Re: I need reassurance!

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

>

> I've been on Bee's Candida diet for about three months,

> so not long at all. During that time I've weaned myself off 2 of

my 4

> antidepressant medications and am working on the third now.

>

> I'm

> following the diet really closely but probably am still getting too

> much sugar from things like seasonings on store-bought roast chicken

> and such. Still, I'm not getting a lot. I take 6 Tbs of CO a day

and

> the supplements as directed. I'm also taking clove oil and

probiotics

> (BioKult). My diet consists of meat (mostly chicken), veggies

> (broccoli and asparagus mainly), and lots of fat from CO and butter.

+++Wow . 3 months is a very short time for you to be taking

probiotics already.

>

> My

> problem is that I'm starting to feel depressed. I understand the

law

> of cure and that I will revisit each of my episodes during my

recovery

> but to a lesser degree. However, the way I'm feeling right now is

not

> a lesser degree. I'm depressed, plain and simple. I get

overwhelmed

> easily, I'm irritable, I'm having difficulty at work concentrating

and

> getting things done, and I get emotional really easily. I wake up

> during the night to waves of dread, hopelessness, and

helplessness. To

> me this does not feel like revisiting, it feels like I'm getting

> depressed because I'm going off my medication. And I'm scared. I

went

> through a similar time last year around Christmas of 2008 when I was

> severely depressed and almost took my own life.

+++Because you've been depressed in the past your body will " retrace "

each and every episode during natural healing, which is according to

Hering's Law of Cure - in my articles and on my website.

So please try to " ride " through this since it is temporary, but

necessary, in order for your body to heal properly.

Also ensure you are following the diet carefully and taking " all " of

the supplements. Please ensure you are taking the correct amounts of

all supplements, but particularly omega-3, vitamins A, D & E since

they are so very important for depression - your can re-check your

cod liver oil (or fish oil and vitamin A if you get enough sun

exposure for getting vitamin D) against this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cod2.php

Please read this article on Anxiety & Depression:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat6.php

I also suggest you do deep breathing exercises as often as you can,

even at work, to help alleviate stress:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/breath1.php

I hope that helps.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Oops! I got my dates wrong, sorry. It was December *2007* that I was

doing so poorly, not 2008. I'd started going off my antidepressants in

August 2007 to try homeopathy and, when that failed miserably, I

started going downhill rather quickly. So, in January 2008, I went

back on my antidepressants and started doing much better.

Thanks all,

----

and the JRTs & BC

Nunn, CO

http://faroutagility.com

________________________________

From: Far Out Agility <faroutagility@...>

CandidaSupport < >

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:04:25 AM

Subject: I need reassurance!

My

problem is that I'm starting to feel depressed. I understand the law

of cure and that I will revisit each of my episodes during my recovery

but to a lesser degree. However, the way I'm feeling right now is not

a lesser degree. I'm depressed, plain and simple. I get overwhelmed

easily, I'm irritable, I'm having difficulty at work concentrating and

getting things done, and I get emotional really easily. I wake up

during the night to waves of dread, hopelessness, and helplessness. To

me this does not feel like revisiting, it feels like I'm getting

depressed because I'm going off my medication. And I'm scared. I went

through a similar time last year around Christmas of 2008 when I was

severely depressed and almost took my own life.

[Guest guest]

> > I've been on Bee's Candida diet for about three months,

> > so not long at all. During that time I've weaned myself off 2 of

> my 4

> > antidepressant medications and am working on the third now.

*** That's really great progress. You do have to wean off them, but it is also

true that the

remaining two drugs are continuing to supply toxins to your body and they are

most likely

interfering with your mineral balances in some way. So your progress is slowed

by

continued use of them. I just point this out because you are having a hard time

at the

moment and this is being extended and deepened by the meds.

> >

> > I'm

> > following the diet really closely but probably am still getting too

> > much sugar from things like seasonings on store-bought roast chicken

> > and such. Still, I'm not getting a lot. I take 6 Tbs of CO a day

> and

> > the supplements as directed.

**** When you read the article Bee sent you, you'll see why it's so important to

recheck

your supplementation. Double-check that you are getting the right amount of Cod

Liver

oil and Vitamin A. But your minerals are very, very important too. And I want

to tell you

about my own experience with the Calcium-magnesium balance.

First of all, it's highly personal. Some need more calcium some more magnesium

in order

to get the balance right. I started out taking 300 mg of each, then I realized

that my

supps did not have elemental amounts listed and that, as Bee recommends, I

should try

taking 40% more to ensure the elemental levels. I then started to get cramps on

my left

leg at night and realized that I needed more magnesium. So I now take more

magnesium

than calcium and my cramps are gone.

I tell you this because there is a lot of evidence that points to mineral

imbalances being a

big part of the rise in depression. Well: our diets are low in good fats, our

soil is depleted,

medical doctors yank the imbalances further out of whack by prescribing

fractionalized

solutions that don't treat the whole body and the root causes... it's no wonder

people

don't get well.

So I encourage you to recheck your supplements, get off the other meds as soon

as you

are able, drink the electrolyte drink every day, and eat good fat.

I'm also taking clove oil and probiotics (BioKult).

*** May be to soon for probiotics. So clove oil is your third anti-fungal,

after the coconut

oil and the pau d'ardco tea? How much are you taking everyday? How do you take

it?

My diet consists of meat (mostly chicken), veggies

> > (broccoli and asparagus mainly), and lots of fat from CO and butter.

***You mention that your main meat source is chicken. You need red meat and

fish in

your diet as well. Red meat provides nutrition not found in poultry.

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/meat2.php

Also bone broths will be very important to you: they have lots of minerals and

good fat if

you don't skim it all away. Can you make a big pot of beef soup at the

beginning of the

week using bone broth as the base? Eat/drink some everyday.

*** Finally, since you are clearing those first two drugs out of your system,

you can help

your liver along by taking the coffee enemas once a week. I encourage you to do

this as

your liver could use some help clearing out the drug toxins.

Here's the link:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/enema1.php

Keep us posted on how you are doing, please.

All the best,

Marissa

[Guest guest]

>

> Oops! I got my dates wrong, sorry. It was December *2007* that I was

> doing so poorly, not 2008. I'd started going off my antidepressants

in

> August 2007 to try homeopathy and, when that failed miserably, I

> started going downhill rather quickly. So, in January 2008, I went

> back on my antidepressants and started doing much better.

>

> Thanks all,

>

+++Hi . What email address are you using as a member of this

group? I cannot find either one on our membership list.

Also please delete your website after your name. Thank you.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> I'm

> taking *all* of the supplements as directed and am taking the correct

> amounts of all of them. I ordered the same ones you take from Amazon,

> Natural Factors. My CLO is a good one with plenty of A & D, though

> I'm supplementing these as well. On top of the CLO, I take FBO to be

> sure I'm getting enough Omega3s.

***** What is FBO? Are you saying that you are taking more Omega-3 than Bee

recommends,

or less CLO and more of this " FBO " . Could you clarify this a little?

Thanks,

Marissa

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks so much for the quick reply, Bee! It means a lot.

>

> I'm taking *all* of the supplements as directed and am taking the

correct amounts of all of them. I ordered the same ones you take

from Amazon, Natural Factors. My CLO is a good one with plenty of A

& D, though I'm supplementing these as well. On top of the CLO, I

take FBO to be sure I'm getting enough Omega3s.

++Hi . That's good you are taking the right amounts. What

is FBO ? I wouldn't take the extra omega-3, since you only want to

give your body what it needs so it can rebalance itself okay. More

is not better.

>

> I'll start following the diet more closely, though I don't think

I'm too far off. Is variety important or can I continue to consume

my favorites, roast chicken and broccoli/asparagus?

+++Variety is up to you.

>

> I do understand the whole " retracing " to cure and it makes sense.

I was just thinking it would be milder than it is. Of course, I

haven't had any suicidal thoughts so perhaps it IS milder even though

it still feels really scary. My biggest fear is that I will

eventually end up in that dark, dark chasm I was in back in December

2007. It was a horrible place and I NEVER wish to be there again.

+++I don't honestly believe that you will be there again IF you

continue following this program faithfully. When those fears come

please do deep breathing exercises and take a walk, if you can, so

you can get more exterior mentally. Even keeping busy doing things

helps a lot, like washing the tub or windows, etc. lol!

>

> Do you think I need to stop taking the BioKult for a bit? I will

admit that I was trying to rush things thinking that if I can handle

all of the antifungals and the probiotics that I would get better

that much faster. :-}

+++You cannot push your body to get well faster by doing anything

like that. You just overwhelm and confuse your body, which makes it

slow or even stop the healing process. More is not better my dear.

Concentrate on giving your body what it needs and it will do its job

wonderfully, but don't push it.

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> ***** What is FBO? Are you saying that you are taking more Omega-3

than Bee recommends,

> or less CLO and more of this " FBO " . Could you clarify this a

little?

>

> Marissa,

>

> FBO is fish body oil, another source of Omega3s. I'm probably

taking a total of about 2400 mg Omega3s between the fish oil and the

CLO.

+++Hi . I've never heard of fish body oil, and it makes me

suspicious of it - can you provide the link to the detailed

ingredients, amounts, etc.?

If you are taking the right kind of Omega-3 in addition to CLO, that

amount is quite okay.

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> >> +++Hi . I've never heard of fish body oil, and it makes

me

> >> suspicious of it - can you provide the link to the detailed

> >> ingredients, amounts, etc.?

>

> It's actually just fish oil, I guess. It's Rexall brand. I couldn't

find a link to the product, even at http://rexall.com. Two capsules

has 2400 mg FO with a total of 720 mg Omega-3 FAs. The container

doesn't give amounts of EPA or DHA. Other ingredients are gelatin,

glycerin, and mixed tocopherols. I bought this brand for my dogs

because it doesn't contain soy.

+++Hi . I wouldn't trust that fish oil at all, not even for

your dogs. There's a lot of good fish oils that do not contain soy,

including Salmon and Cod (without vitamins A & D). The product should

list the amounts of EPA and DHA separately too.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Marissa,

>

> Thank you for all of the great information in this email!

>

> >> When you read the article Bee sent you, you'll see why it's so

important to recheck

> >> your supplementation. Double-check that you are getting the

right amount of Cod Liver

> >> oil and Vitamin A. But your minerals are very, very important

too. And I want to tell you

> >> about my own experience with the Calcium-magnesium balance.

>

> I'm fairly certain that my supplements are where they should be.

I'm taking the same supplements Bee is and in the same amounts. I'm

taking 600 mg of both the Natural Factors Mg-citrate and Ca-citrate.

How can I be more certain I'm getting what I need? The supplements

seem to be the source of a lot of confusion from me and others.

+++Hi . You are taking the correct amount of Cal/Mag if you

are taking 300 mg of each twice a day = total 600 mg per day.

+++I've written more clarification about supplements in the articles

and supplement references recently.

>

> I made my first batch of bone broth yesterday! Along with this and

the sea salt, how else can I be sure I get the minerals I need?

+++You're okay; you only need good water besides the diet. This is

from my main candida article:

" There are only seven (7) macrominerals required by the body in

amounts of 200 mg or more per day – all of the rest of the minerals

are only required in " trace " amounts:

-calcium (supplement required)

-magnesium (supplement required)

-chloride - contained in ocean sea salt

-sodium - contained in ocean sea salt

Note: chloride plus sodium IS salt.

-phosphorus - found in all animal meats and eggs

-potassium - found in many foods, i.e. eggs, meats and vegetables

(especially green one)

-sulphur - found in eggs, meats, lemons, garlic and many other foods

>

> >> *** May be to soon for probiotics. So clove oil is your third

anti-fungal, after the coconut oil and the pau d'ardco tea? How much

are you taking everyday? How do you take it?

+++You only take coconut oil and " one " other kind of antifungal. You

can drink Pau D'arco tea too since it is a very mild antifungal.

>

> I've stopped the BioKult for now. I'm taking CO and have added

oregano oil to my morning routine. I'm not drinking any pau d'arco

tea right now but I do have some. I've backed off the clove oil for

now since adding in the oregano. I read in another forum that anti-

fungals should be used for 3 months and then stopped for 3 because

they will lose their effectiveness. Is there truth to this?

+++You should also stop taking clove oil, as well as oil of oregano.

I do not believe they lose effectiveness. Does food lose

effectiveness?

>Re: coffee enemas: I'll start doing this. I've gotten the

recommendation from others as well. I've slowed down on weaning

myself off my last two meds until I'm feeling a little more stable.

I understand it's important to get the remaining toxins out of my

body but I also think it's important to go slowly enough as to be

successful on the diet and off the meds. I think slowing down my

healing progress is better than going back on all the meds should

things go terribly wrong.

+++Yes, I agree with you .

Bee