Re: Candida kids

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

I just wanted to share that my son is also 5 and is just finishing his first

week on the diet (well, he's still in transition mode- he still has a few rice

crackers each day and about a half cup of plain yogurt, some raw carrot here and

there- but mostly on the diet!).

Anyway, I just wanted to say 'hi' and let you know that someone is in the same

boat.  I would love to hear about your successes and trials-

 

Oh, and I think the boys need at least 6 months to include the time from

conception

-Sara

[Guest guest]

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> Hi. My boy is 5 and that means 5 months of the candida diet. He is

> definitely craving the yeasty foods. I have seen improvement in his

> demeanor - his nerves seem to be calming down a bit and he is better

> able to focus. He does have fits of hunger and cravings still which

> makes sense as we are just at the beginning. My question is: Will 5

> months be all he needs or will he have a problem once again if I add

> honey or fruit to his diet? Thanks.

+++Hi Kathy. He may need more than 5 months to build up his immune

system, if it took awhile to get him on the complete diet and taking

all of the supplements. Also you need to add 3/4 of a year = 3/4 of a

month for the period from conception to birth.

+++When his immune system is strong again he will be okay having small

amounts of honey and fruit " if " he consistently gets " proper nutrients "

most of the time, say 6 days out of 7, and doesn't get a lot of

toxins. Proper nutrients and eliminating toxins are the keys to life-

long health.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara and others,

It would be great to share. Nice to meet you. I have given him carrots

but now they are done so I will not buy any more. Isn't this hard?

What do you hope to accomplish with your boy's diet? Matt sat in

church pretty calmly today which is a major improvement for him. He

used to embarass me with his constant fidgeting and moving around.

Keep this thread going so we and whoever else wants to share can!

Today my boy ate liver, half a chicken heart, eggs, scallions, grape

tomatoes (which may be too sweet for this diet?), and approved sausage

all cooked in coconut oil. You can see that he IS a bottomless pit and

guess what he said afterwards? " I'm hungry still. " I said, " Well, I'm

done cooking so you'll have to wait for lunch! "

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Well, Bee. Six months aint so bad. It will be worse for me, about two

years) but the kids will then get the benefits of my good nutrition.

Thank you very much.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Kathy-

My son is also a bottomless pit.  I usually make an egg drink in the afternoon

to curb our hunger, but he continues to eat and eat.  We've been eating lots of

eggs here- egg drink, hard boiled eggs, scrambled eggs in coconut oil, flan,

etc.  My egg farmer laughed when I bought 4 carton of eggs instead of 2.

My son has sensory processing disorder and I believe it will get a lot better

with this diet.  He is also very emotionally 'unstable'- very up and down (as is

my daughter who is 2.5).  Both my kiddos had thrush as infants that lingered

much longer than the doctors thought was 'normal'.

My daughter is showing more signs of die off than my son.  I hope it doesnt last

long.  I try to cut back on her coconut oil intake, cooking her foods separate,

but the diet alone seems to be having an effect.

So far this hasnt been too hard, except that I am always in the kitchen (which I

dont mind too much).  I made up lists of snack ideas so that when they are

hungry I am not racking my brain trying to figure out what they can eat (and my

husband can easily make them something).  Over the weekend I roasted 3 chickens

at once so that I could freeze individual portions- that way we can quickly heat

up some chicken in coconut oil, toss in some veggies and serve.  I also had lots

of bones to make some bone broth which I turned into some delicious cauliflower

soup.  I also stocked up on my condiments so that we'll be all set for the week.

Ok- enough rambeling - Now I have to figure out what to pack for my son's

lunch.  so far he is wanting hard boiled eggs and jicama (we still do some raw

veggies).  I think I will make a pudding for his 'treat'.

we can do this!

-Sara

[Guest guest]

My kid also became a bottomless pit on this diet. I think it is pretty normal.

Irene

At 11:13 AM 2/1/2009, you wrote:

>Hi Sara and others,

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>It would be great to share. Nice to meet you. I have given him carrots

>but now they are done so I will not buy any more. Isn't this hard?

>What do you hope to accomplish with your boy's diet? Matt sat in

>church pretty calmly today which is a major improvement for him. He

>used to embarass me with his constant fidgeting and moving around.

>Keep this thread going so we and whoever else wants to share can!

>Today my boy ate liver, half a chicken heart, eggs, scallions, grape

>tomatoes (which may be too sweet for this diet?), and approved sausage

>all cooked in coconut oil. You can see that he IS a bottomless pit and

>guess what he said afterwards? " I'm hungry still. " I said, " Well, I'm

>done cooking so you'll have to wait for lunch! "

>

>Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

i've just started my children on the diet in earnest, and they've

become bottomless pits as well! with jetlag this means it is happening

at bizarre hours. i've been on the program for 3 months, so they've

had a taste of it all. something i've found useful for them to

transition, and start to let go of fruit and dairy, is to make some

treats like coconut oil chocolate, which is lots of c.o., a little

scoop of cocoa (transitional only), stevia, and sea salt. that vanilla

powder would be great, and i did wonder if peppermint oil would be

alright in it if very pure. i put melted ingredients in a little ice

cube tray (hearts! this will be our cheat on valentines day, flavoured

with coffee for the grown-ups!) and chill in the fridge or the

freezer. they love them, it helps them eat more c.o., and stop feeling

deprived. i also have been transitioning them off of raw milk, by

giving them cream with cooled, boiled water and stevia. at the moment

they are at 1/2 a piece of fruit each day, but have been grain free

for a few days. their dinners are all on the diet, except for some

carrot, it is really just the snacks. i find that unlimited bacon

keeps everyone happy! the soup stocks are great for the endless

hunger, as someone mentioned, i'm giving them that in a cup to help it

go down. i also allow them unlimited sauerkraut, which they crave.

i've discovered that they like to chew vit e gels, cod liver oil and

halibut oil gels, especially if i touch them with stevia. i'm looking

for nutritional yeast here, for b's, and they like a glass with

natural calm magnesium, and i grind a calcium pill into it. they love

the electrolyte drink, eat sea-salted butter off the spoon, and they

are going to be in heaven when i find some gelatin to make pudding!

i also make them a 'crêpe' recipe that takes care of breakfast, which

i've posted on the recipe group. send me a private message if you'd

like it and aren't on that group. so, we're doing well! i was hungry

all the time for several weeks, so i can understand this hunger. my

friend who turned me onto the diet observed that her kids stopped

needing a thousand snacks to be carried round with them everywhere,

after a while. so great!

good luck to all the parents. mine are well-trained because we've had

so many food sensitivities, they are used to crazy food

elisa

On 2-Feb-09, at 2:58 AM, Sara wrote:

> Kathy-

> My son is also a bottomless pit. I usually make an egg drink in the

> afternoon to curb our hunger, but he continues to eat and eat.

> We've been eating lots of eggs here- egg drink, hard boiled eggs,

> scrambled eggs in coconut oil, flan, etc. My egg farmer laughed

> when I bought 4 carton of eggs instead of 2.

> My son has sensory processing disorder and I believe it will get a

> lot better with this diet. He is also very emotionally 'unstable'-

> very up and down (as is my daughter who is 2.5). Both my kiddos had

> thrush as infants that lingered much longer than the doctors thought

> was 'normal'.

> My daughter is showing more signs of die off than my son. I hope it

> doesnt last long. I try to cut back on her coconut oil intake,

> cooking her foods separate, but the diet alone seems to be having an

> effect.

> So far this hasnt been too hard, except that I am always in the

> kitchen (which I dont mind too much). I made up lists of snack

> ideas so that when they are hungry I am not racking my brain trying

> to figure out what they can eat (and my husband can easily make them

> something). Over the weekend I roasted 3 chickens at once so that I

> could freeze individual portions- that way we can quickly heat up

> some chicken in coconut oil, toss in some veggies and serve. I also

> had lots of bones to make some bone broth which I turned into some

> delicious cauliflower soup. I also stocked up on my condiments so

> that we'll be all set for the week.

> Ok- enough rambeling - Now I have to figure out what to pack for my

> son's lunch. so far he is wanting hard boiled eggs and jicama (we

> still do some raw veggies). I think I will make a pudding for his

> 'treat'.

> we can do this!

> -Sara

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing !  Thats funny, I've been making the 'chocolate' for my

children as well- it is a great way to get them more coconut oil (I know cocoa

is not on the diet and that this is transitional).  I hadnt thought to make cute

shapes (I usually dont even cool mine- they usually eat it off the spoon as I am

making it!). 

 

Today I tried the nut bar recipe and it was a huge hit (I think it was on the

recipe group?)- we all over-indulged on that one!

 

You're right- I was 'starving' all the time in the beginning too.  I'll just

keep offering the healthy food- I know it is healing their bodies.

 

Oh, and FYI: I made their pudding with agar flakes instead of gelatin- it was a

huge hit!

Please keep the ideas coming!

-Sara

[Guest guest]

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> Kathy-

> My son is also a bottomless pit.  I usually make an egg drink in

the afternoon to curb our hunger, but he continues to eat and eat. 

We've been eating lots of eggs here- egg drink, hard boiled eggs,

scrambled eggs in coconut oil, flan, etc.  My egg farmer laughed when

I bought 4 carton of eggs instead of 2.

> My son has sensory processing disorder and I believe it will get a

lot better with this diet.  He is also very emotionally 'unstable'-

very up and down (as is my daughter who is 2.5).  Both my kiddos had

thrush as infants that lingered much longer than the doctors thought

was 'normal'.

> My daughter is showing more signs of die off than my son.  I hope

it doesnt last long.  I try to cut back on her coconut oil intake,

cooking her foods separate, but the diet alone seems to be having an

effect.

> So far this hasnt been too hard, except that I am always in the

kitchen (which I dont mind too much).  I made up lists of snack ideas

so that when they are hungry I am not racking my brain trying to

figure out what they can eat (and my husband can easily make them

something).  Over the weekend I roasted 3 chickens at once so that I

could freeze individual portions- that way we can quickly heat up

some chicken in coconut oil, toss in some veggies and serve.  I also

had lots of bones to make some bone broth which I turned into some

delicious cauliflower soup.  I also stocked up on my condiments so

that we'll be all set for the week.

> Ok- enough rambeling - Now I have to figure out what to pack for my

son's lunch.  so far he is wanting hard boiled eggs and jicama (we

still do some raw veggies).  I think I will make a pudding for

his 'treat'.

> we can do this!

+++Hi Sara. I commend you, and admire how you are planning, cooking,

etc. in order for you and your children to be healthy! That's very

very well done Mom!

The best always, Bee

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the 'chocolate' for my children as well- it is a great way to get

them more coconut oil (I know cocoa is not on the diet and that this

is transitional).  I hadnt thought to make cute shapes (I usually

dont even cool mine- they usually eat it off the spoon as I am making

it!). 

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was on the recipe group?)- we all over-indulged on that one!

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I'll just keep offering the healthy food- I know it is healing their

bodies.

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> Oh, and FYI: I made their pudding with agar flakes instead of

gelatin- it was a huge hit!

+++Hi Sara. You might consider using tapioca instead of gelatin or

agar. It is usually used as a thickening agent in puddings.

Agar is derived from seaweed which isn't good to have since it

contains too much iodine. I'm very leary of anything processed from

seaweed since it usually turns into an MSG-like substance, which is

neurotoxic (toxins that damage the nerves and brain).

I think you'll like tapioca much better too.

Bee

[Guest guest]

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Candida kids

Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:28 AM

Thanks Bee, thanks for the information- I thought a little seaweed would be OK

here and there since it has so many beneficial nutrients as well.  I have

tapioca and will use it in the future-

thanks you!

-Sara

+++Hi Sara. You might consider using tapioca instead of gelatin or

agar. It is usually used as a thickening agent in puddings.

Agar is derived from seaweed which isn't good to have since it

contains too much iodine. I'm very leary of anything processed from

seaweed since it usually turns into an MSG-like substance, which is

neurotoxic (toxins that damage the nerves and brain).

I think you'll like tapioca much better too.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>Sara,

I can't figure out how to get to the recipe group. I think I posted the nut

bar recipe but

now I can't get back to the group.

Doris

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Doris,

If you go to home page you'll see a rectangle labled 'groups'.  I have an

icon on my toolbar.  Then you get a list of all your groups, just click on the

one you want to explore and then you can search past messages, files, etc.

HTH,

Sara

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

My boy used to be a bottomless pit also, but since this diet, he is not like

that any more. I think he now absorbs nutrients better. I have to remind him

that he hasn't eaten! Just a couple of years ago, he ate every 20-30 minutes

and would show severe symptoms of hypoglycemia when he didn't eat for that

long. Interestingly, his blood sugar was not really that low. He eats so

normally now and loves all the good foods. It's a totally miracle.

Millie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What recipe group? Do you have a link? I would love to be on it!!! You sound

like you are doing fantastic with all your foods ready to go. Great job.

Millie

[Guest guest]

>Hi Sara,

I'm kind of slow on this computer stuff. I joined several groups that I never

even check

and the recipe site was listed if I hit next page. I didn't realize I had one.

Doris

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my toolbar.  Then you get a list of all your groups, just click on the one you

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explore and then you can search past messages, files, etc.

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[Guest guest]

shucks, thanks millie. it took me a few months to get something in

order, now i feel like i can help my children too.

the recipe group is here

Recipes_For_Candida_Healing/

for those who are looking for more inspiration, or can contribute

more ideas!

*elisa

On 2-Feb-09, at 10:15 PM, Millie Krejci wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Millie,

I'm thinking this hunger will settle once he absorbs nutrients better

too. Thanks for sharing what happened with your child as inspiration.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to share how my 5-year old did today.

Last summer 2008, my boy, then 4, was kicked out of a summer camp

program. Granted, he was the youngest in the class so developmentally

he wasn't where the 5 year old boys were, but he was very hyperactive,

running down the halls, not responding to the counselor's pleas to

stop and pay attention. He would pick up candy or other foods off the

dirty floors and impulsively put them in his mouth sabotaging my

efforts to take out refined sugars and artificial ingredients. He

wasn't gripping writing utensls properly yet. Anyway, he was " too

much " for them to handle. The counselor told me to keep an eye on him

because if he kept it up he would be diagnosed with ADHD and

consequently have learning difficulties.

I knew, like a mother knows, that he had a problem and I better act

NOW. I asked everyone I knew for where to turn and a neighbor (with

special needs kids herself) and my sister-in-laws who worked with

special needs kids told me to get a neuropsych evaluation for him.

Well, today was the day. It was at a Children's Hospital. I was with

him in the corner of the room the whole time so as not to distract him.

I told the Psychologist that he was doing much, much better now that I

had been working with him nutritionally. Secretly, I wasn't even sure

he needed this evaluation anymore but I figured we would cover all

bases. He asked how I was working with him nutritionaly. I told him

that I took out sugar, white flour, wheat, dairy, artificial

ingredients, especially MSG, and made sure he ate plenty of meats,

vegetables, fats, and eggs. I told him I noticed that his nerves were

settling down. He was less fidgety now and he was better able to

focus. His head was more clear, not full of toxins.

Besides still being fidgety, especially later in this 3.5 hour

evaluation, he did very well. In fact, he soared through some of the

parts way above average.

Now. I'll have to wait for the " official " results in 4 weeks but I was

very pleased. Like I said before, " A mother knows. " I know he did very

well. I know it's because of his diet. I know we will keep following

this diet until I know his excess yeast issue is resolved and his

immune system is strong like he deserves. I am very happy no matter

what they found!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Wow, Kathy, that's a very inspiring story about your son.

Half of that could have been my description of my own son who is a

year younger. He was this wild child. Running away, never listening

to anyone, could not focus, ate candy off the ground (gross!), and

when I would talk to people how I thought something was wrong. He's

got autism or ADD or something. They all said no, that's normal -

he's 3 and that's what 3 year olds do. I could scream now whenever I

hear that! But you're right, a mother just knows.

So I did some research and changed his diet and after 5 months on

Bee's program he's a different boy. It's truly amazing. I notice

that he still needs to do some healing, but he's doing so well.

Yay us for listening to our instincts and being such good moms!

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> Last summer 2008, my boy, then 4, was kicked out of a summer camp

> program. Granted, he was the youngest in the class so

developmentally he wasn't where the 5 year old boys were, but he was

very hyperactive, running down the halls, not responding to the

counselor's pleas to stop and pay attention. He would pick up candy

or other foods off the dirty floors and impulsively put them in his

mouth sabotaging my efforts to take out refined sugars and

artificial ingredients. He wasn't gripping writing utensls properly

yet. Anyway, he was " too much " for them to handle. The counselor told

me to keep an eye on him because if he kept it up he would be

diagnosed with ADHD and consequently have learning difficulties.

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[Guest guest]

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Thanks for sharing back. Yeah. I knew something wrong was going on in

his brain. I have a daughter without these problems so I had her to

compare with. Also, when comparing him to others his age, he stood

out. He also had a BIG biting problem from age 2-3. He still pulls out

that weapon occassionaly with his sister.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

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> I told the Psychologist that he was doing much, much better now

that I

> had been working with him nutritionally. Secretly, I wasn't even

sure

> he needed this evaluation anymore but I figured we would cover all

> bases. He asked how I was working with him nutritionaly. I told

him

> that I took out sugar, white flour, wheat, dairy, artificial

> ingredients, especially MSG, and made sure he ate plenty of meats,

> vegetables, fats, and eggs. I told him I noticed that his nerves

were

> settling down. He was less fidgety now and he was better able to

> focus. His head was more clear, not full of toxins.

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+++Hi Kathy. That's wonderful how much your son has improved on

proper nutrition! Keep up the good work Mom!

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

RE: Tapioca

Would a tapioca pudding from skim milk and stevia as a sweetner be an

ok treat? I don't seem to have any effect from skim milk.

[Guest guest]

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> Would a tapioca pudding from skim milk and stevia as a sweetner be an

> ok treat? I don't seem to have any effect from skim milk.

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Hi:

Please let us know your name.

Sorry, no skim milk and tapioca are both not allowed. Tapioca is a starch which

converts

to sugar in the body and feeds the yeast. The skim milk is high in milk-sugar

which feeds

the yeast. You might not be " reacting " to foods because you are still having

too many

starches and sugars in your diet to cause any die-off.

May I suggest that you re-read " How to Cure Candida " and " Candida Basics " so you

get a

firm grasp on how this program works? It can take several readings to get

everything, and

some stuff has to sink in slowly.

Here are the links. Let us know if you have any questions you don't find

answered by

searching on Bee's site.

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/candidabasics.php

All the best! And Welcome!

Marissa

[Guest guest]

Thanks- my name is

-- On Tue, 2/10/09, bonemilk27 <bonemilk@...> wrote:

From: bonemilk27 <bonemilk@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Candida kids

Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 11:21 AM

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> Would a tapioca pudding from skim milk and stevia as a sweetner be an

> ok treat? I don't seem to have any effect from skim milk.

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Hi:

Please let us know your name.

Sorry, no skim milk and tapioca are both not allowed. Tapioca is a starch which

converts

to sugar in the body and feeds the yeast. The skim milk is high in milk-sugar

which feeds

the yeast. You might not be " reacting " to foods because you are still having

too many

starches and sugars in your diet to cause any die-off.

May I suggest that you re-read " How to Cure Candida " and " Candida Basics " so you

get a

firm grasp on how this program works? It can take several readings to get

everything, and

some stuff has to sink in slowly.

Here are the links. Let us know if you have any questions you don't find

answered by

searching on Bee's site.

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ intro1.php

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ candidabasics. php

All the best! And Welcome!

Marissa