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Heya hon,

First of all don't panic. Realize that you are already a huge step ahead

of the general population because you've chosen to DO something about a

problem you see. You are already Wonder Woman for having the guts to

change and go for better health!

Atkins is scary, for a lot of reasons I'm not going to get into. And

coming off of it, especially off of induction kinda wigs your body

out. You will see a weight gain when you readjust your diet, but that will

NOT last. This is your body screaming for balance. As soon as you

convince it that you're not going to start depriving it again it will flip

right back into weight loosing mode. I promise it will if you can just

convince yourself to stay with the program and have some patience with

yourself. Also remember that it's not all about scale weight. Your scale

LIES to you because your scale doesn't know the difference between fat,

lean mass, muscle and water. Doesn't know any difference what so ever. To

be 180 lb of muscle is a very different thing than clinging to that in

fat. As well the human body is a wonderful water pump and if your body is

dehydrated, or afraid of being dehydrated, which Atkins systems can do, it

will hang onto upto 12 pound of extra water. Again, as soon as your body

realizes that you're willing to give it all the water it

wants...whoosh...water weight will come off.

The body for life program is not set in stone. You may need to have your

first week be an introduction of carbs a bit at a time, mostly with your

first three meals of the day, then increase the next week and again the

next until you're at the 'palm/fist' ratio where you can maintain a healthy

balance. This may help with making the balance your body is striving for

come more easily.

You can do this, you can do this, you can do this! BFL is a healthy way to

live, not just diet, and that's really what we all need. The root of the

word diet is die...ewwww... I know that I don't want a diet, I want a LIVE it!

Hang in there, and realize there's a huge support group of wonderful women

right here. You can come and scream, share stories, read about the things

we all go through, sometimes it takes a reminder that you're not alone and

that we believe in you! You just need to believe in yourself.

Patience

Perseverance

Positivity

Pride

And I'm not out of descriptors that start with P. :)

Give it a chance, which will mean at least a month, and either lock your

scale away so you only look at it about once every 10-14 days...or back

over it with a truck so it won't taunt you while you're doing a healthy thing.

Good luck,

~Jena

At 08:47 AM 6/12/2004, you wrote:

>I got to rock bottom a few weeks ago (it felt like) with my

>unhappiness with my weight, appearance, etc. So I decided to do the

>Atkins induction.....at first results were great...but I DIDNT LIKE

>THE IDEA of not being able to eat veggies and fruit, that JUST ISNT

>RIGHT to me.....plus I about DIED from gas and bloating when I

>splurged on some " no net carb " chocolate candy and whatnot.....WOW

>found out that the " sugar alcohols " that are in the " sugar free

>candies " do NOT AGREE WITH ME>.....

>So ANYWAY----------after NO carbing it forever, if I start this body

>for life thing, will I see a huge weight gain because of

>incorporating carbs back into my diet.........I AM at my wits end

>and am desperate need of finding something that I CAN STICK TO, that

>I will be pleased with the results of, etc etc.

>ANY and ALL suggestions/advice will be appreciated greatly! Thank

>you.

>'Ivana'

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Heh...you get another one from me. I swear I can't shut up...or at least

can't stop my fingers. Heh.

Eating out is still very possible on the BFL, you just have to be a bit

creative, but if you were doing Atkins you were already used to that. An

example... You can get a steak and steamed veggies, but now you can also

have a wheat roll to go with it, or a small baked potato, or a portion of

spinach fetticini... Or go chicken with grilled veggies and add some of

the other stuff I just mentioned. BFL isn't taking away your options, but

adding to them! :)

As far as your weightloss goals, you'll want to set smaller goals that you

can see the results of instead of trying to take it all at once. And

remember that body fat percentage is MORE important than scale

weight. Again your scale is a big old liar and 1 lb of muscle is about 5

times as heavy as 1 lb of fat, but it's MUCH sexier and 1 lb of muscle

burns about an extra 50 calories a day when you're watching TV with your

feet up on the desk. :) Muscle GOOOD, it's just the muscle is heavy, so

especially as you start firming up and getting definition you have to

ignore the scale if it shows a minor weight gain. You can get your bodyfat

measured in a lot of ways and that's the percentage to pay more attention to.

And yep, it is lots of preparation and meals. Many meals though keeps you

from getting hungry. By the time your body is beginning to grumble because

it's moved everything you've eaten from the upper digestive tract to the

lower, you're eating again. This makes for a happy body and one that has a

lot more energy and better muscle building fat burning potential. The prep

work is just what comes with the program. Any lifestyle change comes with

changes in habits and thought patterns. This is no different. You'll need

to learn about menu making, which there are a TON of helps for. If you go

to the body for life homepage, http://www.bodyforlife.com they have a

sample for a week long set of meal plans that is helpful. Make plans and

then make the best use of the time you have to be prepared so that the

program is easy to stay on.

The percentages are 40protein40carbs20fat. If you go back a few messages

there are links to a few pages where it'll show you how to breakdown

everything into numbers. Don't get too obsessive about numbers, that's one

more preparation step, but it can be good to know the numbers to start with

so that you can estimate more easily and feel comfortable with what you're

adding to your diet.

The work out is the second place where it's at. If you get your nutrition

squared away now the exercise can kick in in just the right place. Cardio

burns fat, smooths up the lines of your body, is great for your skin and

works your heart and lungs. Not to mention that you get a great natural

high from working out. The human body is MADE to work and thrives on

it. Weight lifting burns carbs and helps to build that elusive muscle

mass, which as I mentioned burns more calories and gives a woman a great

figure. Don't worry about getting too bulky. It won't happen unless

you're really working hard on your power lifting and trying for it, and

even then many women lack the necessary testosterone to build really

hulking muscles. 20 minutes is a good starting place, then as you get

further into the program you can adjust if you feel you need a little

more. 20-45 minutes is plenty aggressive for the majority of us and will

help bring the weight off in a HEALTHY way.

Sorry for the length...I get rambling on these things. :P

~Jena

At 09:32 AM 6/12/2004, you wrote:

>Wow, you's reply quickly....thank you. That is what I definitely

>need to get outta my head....the D-I-E-T thing....cause I am smart

>enough to know that of COURSE, any fad diet works if you do it to a

>T (south beach, atkins, grapefruit, PEANUT BUTTER DIET..haha) but

>thats just what those probably are....A FADDDDDDDDD....the problem

>comes in MAINTAINING and not feeling like you are DEPRIVING YOURSELF

>from eating....etc.etc....I hated Atkins because it just doesn't

>seem right that I can't eat a darn apple or something...Ok now on

>these portion sizes (fist) how many " grams " of each should I have

>roughly per each meal...because I am so used to looking at the

>numbers and I would hate to incorporate more than I am supposed

>to...etc.....I have been reading a few of the old posts and more

>often than not I see that you's have said to FOLLOW BFL EXACTLY by

>the book....is that guaranteed results???

>UGH....seems like a lot of preparation, lotsa meals, etc....what

>about going out to dinner (which my boyfriend and I like to do) is

>that out the window?

>OH AND THESE HIIT workouts and weight training regiments? IS that

>where its at??? Just TWENTY minutes and so on???

>HMMMM.........god I want to look GOOD for once... :(

>Oh my stats

>I am 5'8 1/2 (have to throw the half inch in there)

>and weigh 165

>I want to get to a solid, healthy strong 135-140

>currently busting out of my tens pushing more towards twelves...want

>to get to a DEFINITE and comfortable 6 or 8??

>Can it be done?? :(

>THanks in advance!

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> <snip>...but I DIDNT LIKE

> THE IDEA of not being able to eat veggies and fruit, <snip>

> So ANYWAY----------after NO carbing it forever....

I want to suggest that you read the BFL book really thoroughly and

follow the guidelines closely. From the above quotes, it doesn't

sound like you did this with Atkins (you *can* eat veggies, and its

LOW carb, not NO carb!). BFL is lots more complicated than Atkins -

you need to watch carbs, protein, fat, calories, etc. - so be sure you

really know what the guidelines are.

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The problem one encounters tho when eating out is following thru to

making those better choices - oh ye of little willpower! Set a menu

in front of me with sizzling mouth watering pictures and my resolve

wains completely! Then we sit waiting for the waiter to take our

order and the smells of foods going by or peering over at what the

people at the next table are eating, and then asking around what

other people are going to order yikes! I think I'm going to have a

foodie attack! Thats why I leave going out to eat (even to a

fastfood place ..ahh the smell of french fries!)to a free meal/day

time - then if I feel like ordering something different I can and it

kind of makes it more under my control instead of the 'oh no I cant

have that' feeling of deprivation that comes over me - it makes it

more my choice so probably nine times out of ten I do choose the

chicken with the veggies on the side, but I know I couldve had the

nachos if I had wanted them. Kind of a mindgame eh? ;-)

<<joni>>

*To eat is human. To fit into your clothes is divine*

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Actually during the induction phase of Atkins it says to avoid fruit

and most vegetables (except for like celery, lettuce, etc)

So yeah.......and I know it was LOW CARB not NO CARB....20 grams/

day for the induction phase....so if you figure that out....20 grams

a day?? HOLY COW..what was I thinking...UGH

anyway-

> > <snip>...but I DIDNT LIKE

> > THE IDEA of not being able to eat veggies and fruit, <snip>

> > So ANYWAY----------after NO carbing it forever....

>

> I want to suggest that you read the BFL book really thoroughly and

> follow the guidelines closely. From the above quotes, it doesn't

> sound like you did this with Atkins (you *can* eat veggies, and its

> LOW carb, not NO carb!). BFL is lots more complicated than

Atkins -

> you need to watch carbs, protein, fat, calories, etc. - so be sure

you

> really know what the guidelines are.

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Jena:

1 lb of muscle is about 5 times as heavy as 1 lb of fat

Lydia:

I think what you meant to say is that 1 lb of fat is about 5 times the SIZE

of 1 lb of muscle... cuz a pound is a pound, and always weighs the same

amount (on an accurate scale)

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*chuckles* You're right about a pound being a pound. Let me to

rephrase. I meant that volume size doesn't necessarily equal weight. Two

pieces of tissue, one fat and one muscle, with the same surface area will

not weigh the same. The muscle is more dense than the fat, and will have a

heavier poundage for the same surface area amount than the fat will. Like

weighing one cup of sugar and one cup of feathers. Ergo why scale weight

can be a big ol' fib.

~Jena

At 07:38 AM 6/17/2004, you wrote:

>Jena:

>1 lb of muscle is about 5 times as heavy as 1 lb of fat

>

>Lydia:

>I think what you meant to say is that 1 lb of fat is about 5 times the SIZE

>of 1 lb of muscle... cuz a pound is a pound, and always weighs the same

>amount (on an accurate scale)

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Have been sick for years. Fibromyalgia, IBS, Low B12, Low VD(better now),

fatigue, depression, anxiety, yeast in mouth, etc. take nystatin periodically

plus lota of meds. Lately worse. Working but struggling a lot. Just scared. I

am going to do it but afraid die off will cause me to be unable to work but do

have lots of support if that happens. Plan to go to health food store today to

get supplement but the more I read the more confused I get.

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> Have been sick for years. Fibromyalgia, IBS, Low B12, Low VD(better now),

fatigue, depression, anxiety, yeast in mouth, etc. take nystatin periodically

plus lota of meds. Lately worse. Working but struggling a lot. Just scared. I

am going to do it but afraid die off will cause me to be unable to work but do

have lots of support if that happens. Plan to go to health food store today to

get supplement but the more I read the more confused I get.

+++Hi there. Welcome to our group. What is your name please?

We all understand what you are going through, and this program has been the most

successful for curing candida. It is also an overall healing program which

improves anyone's health, even if they don't have candida.

You will have some control over your die-off symptoms, if you take your time and

slowly change over to this diet. When you do, you need to stop taking Nystatin,

since I recommend a much better antifungal, which provides many other health

benefits too - that IS unrefined coconut oil. But you need to start with small

amounts like 1 teaspoon 3 times a day with meals (some people need to start on

less) and only gradually increase it so your die-off symptoms aren't severe.

It is important to read 2 articles first:

1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

It is good to write down you own plan for making the transition over to this

diet according to suggestions in the 2nd article above.

Take your time my friend. Every step you take gets you closer and closer to

becoming healthy, so take it one step at a time. As you progress you can get

lots of support from all of us, since we " have been there, done that! "

For encouragement and inspiration see the Success Stories:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

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>

> Hello Bee,

> My name is . I have never been on anything online. I am crying as I

write. I want to feel better and you have no idea what finding hope means to

me. Thank you for you support. This is very difficult for me. I am very

independent.

+++Hi . It's good to know your name, since I can't remember people by

their email. :)

There is so much hope for you my friend! I can understand crying since you've

finally found something that is going to make you feel better. I can get into

" cheerful tearful " episodes myself when I'm overjoyed by someone's gains on my

program, and I'm so happy you have hope now!

You certainly can't go wrong following Nature's Fundamental Laws on health and

living. This program is what our bodies are designed to have in order to be

healthy, and it works for everyone if they follow it carefully.

So it's back to Nature ! Of course it isn't easy since there will be many

ups and downs because of how our bodies heal themselves. Healing is actually

the reverse of the dis-ease process, but we know now we are not going to

deteriorate like we did when we went down the tubes. It's now onward and upward

towards health!!

You can do this . Just do one step at a time, and we are here to help you.

All the best, Bee

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> +++Hi . It's good to know your name, since I can't remember people by

their email. :)

>

> There is so much hope for you my friend! I can understand crying since you've

finally found something that is going to make you feel better. I can get into

" cheerful tearful " episodes myself when I'm overjoyed by someone's gains on my

program, and I'm so happy you have hope now!

Thank you Bee,

I have printed the needed articles, diet, supplements, etc. and am going to

start my shopping list/journal so I can go get what I need to start. Today is

my day off so I have some time. A good time to get started. Thank youagain for

the encouragement.

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> Have been sick for years. Fibromyalgia, IBS, Low B12, Low VD(better now),

fatigue, depression, anxiety, yeast in mouth, etc. take nystatin periodically

plus lota of meds. Lately worse. Working but struggling a lot. Just scared. I

am going to do it but afraid die off will cause me to be unable to work but do

have lots of support if that happens. Plan to go to health food store today to

get supplement but the more I read the more confused I get.

>

Hi and welcome

You are in the best hands. You can have us hold yours for awhile and then you

can do it. It is confusing and scary at first and as Bee says there will be up &

down and always moving higher towards excellent health. Maybe she is starting to

detox already Bee through her tears. Well maybe im stretching it and maybe not.

Trust that this will work and keep going.

Yes, confusion is a symptom of too many carbs and not enough fats and protein.

Read carefully about the supplements. Die off can be minimized by careful

management.

Neal

Neal

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Hi ,

This is from another, . You will get a lot of help, support, and

encouragement in this group. I started slowly, asked questions, and read a lot

from Bee's site. I see improvements. I read a lot on nutrition, over the years,

and it helped, and at other times set me back. I was already avoiding most

processed foods, and avoided most gluten, and sugar, so my die-offs were not

severe. It was new for me to give up fruit, and yogurt. Please work on being

less independent, and work on trusting Bee's site. Wishing you the best of

health.

C.

>

> Hello Bee,

> My name is . I have never been on anything online. I am crying as I

write. I want to feel better and you have no idea what finding hope means to

me. Thank you for you support. This is very difficult for me. I am very

independent.

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