not weigh the same. The muscle is more dense than the fat, and will have a heavier poundage for the same surface area amount than the fat will. Like weighing one cup of sugar and one cup of feathers. Ergo why scale weight can be a big ol' fib. ~Jena At 07:38 AM 6/17/2004, you wrote: >Jena: >1 lb of muscle is about 5 times as heavy as 1 lb of fat > >Lydia: >I think what you meant to say is that 1 lb of fat is about 5 times the SIZE >of 1 lb of muscle... cuz a pound is a pound, and always weighs the same >amount (on an accurate scale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Have been sick for years. Fibromyalgia, IBS, Low B12, Low VD(better now), fatigue, depression, anxiety, yeast in mouth, etc. take nystatin periodically plus lota of meds. Lately worse. Working but struggling a lot. Just scared. I am going to do it but afraid die off will cause me to be unable to work but do have lots of support if that happens. Plan to go to health food store today to get supplement but the more I read the more confused I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 > > Have been sick for years. Fibromyalgia, IBS, Low B12, Low VD(better now), fatigue, depression, anxiety, yeast in mouth, etc. take nystatin periodically plus lota of meds. Lately worse. Working but struggling a lot. Just scared. I am going to do it but afraid die off will cause me to be unable to work but do have lots of support if that happens. Plan to go to health food store today to get supplement but the more I read the more confused I get. +++Hi there. Welcome to our group. What is your name please? We all understand what you are going through, and this program has been the most successful for curing candida. It is also an overall healing program which improves anyone's health, even if they don't have candida. You will have some control over your die-off symptoms, if you take your time and slowly change over to this diet. When you do, you need to stop taking Nystatin, since I recommend a much better antifungal, which provides many other health benefits too - that IS unrefined coconut oil. But you need to start with small amounts like 1 teaspoon 3 times a day with meals (some people need to start on less) and only gradually increase it so your die-off symptoms aren't severe. It is important to read 2 articles first: 1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php 2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php It is good to write down you own plan for making the transition over to this diet according to suggestions in the 2nd article above. Take your time my friend. Every step you take gets you closer and closer to becoming healthy, so take it one step at a time. As you progress you can get lots of support from all of us, since we " have been there, done that! " For encouragement and inspiration see the Success Stories: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 > > Hello Bee, > My name is . I have never been on anything online. I am crying as I write. I want to feel better and you have no idea what finding hope means to me. Thank you for you support. This is very difficult for me. I am very independent. +++Hi . It's good to know your name, since I can't remember people by their email. There is so much hope for you my friend! I can understand crying since you've finally found something that is going to make you feel better. I can get into " cheerful tearful " episodes myself when I'm overjoyed by someone's gains on my program, and I'm so happy you have hope now! You certainly can't go wrong following Nature's Fundamental Laws on health and living. This program is what our bodies are designed to have in order to be healthy, and it works for everyone if they follow it carefully. So it's back to Nature ! Of course it isn't easy since there will be many ups and downs because of how our bodies heal themselves. Healing is actually the reverse of the dis-ease process, but we know now we are not going to deteriorate like we did when we went down the tubes. It's now onward and upward towards health!! You can do this . Just do one step at a time, and we are here to help you. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 > +++Hi . It's good to know your name, since I can't remember people by their email. > > There is so much hope for you my friend! I can understand crying since you've finally found something that is going to make you feel better. I can get into " cheerful tearful " episodes myself when I'm overjoyed by someone's gains on my program, and I'm so happy you have hope now! Thank you Bee, I have printed the needed articles, diet, supplements, etc. and am going to start my shopping list/journal so I can go get what I need to start. Today is my day off so I have some time. A good time to get started. Thank youagain for the encouragement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 > > Have been sick for years. Fibromyalgia, IBS, Low B12, Low VD(better now), fatigue, depression, anxiety, yeast in mouth, etc. take nystatin periodically plus lota of meds. Lately worse. Working but struggling a lot. Just scared. I am going to do it but afraid die off will cause me to be unable to work but do have lots of support if that happens. Plan to go to health food store today to get supplement but the more I read the more confused I get. > Hi and welcome You are in the best hands. You can have us hold yours for awhile and then you can do it. It is confusing and scary at first and as Bee says there will be up & down and always moving higher towards excellent health. Maybe she is starting to detox already Bee through her tears. Well maybe im stretching it and maybe not. Trust that this will work and keep going. Yes, confusion is a symptom of too many carbs and not enough fats and protein. Read carefully about the supplements. Die off can be minimized by careful management. Neal Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Hi , This is from another, . You will get a lot of help, support, and encouragement in this group. I started slowly, asked questions, and read a lot from Bee's site. I see improvements. I read a lot on nutrition, over the years, and it helped, and at other times set me back. I was already avoiding most processed foods, and avoided most gluten, and sugar, so my die-offs were not severe. It was new for me to give up fruit, and yogurt. Please work on being less independent, and work on trusting Bee's site. Wishing you the best of health. C. > > Hello Bee, > My name is . I have never been on anything online. I am crying as I write. I want to feel better and you have no idea what finding hope means to me. Thank you for you support. This is very difficult for me. I am very independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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