goitrogens

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Hi Bonner,

I'm sure you will. There was a recent Canadian report of 3 normal people who

became hypothyroid after eating a steady diet of cabbage soup. Once they

figured this out, and cut out the soup, their thyroid function returned to

normal.

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Hi Bee, Hope all is well. I did the high fat protein diet for a day or

so but I did add some romaine and am doing alright with it. Today I

had some fermented clo and my face and belly got very puffy and was

dizzy throughout the day. I just read that you don't recommend it.

Dave from green pastures says that the high vitamin clo we have been

taking are all proceesssed. The exception is the raw fermented.

I read an article today about goitrogenic foods and it listed a whole

lot of vegetables that I did not suspect were goitrogenic. It said

that leafy greens contained them as do garlic and onions. Could this

be why I was feeling worn out while eating onions and garlic? I

understand that fermenting and cooking these foods lowers the

goitrogens but doesn't eliminate them completely so they might still

affect a person having thyroid issues.

Thanks Bee for helping clear these things up for me

I really value your support and knowledge

Lots of luv

kelly

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> Hi Bee, Hope all is well. I did the high fat protein diet for a day

or

> so but I did add some romaine and am doing alright with it. Today I

> had some fermented clo and my face and belly got very puffy and

was

> dizzy throughout the day. I just read that you don't recommend it.

> Dave from green pastures says that the high vitamin clo we have

been

> taking are all proceesssed. The exception is the raw fermented.

+++Hi . All cod liver oil has to be processed, in order to get

the oils and vitamins out of the fish livers. You could say butter

is processed too. However, these cod liver oils have helped people

on this group achieve miraculous results, along with the diet and

other supplements, so I wouldn't be concerned about Dave's remarks

about it. Even Dr. Price used " so called " processed cod liver oil

back in the 1930s with great success. I was given cod liver oil as a

child and I didn't have any tooth cavities until I was 14 years old.

And so on and so on.

>

> I read an article today about goitrogenic foods and it listed a

whole lot of vegetables that I did not suspect were goitrogenic. It

said that leafy greens contained them as do garlic and onions. Could

this be why I was feeling worn out while eating onions and garlic? I

understand that fermenting and cooking these foods lowers the

goitrogens but doesn't eliminate them completely so they might still

affect a person having thyroid issues.

+++I don't believe in isolating out specific substances in nature's

foods and claiming they cause health problems. Anyone can do that

with hundreds of substances found in many foods, and make such

claims. Your thyroid issues aren't caused by eating nature's foods;

they are caused by candida toxins - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cabout1.php

The best in health, Bee

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If you are taking in enough iodine you do not have to worry. Dr. Brownstein says you would need to eat a lot of gotrogenic foods to have an issue.

Steph

Goitrogens

I keep forgetting to ask this question on the other thyroid forum but to all of you that are gluten free or grain free you worry about goitrogenic veggies interfering with your iodine uptake? If so what do you eat? I am currently eating grain free and no starchy veggies, so I am eating all above ground veggies. I'm just wondering how others are addressing this. ThanksKarin

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I could be all wrong, but I think that the goitrogens that you really, really have to worry is soy, bromide, fluoride, chloride, mercury and such. I think that the key with veggies is not to eat too much of one thing: variety is the key. Vegetables is not that good for you, there are some research that shows that it could damage DNA.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344The overall effect of the 10-week period without dietary fruits and vegetables was a decrease in oxidative damage to DNA, blood proteins, and plasma lipids, concomitantly with marked changes in antioxidative defence.

2009/8/25 krmaya <krmaya@...>

 

I keep forgetting to ask this question on the other thyroid forum but to all of you that are gluten free or grain free you worry about goitrogenic veggies interfering with your iodine uptake? If so what do you eat? I am currently eating grain free and no starchy veggies, so I am eating all above ground veggies. I'm just wondering how others are addressing this. Thanks

Karin

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my mother always said, moderation in everything you eat. nothing overdone is good for you, not exercise, not seafood, not veggies, meat, etc. but if you moderate it, you can eat almost anything. diane, near philly, pa On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Renato Iwakura wrote:I could be all wrong, but I think that the goitrogens that you really, really have to worry is soy, bromide, fluoride, chloride, mercury and such. I think that the key with veggies is not to eat too much of one thing: variety is the key. Vegetables is not that good for you, there are some research that shows that it could damage DNA.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344The overall effect of the 10-week period without dietary fruits and vegetables was a decrease in oxidative damage to DNA, blood proteins, and plasma lipids, concomitantly with marked changes in antioxidative defence.

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Those major goiterogens are ubiquitous in our society, so it seems that the detox symptoms will be ongoing. It seems to me that we need to maintain a high dose of iodine just to balance and rid the haligens and such so that we can remain healthy.

Sheesh!

Jag

From: Renato Iwakura <mario.iwakura@...>Subject: Re: Goitrogensiodine Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 7:21 AM

I could be all wrong, but I think that the goitrogens that you really, really have to worry is soy, bromide, fluoride, chloride, mercury and such. I think that the key with veggies is not to eat too much of one thing: variety is the key. Vegetables is not that good for you, there are some research that shows that it could damage DNA.

http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pubmed/12064344

The overall effect of the 10-week period without dietary fruits and vegetables was a decrease in oxidative damage to DNA, blood proteins, and plasma lipids, concomitantly with marked changes in antioxidative defence.

2009/8/25 krmaya <krmaya (DOT) com>

I keep forgetting to ask this question on the other thyroid forum but to all of you that are gluten free or grain free you worry about goitrogenic veggies interfering with your iodine uptake? If so what do you eat? I am currently eating grain free and no starchy veggies, so I am eating all above ground veggies. I'm just wondering how others are addressing this. ThanksKarin

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Those links were for studies about green tea extract not vegetables, that would really be ridiculous, especially referring to organic ones.Raquel>> I could be all wrong, but I think that the goitrogens that you really,> really have to worry is soy, bromide, fluoride, chloride, mercury and such.> I think that the key with veggies is not to eat too much of one thing:> variety is the key. Vegetables is not that good for you, there are some> research that shows that it could damage DNA.> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344>The overall effect of the> 10-week period without dietary fruits and vegetables was a decrease in> oxidative damage to DNA, blood proteins, and plasma lipids, concomitantly> with marked changes in antioxidative defence.> > > > 2009/8/25 krmaya krmaya@...> > >> >> > I keep forgetting to ask this question on the other thyroid forum but to> > all of you that are gluten free or grain free you worry about goitrogenic> > veggies interfering with your iodine uptake? If so what do you eat? I am> > currently eating grain free and no starchy veggies, so I am eating all above> > ground veggies. I'm just wondering how others are addressing this. Thanks> > Karin> >> > > >>